[miami valley coach]

What's the best way to break the bad news?

[gamauter]

Honestly.

[doublerods]

Agree. Some kids need their plate broke...just gotta do it gently

[ytownirish]

And also challenge them to prove you wrong.

[Junior]

provide data of what d1 college athletes do/are and how it compares to most student athletes, explain outliers and how/why they succeed

[gamauter]

If the player loves football and has good grades I would encourage him to find a lower division program he likes and apply for money based on his grades.

[wisdome]

Originally Posted by miami valley coach

What's the best way to break the bad news?

You shouldn't. Let the process work out by itself. What you may think the player does not have may be seen different by another coach.

[Junior]

Originally Posted by wisdome

You shouldn't. Let the process work out by itself. What you may think the player does not have may be seen different by another coach.

wow, how about giving the young athlete the benefit of a coaches opinion and let them know where they stand

[bballfan]

Well if you dont have a good relationship with the kid, its hard for you to be sincere, and the kid is emotional.....then no you probably dont say much to him. When college coaches DONT come knocking on his door, hell get the point.

Likewise, there is nothing wrong with laying out a plan to accomplish goals. A good coach will have these kinds of talks during the offseason with players, and come to an agreement as to where they stand, and where they want to go. Its at this point that you tell the 6'3 slow, unathletic post player(like someone I know) that if you ever want to take your game to the next level, you have alot of work ahead of you, and the first goal should be daily prayer.

If the kid really does have the notion to play D1, then dont squash that dream. Dreamers are good cause they tend to work real hard toward their dream. Mark Titus got two years of a scholarship at Ohio State, and there are lots of walk-ons who earn their way into some money at school.

[wisdome]

Originally Posted by Junior

wow, how about giving the young athlete the benefit of a coaches opinion and let them know where they stand

You said it...it is an opinion nothing else. What really matters is what is transpiring in the kids lfe regarding his recruiting events. Is he being contacted, is he not, is he doing the home work for exposure, is he not, etc. How can I tell a person that he is not capable of playing DI when there are DIIs better than DI schools.

Let the process work itself out and encourage the kid to do his best.

[doublerods]

I've had success with sitting down w a player and watching video or his "highlights". Ask the kid where he expects to go and then search a recently signed recruit at that university. Compare the 2 videos w the player. Make him pick out points to video (+,-)..

[Junior]

Originally Posted by wisdome

is he doing the home work for exposure.

man are we worlds apart, i would say it is a coaches job to worry about "exposure", and what does that have to do with letting a young person know what a trusted experienced adult thinks

[doublerods]

Hahahaa. I would like to know what aexactly a kid has to do for exposure besides make plays and get good grades

[wisdome]

Originally Posted by Junior

man are we worlds apart, i would say it is a coaches job to worry about "exposure", and what does that have to do with letting a young person know what a trusted experienced adult thinks

Why will it be the coaches job to worry about exposure? The more work the kid does the better chance he has of making a better decision. They are recruting the player...not the coach.

I don't think we are worlds apart. They way you think things should go vs how I think should may be different...but the intent as I see is working for the best for th kid. I can live with that any time of the day.

[doublerods]

"The more work the kid does the better chance"...what is that in reference to? Their play? Doing recruiting service? Curious bc i have to side w jr. They may be recruiting the player but they still go thru the coach.

[lmavcch3]

Could exposure be talking about summer camps, etc to get his name out? That's more on the player and his family.

[doublerods]

Definetly. 1&3 day camps are big

[Junior]

exposure: sending out tapes, discussing the player with the appropriate college recruiters, making calls, discussing the best camps/schools for the players level

if you do not think these fall under a coaches responsibility i feel sorry for your players

[wisdome]

Should we also play the game for them?

If the college coach asks me about the player I would tell them my thoughts. I may contact the coaches to let them know that I have some viable players for their program, but the vast majority of the calls, sending the DVDs or where they can be located on you tube, finding out about camps, etc must be initiated by the player.

Allow thost kids to grow. It will be their place hopefully for the next four years...not the coach's

[doublerods]

Wow. That is just plain ignorant.