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Default 08-27-2012, 11:08 AM

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you'd never take obama's word for it... and we won't take romney's. that's why he needs to produce those tax returns.
right... and why would you?
hypocracy is your life

but if I had the Obama record I would yell about anything I could to distract

must be hard on Obama and his staff to know they have failed and know they simply can't tell the truth or let the truth come up
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Default "we all float down here."--where are those tax returns? - 08-27-2012, 12:47 PM

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right... and why would you?
hypocracy is your life

but if I had the Obama record I would yell about anything I could to distract

must be hard on Obama and his staff to know they have failed and know they simply can't tell the truth or let the truth come up

1--IF YOU HAD NOTHING TO HIDE YOU WOULD BE GLAD TO SHARE THE RETURNS;
2--YOU ARE HIDING SOMETHING;
3--COUGH UP THE RETURNS.
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Default 08-27-2012, 12:55 PM

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1--IF YOU HAD NOTHING TO HIDE YOU WOULD BE GLAD TO SHARE THE RETURNS;
2--YOU ARE HIDING SOMETHING;
3--COUGH UP THE RETURNS.
No.

Next question?
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Default 08-27-2012, 01:46 PM

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1--IF YOU HAD NOTHING TO HIDE YOU WOULD BE GLAD TO SHARE THE RETURNS;
2--YOU ARE HIDING SOMETHING;
3--COUGH UP THE RETURNS.
Using this logic, Obama is hiding something in his Birth Certificate and academic records.

I can't wait to hear the spin on this one.
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Default we'll raise taxes, cut the military, and everything will fall neatly into place. - 08-27-2012, 06:13 PM

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Using this logic, Obama is hiding something in his Birth Certificate and academic records.

I can't wait to hear the spin on this one.
it was a joke you idiot.

i NEVER think that keeping records or anything else private is an indication of guilt. the GOP cites that all the time when demanding that we give up civil liberties on critical issues such as search and seizure as well as probable cause. you know, 'why should we worry about probable cause if we have nothing to hide?' or 'why should we worry about random frisks for guns in public in nyc if we have nothing to hide.'

it is without a question a logical fallacy.
1--the joke is the GOP falls for it and cites it all of the time;
2--the irony is lost on you as you don't understand irony;
3--there is NO connection between obama acadmic records and romney's situation... this is a false equivalence;
4--obama has already supplied his birth records, yet we still don't have one (1) complete tax return from romney;
5--interacting with me is no substitute for getting a real college education.
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Default Squirrel! - 08-27-2012, 06:44 PM

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it was a joke you idiot.

i NEVER think that keeping records or anything else private is an indication of guilt. the GOP cites that all the time when demanding that we give up civil liberties on critical issues such as search and seizure as well as probable cause. you know, 'why should we worry about probable cause if we have nothing to hide?' or 'why should we worry about random frisks for guns in public in nyc if we have nothing to hide.'

it is without a question a logical fallacy.
1--the joke is the GOP falls for it and cites it all of the time;
2--the irony is lost on you as you don't understand irony;
3--there is NO connection between obama acadmic records and romney's situation... this is a false equivalence;
4--obama has already supplied his birth records, yet we still don't have one (1) complete tax return from romney;
5--interacting with me is no substitute for getting a real college education.
Aaahhh...the bethere we've come to know and love. Thanks for pushing it back to the edge...much more fun that way.

It's the economy, stupid.


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Default 08-27-2012, 08:50 PM

The problem with our country is the DemoCRIPS & ReBLOODicans.
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Default 08-28-2012, 07:24 AM

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1--IF YOU HAD NOTHING TO HIDE YOU WOULD BE GLAD TO SHARE THE RETURNS;
2--YOU ARE HIDING SOMETHING;
3--COUGH UP THE RETURNS.
As Clinton would say... it's the economy stupid.
Nobody cares and it just makes birthers look not so crazy.
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Default 08-28-2012, 07:49 AM

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1--the joke is the GOP falls for it and cites it all of the time;
both parties tend to want folks to give up civil liberties... democrats do the same thing telling us what we can eat or drink or how big our slurpy can be...

rights always have two sides... the right to be protected from search and seizure vs the right to have not have cimminals free on the street or the right of the person to eat/drink/smoke what the want vs the right of everyone else to not have to pay for their health problems

there are rights on both sides so in these types of questions you have to look past the simple rhetoric of "they are taking my civil liberties"!

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2--the irony is lost on you as you don't understand irony;
dissagrement does not equal lack of understanding

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3--there is NO connection between obama acadmic records and romney's situation... this is a false equivalence;
you are correct
folks were claiming Obama violated the law (ineligible to be president)
or his records were false
nobody is saying Romney is doing anything illegal - just that he's taking advantage of tax breaks to prove a point about high income tax rates

so yes... they are different - there are somewhat legitimate reasons to see Obama's records and no real reason to see Romneys

couldn't care less about any of the records BTW - but it's illogical to call birthers nuts but tax return...ers... legit (illogical or hypocritical - no other option)

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4--obama has already supplied his birth records, yet we still don't have one (1) complete tax return from romney;
if you have no problem with Obama waiting 4 years then you shouldn't have any problem with Romeny giving us his returns sometime in 2016...
but again - Obama's was questioning his right to be president... Romney's is simply to make a tax return point - and as YOU pointed out there is a major difference

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5--interacting with me is no substitute for getting a real college education.
sub the words "from a cracker jack box" from "real college" and you might be on to something! (-:
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As Clinton would say... it's the economy stupid.
Nobody cares and it just makes birthers look not so crazy.
Gee golly...who put that in your head?


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Default 08-28-2012, 04:21 PM

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Gee golly...who put that in your head?
another week shot talking about taxes rather than what you had in mind.

instead of talking about ryan we were watching the olympics.

instead of talking about the convention we are watching the hurricane.

obviously, romney wasn't deeply involved in the PR operations of any of the companies he bought and liquidated. the man is obviously the evil spawn of the crystaline entity--NOT a PR professional.

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Default 08-28-2012, 04:43 PM

There' still talking about it. It's not making a dent in Mitt's position, but it's preventing the media from talking about the economy.


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Default We will control your spending, and everything will fall neatly in place! - 08-28-2012, 05:00 PM

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obviously, romney wasn't deeply involved in the PR operations of any of the companies he bought and liquidated. the man is obviously the evil spawn of the crystaline entity--NOT a PR professional.

How awesome would it have been to have Borg Cheney as the Veep!!!

Unfortunately for you and your people, resistence is still futile.


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How awesome would it have been to have Borg Cheney as the Veep!!!

Unfortunately for you and your people, resistence is still futile.
"we will control your spending: - Too funny Homer!!! :D

Do not attempt to adjust your set. We control the horizontal, we control the vertical. We can blur the image or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next 60 minutes we will control all that you see and hear. (How's that from memory? :) )
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Default 08-29-2012, 03:49 PM

Gents....why should Mitt deliver his Tax returns when Obama never delivered a balanced budget?

Food for thought!
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