[ruready]

I'm a bit confused as to the rule changes, I understand for 2012 bats must be BBCOR certified. But how about this year does anything go. I was wandering about our Exogrid we bought last season 2010. Also how many innings a week can a high school pitcher throw. Any links to the pitching rules would be helpful.

[osu86]

Originally Posted by ruready

I'm a bit confused as to the rule changes, I understand for 2012 bats must be BBCOR certified. But how about this year does anything go. I was wandering about our Exogrid we bought last season 2010. Also how many innings a week can a high school pitcher throw. Any links to the pitching rules would be helpful.

Your Exo from last year is fine. THe only bats not legal are the composite bats that don't have a BBCOR certification, in other words the bats that can be rolled like the composite Easton Stealths, Combats, or other composite brands.

I have never seen a pitching limitation in high school. There are no pitching rules like in most youth leagues.

[Zanesvegas]

Au contraire on the pitching rules. These have been around for some time now. From the 2011 preseason manual (which is available online at ohssa.org):

Rule 6-1-6 (page 39)

Each state association shall adopt a pitching restriction to afford pitchers a reasonable rest period between pitching appearances.
No player may pitch in more than l0 innings in a three day period. This regulation is mandatory. The following examples are all permitted:

S M T W T F S
0 0 7 0 0 7 0
0 4 3 2 5 3 2
3 3 3 3 3 3 0
0 10 0 0 7 0 3
0 0 7 0 0 7 3
0 0 0 0 0 6 4
0 0 6 l 0 9 l

The limit is on a player as a pitcher. If he can pitch with either arm he is limited as a pitcher, not ten innings per arm. A player pitching in an eleventh inning in a three-day period is considered an ineligible player.

Any part of an inning is considered as an inning relative to the pitching rule.

[PatGunner3]

If you know the model number for the bat, you can use the following web site to determine if it is legal for 2011 or 2012+ (NCAA specific):
http://m-5.eng.uml.edu/umlbrc/ncaa_certified_bats.asp

Info including exempt bats can be found here:
http://www.nfhs.org/baseball.aspx

[NLLRAM]

try this link for list of legal composite bats as of 12/1/2010

http://www.nfhs.org/content.aspx?id=4155

[bucco_fan]

I went to the site above and did not see the Louisville Slugger Exogrid listed. However on the Louisville website it states it meets BESR standards. OSU 86, just for clarification the Exo IS permitted this year correct? If so, is there a reason it isn't on that NFHS site? Maybe I am missing something.

[4LoveOTGame]

Composite bats were banned for high school this year however waivers were given for quite a few for this year only. The NFHS site is showing composite bats that have received waivers for this year only. The exogrid is not a composite bat so you will not see it on the list, and it is fine for this year.

[bucco_fan]

4love, thanks. Not sure what I was thinking about the Exo being composite.

[Red Rider]

I read an article where a college coach pointed out that the clearest example of the impact of the new bats was evident in his batting practices with the new bats. He stated that his team had a couple batting practices this fall where there was not a single home run hit.

As a parent, who has spent considerable $ on bats, I have to give serious consideration to just buying my son wood (in 2012) at about one third of the cost of the premium metal/composite bats. I mean if there really isn't a performance difference, or if it is minimal, what is the point of spending big dollars on a metal bat that performs like wood? Not complaining here, in fact I'm pretty happy about this because my son pitches and is just a freshman in HS, so he will benefit in that role. Just thinking that it is kind of stupid to shell out money for a product that doesn't do much more than a decent wood bat...

[big_rukus]

The costs of buying a GOOD wood bat will far exceed metal. Avg wood of decent quality goes for 70-80$, add on additional bats for those that breske, you will be in the ballpark of 300-400$ before it's all said and done.

[big_rukus]

Avg BBCOR bat is at $200, including your warranty that's good for a year.

[Red Rider]

Originally Posted by big_rukus

The costs of buying a GOOD wood bat will far exceed metal. Avg wood of decent quality goes for 70-80$, add on additional bats for those that breske, you will be in the ballpark of 300-400$ before it's all said and done.

That would be a valid argument. I certainly haven't done a lot of research into the durability of wood bats to see if it is likely that I would spend more on replacing bats.

I heard (quite some time ago) that Bamboo bats were very strong. Does anyone know anything about them? Are they all that they are cracked up to be (pun intended)?

[big_rukus]

Bamboo bats are pretty strong, however it still boils down to a hitter. If the hitter has poor mechanics he/she will break whatever wood they use.

[Red Rider]

$400 BBCOR bat...Easton Omen. Why? (Maybe they use REALLY expensive paint). Also, who in marketing at Easton thought it was a good idea to name the bat Omen this year? LOL

http://www.baseballexp.com/Baseball-...0003/index.pro

[Clearance McGee]

Originally Posted by Red Rider

$400 BBCOR bat...Easton Omen. Why? (Maybe they use REALLY expensive paint). Also, who in marketing at Easton thought it was a good idea to name the bat Omen this year? LOL

http://www.baseballexp.com/Baseball-...0003/index.pro

Exactly. A veteran D1 college coach told me the only difference between BBCOR bats will be the paint. Other than that, they'll all be identical.

[Red Rider]

Originally Posted by Clearance McGee

Exactly. A veteran D1 college coach told me the only difference between BBCOR bats will be the paint. Other than that, they'll all be identical.

That's the goal anyway, but that was also the goal of BESR's and yet loopholes were still found.