[bethere]

AG Holder vows to enforce federal Voting Rights Act in dispute over Texas photo ID requirement

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...pisrc=nl_pmfix

[BGFalcons82]

Can Holder enforce anything if he's in jail?

[o.a.b.]

Originally Posted by BGFalcons82

Can Holder enforce anything if he's in jail?

Does that change the law ?

[fish82]

Those whacky Texans....attempting to disenfranchise the fraudulent. The nerve. :rolleyes:

[bethere]

Originally Posted by BGFalcons82

Can Holder enforce anything if he's in jail?

1--he isn't;
2--he won't be'
3--your lame party's lame efforts have failed.
4--i post and you respond.

[bethere]

Originally Posted by fish82

Those whacky Texans....attempting to disenfranchise the fraudulent. The nerve. :rolleyes:

you guys hate freedom, argue that this isn't a democracy, and historically have sought to keep african-americans from the polls. that's why the 14th amendment exists and that is why the voting rights act demands that you clear any and all of this through the department of justice before it can take effect.

the south brought it on themselves, and now they bring it to the republican party.


in recent days republicans have argued:
1--that women shouldn't vote;
2--that 18 year olds shouldn't vote;
3--that felons who have done their time should not vote;
4--that we shouldn't vote for president or the US senate;
5--that the 14th amendment is unconstitutional and shouldn't have been ratified;

"“Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation - abortion facility regulations - in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done,”--Pennsylvania House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R)
:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...crjA& cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...LBNw& cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...mFmNBA&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...OY26ow&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...KfZPhQ&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...fnxe4g&cad=rja

[fish82]

Originally Posted by bethere

you guys hate freedom, argue that this isn't a democracy, and historically have sought to keep african-americans from the polls. that's why the 14th amendment exists and that is why the voting rights act demands that you clear any and all of this through the department of justice before it can take effect.

the south brought it on themselves, and now they bring it to the republican party.


in recent days republicans have argued:
1--that women shouldn't vote;
2--that 18 year olds shouldn't vote;
3--that felons who have done their time should not vote;
4--that we shouldn't vote for president or the US senate;
5--that the 14th amendment is unconstitutional and shouldn't have been ratified;

"“Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation - abortion facility regulations - in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done,”--Pennsylvania House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R)
:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOT1bRYdK8

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...crjA& cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...LBNw& cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...mFmNBA&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...OY26ow&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...KfZPhQ&cad=rja

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...fnxe4g&cad=rja

Deflection, strawman, and ad hominem all in one post. You're on fire. :rolleyes:

Hey...I post, you respond. How fun is that? :cool:

[BGFalcons82]

Originally Posted by o.a.b.

Does that change the law ?

As I recall, this administration only enforces laws they agree with. The hell with being the Executive Branch when there's liberalism to defend:

DOMA?
Voter Intimidation?
The SOUTHERN BORDER?
Granting ILLEGALS legal status?

Picking and choosing which laws to enforce and which ones to ignore sure sounds fair, doesn't it?

Why are people soooooo quick to defend ILLEGAL citizens the right to vote in AMERICA? Why is it a "civil right" for people here ILLEGALLY to be treated as if they're my equal in voting status?

Here's hoping the Texas Mounties meet the Mexican Drug Lord Arms Suppliers Gang at the border. Perry said a couple years ago after ObamaKare passed that he'd consider secession. This certainly fills a good reason for it.

[BGFalcons82]

Originally Posted by bethere

1--he isn't;
2--he won't be'
3--your lame party's lame efforts have failed.
4--i post and you respond.

1 - He's earned his cell. Someone should throw his arse in one.
2 - Executive Privilege means anyone can break the law...right?
3 - The only lameness is Holder's ignorance of the law and his complete disregard for Brian Terry's life and family. Holder = Gross Incompetence
4 - So farking what?

[Homer Falcon]

Originally Posted by fish82

Deflection, strawman, and ad hominem all in one post. You're on fire. :rolleyes:

Hey...I post, you respond. How fun is that? :cool:

Yer gettin' good at this!

Mitt approves of this message!

[Homer Falcon]

Originally Posted by BGFalcons82

1 - He's earned his cell. Someone should throw his arse in one.
2 - Executive Privilege means anyone can break the law...right?
3 - The only lameness is Holder's ignorance of the law and his complete disregard for Brian Terry's life and family. Holder = Gross Incompetence
4 - So farking what?

#3 The left hates Brian Terry. But, the ghost of Rachel Corrie is immortal.

Why is that? ;)

[east_ohio]

If the Presidential election was tomorrow and I was undecided on who to vote for..............The shear incompentence and ineptness of Holder would force me to vote for Romney. As a matter of fact, Holder has played a huge part in me voting for Romney come Nov.

[Homer Falcon]

Originally Posted by east_ohio

If the Presidential election was tomorrow and I was undecided on who to vote for..............The shear incompentence and ineptness of Holder would force me to vote for Romney. As a matter of fact, Holder has played a huge part in me voting for Romney come Nov.

Agreed. However, Holder knows this. He will fall on his sword and die a martyr.

[bethere]

Originally Posted by Homer Falcon

Agreed. However, Holder knows this. He will fall on his sword and die a martyr.

no he won't. you were so sure that the supreme court would back arizona, and that didn't happen even though the gop controls the court. this won't happen either. instead..

1--holder survives easily;
2--holder will stop voter suppression in republican courts--how cool is that?

face it. holder schooled you guys. that is what this is all about. 2/3 americans don't even know who the attorney general is even after all of your jive and posturing.

[Homer Falcon]

Originally Posted by bethere

no he won't. you were so sure that the supreme court would back arizona, and that didn't happen even though the gop controls the court. this won't happen either. instead..

1--holder survives easily;
2--holder will stop voter suppression in republican courts--how cool is that?

face it. holder schooled you guys. that is what this is all about. 2/3 americans don't even know who the attorney general is even after all of your jive and posturing.

I hope you're right. Mr. east_ohio will explain my reasoning to you.

But, you are wrong.

Brian Terry > Rachel Corrie

[DGUtley]

We have been over this ad nauseum. Nobody has yet to explain to me how asking people to produce an ID Card to vote somehow disenfrancises anybody, except the people that are trying to vote fraudulently. In Medina County, I produce a photo ID Card to vote. I also understand that you have to have a photo ID in this country to do the following things: cash a check, use a medicare / medicaid card, use an insurance card, pick up your kids at a grade school, take out a library book, pic-up a handgun that The Fin had returned to Sig Sauer for you, get electrical / gas service, get a cell phone, open any accounts, get BWC benefits, get unemployment benefits, get cable television service and many many other things.

I do think that Holder will be forced out by The One, but at a time where The One can claim maximum political "i did it for you poor folks" advantage.

[SBFAMILY]

Well the Left can’t argue anymore that no one cheats, after the breaking news that voter fraud happened in NY City and the Democrats involved are now facing Jail Time.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...er-fraud-case/

[buckeyedan]

Originally Posted by bethere

you guys hate freedom,

I'd go farther but why bother... you brought up the topic and then don't seem interested in the actuall to pick

Fish is right

Originally Posted by fish82

Deflection, strawman, and ad hominem all in one post. You're on fire. :rolleyes:

Hey...I post, you respond. How fun is that? :cool:

Originally Posted by o.a.b.

Does that change the law ?

typically it shouldn't
in the current administration yes... they feel they get to make or follow whatever laws they want and make up the rest...

Originally Posted by Homer Falcon

Agreed. However, Holder knows this. He will fall on his sword and die a martyr.

I agree... though he may be "helped" to fall on his sword...
Obama will need somebody else to blame!

Originally Posted by DGUtley

We have been over this ad nauseum. Nobody has yet to explain to me how asking people to produce an ID Card to vote somehow disenfrancises anybody, except the people that are trying to vote fraudulently.

It is not deep... starting around the Kennedy era (when he would win districts in Chicago by more than the number of folks living in the district) the Democrat moto of vote early, vote often... and don't let death stop you! is the only chance they have to win elections...

[bethere]

Originally Posted by buckeyedan

you are right... the Democratic party clearly fought tooth and nail to keep minorities from voting... heck in slavery.

a funny thing, our racist southern democratic friends are now all republicans. so those democratic racists are now all republican racists. you courted them and they came running into your open arms.

in the 1800-1900's politics were all regional, rather than driven by ideology. each party had both ideologies in large numbers. that all changed in the 1960's with the nixon strategy.


examples? republicans oppose the 14th amendment. they oppose the voting rights act. they oppose the civil rights act... do you need me to continue the list? on one hand you'd like to take credit for them, on the other you openly and actively oppose them.

of course, you knew all that, right?

i am here to teach you anything else about history that you might want to learn.

[buckeyedan]

too funny...
you acknowledge the facts (they were southern DEMOCRATES)... then just decided they would now be republicans just because...

you ever try standup?

and all I have to do to get you to stop answering or let everyone understand how you will REFUSE to answer:

14th amendment... proposed by congress on June 13, 1866...
that congress had 70% republicans in the house and 75% in the senate

northern states... controlled by republicans... easily ratified it... southern states, at the time totally dominated by democrates... struggled to

so how again are you claiming an amendment proposed by a congres over 70% republican was "opposed" by those same republicans?

I'll wait for your typical ignoring of the question and making personal attacks...