[PatsFan]

Originally Posted by Homer Falcon

I'm guessing by your handle (and your thoughts) you're just starting jr. high. When you get to high school study hard in your Gov/Civics classes. Yer already way behind.

Just for fun. Name one 'anti-gay' organization CFA gave money to.

If a few democrat mayors hadn't opened their bigoted mouths, this wouldn't even be a story. Now all democrats will pay the price. It's past time to stuff a chicken sandwich in the real haters pie hole.

WinShape would be one, in fact it would probably be the only one you would find directly. ChickFilA gives their monies mainly to this group who in turn donate for them, from what I understand. They in turn donate to groups with names like "Family Values Coalition" or "Family First". Those sound great, (and they do some good things as well) but top priority for these groups is allowing homosexual discrimination to be alive and well.

[Homer Falcon]

Originally Posted by PatsFan

WinShape would be one, in fact it would probably be the only one you would find directly. ChickFilA gives their monies mainly to this group who in turn donate for them, from what I understand. They in turn donate to groups with names like "Family Values Coalition" or "Family First". Those sound great, (and they do some good things as well) but top priority for these groups is allowing homosexual discrimination to be alive and well.

Absolute nonsense. You should be ashamed. Insulting good decent folks with a 'gut feeling' about their priorities makes YOU the bigot.

But, as always, thanks for playing. Grab a chicken sandwich on your way out.

[PatsFan]

I said they do some good things. I'm sure the Westboro Baptist Church does some good things, too. What did I even say that would make me a bigot anyway? These groups have the right to do/say whatever they want. And this is not a gut feeling. Look at the messages, they are clearly anti-gay, and against homosexual marriage and homosexual adoption. Either you dont understand what I am saying or you dont understand the term bigot.

[Homer Falcon]

Originally Posted by PatsFan

I said they do some good things. I'm sure the Westboro Baptist Church does some good things, too. What did I even say that would make me a bigot anyway? These groups have the right to do/say whatever they want. And this is not a gut feeling. Look at the messages, they are clearly anti-gay, and against homosexual marriage and homosexual adoption. Either you dont understand what I am saying or you dont understand the term bigot.

You are seriously tiresome. Think about that "top priority" statement and call me back.

[PatsFan]

Rational thought can be tiresome, I get it.

[Homer Falcon]

Originally Posted by PatsFan

They in turn donate to groups with names like "Family Values Coalition" or "Family First". Those sound great, (and they do some good things as well) but top priority for these groups is allowing homosexual discrimination to be alive and well.

The bold print highlights prejudiced and bigoted thoughts from the woefully ignorant author. He knows nothing about which he speaks, yet proclaims it as fact.

I invite all to review the following websites and determine for yourself each groups priorities.

The Faith and Family Values Coalition

Traditional Values Coalition

Family First Coalition

PatsFan, your chicken sandwich was an olive branch. Now enjoy your crow.

[johnner11]

Originally Posted by m14brian

So what?

Do you call people who contribute to pro-gay organizations heterophobia?

If you don't like CFA, do not patronize that business.

Giving money to groups who chastise homosexual activity = homophobia.

Supporting a movement in order to give a minority group a RIGHT =/= heterophobia.

[NapRover]

Originally Posted by johnner11

Giving money to groups who chastise homosexual activity = homophobia.

Supporting a movement in order to give a minority group a RIGHT =/= heterophobia.

False. It's called freedom.

[Homer Falcon]

Originally Posted by johnner11

Giving money to groups who chastise homosexual activity = homophobia.

Supporting a movement in order to give a minority group a RIGHT =/= heterophobia.

Nonsense.

Abnormal behavior< Minority group

Homophobia = Hyperbole

But, thanks for playing! ;)

[bird]

Originally Posted by Homer Falcon

Abnormal behavior< Minority group

In what way do you consider homosexual behavior to be abnormal?

Admittedly, less than 50% of the population is homosexual. Is that how you define abnormality?

Trading fifth-grade level insults with strangers on an anonymous message board is what I would consider to be abnormal behavior.

[14Red]

Less than 50%, try less than 10%, and maybe even less than that. We have a society today that just sits back and does not stand for things because it ruffles feathers. And let's get the facts straight. The Chick-fil-A owner simply said he stands for family values, and considers a marriage between a man and woman. Nothing about hating homosexuals or anything like that. But you see in today's world, short of applauding gay rights, you get labeled a homophobe. I applaud Chick-fil-A and what they stand for.

[bird]

Originally Posted by 14Red

We have a society today that just sits back and does not stand for things because it ruffles feathers.

Aren't you the same one who recently said that it was great back in the 1950s when nobody talked about homosexuality, and instead just pretended it didn't exist?

Originally Posted by 14Red

But you see in today's world, short of applauding gay rights, you get labeled a homophobe.

I have no idea what you mean by "gay rights". But I do not believe that one class of people should be given rights, protections, or benefits that are not avaiable to others based on exclusionary laws. If you support such policies, you essentially against a group of people.

[DGUtley]

Originally Posted by bird

In what way do you consider homosexual behavior to be abnormal? Admittedly, less than 50% of the population is homosexual. Is that how you define abnormality? Trading fifth-grade level insults with strangers on an anonymous message board is what I would consider to be abnormal behavior.

Unfortunately, trading fifth-grade level insults with strangers on an anonymous message board is swiftly becoming "normal" behavior. I and Jimmacqueen are two of the very few people that post under our real names. I was watching Newsroom on HBO last week and (in the show)they changed their message boards to require verifiable names. The amount of hostility dropped to almost zero. Just saying....

Originally Posted by johnner11

Giving money to groups who chastise homosexual activity = homophobia. Supporting a movement in order to give a minority group a RIGHT =/= heterophobia.

From what I've read, CFA has supported homosexual causes in the past and has given money to homosexual groups across the country. From what I've read, CFA was considered pro-equality prior to Cathy's statements. Would that suddenly change because the President has a personal view - but has taken zero steps whatsoever. Do we really want the thought police.

[Homer Falcon]

Originally Posted by bird

In what way do you consider homosexual behavior to be abnormal?

Admittedly, less than 50% of the population is homosexual. Is that how you define abnormality?

Trading fifth-grade level insults with strangers on an anonymous message board is what I would consider to be abnormal behavior.

So in turn you ask questions easily answered in a 5th grade science class?

The earth's mother planned reproduction as contact between different genders of the same species. Survival of the species is critical to this natural attraction and considered normal behavior. At times, the drive to reproduce becomes so strong that it can cause either gender to behave abnormally and attempt to simulate reproduction through same gender contact. Generally this is seen when the opposite gender is unavailable for various reasons, or when the young of the species 'practice' for the real thing. There is no normal attraction/contact between same gender/species critters. When it happens it is abnormal behavior brought on by extenuating circumstances.

We are lead to believe that a small percentage (1% or less) of the human animal got their wires crossed. I won't argue this point. However, I will argue that these cases are outside the norm, and when these humans act on their unnatural urges, they are participating in abnormal behavior.

Hope that helps.

[sleeper]

Homosexuality is abnormal the same way a kid born with CP is abnormal. Does this mean we should restrict the rights of the CP patient as well because they were born with an abnormal condition?

[NapRover]

A kid born with CP doesn't want to sodomize other people. The extremely thin wall of the rectum, along with its unsanitary contents, presents risks that endanger the lives of the participants and their subsequent "partners". The cultural damage that this, and promiscuity in general, have caused this world is incalculable.

While the normality of the attraction to others of the same sex might be debatable-sodomy is absolutely abnormal-and has grave consequences to all of us.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/art...ho0075.html#09

What irony that we should ban smoking, fats, drugs, sugary drinks, etc. and encourage sodomy, which is more dangerous than all of the above!

[sleeper]

Gotcha, so heterosexual couples never engage in anal sex. What rock do you live under?

[NapRover]

Of course they do, how do you think A-holes are created? I wasn't aware of any pandemics that originated with hetero sex-which one did I miss?

[bird]

Originally Posted by Homer Falcon

So in turn you ask questions easily answered in a 5th grade science class?

The earth's mother planned reproduction as contact between different genders of the same species. Survival of the species is critical to this natural attraction and considered normal behavior. At times, the drive to reproduce becomes so strong that it can cause either gender to behave abnormally and attempt to simulate reproduction through same gender contact. Generally this is seen when the opposite gender is unavailable for various reasons, or when the young of the species 'practice' for the real thing. There is no normal attraction/contact between same gender/species critters. When it happens it is abnormal behavior brought on by extenuating circumstances.

We are lead to believe that a small percentage (1% or less) of the human animal got their wires crossed. I won't argue this point. However, I will argue that these cases are outside the norm, and when these humans act on their unnatural urges, they are participating in abnormal behavior.

Hope that helps.

Let's just say that everything you've typed here is accurate. If people want to engage in this type of abnormal behavior and then legally recognize a same-sex relationship in the same way that opposite-sex couples can, and therefore receive the same 1,138 legal benefits and protections that come with that legal recognition, there should be no reason for them not to.

There are all sorts of behaviors that could be labelled abnormal. Anal or oral sex between heterosexual couples could be, because it has nothing to do with reproduction. Good seed is throwing away.

Most any show on TLC shows people with what I consider to be abnormal behavior (though it's not necessarily associated with reproduction).

This abnormal homosexual behavior is in fact biologically normal to probably about 10% of the population. It has no victims and does not infringe upon anyone else. If people want to consider it to be abnormal that's fine. But it should not result in a lessening of benefits and protections legally available.

[bird]

Originally Posted by NapRover

Of course they do, how do you think A-holes are created? I wasn't aware of any pandemics that originated with hetero sex-which one did I miss?

Not germane to this discussion.

And there are probably more heterosexuals that have engaged in these unhealthy sexual acts than there are homosexuals on the planet.