Ohio State QB Situation

[NewarkCatholicFan]

With Bauserman #2 on the depth chart how bad must the other QB'S on the roster be?

How sad of shape is the QB Position in?

The starting QB is as injury prone as any QB I have ever watch including his time in high school.

[hardingmavman]

Dude you have no clue atleast Miller was willing to take a hit and fight for yards unlike Pryor who ran out of bounds ever time and how in the world Fickle has Bausermen as #2 just amazes me there is no way in h3ll Guiton and Graham are not better then him or why they never get a shot at it they cant do any worse then Bausermen throwing it into the stands every time......

[NewarkCatholicFan]

I was not showing Miller any disrespect just stating the fact that he is injury prone.

[Icbm]

I can see why Bauserman didn't make it in baseball. He can throw worth a lick. Good Lord, how did last three years.

[Columbus_Card]

Weneed QB help ASAP. Based on the male populations at OSU maybe they should have walk-on try outs.

[swormofbuccs]

Dude you have no clue atleast Miller was willing to take a hit and fight for yards unlike Pryor who ran out of bounds ever time and how in the world Fickle has Bausermen as #2 just amazes me there is no way in h3ll Guiton and Graham are not better then him or why they never get a shot at it they cant do any worse then Bausermen throwing it into the stands every time......

I totally agree, Bauserman needs to be put on the pine permantly. He is a horrible passer. I would rather see hall run the wildcat formation over Bauserman at QB. That was hard to watch last night.

[integrity]

Talk about "tunnel vision". (lol)

How about some RECEIVERS who can actually get some SEPARATION from DB's????

Bauserman CERTAINLY deserves SOME blame,
but has ANYBODY paid attention to what's goin' on with the RECEIVERS???

And ... WHAT about the HIDEOUS O-line play when it comes to pass protection???
ANYBODY else see what's going on THERE???

Make Bauserman the scapegoat ALL you want ...
but it's QUITE evident there's PLENTY of blame to go around ...
assumin' ANYBODY'S been watchin the same games I've been watchin'.

[Icbm]

there were times last night he had plaenty of time and Guys without anyone else in sight and he overthrew them by 20 yards! You can't be serious. he was horrible against the MAC teams. Sorry, no argument by blaming the line or recievers.

How do you throw a swing pass ten feet over the guys head??? Really??? If he can't handle the pressure he shouldn't be their. Period!

[integrity]

So he's the ONLY problem they have on offense???
SERIOUSLY???? (lol)

WATCH what's happenin' on the line ...
AND in the secondary with the receivers.
REALLY watch it.
It ISN'T pretty. :(

There's PLENTY of blame to go around.
Blamin' "only" the QB is such a simplistic way of looking at things.
The ENTIRE offense is in shambles.
That's SO obvious ...



at least I THOUGHT it was.

[east_ohio]

Every week in America thousands people lose their jobs for doing absolutely nothing wrong. Who ever said JB is a D1 quarterback and said he could play at an elite D1 program and should be given a scholarship, have clearly given just cause for being fired. If they have already been fired, fire them a second time.

Actually after JB's first series, I thought it might have been better to just run Hall out of the Wildcat the remainder of the game, much like Ginn was used in the Bowl game several years ago.

[Buck Blvd]

Bauserman didnt even give his WR's a chance he threw the ball in the stands every time. Hes awful and Guiton plays special teams lol

[goalscorer9]

guiton doesn't play special teams, the anouncer made a mistake and thought #13 Cash was #13 Guiton

[ohtxfootball]

bauserman should dismiss himself from the team for how pathetically poor he has been. he cost fickell his job last night, however fickell cost himself by putting in the sorry excuse for a qb joe is

[troy_boy73]

The qb situation is sad for a major program. Hoping Miller is back soon or the Buckeyes will sink even worse.

[NLL4sure]

Talk about "tunnel vision". (lol)

How about some RECEIVERS who can actually get some SEPARATION from DB's????

Bauserman CERTAINLY deserves SOME blame,
but has ANYBODY paid attention to what's goin' on with the RECEIVERS???

And ... WHAT about the HIDEOUS O-line play when it comes to pass protection???
ANYBODY else see what's going on THERE???

Make Bauserman the scapegoat ALL you want ...
but it's QUITE evident there's PLENTY of blame to go around ...
assumin' ANYBODY'S been watchin the same games I've been watchin'.

Receivers got separation when Miller was in.. JOE ###############!!!!!!!!

[NLL4sure]

Bauserman didnt even give his WR's a chance he threw the ball in the stands every time. Hes awful and Guiton plays special teams lol

That was Cash... Not Guiton.. Once again Millen fails at his job

[hardingmavman]

you can just see the team surrounds around Miller as a leader when his in and just collapses when Bausermen comes in its amazing how the team turns drastically when Bausermen comes in you would think the coaching staff would see that i mean you see Miller get tackled and the linemen are pulling him back up encouraging him while bausermen gets no one its just not the ability he has its his field presence period brings the whole team down.... granted our defense didnt play worth a crap either the second half....

[ttcs]

The whole situation scares me. The recruiting at the qb position hasn't been good the last few years. My worry is what if Guiton and Graham transfer. Then next year we are left with only Miller and the kid from Glenville that's at prep school. What happens then if Miller gets hurt. Then we are watching the same crap we are this year all over again.

[bonesaw32]

thare is a reason he is 26 yrs old and has not played yet. its because he is terrible!

[14Red]

The whole situation scares me. The recruiting at the qb position hasn't been good the last few years. My worry is what if Guiton and Graham transfer. Then next year we are left with only Miller and the kid from Glenville that's at prep school. What happens then if Miller gets hurt. Then we are watching the same crap we are this year all over again.

More likely WHEN Miller gets hurt, not IF. I think the Buckeyes have a huge problem on their hands if they want to keep Miller as the #1 QB. You'd better recruit a couple of really good backups. Miller has started what 2 games and has not finished either game? He's a runner, and he gets hit alot. Bad combination.

[crusader]

More likely WHEN Miller gets hurt, not IF. I think the Buckeyes have a huge problem on their hands if they want to keep Miller as the #1 QB. You'd better recruit a couple of really good backups. Miller has started what 2 games and has not finished either game? He's a runner, and he gets hit alot. Bad combination.

Exactly, Miller is not the answer at QB long term. He never played a whole season in high school so why would he be able to do it in college. College ball is alot different then high school.

[Grantland]

what is the story line on both Graham and Guyton? I know Graham was hurt, but aren't they both healthy now.

[bigorangebuck22]

Weneed QB help ASAP. Based on the male populations at OSU maybe they should have walk-on try outs.

The 2nd best qb on campus plays on the basketball team.

[triton]

Dude you have no clue atleast Miller was willing to take a hit and fight for yards unlike Pryor who ran out of bounds ever time and how in the world Fickle has Bausermen as #2 just amazes me there is no way in h3ll Guiton and Graham are not better then him or why they never get a shot at it they cant do any worse then Bausermen throwing it into the stands every time......

A QB should avoid hits in order to stay on the field. Needlessly taking shots is not smart. To ask QB's to run like fullbacks in unreasonable.

[BradleyJaguars]

The qb situation is sad for a major program. Hoping Miller is back soon or the Buckeyes will sink even worse.

Unfortunately, we're going to be wishing for Miller to be back for the next few years. NCF is right on this one, the kid is soft.

[jgord24]

Dude you have no clue ......
Actually I think you have no clue.

atleast Miller was willing to take a hit and fight for yards unlike Pryor who ran out of bounds ever time......
QB's should not be looking to take a hit and fight for yards, they should be stepping out of bounds. That way they are around in the 4th quarter with a chance to win the game instead of sitting on the pine watching Joe Blows play QB. Fighting for extra yards, taking hard hits is not something I want our starting QB doing because eventually he is going to get hurt.

[centerback]

OSU should start anyone but Bauserman!!! He's worse than a freshman and he's been around a while.

[roll_red_roll]

Unfortunately, we're going to be wishing for Miller to be back for the next few years. NCF is right on this one, the kid is soft.

please tell me your not referring to miller as soft.

[BradleyJaguars]

please tell me your not referring to miller as soft.

His history indicates such.

[BAR43]

^^^ Yes, soft... if it wasnt a bad enough sprain to keep him out this week, then I can hardly believe it was too severe for him to play. Look at big ben for the steelers... I am sure his foot is much worse than millers tweak and he played through it.

[hspbuy1]

I don't think he's soft, It wasn't a hit that took him out. but I can see him as being injury prone! I hope I'm wrong, he's fun to watch healthy!

[bonesaw32]

bring in aaron craft he is the best quarterback they have on campus!!!!

[creeksider]

^^^ Yes, soft... if it wasnt a bad enough sprain to keep him out this week, then I can hardly believe it was too severe for him to play. Look at big ben for the steelers... I am sure his foot is much worse than millers tweak and he played through it.

BINGO!!!.......MEOW.

[cadetdog]

They had better be courting a seriously big name coach for next year or their recruiting will take a major hit and by the looks of this team we are WAY behind the league

[BAR43]

^^^ We really arent that far down talent wise and you could see that against nebraska when we had a QB that could do more than throw the ball out of bounds. Once or if miller gets more consistent and can stay healthy our offense will be right back where they were. Very young team overall.

[Warpath_ejh]

I hat eto say this, but as a former o-lineman, it didn't look like they were the problem when Bauserman was in. He's predictable, immobile, and overwhelmed. He only throws the ball deep. He never checks down, and hasn't shown the ability to read defenses and hit guys in stride in the intermediate routes.

I remember one play in the NE game where the DB gave 7 to 10 yards cushion, and he still overthrew both the WR and the DB. In that scenario, you need the WR to run the DB off, cut his route off short, and have Bauserman hit him back shoulder along the sideline. It would have given them a first down, easily.

He shouldn't play again, unless Guiton or Graham are unable to play due to injury. We need to know what we have in reserve. It's turned into that. Thanks for your time, but we are playing for a minor bowl chance, and next year.

Eric

[creeksider]

^^^ We really arent that far down talent wise and you could see that against nebraska when we had a QB that could do more than throw the ball out of bounds. Once or if miller gets more consistent and can stay healthy our offense will be right back where they were. Very young team overall.

Turn on an LSU game and tell me how far down we are....talent-wise.

[jgord24]

Turn on an LSU game and tell me how far down we are....talent-wise.Have to agree, I watch Alabama, Oklahoma, LSU, etc, play and there is nobody in their right mind that could actually think OSU has talent anywhere near those teams.. Wisconsin is going to show us just how much non-talent this OSU team has in 2 weeks don't worry.

[BAR43]

Turn on an LSU game and tell me how far down we are....talent-wise.

I was referring to them being competitive in the big ten.

For whatever reason this year has been the biggest difference between the top 4 teams: AL LSU WISC OK and everyone else.

[creeksider]

People need to get over the 'competititve in the Big Ten' crap. The Big Ten is falling behind the SEC at a RAPID rate. I'm sick of hearing' 'this is Big Ten football'. Yes it is.....and it is a joke. I will admit that Wisconsin looks to be really good this year....what about the other Big Ten schools? The conference is a JOKE.

[BAR43]

^^^ You people need to stop hating on the big ten. They hold up just fine, maybe they arent better than the SEC right now... but to say the conference is a joke shows your own ignorance.

[creeksider]

They aren't better than the SEC right now? When were they? Until the WHOLE conference does an overhaul of play style, recruiting and coaching....it will NEVER be the best conference in the nation. Jim Delaney needs to get it together, or the Big Ten will get farther behind. With the exception of a couple teams each year, there is NO nationwide respect for the Big Ten.

[BAR43]

^^^ I guess I did forget that EVERY team in the SEC is awesome and also 2 years ago I am pretty sure the SEC vs Big Ten in bowl games was split.

[triton]

^^^ I guess I did forget that EVERY team in the SEC is awesome and also 2 years ago I am pretty sure the SEC vs Big Ten in bowl games was split.

Are you really going to compare based on exhibition games? Unless it's for the National Championship, no college post-season game means anything.

[jgord24]

They aren't better than the SEC right now? When were they? Until the WHOLE conference does an overhaul of play style, recruiting and coaching....it will NEVER be the best conference in the nation. Jim Delaney needs to get it together, or the Big Ten will get farther behind. With the exception of a couple teams each year, there is NO nationwide respect for the Big Ten.

It has nothing to do with the play style. The Big Ten is falling further and further behind the SEC because of coaching and recruiting.
-The average coach in the Big Ten earns about 50% of what the SEC coaches make. That goes from head coach all the way down. Until some of these Big Ten schools decide they want to spend money on quality coaches it is going to get worse and worse. The style of play has nothing to do with it, Big Ten teams run the same style of offenses as any other teams in the county, the Big Ten just doesn't have the talented coaches of the SEC or the quality of player as the SEC.

[BAR43]

Are you really going to compare based on exhibition games? Unless it's for the National Championship, no college post-season game means anything.

So the only thing that makes a conference the best is the NC game?!? Not any other stat?! Interesting...

[jgord24]

Are you really going to compare based on exhibition games? Unless it's for the National Championship, no college post-season game means anything. Who says the bowl games are exhibition? The stats count and the win or loss counts on your record.

[triton]

Who says the bowl games are exhibition? The stats count and the win or loss counts on your record.

I count them as exhibitions because they count for anything except trivia. Isn't there always talk about motivational concerns for these games? If you asked these kids and they were completely honest, I would bet that over half would just as soon skip the practices and game and spend their break at home. They'd still want all the exhibition game bling though.

[Shirtless_Wonder]

Are you really going to compare based on exhibition games? Unless it's for the National Championship, no college post-season game means anything.

That's the most hypocritical response in the history of debating a topic. So when the big ten beats an SEC team in a bowl game other than the NCG, its "an exhibition". But when the SEC team blows out a Big Ten team in a bowl other than the NCG, we still hear that the B10 isn't any good? You don't get to change up the rules as the games go on, they either mean something or they don't!

You probably bad mouth big ten fans at the bar wearing your Auburn Polo, with a Kentucky Hat on, fair weather fan.:mad:

[jgord24]

I count them as exhibitions because they count for anything except trivia. . Just because you do that doesn't mean that is right. THE GAME COUNTS ON THE TEAMS RECORD......therefore it is not an exhibition game and it accounts for more than trivia. Exhibition games don't count as part of your season, if bowl games were exhibitions then they wouldn't be part of a teams overall record. If you want to say no bowl game matters(including the national championship) that is one thing, but either they all count for something or they all count for nothing. Your entitled to your opinion, but I seriously have to question your line of thinking on this one.

I count them as exhibitions because they count for anything except trivia. Isn't there always talk about motivational concerns for these games? . There is motivational concerns regular season games as well. You think Florida players get all jacked up to open the season with Miami of Ohio? Heck the OSU players haven't gotten motivated to play any game this year.

[crusader]

If you asked these kids and they were completely honest, I would bet that over half would just as soon skip the practices and game and spend their break at home. They'd still want all the exhibition game bling though.

Yea, cause that's what i wanted to do in college was go home. Not go on a free trip with my teammates and have the experience and memories that last a lifetime of playing in a Bowl game. I bet you never played football in your life before or any other sport for that matter.

[Warpath_ejh]

Bowl games are no different than regular season games. Motivation or not. These players love to compete, and they get to do it on a grand stage when they go to a bowl.

Right now, the northern teams are getting out-recruited. The draw of playing in the south is definitely part of it. How many guys would rather play in Wisconsin in November rather than Tuscaloosa? The bowl games end up being a virtual home game for most southern teams, and its the reason I support a playoff system so much. Make Auburn play Wisconisn in Soldier Field in January and see who wins.

Eric

[BAR43]

^^^ Exactly!! Its a shame that everything the NCAA does is money motivated, heaven forbid they make their golden child, SEC, play in a rough weather. If they held bowl games in more in-climate weather, the tables would be seriously turned... at least bowl wins wise.

[triton]

Yea, cause that's what i wanted to do in college was go home. Not go on a free trip with my teammates and have the experience and memories that last a lifetime of playing in a Bowl game. I bet you never played football in your life before or any other sport for that matter.

For all you know, I might have been one of those players who weren't to thrilled to go to Shreveport for that "trip of a lifetime" for what was then called the Poulan Weed Eater Bowl. What a grand stage.

Anyway, my point simply is that I just don't think comparing conferences on bowl match-ups has much weight because nothing is on the line, except for the national championship game. That is why I consider all other post-season games exhibitions, there is nothing on the line.

[creeksider]

^^^ Exactly!! Its a shame that everything the NCAA does is money motivated, heaven forbid they make their golden child, SEC, play in a rough weather. If they held bowl games in more in-climate weather, the tables would be seriously turned... at least bowl wins wise.

That would be 'inclement' weather.:rolleyes:

[BAR43]

I think someone needs a hobby... too busy spell checking everything on forum. Get a life buddy.

[mlisi39]

Does Art Schlichter have any eligibility left?

[unbiased1]

Am I on the wrong thread? I thought this one was supposed to be about Ohio St QB's, not bowl games or conferences. That being said ...

Let's just suffice to say Ohio St does NOT have 1. Miller is horrible, & Bauserman is even worse. Miller can run a little (no Pryor) but, his passing is flat out atrocious. 1 of 4, (17 yds & a TD) vs Illinois yesterday. That will NOT get it done vs a good opponent. Every pass he throws look more like a punt (wounded duck) than a pass. Ohio St can thank the defense and Heron for the win.

IMO the Buckeyes better recruit at least 2 QB's every year for the next 2 or 3 years. Just MAYBE they might find a decent one.