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jajfitz
12-25-2011, 04:38 AM
Who is coming and going in the NOL, NCC, MOAC, the Northern 10, MAL, etc.

Lancer '65
12-25-2011, 06:54 AM
Which week are you referring to?

snowmachine
12-25-2011, 12:32 PM
Is Upper Sandusky taking the MOAC offer?

Cat500
12-25-2011, 06:42 PM
Is Upper Sandusky taking the MOAC offer?

That is my understanding.

Village Idiot
12-26-2011, 09:28 AM
Is anyone expecting a flurry of activity this week in the northwest-to-northcentral Ohio schools to meet calendar-year-end deadlines for notifications?

Or, does it feel like that it has calmed down to the point that everyone feels confident enough as to what eventually is going to happen, that all of the parties can gradually go through the motions and procedures over the next year?

Hank_Hill
12-26-2011, 01:01 PM
Complete flurry....bunch of meetings starting Jan.8th

Captain Tony
12-26-2011, 01:16 PM
^^^^ VI- No meetings this week as all those administrators are off for the holidays and will not think about anything until schools start up next week.

Hank_Hill
12-26-2011, 06:17 PM
That's good stuff and the truth...but if they were smart they would all be on top of things...some of these moves could make budgets change in a big way.

strykerblue
12-27-2011, 01:34 PM
MAL meeting Jan 10th I think....they are hoping to have some interested schools to talk about to fill their three vacancies. I also heard last week that Northern 10 is "hoping" to begin play in 2013-14 school year as long as the leagues they are exiting allow them to do so and have replacements ready. Right now it is worded Northern 10 will begin play no later than 2014-15 school year. Cannot blame them for not wanting to play 2 1/2 years in a league they are leaving I guess.

Hank_Hill
12-27-2011, 02:18 PM
I think it's pretty ugly amongst current NCC schools right now....all parting ways sooner rather than later might be best.

strykerblue
12-27-2011, 02:54 PM
Upper seems to have found a home in MOAC....hearing Ontario and Galion looking at OCC...not sure where Lucas goes? If MAL finds some suitable replacements then maybe next year is the last for the old leagues as they are and all can start anew in August 2013.

Hank_Hill
12-27-2011, 03:55 PM
I think the MAL finding three teams is going to be a struggle....talked to some interesting sources over the weekend. They weren't sure what to expect.

strykerblue
12-28-2011, 10:07 AM
I know SMCC is staying in SBC...Gburg is happy in TAAC for now it seems....Elmwood and Woodmore are possibilities but not sure things. I even heard MAL may see if Arcadia is ready to leave the BVC. Norwalk St Paul and Monroeville mentioned too but nothing firm there. I agree, who knows what we hear after meetings Jan 10th.

Hank_Hill
12-28-2011, 04:16 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if some of the current members left in the MAL didn't stay together.....you never know what certain members of certain schools have going through their minds. Just sayin.

strykerblue
12-31-2011, 12:49 PM
Heard from a couple different people now that Ontario, Galion and Marion Harding are talking to NOL about becoming their 8-9-10th members and forming a north-south setup where Willard,Shelby and the 3 newcomers would be in South and Columbian,Norwalk,Bellevue,Sandusky and Vermilion in North. Not perfect as Harding is bigger but not a lot of options for Harding, Galion and Ontario it seems...NOL or OCC. Could work I guess.

Hank_Hill
01-01-2012, 08:05 AM
I have heard this as well...interesting that Willard would now approve of Marion Harding.

paladin
01-02-2012, 12:52 AM
Is this the current break down?

MOAC = Upper Sandusky, River Valley, Elgin, Pleasant, Buckeye Valley, North Union, Jonathon Alder and Fairbanks.

A separate new Knox & Morrow County League = Highland, Mt. Gilead, Cardington, Northmor, Centerburg, Fredericktown, East Know and Danville?

paladin
01-02-2012, 01:02 AM
Heard from a couple different people now that Ontario, Galion and Marion Harding are talking to NOL about becoming their 8-9-10th members and forming a north-south setup where Willard,Shelby and the 3 newcomers would be in South and Columbian,Norwalk,Bellevue,Sandusky and Vermilion in North. Not perfect as Harding is bigger but not a lot of options for Harding, Galion and Ontario it seems...NOL or OCC. Could work I guess.

If Galion and Ontario were wanted by the OCC for a 10 school league the Divisions would be East and West

East = Wooster, Orrville, West Holmes, Ashland, Madison

West = Galion, Ontario, Lexington, Clear Fork, Mansfield Senior

NOL South = Harding, Galion, Ontario, Shelby, Willard

Which looks best for Galion and Ontario?

Hank_Hill
01-02-2012, 08:24 AM
Is this the current break down?

MOAC = Upper Sandusky, River Valley, Elgin, Pleasant, Buckeye Valley, North Union, Jonathon Alder and Fairbanks.

A separate new Knox & Morrow County League = Highland, Mt. Gilead, Cardington, Northmor, Centerburg, Fredericktown, East Know and Danville?

If the MOAC can't work things out, and I'm not sure they can, this will be the setup. The Knox/Morrow deal makes sense and saves Danville and East Knox.

It will be interesting to see how the "MOAC" side works out and how long it sticks together.

DaPlane
01-02-2012, 01:47 PM
If Galion and Ontario were wanted by the OCC for a 10 school league the Divisions would be East and West

East = Wooster, Orrville, West Holmes, Ashland, Madison

West = Galion, Ontario, Lexington, Clear Fork, Mansfield Senior

NOL South = Harding, Galion, Ontario, Shelby, Willard

Which looks best for Galion and Ontario?


IMO the OCC West.

greenbomber17
01-02-2012, 09:32 PM
If that ends up being the new MOAC it will never happen. Too much size variation IMO

Hank_Hill
01-03-2012, 08:08 AM
If that ends up being the new MOAC it will never happen. Too much size variation IMO

It's happened already, it's just a matter of whether or not the Knox/Morrow County schools stay part of it. As I mentioned on another thread, Fairbanks was never a good fit. Now you add Upper Sandusky to the mix and it's well over an hour drive to JA and Fairbanks.

zigzagzoom
01-03-2012, 08:19 AM
If the MOAC can't work things out, and I'm not sure they can, this will be the setup. The Knox/Morrow deal makes sense and saves Danville and East Knox.

It will be interesting to see how the "MOAC" side works out and how long it sticks together.

The Knox/Morrow League would be a nice fit. I think the addition of Jonathan Alder and Fairbanks doomed the league. Upper Sandusky isn't a bad addition, easy to get to and comparable in size, but JA? What were they thinking?

Hank_Hill
01-03-2012, 09:37 AM
I don't understand what the fuss about JA is. They are a upper-echelon program in just about everything right now and bring instant credibility to the MOAC, who outside Pleasant, have very little. Fairbanks was the head scratcher. Upper Sandusky is a good choice, but I'm not sure I see it being a long term fit.

That's the problem with a lot of the new league alignments - few may be long term. I could well see Fairbanks flee to the OHC should they get invited this year.

paladin
01-03-2012, 12:53 PM
If that ends up being the new MOAC it will never happen. Too much size variation IMO

Size does matter.

Add Galion and Ontario to make 10 schools. Then the MOAC would be a 10 school league again, this time with a large school and a small school Division.

Buckeye Valley 303, River Valley 254, Johnathon Alder 252, Upper Sandusky 216, Gakion 215

Ontario 201, North Union 194, Pleasant 166, Elgin 152, Fairbanks 141

Hank_Hill
01-03-2012, 01:44 PM
Those 1:45 trips from Fairbanks to Ontario would be fun....Let's face it, in the small school scenerio Ontario would have absolutely no history or rivalry with any of those schools. None of those schools are even within 45 minutes of Ontario.

Galion to JA is a haul as well. I just don't see how Ontario or Galion fit. Upper is a push as it is.

zigzagzoom
01-03-2012, 03:16 PM
JA doesn't border anyone in the district, at least Fairbanks is close to North Union & Buckeye Valley. They are a class act but the logistics just don't work. I will be surprised to see JA stay in the MOAC other than for short term. It's a long haul from River Valley to JA.

Hank_Hill
01-03-2012, 05:47 PM
JA borders Fairbanks and is just outside North Union and Buckeye Valley, both current MOAC members. The tricky part is JA's district goes all the way into London on the Madison Co. side. Fairbanks is a huge district mileage wise. For some JA parents the trip to Upper will be pushing 1:45

lmavcch3
01-03-2012, 10:32 PM
Those long drives for middle school sports would be brutal.

Captain Tony
01-04-2012, 01:20 AM
Those 1:45 trips from Fairbanks to Ontario would be fun....Let's face it, in the small school scenerio Ontario would have absolutely no history or rivalry with any of those schools. None of those schools are even within 45 minutes of Ontario.

Galion to JA is a haul as well. I just don't see how Ontario or Galion fit. Upper is a push as it is.

Hank- I'm in total agreement with you on this. Pleasant to Ontario is the closest and is a 1 hour drive in a car. Who knows how long in a bus.

osu_silveraider
01-08-2012, 10:20 AM
Any new news on the MOAC...By the way, where did that thread go?

paladin
01-18-2012, 03:09 PM
Galion applied to the MOAC on 1/12.

superdav62
01-19-2012, 09:29 AM
Galion applied to the MOAC on 1/12.

So much for the Three team solidarity pact...

wallpass
01-30-2012, 12:56 PM
100% Solid Information
Upper Sandusky has been asked to replace Ridgedale and (assuming they accept) will be in the MOAC West with River Valley, Pleasant, North Union, Buckeye Valley, Fairbanks and Jonathon Alder. Elgin will be in the East with Highland, Cardington, Mt. Gilead, Northmor, Fredericktown and Centerburg.

This makes two 7 team divisions and wouldn't work in football as the East teams do not want to crossover for games during their conference bye week (7 teams mean you have 3 games and a bye each week which could be solved by playing the bye week team in the other division but they won't do it). Therefore, 2 more teams are being invited to the league....one team per division. Not sure if I am allowed to say who they are yet so I am editing them out for now but I will say one is northeast of Marion and the other is east of I-71.

Looks like the MOAC will be a 16 team conference pretty quickly.

Lancer '65
01-30-2012, 01:06 PM
The Northern Buckeye Conference will remain in tact for next year as the league issued a joint statement a day or so ago stating that the eight schools are happy with the league and will be moving forward with all members remaining in the league. There had been some jj conjecture about this team and that team leaving but as it turns out, evidently those rumors were just that and no changes will impact the league for 2012-2013.

blitzman
01-31-2012, 03:01 AM
Elgin in the East?.... that wont go over well... some folks from Elgin didnt want JA in cause of travel. See how well this works out...

Hank_Hill
01-31-2012, 08:01 AM
100% Solid Information
Upper Sandusky has been asked to replace Ridgedale and (assuming they accept) will be in the MOAC West with River Valley, Pleasant, North Union, Buckeye Valley, Fairbanks and Jonathon Alder. Elgin will be in the East with Highland, Cardington, Mt. Gilead, Northmor, Fredericktown and Centerburg.

This makes two 7 team divisions and wouldn't work in football as the East teams do not want to crossover for games during their conference bye week (7 teams mean you have 3 games and a bye each week which could be solved by playing the bye week team in the other division but they won't do it). Therefore, 2 more teams are being invited to the league....one team per division. Not sure if I am allowed to say who they are yet so I am editing them out for now but I will say one is northeast of Marion and the other is east of I-71.

Looks like the MOAC will be a 16 team conference pretty quickly.

Galion and East Knox would fit those descriptions. But what if the Richland County thing comes to frutation? It's bigger schools than Galion, but it's teams they already play and all are within 25 miles. Galion to Fairbanks and JA is an absolute haul and you have zero history with those two schools.

If East Knox goes, it's a blow to Danville. East Knox would have to accept though as they are left with nothing else.

wallpass
01-31-2012, 08:21 AM
It is Elgin that wants the East division. As far as travel goes it makes a lot more sense for them to be in the West but they don't feel like they will be able to compete in that division as their district continues to shrink in student numbers.

Captain Tony
01-31-2012, 11:13 PM
^^^ Wallpass is absolutely right about Elgin wanting to be in the small division plus Highland. That is why they tried to get in the Northern 10 league with Ridgedale.

paladin
02-01-2012, 11:17 PM
100% Solid Information
Upper Sandusky has been asked to replace Ridgedale and (assuming they accept) will be in the MOAC West with River Valley, Pleasant, North Union, Buckeye Valley, Fairbanks and Jonathon Alder. Elgin will be in the East with Highland, Cardington, Mt. Gilead, Northmor, Fredericktown and Centerburg.

This makes two 7 team divisions and wouldn't work in football as the East teams do not want to crossover for games during their conference bye week (7 teams mean you have 3 games and a bye each week which could be solved by playing the bye week team in the other division but they won't do it). Therefore, 2 more teams are being invited to the league....one team per division. Not sure if I am allowed to say who they are yet so I am editing them out for now but I will say one is northeast of Marion and the other is east of I-71.

Looks like the MOAC will be a 16 team conference pretty quickly.

Then why not two 8 team leagues?

Captain Tony
02-02-2012, 12:22 PM
The MOAC is now pursuing Galion for the large division and East Knox for the small division plus Highland for two 8 team divisions.

lmavcch3
02-02-2012, 09:56 PM
Heard East Knox has been asked and accepted. Still crossing t's and dotting i's.

blitzman
02-03-2012, 02:32 AM
So if it is Galion & E. Knox? is Elgin still goin to be in the East division?..

I still believe when Elgin's new HS gets built, the #'s will go up after 3-5 years..

blitzman
02-03-2012, 02:34 AM
Then why not two 8 team leagues?

That would be to easy.. :P

Hank_Hill
02-03-2012, 08:24 AM
It's a no-brainer for East Knox. It's that or life as an independent.

wallpass
02-03-2012, 08:49 AM
blitzman

I know this may seem hard to believe but yes Elgin will still be in the East. They have said they will leave the league if they are stuck in the West division. They want no part of it. Elgin and Highland have been the two major thorns in this whole process of rebuilding/expanding the league but it looks like everyone is finally getting things worked out.

Hank_Hill
02-03-2012, 11:38 AM
Marion Harding has to be on hands and knees praying the Richland County area schools get together as talked about.

Captain Tony
02-04-2012, 12:37 AM
^^^ Hank, when Marion was in the OHC with most of those Richland County schools they dis-banded just to get rid of Marion and Vermillion.

Captain Tony
02-04-2012, 12:41 AM
blitzman

I know this may seem hard to believe but yes Elgin will still be in the East. They have said they will leave the league if they are stuck in the West division. They want no part of it. Elgin and Highland have been the two major thorns in this whole process of rebuilding/expanding the league but it looks like everyone is finally getting things worked out.
I agree Highland and Elgin did all the whining but where would Elgin have gone to? They tried to get in the NCC before that blew up and the Northern 10 didn't want them. It would of been interesting if the league would of called their bluff to see where they would of tried to go to next.

timbolt
02-04-2012, 02:10 PM
I don't know for sure but I think for the other OHC schools it was more that they wanted Wooster than to get ride of Marion Harding. Vermilion was never a good fit for these schools and I still can't figure out why they accepted them into the league. They were not even close to any of the other schools.

Hank_Hill
02-04-2012, 04:05 PM
^^^ Hank, when Marion was in the OHC with most of those Richland County schools they dis-banded just to get rid of Marion and Vermillion.

I said that because Harding would find a home in the MOAC if Galion goes to the Richland County setup

Captain Tony
02-05-2012, 12:02 AM
^^^^ Hank= That could certainly be a possibilty. River Valley seems to be the big thorn in Marion's side as far as getting an invitation. But, RV has also scheduled to play them next year in both football and boys basketball. Strange.

Captain Tony
02-05-2012, 12:03 AM
I don't know for sure but I think for the other OHC schools it was more that they wanted Wooster than to get ride of Marion Harding. Vermilion was never a good fit for these schools and I still can't figure out why they accepted them into the league. They were not even close to any of the other schools.

Tim= If that is the case then why didn't Harding get an invitation to the OCC?

blitzman
02-06-2012, 03:07 AM
blitzman

I know this may seem hard to believe but yes Elgin will still be in the East. They have said they will leave the league if they are stuck in the West division. They want no part of it. Elgin and Highland have been the two major thorns in this whole process of rebuilding/expanding the league but it looks like everyone is finally getting things worked out.

Thanks wallpass... I didnt know Elgin was having issues about this.. I knew they were'nt to thrilled about JA & they wanted in the Northern 10. If the school wants to pay the travel cost to play in the east division, oh well. Let them have it then. Kinda sad the pride of that school (Elgin) has went down the drain in the last 10 years..

tonto
02-09-2012, 09:05 PM
I realize most of the posts on this thread probably relate only to football programs but I'm hoping the decision makers are looking at all sports. Elgin's girls vball and bball teams are as good as there is in the current MOAC. MG's girls softball as well as golf and cross country squads are at the top of the league year in an out as well. I love high school football but there are other things I hope these decision makers consider. Truthfully, I'm more proud that my grandchildren attend one of 3 excellent rated school districts in the current conference versus say the current success of the boys bball team. But that's just me perhaps.

DaPlane
02-10-2012, 05:36 AM
According to Galion Live, Galion is headed to the MOAC.

wallpass
02-10-2012, 08:23 AM
Here is a link to that Galion Live article - http://galionlive.com/2012/02/09/looks-like-galion-will-be-moac-bound/

nknight92
02-10-2012, 09:29 AM
Interesting article, any news about Loudenville, Danville and Lucas?

Hank_Hill
02-10-2012, 10:01 AM
Interesting article, any news about Loudenville, Danville and Lucas?

I think they are pretty much left hanging.


Those trips to JA and Fairbanks will be a bunch of fun for both sides. Every bit of 65 miles to each from/to Galion.

BigTenBuckeye
02-10-2012, 11:18 AM
I think they are pretty much left hanging.

Which is a doggone shame, because they'd fit in well with the non-Huron County schools of the Firelands Conference, but I feel like it'd be asking a lot travel-wise to have the likes of Monroeville, St. Paul, and Western Reserve head down their way. If the ECOL winds up losing Dover, New Philadelphia and Claymont to Orrville's setup, there's a potential option for them.

Hank_Hill
02-10-2012, 11:33 AM
The Firelands Conf. seems pretty married. I think Western Reserve maybe sniffed around a bit, but I don't think anythings become of it.

BigTenBuckeye
02-10-2012, 12:09 PM
That's exactly what an AD told me, they're quite content with their setup. I figured with Lucas and Loudonville being common non-league matchups for some FC schools, that would make them sound appealing, but their plight isn't a major concern for area leagues.

wallpass
02-24-2012, 09:46 AM
The latest on the MOAC expansion to 16 teams including Galion and East Knox - http://www.marionstar.com/article/20120223/SPORTS/120223006/MOAC-expand-16-teams

wallpass
02-24-2012, 09:51 AM
I guess the question now is the 2013-14 season for football: are there going to be crossover games that season since there are going to be 7 teams in each division that year? If not, it could be ugly trying to get games during your bye week late in the season.

paladin
02-24-2012, 04:46 PM
Upper, Galion and East Knox won't join the MOAC until the 2014-2015 school year. Ridgedale won't leave until the same school year, as the N10 won't begin play until that year. JA is currently an independent they would like to join ASAP. Not sure when Fairbank's, Centerburg and Fredericktown can start play.

wallpass
02-24-2012, 05:46 PM
Paladin

According to the story in the Marion Star "For the 2013-14 school year, Buckeye Valley, Elgin, Fairbanks, Jonathan Alder, North Union, Pleasant and River Valley will make up the Red Division and the Blue Division will consist of Cardington, Mount Gilead, Centerburg, Fredericktown, Northmor, Highland and Ridgedale." So that is why I asked the question. That one season with 14 teams will be a nightmare if they don't allow crossover games between the Red and Blue divisions. I would think they have to that year.

nknight92
02-25-2012, 08:59 AM
Fairest way is match by the largest in each division if you have cross over. Based on current enrollment numbers.
Buckeye Valley 303 v Highland 234
River Valley 259 v. Mount Gilead 147
Jonathan Alder 252 v Centerburg 146
North Union 194 v. Fredricktown 144
Pleasant 166 v. Cardington 143
Elgin 152 v. Northmor 129
Farbanks 141 v. Ridgedale 84

nknight92
02-25-2012, 11:11 AM
if Riverdale or carey gets in the BVC, Elgin will say farewell to the MOAC.
I may begin to start to think that Some people in the MOAC may have known about the N10 besides Ridgedale and Elgin, With a Invite to East knox,
I would say, if Elgin leave Danville gets the nod, And the Morrow /Knox Conference comes to fruition.

BigTenBuckeye
02-26-2012, 10:18 PM
Latest update is that Lucas will leave the NCC a year earlier than everyone else:

(from the Senior Reports) updated 2-26-12

Lucas announces intent to leave NCC A Year Early

The ever-changing conference alignments saw more action Thursday and Friday with the North Central Conference and the Mid Ohio Athletic Conference seeing changes. In an email to NCC Commissioner Mark Hayman and the other league principals, Lucas High School Principal and Athletic Director Eric Teague said the Cubs intended leave the conference a year earlier

No official press statement yet but I have to imagine it's to help them find a potential league sooner.

blitzman
02-26-2012, 11:31 PM
I think I read someting awhile back that the Northern10 would like to start up 2013-2014 season if all teams can get released from thier conf.. (ridgdale-MOAC, Mohawk & SE -MAL). SO if Upper Sand. & Galion can get a home in the MOAC & East Knox by then, the Northern10 it could start 2013
-2014.. But who knows?..lol Then if Carey & Riverdale bolt to the BVC & Elgin jumps to the Northern 10.... awwwwwww, my head is starting to hurt..lol

osu_silveraider
02-27-2012, 07:42 AM
Fairest way is match by the largest in each division if you have cross over. Based on current enrollment numbers.
Buckeye Valley 303 v Highland 234
River Valley 259 v. Mount Gilead 147
Jonathan Alder 252 v Centerburg 146
North Union 194 v. Fredricktown 144
Pleasant 166 v. Cardington 143
Elgin 152 v. Northmor 129
Farbanks 141 v. Ridgedale 84

but Highland has already secured Buckeye Valley and River Valley to their "non league" schedule for that season. I also heard they have locked in a two year agreement with Mt. Vernon for a non league. The last non-league is up in the air. I have heard anyone from Clear Fork, Coshocton, Warsaw River View and Ontario. All this is just what I have heard but the first three teams (River and Buckeye Valley, Mt. Vernon) seem to be consistent with every person I talk to.

nknight92
02-28-2012, 11:43 AM
I doubt that the forced cross over will happen because like highland most of the other teams will have already put in place a crossover game or two

nknight92
02-28-2012, 11:45 AM
Latest update is that Lucas will leave the NCC a year earlier than everyone else:

(No official press statement yet but I have to imagine it's to help them find a potential league sooner.

I would assume they have a plan already, otherwise why would they break away early as a Independent ?

paladin
02-29-2012, 11:19 PM
The agreement was made that the NCC would not break up until the 2014-2015 school year unless all schools agreed on an earlier date. Due to what would happen in football if Lucas or any school leaves early. That means 7 schools must find one new game for weeks 4 through 10, for one year only, on short notice. Almost an impossibility.

blitzman
03-01-2012, 02:48 AM
Better start lookn now then for that game..lol

Hank_Hill
03-01-2012, 12:26 PM
The agreement was made that the NCC would not break up until the 2014-2015 school year unless all schools agreed on an earlier date. Due to what would happen in football if Lucas or any school leaves early. That means 7 schools must find one new game for weeks 4 through 10, for one year only, on short notice. Almost an impossibility.

Oh those poor teams....Galion and Upper Sandusky had to go find a new LEAGUE while a host of others are left without a league.

strykerblue
03-01-2012, 02:55 PM
Hank, here anything lately on BVC expansion talk? I did hear that SMCC is supposed to tell SBC if they are leaving on March 8th. We'll see if they are going MAL or Firelands or staying put.

superdav62
03-01-2012, 06:33 PM
Looks like Ontario is headed to NOL.

DaPlane
03-01-2012, 06:55 PM
If true, welcome to the NOL Ontario.

superdav62
03-01-2012, 07:42 PM
Asked for a 2013 release from NCC...it was granted. Just has to go through board.

DaPlane
03-01-2012, 09:25 PM
Ok, thanks for the update. Congratulations to the Shelby Whippets on their new bff the Ontario Warriors. This will make for a nice rivalry between those two neighbors.

Do you know if the NCC also granted Lucas on their request?

superdav62
03-02-2012, 06:08 AM
Haven't heard anything official, but I can't believe Lucas would be denied considering everything that has happened.

BigTenBuckeye
03-02-2012, 01:38 PM
Heard today that Vermilion's starting to reconsider their NOL membership for the next school year, as well as Ontario being on board to join.

DaPlane
03-02-2012, 08:46 PM
From what I know, Vermilion is going elsewhere. Ontario is coming to the NOL.

BigTenBuckeye
03-08-2012, 08:47 PM
St. Mary CC is going to stay in the SBC.

http://www.sanduskycentralcatholic.com/apps/news/show_news.jsp?REC_ID=236176&id=0

Not sure which two schools withdrew their MAL interest, but that league's uncertainty was understandably too much to worry about.

paladin
03-09-2012, 12:37 AM
I would assume they have a plan already, otherwise why would they break away early as a Independent ?

Supposedly - Lucas, Loudonville, Danville, Mansfield St. Peters, Mansfield Christian and looking for other interested "small" schools, most probably private schools. Lucas, Loudonville and Danville will play independent football schedules.

BigTenBuckeye
03-09-2012, 11:55 PM
Supposedly - Lucas, Loudonville, Danville, Mansfield St. Peters, Mansfield Christian and looking for other interested "small" schools, most probably private schools. Lucas, Loudonville and Danville will play independent football schedules.

http://www.mountvernonnews.com/Sports/12/03/09/mid-buckeye-conference-may-not-be-dead-after-all

Bingo

paladin
03-10-2012, 12:30 AM
The latest is that Crestline is interested in joining this league. They are one of the 6 schools originally leaving the NCC to form a new league called The Northern 10. Which is starting to crumble already, 2 years before they were to begin play.

Riverdale, another NCC school leaving for the N10 is now being courted by the BVC, their all time #1 choice for a league.

Carey, from the MAL, another new N10 member has also been approached by the BVC and are considering.

If Riverdale and Carey join the BVC, Seneca East and Mohawk might reconsider and go back to the MAL.

The new N10, before playing their first game, could become the N5.

the_show
03-10-2012, 12:59 AM
Carey has already said no to the BVC.

DaPlane
03-14-2012, 09:40 AM
Ontario has accepted their invitation to join the NOL.

nknight92
03-31-2012, 01:57 PM
I am confused as to what the moac split is, they say east west but you have elgin and galion mixed up for that, and big small, fairbanks and highland. i would like them to split it one way or another. i have the enrollment numbers on another computer, but in short
elgin Boys Class A (152)Girls Class A (157)
Galion Boys Class AAA (215) GirlsClass AAA (216)
Highland Boys Class AA (234) Girls Class AA (213)

So MOAC What are you doing, geographically Galion fits with the East split, it is smaller than/ same size as highland. it is only 60 students more than elgin, which seems like alot, but the reason for expansion was reduced travel. so please reevaluate. Either split by size or location!!!

nknight92
03-31-2012, 08:14 PM
Boys
Buckeye Valley Boys Class AA (303)
Rivervalley Boys Class AA (259)
Jonathan Alder Boys Class AA (252)
Highland Boys Class AA (234)
Upper Sandusky Boys Class AAA (216)
Galion Boys Class AAA (215)
North Union Boys Class AA (194)
Pleasant Boys Class A (166)
East Knox Boys Class A (165)
Elgin Boys Class A (152)
Mt. Gilead Boys Class A (147)
Centerburg Boys Class A (146)
Fredricktown Boys Class A (144)
Cardington Boys Class A (143)
Fairbanks Boys Class A (141)
Northmor Boys Class A (129)

Girls
Buckeye Valley Girls Class AA (263)
Jonathan Alder Girls Class AA (244)
Rivervalley Girls Class AA (221)
Galion Girls Class AAA (216)
Highland Girls Class AA (213)
Upper Sandusky Girls Class AAA (205)
Pleasant Girls Class A (164)
North Union Girls Class AA (160)
Elgin Girls Class A (157)
Fredricktown Girls Class A (150)
Centerburg Girls Class A (149)
Mt. Gilead Girls Class A (149)
Cardington Girls Class A (139)
Northmor Girls Class A (138)
East Knox Girls Class A (128)
Fairbanks Girls Class A (128)


Ave
Buckeye Valley 283
Jonathan Alder 248
Rivervalley 240
Highland 223.5
Galion 215.5
Upper Sandusky 210.5
North Union 177
Pleasant 165
Elgin 154.5
Mt. Gilead 148
Fredricktown 147
Centerburg 147.5
East Knox 146.5
Cardington 141
Fairbanks 134.5
Northmor 133.5

Galion to

Fairbanks 60.4 mi, 1 hour 20 mins
Jonathan Alder 59.5 mi, 1 hour 16 mins
North Union 39.1 mi, 55 mins
Buckeye Valley 36.2 mi, 48 mins
Upper Sandusky 32.4 mi, 34 mins
Pleasant 28.4 mi, 43 mins
River Valley 18.8 mi, 27 mins
Ave 39.25mi, 51.85 min

East Knox 45.7 mi, 1 hour 4 mins
CenterBurg 37.3 mi, 1 hour 0 mins
Fredricktown 30.3 mi, 42 mins
Highland 28.7 mi, 39 mins
Cardington 19.6 mi, 28 mins
Mt. Gilead 13.1 mi, 19 mins
Northmor 9.2 mi, 16 mins
Ave 26.27mi, 38.29 mins

Elgin / Galion 29.9 mi, 51 mins

Elgin to
East Knox 58.9 mi, 1 hour 28 mins
Centerburg 48.5 mi, 1 hour 11 mins
Fredricktown 41.7 mi, 1 hour 9 min
Highland 38.5 mi, 1 hour 0 mins
Northmor 32.3 mi, 55 min
Cardington 23.2 mi, 43 mins
Mt Gilead 25.2 mi, 49 mins

Ave 38.33mi, 1 hour 14 min

Jonathan Alder 43.3 mi, 1 hour 2 mins
Fairbanks 37.2 mi, 58 mins
Upper Sandusky 29.3 mi, 48 mins
Buckeye Valley 25.4 mi, 41 mins
River Valley 15.0 mi, 32 mins
North union 12.4 mi, 23 mins
Pleasant 8.2 mi, 23 mins

Ave 24.4mi, 41 mins


Enrollment “East”
Ave. 155.19
Mode 147.5
Range 90

Enrollment “West”
Ave.209.19
Range 149.5

East with out Elgin but with Galion
Ave. 162.82

West without Galion but with Elgin
Ave 201.57

wallpass
04-03-2012, 02:59 PM
nknight92

As we have discussed, Highland wants no part of the large school division and neither does Elgin. Both have threatened to take their ball and go home if put in with the bigger schools. Because Highland won't budge you can't have a perfect big school/small school split. Because Elgin won't budge you can't have a perfect East/West split. Consequently, Galion gets put in with the larger schools because they fit size wise and Fairbanks gets put in the division because they fit geographically. Is this a perfect solution... absolutely not. Will it probably lead to more schools jumping in and out of the league sooner rather than later.... my guess is yes. But it is what we have for now.

paladin
04-05-2012, 11:17 PM
Those AAA, AA, A classifications are meaningless when determining what Division a school plays in, in any sport. They are only used for OHSAA Governance Classifications.