[cantdunk]

I haven't seen anything, so I thought I'd post. A little surprising, in my opinion.

1. Hiland
2. Garaway
3. Strasburg
4. Rosecrans

Upper
Hiland vs. Toronto
Rosecrans vs. Tuscarawas Central Catholic

Lower
Garaway vs. Malvern
Strasburg vs. Connotton Valley

Riverview's win over Rosecrans opens the door for the IVC schools to vote the Bishops out of the top seeds. I really didn't see Hiland and Rosecrans being in the same half of the draw. Wow.

[richland sports]

Rosecrans could make them pay . Any word on the other half of the district. Shadyside, Beallsville etc.

[JLGHoops]

I dont have a dog in this fight, just curious. Didnt Garaway and Strasburg split with Hiland? Doesnt Hiland have many more losses than either of those two? If yes to both, is it....
1. Just respect for program that got them the #1
2. There losses were to bigger better programs
3. A little back room plan stuck them at #1 so they would have to play Rosecrans. That could have seriously backfired if Rosecrans chose to go with 2 & 3.

[cantdunk]

This does work out well for Strasburg and Garaway. If Rosecrans beats RV, they're the #2 seed. Since they lost by 20, that was enough to move them down.

Have you seen the Pirates or Tigers play? Garaway has beaten Riverview and Dover from the ECOL, so I don't think you can say that Rosecrans is substantially better. Garaway and Strasburg have both beaten Hiland, so I'd say they've earned their seeds. Who in this district would beat either of them by 30? Can Rosecrans beat any team in this tournament? Definitely. Is it a guarantee? No way.

[JLGHoops]

I totally agree Garaway and Strasburg deserve the seeds. I was surprised Hiland got the #1. Bottom line is they all will play someone good in round two and again in district final, but I just found it peculiar it fell out the way it did.

[hawkeyz]

I am always trying to figure out the politics of these things, but rarely can. But first, there is an IVC dominance at Claymont, so if you are Rosecrans, Toronto, and CV you probably aren't going to fair too well. Second, teams vote to avoid some teams and get in the same bracket as others.

Before Rosey lost to RV by 22 I would have put them #1 followed in some order by Garaway, Hiland, and Strasburg. Garaway's problem is that they are the 3rd place IVC team. Hiland's problem is that they aren't playing well, have lost 6 games, and will probably lose 8. Strasburg's problem is that they aren't playing that well and have played the weakest schedule of the 3. Garaway is playing the best of those 3. Hiland has played the toughest schedule, probably the best in program history(Wooster, Cinc Winthrow, N Canton Hoover, St. V St. Mary, Garaway, Strasburg, W Holmes, and Wadsworth), and Strasburg will probably be no worse than IVC co-champs. So, it's a morass.

Bottom line is that we have Hiland vs. Rosecrans on one side of the bracket and Garaway vs. Strasburg on the other. I like it. But I still can't figure out who got what they wanted and who got screwed. Maybe no one, maybe everyone!

[hawkeyz]

Originally Posted by chalpy

No doubt Rosecrans is substantially better than Garaway.

No sir. I think Garaway is playing way better right now. I'm buying their stock. A 22 point loss to RV is not the way you want to head into the sectional. RV has really progressed this year, but not that much.

[jetsfan 2.0]

im shocked that hiland got the number 1 seed. hiland will probably end up 12-8 on the regular season. that either shows this is a week sectional or the coaches voted completely wrong

[JLGHoops]

Originally Posted by jetsfan 2.0

im shocked that hiland got the number 1 seed. hiland will probably end up 12-8 on the regular season. that either shows this is a week sectional or the coaches voted completely wrong

...or the four coaches in the bracket opposite Hiland and Rosecrans had a plan....

[hawkeyz]

Now that's what I'm talking about! I knew there was some hanky panky going on! But I've thought that in the past and found out it was our coaches that wanted it the way it turned out.

Yeah, TCC is in a bad way. I guess they have had some injuries and a discipline issue.

I can make a good case for SBurg as the #1 seed. After all, they have the best record and will be IVC champs. It wouldn't have bothered me at all to see that, but there is a case against them too.

I guess I look at it this way, no matter how you mix them up, RCrans, Hiland, Garaway, and SBurg were going to have to play each other at some point to advance. If you are afraid of, say, Garaway, if you don't see them in the sectional, you will probably have to in the district to advance. So does it really matter all that much? I'm not sure.

But to JLG's point, I thought the best chance of a conspiracy was the lower bracket IVC coaches getting together and executing a plan. But again, Garaway/SBurg on a neutral floor is a heck of a match up, so a conspiracy to what end? The only thing I can think of is that the Garaway/Burg winner might not face Shadyside in the district semi game but would face the other Union Local sectional winner???

I guess I'm confused about how and why the bracket was seeded the way it was, but content with the outcome.

[hawkeyz]

Originally Posted by jetsfan 2.0

im shocked that hiland got the number 1 seed. hiland will probably end up 12-8 on the regular season. that either shows this is a week sectional or the coaches voted completely wrong

It was either part of some plan or it would indicate that playing 6 DI or II regional/state contenders, and losing close in each, counts for something.

But I'd say this is the best sectional I've ever seen at Claymont, and it is probably one of the best in the state. There are a bunch of really bad girls teams in DIV.

The Gnaden district will be much tougher than the regional that the winner will go to. Shouldn't be that way, but it is. Next year Lake Ridge Academy will be back in the tournament, so the regional will immediately get much tougher.

[ryan11677]

For the first time in forever people are actually talking about this sectional. humans has owned this sectional so its great to finally have some competition

[ryan11677]

I meant hiland owned this sectional I am on my phone which you have to check and make sure the word u spell is the one that comes out

[alexamy]

rosecrans was 2-0 against div 1 teams. BEATING a 14-3 zanesville at zville And beating New Philly
8-2 against Div 2 teams beating a 14-3 marietta at Marieta, beating 11-6 River View , and a 14-3 Dover at Dover. Their 2 losses were Dayton Chaminade who is 15-2 and one of top teams in state. And River View at RV
They were 2-1 against div 3 with loss to 16-2 Fort Frye
They only play 3 div 4 games and 2 of them were against 16-2 Shadyside. which they split with.
Hiland 0-3 against div 1
hiland 0-1 against div 2
hiland 4-0 against div 3
hiland 6-2 against div 4
garaway 0-0 div 1
garaway 3-0 div 2
garaway 6-1 div 3
garaway 5-2 div 4
Strausburg 0-0 div 1
strausburg 0-0 div 2
strausburg 8-0 div 3
strausburg 7-2 div 4

[cantdunk]

What was the score with Chaminade? I haven't seen that one.

[rvhssports1966]

Originally Posted by cantdunk

What was the score with Chaminade? I haven't seen that one.

48-31

[goirish]

Obviously, Rosecrans should have at worst gotten the #2 seed. I am sure the IVC teams were trying to ensure that 2 of them will make it to the district. They always stick together. That will never change.

[cantdunk]

Both Garaway and Strasburg have beaten the #1 seed. They've split with each other. Garaway has 3 losses. Strasburg has 2. Rosecrans has 4.

Garaway beat River View at River View and Dover by a similar score as Rosecrans. To me, that makes the two teams comparable/even. The Pirates have also been in the sweet 16 3 out of the last four years in division III.
Please explain why it is so obvious that Rosecrans deserves the higher seed?

It is obvious that Garaway and Strasburg saw an opportunity to pit Hiland and Rosecrans against each other. I think that is smart. I don't think conference schools sticking together is unique to this sectional nor do I think this seeding is necessarily a slight to Rosecrans.

Neither bracket will be easy. You throw a vastly improved Connotton Valley team in with the Tigers and Pirates, and that's a pretty tough sectional draw. And the winner will mostly likely get Shadyside in the district opener.

[alexamy]

Agree any of the top 4 or even 5 seeds could win it and would'nt be a shocker ! Don't know much about Conotten but heard they are better than previous years. Reason imo that Rosecrans should be num 1 seed is they played 12 div 1 and 2 teams. Not only did they play them they were 10-2. Hiland 0-4 , Garaway no div 1 and 3-0 div 2, and Strausburg didnt play any. They have more good wins than anyone else. Of their six div 3 and 4 games they played State Ranked 16-2 Fort Frye and State Ranked 16-2 Shadyside twice ! Only play three div 4 games.
In the end it does'nt matter. No easy road out of Sectional ! At least three very good teams are NOT making it out of their Sectional !

[Rocco83]

When does all this action start at Claymont?