[YTOWN]

Gentlemen,


The following is the updated list of the Top 25 playoff programs of all-time using the OHSFCA formula. The numbers listed left-to-right in parentheses are the teams’ playoff won-lost record, number of playoff appearances, state championships and then the OHSFCA point value. The value is based on 1 point per playoff appearance plus 2 points per playoff victory plus 3 points per playoff championship.

1) Newark Catholic (63-23) (31) (8) 181
2) St. Ignatius (61-12) (23) (11) 178
3) Youngstown Cardinal Mooney (56-17) (25) (8) 161
4) Columbus DeSales (48-19) (22) (3) 127
5) Delphos St. John's (47-8) (14) (6) 126
Mogadore (46-21) (24) (3) 126
7) Steubenville (46-21) (24) (3) 125
8) Cincinnati Moeller (36-23) (30) (7) 123
Versailles (44-11) (17) (6) 123
10) Ironton (43-27) (29) (2) 121
11) Maria Stein Marion Local (48-9) (14) (5) 115
12) St. Henry (41-8) (14) (6) 114
13) Coldwater (45-15) (17) (2) 113
14) Columbus Watterson (39-19) (21) (2) 105
15) Cleveland Benedictine (34-11) (17) (6) 103
16) Canton McKinley (34-17) (20) (3) 97
17) Mentor Lake Catholic (34-16) (19) (3) 96
Youngstown Ursuline (34-12) (16) (4) 96
19) Amanda Clearcreek (33-16) (18) (2) 90
Cincinnati St. Xavier (33-16) (18) (2) 90
21) Germantown Valley View (30-13) (16) (3) 85
22) Kettering Alter (30-15) (17) (2) 83
Orrville (29-21) (22) (1) 83
24) Marion Pleasant (25-16) (19) (3) 78
25) Akron Buchtel (29-11) (13) (2) 77

[NBHS_1988]

What place would St Mary's Memorial fall into this catagory?

[YTOWN]

St. Marys is tied for 37th with Lakewood St. Edward.

St. Marys has a 20-12 playoff record, 15 appearances, 3 titles, 64 points.

[NBHS_1988]

Can St Mary's record be pro-rated, due to their play-off runs happened when there were four teams that made it into the playoffs?

[YTOWN]

Originally Posted by NBHS_1988

Can St Mary's record be pro-rated, due to their play-off runs happened when there were four teams that made it into the playoffs?

Only if you did the same thing for everybody else. Some of the teams listed ahead of St. Marys made it a few times when only 1 team per region qualified. Actually St. Marys did also, they lost to Elyria Catholic and Brookfield in 1977 & 78 respectively so they received the 1-point for qualifying and that's all in those two years.

As an example, four of Moeller's titles came when only 1 team qualified and those Moeller teams could have certainly won more than two games each season which is all they played to win a title from 1972-79. Obviously it was much more difficult to qualify then of course but the formula is what is. It comes from the Ohio High School Football Coaches Assoc. I just plug the numbers in.

If I were to pro-rate it I would make it worth more for qualifying in those years when only 1 or two teams made it.

[MrBob]

By my count of the top 25 looks like 13 are public and 12 are private, is that right? Do you know what the breakdown would be for the top 50 or even 100?

[roll_red_roll]

Looks right to me MrBob

[YTOWN]

Originally Posted by MrBob

By my count of the top 25 looks like 13 are public and 12 are private, is that right? Do you know what the breakdown would be for the top 50 or even 100?

MrBob,

For years I posted the top 50. I got lazy this year.

26-50:

26) Akron St. Vincent-St. Mary (24-12) (16) (4) 76
27) Cincinnati Colerain (28-13) (14) (1) 73
28) Warren JFK (26-17) (18) (1) 73
29) Cincinnati Elder (26-12) (14) (2) 72
Hilliard Davidson (27-10) (12) (2) 72
Norwalk St. Paul (28-12) (13) (1) 72
32) Wheelersburg (22-22) (23) (1) 70
33) Massillon (25-19) (19) (0) 69
34) Walsh Jesuit (24-15) (16) (1) 67
35) Liberty Center (24-14) (15) 66
36) Newark Licking Valley (26-13) (13) (0) 65
37) Lakewood St. Edward (22-16) (17) (1) 64
St. Marys Memorial (20-12) (15) (3) 64
39) Shadyside (25-13) (13) (0) 63
40) Avon Lake (21-15) (16) (1) 61
Cincinnati Princeton (19-11) (14) (3) 61
Hamler Patrick Henry (22-13) (14) (1) 61
43) Hamilton Badin (19-18) (19) (1) 60
44) Kenton (22-7) (9) (2) 59
Solon (21-17) (17) (0) 59
46) Chardon (22-10) (11) (1) 58
Fostoria (19-12) (14) (2) 58
48) Uiontown Lake (20-16) (16) (0) 56
49) Dola Hardin Northern (20-11) (12) (1) 55
Elyria Catholic (16-11) (14) (3) 55
West Jefferson (16-15) (17) (2) 55

[1_beast]

Originally Posted by MrBob

By my count of the top 25 looks like 13 are public and 12 are private, is that right? Do you know what the breakdown would be for the top 50 or even 100?

Seems kinda unbalanced when you factor in the ratio of schools in those 2 classifications...

[MrBob]

Originally Posted by 1_beast

Seems kinda unbalanced when you factor in the ratio of schools in those 2 classifications...

Not really unbalanced when you also factor in the Tradition, Coaches and Alumni support with those teams in the top 25 or 50 because those are the teams that are in the playoffs consistently from year to year reguardless of Public or Private!

[pool12man]

Is it 14 point Max in a year?

[YTOWN]

Originally Posted by pool12man

Is it 14 point Max in a year?

Yes sir. Using the OHSFCA formula 14 is the max in a season since OHSAA expanded to 8 teams per region in 1999. For the teams that qualified from 1972-79, 8 was the maximum. From 1980-84, 10 was the max. and from 1985-1998, 12 was the maximum.

[Hocus Pocus]

An interesting data point to add to the list would be the year each school started playing football.

[run n shoot 08]

Shouldn't Bishop Hartley should be on there with an 18-8 playoff record, 10 playoff appearances and 2 state championships?

[YTOWN]

Originally Posted by run n shoot 08

Shouldn't Bishop Hartley should be on there with an 18-8 playoff record, 10 playoff appearances and 2 state championships?

No sir, not in the top 50. Your numbers are correct but that makes Bishop Hartley 54th with 52 points.

[BOLDGOLD5]

Nice work as always. Now, where is the column for flags thrown in playoff games? Isn't there a point adjustment for that?

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

[MrBob]

Originally Posted by BOLDGOLD5

Nice work as always. Now, where is the column for flags thrown in playoff games? Isn't there a point adjustment for that?

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

But do you get points if they are thrown against you or for you? LOL

MERRY CHRISTMAS to you too!

[Go_Fast_Sports]

Originally Posted by MrBob

By my count of the top 25 looks like 13 are public and 12 are private, is that right? Do you know what the breakdown would be for the top 50 or even 100?

And the Top 5 are private.... very interesting fact to the public vs private debates on here.

[Bruce Monnin]

And my team in Minster had 5 of the top 13 on our schedule this year. Good thing we beat two of them.

[Hocus Pocus]

Alumni support was mentioned above...I am curious who, of the top 25, have a dedicated football foundation/booster/alumni/etc group or club. I know Mooney and Alter have football foundations versus something like what Valley View or Mogadore have, which is an athletic boosters club to support all sports at the school.