[wls_color]

Current Standings:

1. Coldwater (6-0) 12.8333
2. Covington (6-0) 9.6667
3. Country Day (6-0) 9.5500
4. Dayton Christian (6-0) 9.1515
5. West Liberty-Salem (6-0) 7.2652
6. Anna (3-3) 6.4167
7. Versailles (4-2) 5.9000
8t. Madison Plains (4-2) 5.8333
8t. West Jefferson (5-1) 5.8333
10. Clark Montessori (5-1) 5.6293
11. National Trail (5-1) 5.5167
12. Pleasant (5-1) 5.5000
13. Triad (5-1) 5.3741
14. Huntington (4-2) 5.3500
15. Dixie (4-2) 5.3167

Region 20 is even tougher this year than in year's past. It appears that four, maybe even FIVE teams will go 10-0.

Drew Pasteur Playoff Projections:
#1 Coldwater (10-0)
#2 Covington (10-0)
#3 West Liberty-Salem (10-0)
#4 Dayton Christian (10-0)
#5 Pleasant (9-1)
#6 Country Day (9-1)
#7 Madison Plains (8-2)
#8 West Jefferson (8-2)

Missing the Playoffs:
Triad 8-2
Versailles 7-3
Anna 6-4
Dixie 7-3
Miami East 7-3

I think when it's all said and done (and Coldwater has the Regional Trophy), this may be one of the most well balanced years in Region 20 history....with the exception of Coldwater being the best team in Division 5.

[wls_color]

Base on Drew's Projections, I'll do a prediction:

Round 1
#1 Coldwater over #8 West Jefferson 42-14
#2 Covington over #7 Madison Plains 49-7
#3 West Liberty-Salem over #6 Country Day 49-14
#5 Pleasant over #4 Dayton Christian 35-21

Round 2
#1 Coldwater over #5 Pleasant 48-10
#3 West Liberty-Salem over #2 Covington 35-34

Round 3
#1 Coldwater over #3 West Liberty-Salem 45-17

[bigbuccfan]

Originally Posted by wls_color

#3 West Liberty-Salem over #2 Covington 35-34

You can quote me on this....

Only two teams in the region could possibly score 35 points on Covington this season.

Coldwater and perhaps.....Versailles.

Keep in mind that Covington's defense through week 6 has only allowed 20 points total. For an average of 3.3 points a game.

This is a "homer" prediction on your part.....

I'd say the score would be:

Covington over WLS 35-14

Then:

Coldwater over Covington 28-14

Region 20 does appear to be top heavy again this year and Coldwater is favored to win the state championship. So knocking them off would go a long way to being favored the rest of the way.

Drew's odds on which region wins the D5 state title:

Division V
Region 17 - 25%
Region 18 - 15%
Region 19 - 3%
Region 20 - 58%

[bigbuccfan]

Base on Drew's Projections, Calpreps projections:

Round 1
#1 Coldwater over #8 West Jefferson 48-0
#2 Covington over #7 Madison Plains 41-14
#3 West Liberty-Salem over #6 Country Day 31-19
#5 Pleasant over #4 Dayton Christian 35-31

Round 2
#1 Coldwater over #5 Pleasant 46-6
#2 Covington over #3 West Liberty-Salem 35-27

Round 3
#1 Coldwater over #2 Covington 38-7

And if you look at Drew's odds of winning the region they look like this:

Coldwater 90%
Covington 3%
Versailles 2%
West Liberty-Salem (West Liberty) 2%
Pleasant (Marion) 1%

[wls_color]

Originally Posted by bigbuccfan

You can quote me on this....

Only two teams in the region could possibly score 35 points on Covington this season.

Coldwater and perhaps.....Versailles.

Keep in mind that Covington's defense through week 6 has only allowed 20 points total. For an average of 3.3 points a game.

This is a "homer" prediction on your part.....

I'd say the score would be:

Covington over WLS 35-14

Then:

Coldwater over Covington 28-14

Likewise, that's a homer prediction on your part. I have a child in 1st grade at the school, other than that no real affiliation. I'm typically just as hard on them as a rival school's fan. WLS' offense this season is the best in the OHC's history...you can ask anyone affiliated with any school in the conference. Their starters have only played 3 quarters in EVERY game this season...and in one game (48-0 over Riverside), they called the game with 2 minutes to go in the 1st half.

I think my prediction is extremely accurate. I think the game could go either way...but I see a 1 possession game any way you look at it. Predicting 35-14 is ludicrous. I hope we match-up...I really do. Not so I can say I'm right, so you can learn you're wrong.

I've seen you defend Covington for years crying "we can beat the MAC this year." I've seen you eat crow for years. What makes you think you can turn the tables on a school that is on about as level of a playing field as possible? And then call me a homer for predicting a great game? That doesn't make any sense.

[bigbuccfan]

Originally Posted by wls_color

Likewise, that's a homer prediction on your part. I have a child in 1st grade at the school, other than that no real affiliation. I'm typically just as hard on them as a rival school's fan. WLS' offense this season is the best in the OHC's history...you can ask anyone affiliated with any school in the conference. Their starters have only played 3 quarters in EVERY game this season...and in one game (48-0 over Riverside), they called the game with 2 minutes to go in the 1st half.

I think my prediction is extremely accurate. I think the game could go either way...but I see a 1 possession game any way you look at it. Predicting 35-14 is ludicrous. I hope we match-up...I really do. Not so I can say I'm right, so you can learn you're wrong.

I've seen you defend Covington for years crying "we can beat the MAC this year." I've seen you eat crow for years. What makes you think you can turn the tables on a school that is on about as level of a playing field as possible? And then call me a homer for predicting a great game? That doesn't make any sense.

You are a homer.

See my post right above your reply....and you'll see I'm simply betting with the odds that others have netted out.....

"I have a child in 1st grade at the school, other than that no real affiliation."

That's a lie...pure and simple. You've been posting for years that you favor WLS and your name tag shows it.

I've been a homer in years past....this season I've turned over a new leaf in that regards for many reasons...one of which is this Covington team will prove themselves on the field. Though I have no delusions of them beating Coldwater without a miracle of some sort.

Not sure why you're so defensive on being called a homer....I did not mean it in a negative manner...as I don't see a thing wrong with rooting for and predicting your team as being the winner.

[excel]

Summit won a game they were not expected to win last Thursday and have a strong chance of going 10-0. Looking at Pasteur's numbers last week, I think a 10-0 record could vault them into a top four seed in the region.

[bigbuccfan]

Originally Posted by excel

Summit won a game they were not expected to win last Thursday and have a strong chance of going 10-0. Looking at Pasteur's numbers last week, I think a 10-0 record could vault them into a top four seed in the region.

Quite possible and congrats to them on the great win!!

I don't however believe they can beat any of the following others in the region:

Coldwater
Versailles
Covington
West Liberty Salem
West Jefferson
Marion Pleasant

Any of those teams would be a tall order for them.

Per Calpreps vs Summit Country Day

Coldwater 52-0
Versailles 31-7
Covington 31-7
West Liberty Salem 31-19
West Jefferson 22-20
Marion Pleasant 31-17

[excel]

Originally Posted by bigbuccfan

Quite possible and congrats to them on the great win!!

I don't however believe they can beat any of the following others in the region:

Versailles
Covington
West Liberty Salem
West Jefferson
Marion Pleasant

Any of those teams would be a tall order for them.

No disagreement there.

[wls_color]

Originally Posted by bigbuccfan

You are a homer.

See my post right above your reply....and you'll see I'm simply betting with the odds that others have netted out.....

"I have a child in 1st grade at the school, other than that no real affiliation."

That's a lie...pure and simple. You've been posting for years that you favor WLS and your name tag shows it.

I've been a homer in years past....this season I've turned over a new leaf in that regards for many reasons...one of which is this Covington team will prove themselves on the field. Though I have no delusions of them beating Coldwater without a miracle of some sort.

Not sure why you're so defensive on being called a homer....I did not mean it in a negative manner...as I don't see a thing wrong with rooting for and predicting your team as being the winner.

Yes, I cheer for them. I graduated from there. I broadcast games, I see them a handful of times per year, when they're on the radio. So how is it a lie? What's my affiliation?

I'm honest about it, about who I think they can beat and who I think they cannot. You obviously are not the same and never have been. You haven't turned a new leaf...you said that Covington would blow-out WLS....you didn't simply bet the odds. I was closer to the odds with a 35-34 projection.

WLS would lose to 7 of the schools in the MAC this year. Are you realistic enough to admit the same about Covington? You're not...so if it's an argument of who is a homer and who is realistic...it's really not an argument at all. Good luck to Covington from here on out and good luck on turning over that new leaf.

[o.a.b.]

You can both agree on this : 10-0 doesn't mean squat.Playing your starters for only 3 quarters in every game doesn't mean squat.The level of competition that you play DOES mean squat.The MAC went to a rotational schedule in an effort to allow all schools in the league to shop for competition.While they're shopping their wares,I haven't seen many buyers.Covington plays New Bremen but football isn't very strong there.WLS opponents to date through 6 games-9 wins.Covington opponents to date through 6 games-16 wins.Coldwater opponents to date through 6 games-22 wins.The proof is in the pudding.

[o.a.b.]

My point isn't slamming or promoting or bragging.I would love to see a set-up that requires a school to play "x" amount of games against play-off teams from the prior year so that the cream always rises.The best way that I see that happening is for leagues to promte rotational schedules.The problem : travel time and money

[wls_color]

o.a.b. - I'm not disagreeing with any of that. I stated that WLS would lose to 7 of the MAC schools this year. I just took offense to being called a homer based on a pretty fair opinion of a game that probably won't happen...by someone who was actually being a homer (and is notorious for it). I feel for Covington, because WLS and Covington have been in the same situation for the past decade....they have great regular seasons...then run into the MAC buzz saw in the playoffs. Again, I'm realistic about it.

[wls_color]

And for the record, I put WLS' chance of coming out of this region at 0. I'm just being honest about it. There is no way, on any day that WLS beats Coldwater. They don't come within 4 TD's of them.

[IndianFan]

Originally Posted by wls_color

Yes, I cheer for them. I graduated from there. I broadcast games, I see them a handful of times per year, when they're on the radio. So how is it a lie? What's my affiliation?

I'm honest about it, about who I think they can beat and who I think they cannot. You obviously are not the same and never have been. You haven't turned a new leaf...you said that Covington would blow-out WLS....you didn't simply bet the odds. I was closer to the odds with a 35-34 projection.

WLS would lose to 7 of the schools in the MAC this year. Are you realistic enough to admit the same about Covington? You're not...so if it's an argument of who is a homer and who is realistic...it's really not an argument at all. Good luck to Covington from here on out and good luck on turning over that new leaf.

Just out of curiosity, which MAC schools do you think WLS and Covington would beat?

[swormofbuccs]

Originally Posted by wls_color

o.a.b. - I'm not disagreeing with any of that. I stated that WLS would lose to 7 of the MAC schools this year. I just took offense to being called a homer based on a pretty fair opinion of a game that probably won't happen...by someone who was actually being a homer (and is notorious for it). I feel for Covington, because WLS and Covington have been in the same situation for the past decade....they have great regular seasons...then run into the MAC buzz saw in the playoffs. Again, I'm realistic about it.

Not to continue this argument, but outside of Coldwater, who is heads above everyone in the MAC, the MAC is down from other years. This is coming straight from MAC fans, not me. I really think all the other teams are beatable. I'm not saying Covington could beat them all or WLS could beat them all, but don't sell yourself short. Covington beat New Bremen 27-7. New Bremen has beaten Parkway and Fort Recovery. Covington also held their own against Versailles in a 3 quarter scrimmage, which I know it was only a scrimmage, but the Buccs were missing 5 starters including the main running back. Like I said Coldwater is no doubt worldbeaters, but if ever there was a year in D6, this might be the year the MAC doesn't win. Unforunately, Covington is in D5 which doesn't look promising. However, if Covington ends up the 2 seed and Coldwater the 1 seed, Covington has a chance to play some non MAC teams. I can live with that.

[IndianFan]

Originally Posted by swormofbuccs

Not to continue this argument, but outside of Coldwater, who is heads above everyone in the MAC, the MAC is down from other years. This is coming straight from MAC fans, not me. I really think all the other teams are beatable. I'm not saying Covington could beat them all or WLS could beat them all, but don't sell yourself short. Covington beat New Bremen 27-7. New Bremen has beaten Parkway and Fort Recovery. Covington also held their own against Versailles in a 3 quarter scrimmage, which I know it was only a scrimmage, but the Buccs were missing 5 starters including the main running back. Like I said Coldwater is no doubt worldbeaters, but if ever there was a year in D6, this might be the year the MAC doesn't win. Unforunately, Covington is in D5 which doesn't look promising. However, if Covington ends up the 2 seed and Coldwater the 1 seed, Covington has a chance to play some non MAC teams. I can live with that.

I'd agree with that assessment. There aren't any of the DVI MAC teams that don't have some glaring weakness. I think it would come down to match ups.

[wilco98]

Originally Posted by IndianFan

Just out of curiosity, which MAC schools do you think WLS and Covington would beat?

Probably thinking of Parkway, New Bremen, and Ft. Recovery. Maybe Anna instead of FR.

[IndianFan]

Originally Posted by wilco98

Probably thinking of Parkway, New Bremen, and Ft. Recovery. Maybe Anna instead of FR.

LOL thanks for throwing that bone!

[bigbuccfan]

Originally Posted by wls_color

Yes, I cheer for them. I graduated from there. I broadcast games, I see them a handful of times per year, when they're on the radio. So how is it a lie? What's my affiliation?

I'm honest about it, about who I think they can beat and who I think they cannot. You obviously are not the same and never have been. You haven't turned a new leaf...you said that Covington would blow-out WLS....you didn't simply bet the odds. I was closer to the odds with a 35-34 projection.

WLS would lose to 7 of the schools in the MAC this year. Are you realistic enough to admit the same about Covington? You're not...so if it's an argument of who is a homer and who is realistic...it's really not an argument at all. Good luck to Covington from here on out and good luck on turning over that new leaf.

So you graduated from there...
Have a kid that goes to school there...
Openly root for them...
And broadcast some of their games...

AND YOU DON'T CONSIDER YOURSELF AFFILIATED WITH THEM???

I guess we have different opinions on a lot of things.

This season I believe Covington would have a decent shot at beating:

Versailles
Anna
Marion Local
St. Henry (play them next season as our out of conference game)
DSJ
Minster

I believe Covington would beat:

New Bremen (been there done that)
Fort Recovery (NB beat them)
Parkway (NB beat them)

I don't believe Covington will stay within 14 points of Coldwater. But I hope they get the shot.

Go home homer.....I believe WLS is probably where you live.

And by the way...when a fan stops believing his team can win.....he's no longer a fan IMO, and he should definitely not be affiliated with the team.