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The Mid-State League Cardinal should be pretty interesting this year. I think with Fisher Catholic having most of the players back they will be the front runner. Berne Union has a good Junior and Sophomore class and should compete with FC & FCA for the title. Millersport and Grove City Christian will fight for the middle of the pack and Harvest Prep, if they have a team, is an unknown. Looking forward to seeing how this Division shakes out with all the changes in the league.
Harvest Prep has a 22 game varsity schedule for their girls this season. Their site says a coach hasn't been announced yet. My best guess is they will need to scrape up a team by potentially eliminating winter cheerleading.
HP has a varsity girls' coach...not sure yet if they're going to have a team. Eliminating winter cheerleading would not ensure that HP would have a team. The volleyball players that also cheer have no interest in playing basketball.
They tried...not sure why they can't get girls to play. Rumor has it that Gahanna Christian doesn't have a girls team either. Perhaps the HP girls and GCA girls can get together to practice to keep their skills up...too bad they can't play games together beyond AAU.
Word on the street is that both of Fisher's post players from last year aren't coming out for their senior year. That's going to hurt not having post player 1's height and rebounding ability and post player 2's intensity on the court. Athletically Fisher has the advantage and they're going to be more athletic than many central district teams. Coaching is what takes them from a first/second round finish to the district finals.
Heard Fisher lost to Fairfield U in a scrimmage.
Fisher's schedule - glad to see they're finally playing Newark Catholic after a couple year absence. Would like to see Shekinah, Worthington Christian, even Academy or LU on there - better to be prepared for the tourney than racking up the W total against teams that have no business being on the same court as you. Too proud of a program to be playing half of the schools they're playing now. W's and L's don't matter so much if you ask me because this league is a wash competitively speaking. When was the last time Fisher won districts? Was it '07 with Griffin and Lena Barrows (and I think the Kelley girl)? Whatever year it was, it was Petros' last year and they played Waterford at Pick North.
Heard that Berne Union scrimmaged Centerburg and Grandview Heights. I was told Berne Union started slow but beat both Centerburg and Grandview 2 out of 3 quarters each and overall by score. My source also said Centerburg has some pretty good size and Berne Union is small but pretty quick. The Cardinal should be pretty interesting. None of the teams in the division have much size this year. Could produce some pretty good matchups.
Hhmmmm. I talked to a FU person about how they are doing and they expressed disappointment about how they did against FC in their scrimmage. That they each won some quarters but FU expected to do better against them.....
Talking to people at LU, I'm pretty sure that they do play Fisher. It may not be on the schedule for whatever reason. Also, I'm not sure what playing Academy would do for Fisher. They would not be a step up in competition. Danville should be a good game for them.
I'm going to try to pose this topic without the (coach) flaming that happened in the stir earlier, but it's a worthwhile topic for discussion. I talked to my friend who confirmed the two centers aren't playing this year. Three juniors aren't playing; as a matter of fact, the four tallest players from last year's varsity aren't going to be playing this year in their junior or senior years.
Hopefully the Irish can find a way to win the league and get to district finals (and maybe further) with the talent they're losing.
From my understanding, Klamar, Krauss, Novena and Pitts (but she transferred for non-athletic reasons) are juniors who are not coming out this year. "The only one from that class to see any varsity time at all last year was the Hill girl" the Wilt girl also played a good number of minutes last year. I actually don't recall saying David Dennis did nothing wrong but he's a good guy and coach, but hey, don't let facts get in the way of making a point, right?
If you have a problem with me, let's talk. This is certainly not a place to discuss it. I enjoy small school sports and I'm sorry if you're so mortified of it. Multiple people have talked to me saying they appreciate the positive things I do say about their kids and programs.
Ok before FCfan comes on here and feels the need to defend himself, lets broaden this to a productive discussion..... Because losing players happens at EVERY school, in EVERY sport. And to single this team out.... Yes it does feel like a personal agenda. And singling out HS players on a message board is not cool in my opinion. But I also see FCFan posting very supportive thoughts about his school- so lets turn this into something positive. BuckeyeDan pointed out a scenario in his response to the practice hours thread about losing girls over the years in a basketball program. It does seem to be a phenomenon now adays. Is it the availability of club sports? I think that apart of it. I also think kids today are different.....for good or bad- being a bench player or not "feeling the love" lol from coaches..... Is this the monster created by the "everyone gets a trophy" idea?? I don't know but these issues seem like a more productive and interesting discussion for everyone.
Playfair - I do not think this is the monster created by an "everyone wins" society, but it could be. My position for posting the fact there are players not deciding to come out for their final year for FC was out of curiosity, not an ulterior motive. I am positing the question, "what is happening?" at FC? I don't think FC ever saw as many players not come back during Petros or Faulkner era. I know they're all fall athletes, but is there a reason they don't want to play?
FCFan- what I am saying is this happens everywhere.
Does not indicate anything about this program....and asking this in regards to any specific school team doesn't get you anything but
rumors-never helpful. And as I said before, calling out specific HS players is
not anything I can support. .....
I think most high school coaches should be praised for the time they put in for very little pay. I choose not to try to criticize their strategies and such because I don't know what's being taught and emphasized. You may choose to do the opposite; that's your prerogative. I just think it gets a bit old.
Actually, I agree that people like me shouldn't be so quick to criticize when the coaches get very small salaries (the school doesn't have enough money to pay well), because when prospective candidates do find out how much money they stand to gain by taking a job at a small place, some do have to back out because financially it serves no benefit. Most to many coaches do not in fact take the job for the money, but out of the passion for the game. However, I do not think reasonably and constructively (except that might be a loose way to put it since I doubt very many coaches look to JJHuddle for coaching tips from losers like me) criticizing a coach's decision should be out of bounds completely. Of course, there's a fine line between respectfulness and perceived brazenness and I likely do cross that (don't we all at some point or another? Perhaps not to the extend of posting on here, but the idea stands).
Regarding Bills; let's agree to disagree on this board for that, I'll send you a PM if you want to discuss that.
Playfair - we all want to see our schools and the kids that have grown up in them do very well, academically and athletically. We also want to see the coaches we hire give our boys and girls the best chance to win. I'm not going to debate whether or not Matt Little does give Fisher the best chance to win, because in a bigger picture, not only is it not fair to him, but it's not appropriate to discuss on here (actually, if you ask me, the experience he does have from coaching different groups of girls in different parts of Ohio tells me he can gel with new faces wherever he ends up, and I think the addition of his new assistant coach to the staff this year can help the team since this new assistant coach has experience with the younger players from being their coach in jr high). I definitely do not want to appear as if I'm singling the kids out for not coming out; I can certainly see how that appears to be the case and I do regret any poor choice of words because the kids do deserve better. I know those girls are not "quitters", the word "quit" is not even in their vocabulary as they, along with their classmates who decided to play this year, are one of the hardest-working groups of players I have seen, and it is my pleasure to have watched this class play as they have grown up and grown together. Merely, I bring up to the original query with this idea: does the program take a huge hit competitively and as a group when these many players decide to leave (for whatever reason)?. One thing I have always been proud of in FC athletics was how every kid made a difference, maybe they weren't the kids with 200+ yards rushing a game or the kid throwing up double-doubles but FC's strength was in numbers and hard work. It reminds me of Amanda-Clearcreek football in the early 2000's. I also ask, is the program going to be as strong as it would've been if everyone was still playing?
Fc fan- thanks for the response... That was fair and balanced. I don't know much about fisher this year, have no input on if the lost players will hurt them, but I do wish your lady Irish a great season! I also think losing players is a universal issue in girls sports. I'm an empty nester now but had kids playing sports in local schools and on club teams. I knew girls that played AAU but wouldn't play for their school for many varied reasons. So I am interested in this as an overall issue in HS sports.