[docthehun]

Originally Posted by dorciepatrick

May God bless you, doc. I'm against the death penalty too, but I don't know that I would've had the strength that you had under those circumstances.

Thanks for the kind words Dorcie & DG! All these years later, it's either a tear or smile and sometimes both. :)

[DGUtley]

Originally Posted by o.a.b.

The death penalty never has nor will it ever be a deterrent to henious crimes--ergo,it serves no purpose except vengence.Buy an island in the Pacific,put them there.If they survive,it's a life sentence-if not,God decided justice.This was the origional idea behind Australia and our state of Georgia. No man is an island--poetic justice for those found guilty.

OAB, you and I agree on very little politically. I agree with you 100% on this one. Research has demonstrated time and time again that the death penalty serves no deterrent purpose. Thus, it serves only as vengeance. I don't want the goverment taking lives in the criminal justice system.

knew about the penal colony of Australia -- hadn't heard that about Georgia. Wikipedia suggest that you may be mistaken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...8U.S._state%29

[19AL63]

May be it was wishful thinking?

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Originally Posted by east_ohio

Dylan Klebold, Eric Harris, etc, etc.

They've been dead.

[NapRover]

I don't think lethal injection deters anything. But, in countries that have beheadings, etc., people aren't deterred there either. As much as I would like to see medieval torture make a comeback for people like the AZ and CO shooters, it's never going to happen. Meanwhile our corrupt system sends the poor to death while the rich get off (on occasion). Therefore it's got to go.

[o.a.b.]

Originally Posted by DGUtley

OAB, you and I agree on very little politically. I agree with you 100% on this one. Research has demonstrated time and time again that the death penalty serves no deterrent purpose. Thus, it serves only as vengeance. I don't want the goverment taking lives in the criminal justice system.

knew about the penal colony of Australia -- hadn't heard that about Georgia. Wikipedia suggest that you may be mistaken: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...8U.S._state%29

Read up on James Oglethorpe--a British fellow deep into religion.He formed a debtor's prison in Georgia which created a jump in the population of Georgia

[Zunardo]

Originally Posted by o.a.b.

The death penalty never has nor will it ever be a deterrent to henious crimes--ergo,it serves no purpose except vengence.Buy an island in the Pacific,put them there.If they survive,it's a life sentence-if not,God decided justice.This was the origional idea behind Australia and our state of Georgia.No man is an island--poetic justice for those found guilty.

Many interesting thoughts, o.a.b., but they don't jibe.

The death penalty is not vengeance; it is justice - an ultimate price for the ultimate crime against man. You could have said the same thing about any prison sentence for a lesser crime - it serves no purpose except vengeance. If true, then why do we still have prisons?

Also, have not found a reference where Georgia was founded to give life sentences to murderers. Do you have a link? Would be interesting to read about.

Originally Posted by o.a.b.

Read up on James Oglethorpe--a British fellow deep into religion.He formed a debtor's prison in Georgia which created a jump in the population of Georgia

I have to side with DGutley - I'm not seeing this as you have described, and have not seen reference to a debtor's prison in Georgia. Rather, Oglethorpe's intent was to found a colony formed by debtors from England - and he ended up shipping hardly any to America because he found enough volunteers who were not otherwise so oppressed - certainly no prisoners from the British version of Death Row were involved - and thus the Georgia baby boom you mentioned.

http://ourgeorgiahistory.com/people/oglethorpe.html