Next Ohio State coach

[mec0441]

Ok Brother Buckeyes...... Iam going to drop a bombshell on ya right now, and remember that you heard it here first. The next head coach of the Ohio State football team will not be Urban Meyer, Jon Gruden, Bob Stoops or Bo Pellini..... The next coach will be Skip Holtz.... Son of former Notre Dame coach Lou Holtz..... Take it to the bank. Would you like it or dislike? He is at the top of a very, very short list I am told. His team sure looked good against Notre Dame earlier this year.

[goalscorer9]

...and they sure looked bad against Pittsburgh....


I wouldn't mind skip, but I'll worry about the next head coach when the season is over. Actually I won't worry at all. Regardless of who's coaching the buckeyes I will support them and cheer them on. Current staff included.

Before you rip on me know that despite cheering them on during the game I am critical of the play calling after. But I will NEVER boo anyone wearing the scarlett and gray. Unlike 90% of the fan base apparently....

[mec0441]

well said goalscorer9....... agree 100 percent...

[ShakemupCan]

Lame!!! Goalscorer, how would anyone know that you were displeased and changes need to be made if you stayed silent? That's prolly how they do it in Capri Sun world of soccer, not football.

[PHDigger]

Yesterday pretty much locked the fate of Coach Fickle. And Ohio State will get not only a new coach for next year, but one of the top coaches in the nation. It will have to be a proven coach that will have the clout to clean out the entire staff. Personally, I do not see Skip Holtz being in this category. Honestly, I am hopeful that talks are already in place with UM. Like him or not, he is the man for the job.

[ShakemupCan]

You gotta know they have already talked to him! He is with Chris Spielman every Saturday and probably the flight to and from the game. Meyer it is.

[PHDigger]

I would certainly hope so. And I believe so too. IMO, he is the perfect fit. Next year can't come fast enough for me.

[Buddeee]

Meyer sounds more plausible. The OSU administration learned a valuable lesson in the Cooper era -- stay at home when looking for coaches. Youned someone familiar with the gold-fields of local talent.

[goalscorer9]

Lame!!! Goalscorer, how would anyone know that you were displeased and changes need to be made if you stayed silent? That's prolly how they do it in Capri Sun world of soccer, not football.

I am not a two year old and just because I am displeased I don't cry to mommy. You think the powers that be at OSU wouldn't still know the team is struggling if the fans didn't boo the kids after every play? I think they can figure it out on their own based on this thing called the final score. I just hope no recruits were there yesterday. Who would want to play at OSU if the fans treat you like that?

[PHDigger]

I totally agree about the booing. But I'm pretty sure they are directed at the coaching.
The reality is, this staff was put/left in place this year for one reason. Buy time until that 1 year ESPN contract is up. And I don't see how anyone could argue that point. Before or after yesterday.

[red fox]

No thanks to Skip Holtz i want Urban Meyer.:cool:

[pager]

It will be Meyer if he wants the job.

[PHDigger]

Another thing to consider is, everyone knew (including everyone at OSU) this year was going to be a wash. Maybe is was part of a plan. The NCAA always takes forever to hand out punishments. Every school under investigation self imposes penalties. Probably to see just what effect those penalties had. Impose some penalties, have a horrible year, get minimal additional penalties from the NCAA, give away a year and let that contract expire, hire UM, and hit the ground running in better shape then before all this. After losing to a horrible Miami, losing at home to a decent Sparty, almost losing at home to a good (but still MAC) Toledo at home, my guess is the NCAA will come out soon and be fairly happy with how we destroyed ourselves this year. Then let the hiring and recruiting process begin for next year!

[ray_n_deere]

Another thing to consider is, everyone knew (including everyone at OSU) this year was going to be a wash. Maybe is was part of a plan. The NCAA always takes forever to hand out punishments. Every school under investigation self imposes penalties. Probably to see just what effect those penalties had. Impose some penalties, have a horrible year, get minimal additional penalties from the NCAA, give away a year and let that contract expire, hire UM, and hit the ground running in better shape then before all this. After losing to a horrible Miami, losing at home to a decent Sparty, almost losing at home to a good (but still MAC) Toledo at home, my guess is the NCAA will come out soon and be fairly happy with how we destroyed ourselves this year. Then let the hiring and recruiting process begin for next year!

I agree. It will depend on what the NCAA decides. If they feel that OSU did enough by vacating 2010, paying back money, suspending the players involved in the original issue, let Tressel leave and eat brussel sprouts every meal and go to bed without dessert, a top-notch coach will jump at a chance to take over the team.

But, if the NCAA takes into account what happened after the hearing (players getting suspended for accepting cash at a charity event) and anything else that might pop and tells OSU that their self-imposed penalties aren't enough, then you may see Fickell (albeit with a new cast of assistant coaches) stay to weather a storm. A top-level coach would not want to delve into a program that may be hamstrung with few scholarships and other limits for a year or two.

[Alphamale]

Urban Meyer would lock down the state of Ohio as far as blue chip recruits go, UM/MSU/ND would all take a big hit from this. And his ties to Florida would ensure some good skilled position players coming north also.

[Warpath_ejh]

Meyer is certainly on the short list, but I'm not sure he's what tOSU needs. I want Mike Gundy from the other OSU, Oklahoma State.

He's an innovative mind on offense, and he's got some cajones. Remember how he stood up for his players in that interview. yea, he looked like a nut (Buckeye?), but those kinds of coaches players will die or kill for.

I've been saying that the past few recruiting classes have been talented, but small. It caught up with tOSU. They've relied on walk-ons and stayed away from JUCO players. Maybe that philosophy needs to change?

Eric

[2true4u]

Fellow buckeyes, throw stones at me if you must, trust me everyone else does, but I miss Jim Tressel. Sure, the guy made a horrifically bad judgement call concealing what he knew and all the fall out that has happened since then can be attributed to his mistake. BUT we are all human and we all attain the capacity to err. Only they who aren't willing to admit their own mistakes and failures will do the finger pointing. I guess what I'm saying is that Tressel was an AMAZING football coach who got a kick in the junk for being sinfully human while retaining compassion for the player(s) he coached. People demand blame and fault upon others only because they aren't willing to accept it upon themselves. Now there's nothing to do but sit back and watch as the next victim of the blame game is thrown onto the sacrifical coals. Good grief.

[crusader]

who got a kick in the junk for being sinfully human while retaining compassion for the player(s) he coached.

Compassion for players??? That's why he cheated? Please. Look at his track record back to Youngstown. Did his winners manual book at his on camera persona have you that fooled? He was a fraud, plain and simple. And he destroyed Ohio State's football program. Hopefully, it can be rebuilt quickly.

[Columbus_Card]

Myers or Pelini. This current Ohio State team is just not very good at the present time. Fickell, looks confused on the sideline don't know why.

[Ericles]

It won't be Pelini or Bob Stoops, despite the Ohio ties. No way does a coach from a highly ranked BCS program make what would essentially be a lateral move.

[integrity]

Pelini would be returning to NOT only his alma mater ...
where he was a team captain ...
but ALSO to his home state.

He's a REAL fiery guy who would be a complete contrast to what Tressel was.
I've heard MORE than one person refer to him as being "nuts". (lol)

[NapRover]

Ok Brother Buckeyes...... Iam going to drop a bombshell on ya right now, and remember that you heard it here first. The next head coach of the Ohio State football team will not be Urban Meyer, Jon Gruden, Bob Stoops or Bo Pellini..... The next coach will be Skip Holtz.... Son of former Notre Dame coach Lou Holtz..... Take it to the bank. Would you like it or dislike? He is at the top of a very, very short list I am told. His team sure looked good against Notre Dame earlier this year.

ND had 5 turnovers, at least one td called back, a missed FG and multiple personal fouls-not to take away from USF, but...just sayin

[bonesaw32]

as long as bolman goes i dont care who coaches. he is terrible!!!

[Red Saul]

Eric Taylor.

[or246]

I am hoping it is Urban Meyer, if not, I would like to see Time Beckman from UT.

[east_ohio]

...and they sure looked bad against Pittsburgh....


I wouldn't mind skip, but I'll worry about the next head coach when the season is over. Actually I won't worry at all. Regardless of who's coaching the buckeyes I will support them and cheer them on. Current staff included.

Before you rip on me know that despite cheering them on during the game I am critical of the play calling after. But I will NEVER boo anyone wearing the scarlett and gray. Unlike 90% of the fan base apparently....

Completely agree with you, although not and never have been a Bollman fan.

[BAR43]

I am not saying Fickell is the right guy. I want him to be, but he is just too green. With that being said the play calling is the least of the problems thus far in the the season. They aren't helping, but he isn't calling anything different the holy JT would have. The problem is: #1 OSU fans are irrational idiots (atleast most), #2 You have a team that lost its starting QB.. withouth its starting RB and number 1 and 2 receiver, and a starting OL. I would be very interested to know what people on here think JT or even coveted Meyer would have been able to do differently. The player are uninspired, sloppy, and slow. All said and done, I have no idea who is going to fill the void, but if you think that only problem here is Fickell, then people are sadly mistaken. Expectations are impossible for any coach, let alone a first year coach.

[K_H_S_86...]

I am not saying Fickell is the right guy. I want him to be, but he is just too green. With that being said the play calling is the least of the problems thus far in the the season. They aren't helping, but he isn't calling anything different the holy JT would have. The problem is: #1 OSU fans are irrational idiots (atleast most), #2 You have a team that lost its starting QB.. withouth its starting RB and number 1 and 2 receiver, and a starting OL. I would be very interested to know what people on here think JT or even coveted Meyer would have been able to do differently. The player are uninspired, sloppy, and slow. All said and done, I have no idea who is going to fill the void, but if you think that only problem here is Fickell, then people are sadly mistaken. Expectations are impossible for any coach, let alone a first year coach.

Really??? "play calling is the least of the problems?" Wow. Thats the 1st thing thats been needing adressed for years... You need to get over you love afair with Fickell he is JT with out the vest. Idiot fans do not have any effect on the outcome of the game. We just expect TOSU to win or atleast showup on game day(coaches to). So call me an idiot ill wear that badge with honor!!!! Whats wrong with that? Coaches coach fans cheer its been that way for years. If you think ole Pryor was a QB boy did he fool you. I see nothing wrong with Hall at RB. Ill go with the starting OL. So with your way of thinking without a starting QB kinda nullifies the receivers?? Uninspired players are the reason you have a coach and backups if they dont want to play there are others ready to. The void could be filled by letting the inspired ones play and coach. Good griff This is TOSU where "expectations" are and have always been to showup and WIN!!! NO-EXCEPTIONS!!!

[rtownrover2007]

Stoops would be taking a step down the ladder considering where he has the Oklahoma program at right now. I believe the only job he would even consider leaving Oklahoma for would be Iowa, his alma mater. OU hasn't been this good since the Switzer era. Ohio State needs a coach who has established himself at a BCS school that might be considered a step down from the Big Ten. Holtz fits that description, but besides his dad being Lou, he has no real ties to the Midwest. Pelini would be good, but did anyone watch what Wisconsin did to his team last night? Here's my guess on where they might go with this:

Mark Dantonio- Former D coordinator at OSU, has done a GREAT job at Michigan State considering they are the little brother team in their own state, which doesn't provide much of a recruiting base anyways.

Gary Pinkel- Missouri coach has the Ohio ties that all of you seem to want, and has done very well at another tough place to win. His age might prevent him from getting the job, though.

Urban Meyer- Good luck. This may not be the mortal-lock that many OSU fans think it would be (Penn State may come calling first). And remember, he needs a certain kind of QB to make his offense go. Remember how bad the 2010 Florida team was?

I personally think Dantonio would be the best fit for the job, but would his health issues scare OSU away from taking a long look at him?

[rtownrover2007]

And by the way, "t"OSU fans, you can't win a national title every year. Hell, even Saban can't do it at Alabama, and that is the best program in college football right now. Pryor's record as a starting QB was awesome, and they were almost as good as anyone last year. They just ran into a phenomenal Wisconsin team on the wrong night.

I personally am a Georgia fan, and trust me, Ohio State fans have been spoiled over the last decade or so under Tressel. This is a transition period that will take some time to fix. Fortunately, the rest of the Big Ten (besides Wisconsin) is down right now, so there are still a lot of winnable games on the schedule. I'd hate to see what you people would do to Fickell if he loses to Michigan in a rebuilding year....

[SUN&FUN]

Some seem to think booing actually makes a difference to AD's, Presidents. Oh yea, I pay for my ticket, therefore I have a right to boo. Stay home, save your money, and boo to your TV. Ticket sales, performance (coaches & players), and big $$$$ boosters will dictate next year's coaching staff - not booing! Maybe you could boo Smith & Gee?

[gcg58]

I like Dan Mullen at Mississippi State. My favorite (other than Meyer) would be Greg Schiano at Rutgers. He's done wonders with that program considering the fact it's flippin Rutgers! Easily would be a fabulous coach at Ohio State, he's landed some incredible talent there like Kenny Britt and Ray Rice. Also it wasn't that long ago he had them in a national title spot

[BobKatFam]

Bring back "The Vest !"

[BAR43]

Really??? "play calling is the least of the problems?" Wow. Thats the 1st thing thats been needing adressed for years... You need to get over you love afair with Fickell he is JT with out the vest. Idiot fans do not have any effect on the outcome of the game. We just expect TOSU to win or atleast showup on game day(coaches to). So call me an idiot ill wear that badge with honor!!!! Whats wrong with that? Coaches coach fans cheer its been that way for years. If you think ole Pryor was a QB boy did he fool you. I see nothing wrong with Hall at RB. Ill go with the starting OL. So with your way of thinking without a starting QB kinda nullifies the receivers?? Uninspired players are the reason you have a coach and backups if they dont want to play there are others ready to. The void could be filled by letting the inspired ones play and coach. Good griff This is TOSU where "expectations" are and have always been to showup and WIN!!! NO-EXCEPTIONS!!!

You are clueless. Just because you don't like conservative play calling doesn't mean it's wrong. And I am pretty sure you can't argue with JT 85%+ winning percentage with that philosophy. And yes, if we dont have a QB who can throw, then it doesnt matter how good our WR's are.

You can only coach and insipre kids to a certain point. I am not saying Fickell is without fault, but he took an impossible win position. And ignorant "fans" such as yourself as just embarrassing for this program. Hoping and wanting to win are fine... but expecting to is another story. The issues I listed in my previous post are HUGE. You can't discredit them or ignnore them. There is not a coach out there that would be doing any better with this team at this point in time. The players are too young and inexperienced. There is nothing wrong with a rebuilding year... everyone goes through it even the almighty OSU. Get realistic and some patience.

[wingsfan72]

Stoops would be taking a step down the ladder considering where he has the Oklahoma program at right now. I believe the only job he would even consider leaving Oklahoma for would be Iowa, his alma mater. OU hasn't been this good since the Switzer era. Ohio State needs a coach who has established himself at a BCS school that might be considered a step down from the Big Ten. Holtz fits that description, but besides his dad being Lou, he has no real ties to the Midwest. Pelini would be good, but did anyone watch what Wisconsin did to his team last night? Here's my guess on where they might go with this:

Mark Dantonio- Former D coordinator at OSU, has done a GREAT job at Michigan State considering they are the little brother team in their own state, which doesn't provide much of a recruiting base anyways.

Gary Pinkel- Missouri coach has the Ohio ties that all of you seem to want, and has done very well at another tough place to win. His age might prevent him from getting the job, though.

Urban Meyer- Good luck. This may not be the mortal-lock that many OSU fans think it would be (Penn State may come calling first). And remember, he needs a certain kind of QB to make his offense go. Remember how bad the 2010 Florida team was?

I personally think Dantonio would be the best fit for the job, but would his health issues scare OSU away from taking a long look at him?
If you think they would stay away from Dantonio for health reasons, why would they go after Meyer? Didn't he retire for health reasons?

[Alphamale]

^^^Because Meyer is 10x the coach Dantonio is, hiring coach D would ensure 9-3 seasons, is that what OSU fans want?

[matt40449]

The play calling is very similar to Tressel's play calling, which obviously won us a couple of games over the years. The only problem I (I'm nobody so who really cares?) have with the play calling is the lack of shots being taken down the field. I would like to see us take a shot down the field on first or second down early in the game. Even if we don't connect on it, the defense needs to respect the fact that we will go down the field, and this will loosen up the box by getting that 8th defender out of there. Once that safety or linebacker is out of the box we can run our power plays and throw short again. Other than this, the Buckeyes aren't doing anything they haven't done in the past with Tressel. I think the biggest problem at the moment for the Bucks is the lack of leadership ON THE FIELD. I just don't see anyone taking over and rallying the troops when something doesn't go our way. Last thing, the holdings and false starts need to quit happening so often, that's just a lack of focus on the player's part, which could be attributed to coaching, but I think this is just young players having too much going through their head.

This is all just my opinion.

[jgord24]

Top of the list for me
1)Urban Meyer
2)Jon Gruden(although I think he won't coach college, he will coach in the NFL next year)
3)Mike Gundy(Oklahoma State-would have a very tough time getting him away from there because of Mr. Pickens)
4)Mark Richt(he is going to get fired at Georgia)
5)Gary Patterson(TCU-although I don't think he would leave there for OSU)


-Bob Stoops is not leaving Oklahoma, he just signed a huge extension and he has a top team for years to come.

[tclexpert]

Tim Beckman

[creeksider]

Mark Richt? YGTBSM
Mark Dantonio, see above.

[troy_boy73]

Give it to John Harbaugh of the Ravens.

[K_H_S_86...]

You are clueless. Just because you don't like conservative play calling doesn't mean it's wrong. And I am pretty sure you can't argue with JT 85%+ winning percentage with that philosophy. And yes, if we dont have a QB who can throw, then it doesnt matter how good our WR's are.

You can only coach and insipre kids to a certain point. I am not saying Fickell is without fault, but he took an impossible win position. And ignorant "fans" such as yourself as just embarrassing for this program. Hoping and wanting to win are fine... but expecting to is another story. The issues I listed in my previous post are HUGE. You can't discredit them or ignnore them. There is not a coach out there that would be doing any better with this team at this point in time. The players are too young and inexperienced. There is nothing wrong with a rebuilding year... everyone goes through it even the almighty OSU. Get realistic and some patience.

Clueless me? Lets see how many times did TOSU line up in the I and go no where? No screen passes? Not 1 pass to the TE? unless I missed it. Not letting Miller roll out of the pocket? NO one coaching him(miller) again on the sideline (i was there) etc etc etc etc... clueless is not making halftime adjustments or even worse during the game. And YOU call me clueless? You funny guy.

9 Qb sacks aloud by a vetern team that was to be the strongest part of the team.

If the kids are not inspired playing for TOSU football team in OHIO STADUM on Saturdays let the other ones who are inspired play. Im quite sure every player on the sideline was recurited by many DIV-1 programs. So Im sure insperation runs down every players leg who is watching on the sideline. And YES a Coach can do this. So where does the "certain point" begin or end with the head coach??

Im not sure why being a fan (not ignorant) of TOSU and expecting them to win is embarrassing? Maybe for you but surly not me!!!

As far as "no coach out there that would be doing any better with this team" is "embarrasing" and a slap in the face to Coach JT. wow and you called little ole me "clueless" You discredited yourself with that!! ;)

[defense wins]

I am not a two year old and just because I am displeased I don't cry to mommy. You think the powers that be at OSU wouldn't still know the team is struggling if the fans didn't boo the kids after every play? I think they can figure it out on their own based on this thing called the final score. I just hope no recruits were there yesterday. Who would want to play at OSU if the fans treat you like that?

The "powers that be" at OSU are as guilty as JT....just saying! JT gets the blame for everything, Fickell is the lame duck for 1 year, and the fat cat "powers that be" just wink at each other and go on with business as usual. Tell me I'm wrong.
I am a big fan, and agree with your opinion on booing the kids, just not your opinion of the "powers that be".

[Border Patrol]

It looks like OSU is in need of a change to put the program on a new course. I hope Luke Fickel gets a chance to move back to his old spot on the defense. The D has been the best part of the teams for the most part since he has been here.

[crusader]

It's crazy how they roll out Bauserman but not Miller, unreal!!! It reminded me when against USC when Boeckman and Pryor were both splitting time and they ran the option when Boeckman was in the game! Unbelievable.

[K_H_S_86...]

^^^^^^^^^^ditto^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[rtownrover2007]

Top of the list for me
1)Urban Meyer
2)Jon Gruden(although I think he won't coach college, he will coach in the NFL next year)
3)Mike Gundy(Oklahoma State-would have a very tough time getting him away from there because of Mr. Pickens)
4)Mark Richt(he is going to get fired at Georgia)
5)Gary Patterson(TCU-although I don't think he would leave there for OSU)


-Bob Stoops is not leaving Oklahoma, he just signed a huge extension and he has a top team for years to come.

From a UGA fan, you don't want anything to do with Richt. OSU's play-calling is sloppy and predictable; Georgia's is 10x worse. Any third and long situation is now called a "Third and Richt" or "Third and Bobo (for offensive coordinator and former UGA QB Mike Bobo)" because we run the same damn play every single time. We run at least 20 play-action passes a game, even if the running game isn't working. Richt can bring in the talent for sure, he just can't coach it. He's up there with Ron Zook (and John Cooper) among great recruiters who can't win with the talent they bring in. No team with Stafford, Knowshon Moreno, and AJ Green should be getting abused by scores like 41-30 (2008 Alabama), 49-10 (2008 Florida), or 35-14 (2007 Tennessee, but Green wasn't there yet). Richt's teams are always flat for the biggest games (2008 Alabama and 2011 Boise State) and always seem to shoot themselves in the foot (2011 South Carolina). I promise, this isn't what you want.

-Gundy is a former Oklahoma State QB, he isn't going anywhere.
-Patterson is a good coach, but as stated, he probably isn't leaving TCU.
-Gruden is a pipe dream....he's either going to stay with Monday Night Football, where he is a wonderful analyst, or he'll be coaching the Jaguars next year.
-Meyer is debatable. Penn State might get him first.

[NLL4sure]

From a UGA fan, you don't want anything to do with Richt. OSU's play-calling is sloppy and predictable; Georgia's is 10x worse. Any third and long situation is now called a "Third and Richt" or "Third and Bobo (for offensive coordinator and former UGA QB Mike Bobo)" because we run the same damn play every single time. We run at least 20 play-action passes a game, even if the running game isn't working. Richt can bring in the talent for sure, he just can't coach it. He's up there with Ron Zook (and John Cooper) among great recruiters who can't win with the talent they bring in. No team with Stafford, Knowshon Moreno, and AJ Green should be getting abused by scores like 41-30 (2008 Alabama), 49-10 (2008 Florida), or 35-14 (2007 Tennessee, but Green wasn't there yet). Richt's teams are always flat for the biggest games (2008 Alabama and 2011 Boise State) and always seem to shoot themselves in the foot (2011 South Carolina). I promise, this isn't what you want.

-Gundy is a former Oklahoma State QB, he isn't going anywhere.
-Patterson is a good coach, but as stated, he probably isn't leaving TCU.
-Gruden is a pipe dream....he's either going to stay with Monday Night Football, where he is a wonderful analyst, or he'll be coaching the Jaguars next year.
-Meyer is debatable. Penn State might get him first.

^^^ Really LOL

[NewarkCatholicFan]

No thanks to Skip Holtz i want Urban Meyer.:cool:

I agree

[Chads]

Why not go big, we are OSU?

Best College Coaches, worth spending $5-6 million salary on (I figure it is what it would take to get these guys)

1. Nick Saban- I can see the headlines now......."Buckeyes hire their own 6 million dollar man", daughter still lives around Toledo I believe, is virtually an "Ohio guy" as he was raised just across the Ohio river and spent years at Toledo

2. Jim Harbaugh- longshot as Michigan man, but was born in Ohio, great coach

Could probably get Meyer for 3 million, but nobody is better than Saban

[nemesis2000]

lol there is no way saban is leaving alabama...haha that is the funniest thing i have seen on here... i understand that he is your number 1, but can we be a little realistic about this. but since were in this direction, i wouldnt be suprised if coach kelly (ND) goes for it if he were to lose his position. but other than that, most (not all we could get suprised) lead to coach meyer. big ohio guy, great coach, "big name" and well he has been in waiting to see one of his two most desired jobs (OSU,ND) open up and be ripe for the taking. i agree with gruden he's a "pro" coach but it wouldnt suprise me.

[Chads]

people were surprised when he fled MSU quickly, then surprised when he left LSU for the pros, then shocked when he left the dolphins for Alabama. I say shock the world again Nick!!

I am realistic that the chance this happens is slim, but if I am the a.d., I am at least making that call!!

[rtownrover2007]

Saban would never leave Alabama for Ohio State. They already built a Saban statue there, and Alabama is historically just as good as OSU. Right now, he has the best program in college football. It'd be impossible to pull away a big name coach from a legendary program like that; Alabama will match any offer made to him.

Harbaugh....not happening unless his gig with the 49ers goes really, really bad. Even then, would a former Michigan QB go coach his arch rival?

[rtownrover2007]

people were surprised when he fled MSU quickly, then surprised when he left LSU for the pros, then shocked when he left the dolphins for Alabama. I say shock the world again Nick!!

I am realistic that the chance this happens is slim, but if I am the a.d., I am at least making that call!!

That phone call lasts about seven seconds. Long enough for introductions and then for Saban to say "no" and hang up.

[USSTEEL]

NEXY OSU COACH WILL BE... Charlie Sheen.

[Braves Fan 99]

Mark Dantonio is the safe bet, he would get them back up to par.

[creeksider]

Mark Dantonio equals Earle Bruce. Do you guys that want him even WATCH his teams/results? They were hardly any better than a POOR Ohio State team.

[walshfan]

Maybe OSU should hire Mike "the coach" from the Biggest Loser. haha! Yes, just some comic relief. I don't know that Urban is the answer. The current roster does not have the players to fit his system; that would take some rebuilding. Has anyone mentioned the "mad-hatter", Les Miles. I love watching his teams play. He puts players in position to perform at their best and take advantage of their strengths. He is also an innovative coach who is not afraid to take chances to win the big one.

[BAR43]

Ive been hearing Tony Dungy's name... not sure its realistic but would be a nice fit.

[jdd5]

glen mason lurking out there

[safety27]

Tim Beckman would be a great choice

[creeksider]

glen mason lurking out there

Call him...if you want 8-4 seasons every year, he's your man. I'd put him in Dantonio's category,I'll just call it the 'Earle Bruce' category.:o

[jgord24]

Call him...if you want 8-4 seasons every year, he's your man. I'd put him in Dantonio's category,I'll just call it the 'Earle Bruce' category.:o

After this year, we will be begging for 8-4 seasons for a couple of years until we can get out from under the NCAA's hammer they are going to drop! It's sad but its the truth. I think OSU is going to have trouble just finding any coach to take the job because after the continous NCAA violations these dopes(players keep commiting), along with a AD who is flat out liar, the NCAA is going to hammer OSU. I didn't think that was the case before but the continued problems are going to be the nail in the coffin when they make the ruling.

As far as this year if you told me right now we could go 8-4 I would take it. Realistically they are going to lose the next 3 games. The coaching staff is already losing the players so after these 3 games it may get worse(if that is possible). I think they lose to Penn State and Michigan, so we are looking at a 5-7 football team most likely. Hopefully I am wrong, but we will see.

[BAR43]

^^^ I really dont see the NCAA hammering much more than OSU has done to itseld already. Now if more stuff continues yes, but the last situation was not that big of a deal. Even if they do get a couple year post season ban they will still have plenty of interest in this job. OSU is one of the largest programs, and is the biggest NFL factor program in the nation, kids can't ignore that either can potential coaches.

As for the rest of the season... we have the palyers to be a 8-4 team, but they need to switch up the offense desperately... they have nothing to lose so why not?! Of course I hate seeing the bucks down this year... but considering the situation you really cant expect anything else.

[Shirtless_Wonder]

my short list:

1.Meyer
2.Beckman
3. Patterson or the Boise coach, but neither one will jump ship
4. Gruden/Holtz

I hope that some team in the MAC or Sun Belt picks up Fickell the day he leaves Columbus because he deserves a shot with HIS guys, not Tress's.

[triton]

Call him...if you want 8-4 seasons every year, he's your man. I'd put him in Dantonio's category,I'll just call it the 'Earle Bruce' category.:o

An 8-4 at Minnesota IS doing something. I called it a few years ago when Minnesota over-reacted after an exhibition game loss that they would regret it. Mason even had a 7-4 at Kent State.

[crusader]

my short list:

1.Meyer
2.Beckman
3. Patterson or the Boise coach, but neither one will jump ship
4. Gruden/Holtz

I hope that some team in the MAC or Sun Belt picks up Fickell the day he leaves Columbus because he deserves a shot with HIS guys, not Tress's.

I don't know why you think Patterson and Peterson wouldn't leave for OSU. Unless, you know something that I don't. I think they would at least entertain it. Why wouldn't they?

[jgord24]

As for the rest of the season... we have the palyers to be a 8-4 team, but they need to switch up the offense desperately... they have nothing to lose so why not?! Of course I hate seeing the bucks down this year... but considering the situation you really cant expect anything else.

I agree, they have enough talent to go 8-4, but there is already grumblings of the coaches losing the team. It's not hard for us the fans to see we have a running QB and are running the wrong offense. I can only imagine what the players think of Bollman at this point. It's going to be very hard for the coaching staff to get players to play hard when the players know the guy running the offense is a moron. What I can't grasp is how Bollman actually thought that gameplan for last week was going to work? Its obvious by the way the offensive line played, that the players knew it wasn't going to work.

[creeksider]

I thought the coach had to be an 'Ohio' guy?lol

[jgord24]

I don't know why you think Patterson and Peterson wouldn't leave for OSU. Unless, you know something that I don't. I think they would at least entertain it. Why wouldn't they?

These guys names have been thrown around for years for bigger jobs and they have yet to move. OSU had a hard time finding a coach to take the job when they hired Tressel, no big names wanted the job.

And recent examples of big time teams trying to get big time coaches, Michigan had a hard time trying to find someone, Notre Dame had a hard time trying to find someone, Alabama had a hard time trying to find someone until they brought out the brinks truck for Saban. Unless OSU is going to back the brinks truck up and pay someone $5-6 million a year they are going to have trouble getting a big time coach away from another school. If you think Peterson or Patterson are leaving those programs for $2-3 million a year you are clueless. They have it made where they are.

[BEARS]

^^ At this point IT dosn't matter , anyone is better than pickal lol ! ^^

[ncgrad]

Peterson makes 750k a year he would listen I am sure.

[crusader]

My list would be in no order except Meyer #1
Meyer
Dan Mullen
Mark Stoops
Bo Pelini

[crusader]

Peterson makes 750k a year he would listen I am sure.

Especially at a school like TCU, the tide could turn at any point now. He might want to get out while he is a hot commodity.

[jgord24]

Peterson is not the coach at TCU, Patterson is. Peterson is at Boise St. Do you think Michigan contacted any of these guys or Notre Dame contacted these guys? I am sure they weren't offering up peanuts if they called them.

I hope I am wrong but we will see. Truthfully I would take the coach at Hilliard Davidson over Fickell right now.

[thavoice]

Urban Meyer has the perfect job right now to be able to jump into the OSU program and succeed.

He is scouting, i mean calling, big ten games for the most part on ESPN.

he can coach, is available, and can hit the ground running because he will already have alot of research and scouting done of OSU and the conference.

[82wolve82]

Truthfully I would take the coach at Hilliard Davidson over Fickell right now.

Now that is a suggestion I can get behind! Coach White at HD has a great system and his kids overachieve every year.

Certainly Meyer is the best candidate for OSU now. Some of the other suggestions are ludicrous. Why would OSU settle for guys like Richt, Mason, or other re-treads that are cast off by lesser programs? Why would guys like Saban, Stoops or Miles make a parallel career move when they could be the governor of their current state?

We need to find a great coach who has name recognition and is either available or wanting to make a jump up.
1. Meyer (of course)
2. no one else is close enough to be 2nd
3. Peterson
4. S. Holtz (as long as Lou stays away)
5. Beckman

[wkfan]

We need to find a great coach who has name recognition and is either available or wanting to make a jump up.
1. Meyer (of course)
2. no one else is close enough to be 2nd
3. Peterson
4. S. Holtz (as long as Lou stays away)
5. Beckman

Here is a better one than any of yours...especially Meyer.




Pat Fitzgerald

[pdiddy25]

1) Urban
2) Urban
3) Urban
4) Gruden
5) Josh McDaniels- Ohio guy..pro offense style would attract great recruits. Good character and "looks the part"

Any one with a good offense...Ok States coach is a moron...dancing like an idiot after games....the whole blow up of "Im a MAN, Im 40"....we need a high class person like Harbaugh from Stanford or San Fran now...Stoops, Saban ect....
Although he had problems at USC...Pete Carrol after he gets fired from Seattle would be very nice IMO

[SaugeyeKing]

Rich Rodriguez !!!!!!!!!

lol

[jgord24]

Any one with a good offense...Ok States coach is a moron...dancing like an idiot after games....the whole blow up of "Im a MAN, Im 40"....we need a high class person like Harbaugh from Stanford Considering I watched Harbaugh come un-glued during the San Fran vs Cowboys game 2 weeks ago I dont' think you know what your talking about. You don't know anything at all about Harbaugh based on that post. Harbaugh's blow ups make Gundy look like a preschool teacher!! LOL Gundy is a good coach.

[BAR43]

^^ At this point IT dosn't matter , anyone is better than pickal lol ! ^^

Fickell is not a bad coach at all. He may not be ready for all the responsibility, but to think ANY of the OSU short comings this year are his fault is just ignorant. There is not a coach out there that would be able to do anything different. And from what I hear, his hands have been tied due to his interim status.

Chances are Fickell will be out at the end of the year, but I really would like him to stay on as DC or assistant DC, he is a very intelligent and talented coach on the defensive side of the ball. Not to mention his recruiting abilities and ties. I dont think OSU fans understand what they will be losing if Fickell is gone.

[Warpath_ejh]

I'm not saying I don't like some of the choices, but Gundy is an up and coming coach, who I think could be lured away from his current committment. Pelini, toss up. Stoops, no way. Meyer, yes but does he want to coach? How "sure" is he?

Gundy was defending his payer or players in his press tirade. Today's teenagers and young adults want someone to stand up for them. He's my pick if they go to a new coach.

Warpath

[jgord24]

Gundy was defending his player or players in his press tirade. Today's teenagers and young adults want someone to stand up for them. .Yes he was, a reporter saw OSU's QB eating lunch with his mother at a restaurant and attacked the kids character based on the encounter of the kid with his mother.(calling him a sissy and moma's boy basically) That was completely uncalled for and unprofessional. The fact that Gundy did what he did"I'm a man, I'm 40", needed to be done because he was standing up for the kid like a father would of his children. I will always respect Gundy for that. If the reporter wasn't a female, they probably would have been punched in the face and deserved it too.

[pdiddy25]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3341578

The person he was "defending" knew it wasn't genuine....he did it for one reason only and that was to fool people into thinking he was a stand up coach for his players....and obviously he fooled many of you as well. NOTHING in the world worse than a poser.

[jgord24]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3341578

The person he was "defending" knew it wasn't genuine....he did it for one reason only and that was to fool people into thinking he was a stand up coach for his players....and obviously he fooled many of you as well. NOTHING in the world worse than a poser. The kid and his mother both said it was genuine but they all the sudden changed their mind months later when he didn't get his starting job back................imagine that!! LOL Yeah, I am sure that is why his teams get better every year because they have a "poser" as a coach! Give me a break.

[Drewline]

Chances are Fickell will be out at the end of the year, but I really would like him to stay on as DC or assistant DC, he is a very intelligent and talented coach on the defensive side of the ball. Not to mention his recruiting abilities and ties. I dont think OSU fans understand what they will be losing if Fickell is gone.

New head coaches do not keep the previous HC on staff. Too confusing for the kids and uncomfortable for the staff and university. Fickell will quickly land a good position on a staff but not in Columbus.
Fickell is not just an excellent coordinator but an excellent human being. Unfortunately he was thrust into a nearly impossible situation.

[MrMcCluskie]

Tim Beckman would be a good fit. Look what he's done with Toledo already. He's more offensive minded and creative. TU doesn't have that great a record but have played way above their heads.
Urban Meyer I doubt will take the job. If he does have real problems with health OSU is not the place to be. Especially if he loses a few games. The fans would be all over him and I don't care what anyone says it take a great toll on a person.

[BAR43]

New head coaches do not keep the previous HC on staff. Too confusing for the kids and uncomfortable for the staff and university. Fickell will quickly land a good position on a staff but not in Columbus.
Fickell is not just an excellent coordinator but an excellent human being. Unfortunately he was thrust into a nearly impossible situation.

I know typically new coaches bring their own baggage, but you never know. Fickell is an up and coming defensive coach. He has strong ties with the program and Ohio recruiting. I wouldnt think it is out of the realm for a new coach to keep an existing one.

[Royally nuts]

"All I'll tell you is this about Urban Meyer," Herbstreit said. "The media, I think, really missed the boat back in '04 when he ended up taking the Florida job and the Notre Dame job was open the same year. Reports got out there that Urban Meyer's dream job was Notre Dame and to be the head coach in South Bend. The reality is, his dream job has always been and will continue to be the head coach at Ohio State.
I still recall sitting in Meyer's office at Bowling Green for more than an hour back when he was just beginning his rise to prominence in the college landscape, listening to Meyer talk about his Buckeye-born-and-bred allegiances, pounding his desk as he impersonated Earle Bruce.
"He grew up in Ashtabula, Ohio, went to the University of Cincinnati, worshipped Woody Hayes and Earle Bruce," Herbstreit said. "And if he were ever given an opportunity down the road to become the head coach at Ohio State … if that opportunity presented itself, for him to not accept that, for me, would be hard to imagine."

I'm just saying!

[creeksider]

That's old news. It's possible, but Herbstreit is NOT always right.

[rider246]

Hopefully it will be Urban meyer but Skip would be good. Either one is a huge improvement over Fickell!

[K_H_S_86...]

Fickell is not a bad coach at all. He may not be ready for all the responsibility, but to think ANY of the OSU short comings this year are his fault is just ignorant. There is not a coach out there that would be able to do anything different. And from what I hear, his hands have been tied due to his interim status.

Chances are Fickell will be out at the end of the year, but I really would like him to stay on as DC or assistant DC, he is a very intelligent and talented coach on the defensive side of the ball. Not to mention his recruiting abilities and ties. I dont think OSU fans understand what they will be losing if Fickell is gone.

Again you keep saying this "no coach out there" BS??? Im sure there are (JT) comes to mind. But to say it over and over is asinine!! Fickell is in WAY over his head. We see it week to week. He is or atleast you think he is a good DC? Or maybe just maybe JT covered alot of his (LF) and others coaching deficiencies? Hands tied? Wow thats a streach...

I can hear the meeting....."Coach Fickell you are the
coach of TOSU but your hands are tied. so we can make sure any hopefull recruits out there that still may have TOSU on there mind see that YOU have no controll over this program and with any luck at all we can get em here." Thats sure to leave a lasting impression on any possible recruits. unless the same person that tied Fickells hands also has a pocket full of blindfolds so he can cover their eyes . So they do not see what we(well everyone but you) see everyweek? sounds kinda silly?

Is that what you mean by hands tied and interim status???? I dont think the powers in charge is TOSU are that dummmm(well maybe)?

What the h#ll are you thinking? You seam to have a man-crush on ole Fickell.

TOSU by its self will recruit. TOSU is bigger then ONE person even you know that.

So tell me what will we be losing (other then 7/8 games) if Fickell cant cut it?

[pdiddy25]

Don't know the name of the man but how about Clemson's coach?? He runs an extremely efficient and powerful offense and he recruits like a mad man!! He had recruits lining up at the door to play for him at Clemson...decent program but if he can recruit top 3 classes nationally there, he can do ANYTHING at Ohio State IMO.

[hardingmavman]

Don't know the name of the man but how about Clemson's coach?? He runs an extremely efficient and powerful offense and he recruits like a mad man!! He had recruits lining up at the door to play for him at Clemson...decent program but if he can recruit top 3 classes nationally there, he can do ANYTHING at Ohio State IMO.

thats who i was thinking should take over if they cant get Urban Meyer.... his passion and excitment is what really makes me like the guy he would be awsome at OSU

[K_H_S_86...]

^^^Dabo Swinney^^^
Clemson's coach

[ShakemupCan]

Urban Meyer..... Dabo Swinney is forever on the hotseat at Clemson

[rtownrover2007]

Dabo's offenses were always inept until this year when he made a wonderful OC hire. The only other good offense he had was the CJ Spiller show (GREAT, GREAT player) but the man damn sure can recruit. Tommy Bowden could too. How has Clemson not won more? Swinney's teams (as did Bowden's) always seem to gag on the biggest stage. It remains to be seen how it'll play out this year, but that team is LOADED with talent. Clemson has just as good if not a better recruiting base than OSU. GA, SC, FL and even VA are usually loaded with high school talent, and Clemson poaches all of those places for their top players.

The top five states for HS talent are generally TX, FL, CA, GA, and OH. Clemson has pretty good access to two of those.

[BAR43]

Again you keep saying this "no coach out there" BS??? Im sure there are (JT) comes to mind. But to say it over and over is asinine!! Fickell is in WAY over his head. We see it week to week. He is or atleast you think he is a good DC? Or maybe just maybe JT covered alot of his (LF) and others coaching deficiencies? Hands tied? Wow thats a streach...

I can hear the meeting....."Coach Fickell you are the
coach of TOSU but your hands are tied. so we can make sure any hopefull recruits out there that still may have TOSU on there mind see that YOU have no controll over this program and with any luck at all we can get em here." Thats sure to leave a lasting impression on any possible recruits. unless the same person that tied Fickells hands also has a pocket full of blindfolds so he can cover their eyes . So they do not see what we(well everyone but you) see everyweek? sounds kinda silly?

Is that what you mean by hands tied and interim status???? I dont think the powers in charge is TOSU are that dummmm(well maybe)?

What the h#ll are you thinking? You seam to have a man-crush on ole Fickell.

TOSU by its self will recruit. TOSU is bigger then ONE person even you know that.

So tell me what will we be losing (other then 7/8 games) if Fickell cant cut it?

Clearly you have no knowledge about OSU football. I am not saying his hands are tied, I was repeating what I have heard, not sure if its true or false and neither do you. I think Fickell is a good person and coach, so knowing him personally I have bias opinion.

There is a very strong chance that even JT would have struggled with this season's issues. It is not a coach thing, and it makes me mad to hear ignorant people like yourself put blame on Fickell when legit there is no way he was going to be able to succeed in the eyes of irrational buckeye "fans". I agree Fickell is in over his head, but every analysis and intelligent person would tell you any coach would be in over their head with the set backs the program has had... and this is why NO ONE jumped at the opportunity to coach them this year.

Fickell is not ready for the position right now I completely understand that, but he is still a great asset to lose and its a shame the way "fans" have acted with this whole situation, this isn't Fickells fault... its JT and the idiot players that made mistakes.

[cover2]

If Ohio State continues to overpolice their program as they are doing now, no matter who ends up being chosen as the Official Head Coach they will need to adopt a new fight song "The Impossible Dream". Recruiting IMO will be at an all time low for many years to come. "News Flash" 6 OSU players have been suspended for ordering the $4 Quarter Pounder w/cheese meal at Mickey D's as it was deamed that meal was actually worth $4.23 thus causing a violation.

[jgord24]

I know typically new coaches bring their own baggage, but you never know. .
Yes we do know, no coach in their right mind is going to keep Fickell around or the previous "interim coach". Its not going to happen, I don't care if their are no other coaches in the world out there.

Fickell is an up and coming defensive coach. That may be, but we know he is not head coaching material so it really doesn't matter because he is gone at the end of the year.

He has strong ties with the program and Ohio recruiting. I wouldnt think it is out of the realm for a new coach to keep an existing one. If the existing staff weren't part of JT's circus then you might be right, but considering they are clones of him without the ability to figure out how to coach up a football team they are all going to be working at the Citgo next year.

I wish Fickell the best the rest of the year and hopefully we win some games, but he is going to have a very tough time keeping this team together, especially with the players all knowing Bollman doesn't have a clue.

[Drewline]

Herbstreit comments were way prior to the littany of health ailments which afflicted the very intense Meyer toward the end of his stint at UF.
He may dream of the OSU job but he is concerned about leaving his young wife a widow and his kids orphans.

[triton]

Didn't Herbstreit basically guarantee Miles was going to UM in 2007? The guy has little credibility.

[crusader]

Didn't Herbstreit basically guarantee Miles was going to UM in 2007? The guy has little credibility.

He also said, Ohio State would win the big ten this year. a few years back he predicted Miami vs. Notre Dame for the national title(actually i think it was the year OSU played Florida in the national title) and I don't think either team even made a bowl game. I haven't listened to him in years. He shows no more knowledge than your average everyday casual observer of football.

[BAR43]

[QUOTE=jgord24;5176872]Yes we do know, no coach in their right mind is going to keep Fickell around or the previous "interim coach". Its not going to happen, I don't care if their are no other coaches in the world out there.

Yup you're right... never in the history of sports has a new coach ever keep and existing coach. I forgot that 100% proven fact, what was I thinking.

[jgord24]

He shows no more knowledge than your average everyday casual observer of football.
I agree, he has some good insight at times and I don't mind listening to him at all, but you just have to realize he is no different than anybody else who watches college football on a weekly basis.

[jgord24]

[QUOTE=jgord24;5176872]
Yup you're right... never in the history of sports has a new coach ever keep and existing coach. I forgot that 100% proven fact, what was I thinking. Why would you keep him around? New head coaches do not keep the previous HC on staff. Too confusing for the kids and uncomfortable for the staff and university. .
This is why you don't

[BAR43]

^^^ PLease explain the harm?? He has been part of the coaching staff that has put together one of the top defenses every year for the past 10 years. That's fine if you don't care for Fickell or want to blame him for the losses this year like most the other idiot fans on here, but he has proven to be a good coach and recruiter. I know it is not likely at all, but I like the guy and truly believe he will be a great coach in the near future and wish he would stay with the program, thats all.

[jgord24]

^^^ PLease explain the harm??.
It's confusing for the kids on the team and uncomfortable for the kids, new staff, and administration. He has been part of the coaching staff that has put together one of the top defenses every year for the past 10 years.He's also part of the coaching staff that was in charge when all these problems occurred. You have got to clean all these guys out to try and rebuild the image of the school.

That's fine if you don't care for Fickell or want to blame him for the losses this year like most the other idiot fans on here.
I don't know Fickell personally, he seems like a good dude and is from C-bus so I am rooting for him. I don't blame him soley for the losses, but I do blame him for not knowing what he is doing. 1)This whole QB process is a nightmare and he is the head coach, falls squarely on his shoulders. 2)Watching Miami run the clock out while he stood there like a deer in headlights with 3 time outs in his hand. Got on the bus with 2 of them3)He may not be in charge of the offense but he better at least have some kind of say in what's going on. It's unexcusable what the offense has been doing or not doing. If he doesn't want Bollman or like him, then step in and make Bollman change what he is doing. Speak up about it, don't just sit back and say its not my problem I don't do the offense.

but he has proven to be a good coach and recruiter. Proven to be a good coach? He has proven he isn't a ready to be a head coach, he is the head coach right now....he is not good at it. There is nothing that I have seen him do that would tell me he would be a good head coach anytime in the near future. If I thought that I would say hire him full time.

[BAR43]

I didnt say he was a good Head Coach... just because you are thrown into a lose lose situation and dont fare well... doesnt mean your a bad coach. He is a good coach and you are pretty ignorant to judge him on this situation. This entire season doesn't show one ounce of his coaching ability. He is dealing with someone elses problems and suspended and injured players. And what changes would you expect him to make since he gets a half a$$ one year to coach?!? There is no way the man was going to succeed or do well.... Smith knew it, Gee knew it... they just wanted someone to take all the bruises down the rough road. You are completely ignorant to judge this man on the season the bucks are having... for all we know he has no control of who he is coaching with this year and what he is allowed to do. No one on here knows the situation behind the doors. I am really starting to see why people hate OSU fans... bunch of idiotic, stuck up, unrealistic morons.

[BulldogMike15]

Bo Is The Next Coach.

[wilco98]

Right now, I'd settle for the ghost of Woody Hayes.

[jgord24]

I didnt say he was a good Head Coach... just because you are thrown into a lose lose situation and dont fare well... doesnt mean your a bad coach.

Nobody was expecting OSU to go undefeated, I(as I think most other OSU fan realists) thought this was a 3-4 loss team going into this year. What people are expecting is at least a team prepared, fired up and ready to play hard. I thought we may lose some games to some better teams but we will be competitive and in every game. What we have seen so far with this team is pathetic. The head coach is making mistakes most pee wee football coaches wouldn't make. Do you know how Braxton Miller found out he was not going back in the game last week? Taylor Graham went over and told him.....................That is Fickell's job. Why was Fickell not talking to him about it? That right there is inexcusable.

[BAR43]

Nobody was expecting OSU to go undefeated, I(as I think most other OSU fan realists) thought this was a 3-4 loss team going into this year. What people are expecting is at least a team prepared, fired up and ready to play hard. I thought we may lose some games to some better teams but we will be competitive and in every game. What we have seen so far with this team is pathetic. The head coach is making mistakes most pee wee football coaches wouldn't make. Do you know how Braxton Miller found out he was not going back in the game last week? Taylor Graham went over and told him.....................That is Fickell's job. Why was Fickell not talking to him about it? That right there is inexcusable.

Really?!? Where did you get that info? Don't even say "your source".

[jgord24]

Really?!? Where did you get that info? Don't even say "your source".

They were talking about it on the radio after the game for the post game show.(common man and Torge) I believe they said someone asked the question after the game how Miller found out he was out of the game and that was the answer the player gave. Common Man and Torge were going off about it and ripping Fickell for it. I am sure if anyone else listening to 97.1 after the game they heard this as well.

Now when they said that on the radio, Its a little hard to believe that a coaching staff would do that but I know it was true because I was at the game. (seats behind OSU's bench so I can clearly see), I was watching the sidelines when Bauserman got the call to warm up, no coach every went near Miller and he never had a head set on or put a head set on. It wasn't possible that a coach could have even told Miller he was out because no coach went near him.

[Drewline]

I heard Herbstreit say this week on 1460 that the 3rd string QB was the one to tell Miller he wasn't going back in that Bauserman was going in. Herbstreit also went on to say he thought it strange that everytime Miller was shown on the sideline there was no one around him. No coach with an arm around him or even players such as Bauserman, hanging around him trying to pick him up or say, 'tough day it'll get better' or some words of encouragement. Each time the cameras showed Miller he was by himself with a deer in headlight look not even a clipboard standing by the offensive co-ordinator. Definately strange.

[K_H_S_86...]

Clearly you have no knowledge about OSU football. I am not saying his hands are tied, I was repeating what I have heard, not sure if its true or false and neither do you. I think Fickell is a good person and coach, so knowing him personally I have bias opinion.

There is a very strong chance that even JT would have struggled with this season's issues. It is not a coach thing, and it makes me mad to hear ignorant people like yourself put blame on Fickell when legit there is no way he was going to be able to succeed in the eyes of irrational buckeye "fans". I agree Fickell is in over his head, but every analysis and intelligent person would tell you any coach would be in over their head with the set backs the program has had... and this is why NO ONE jumped at the opportunity to coach them this year.

Fickell is not ready for the position right now I completely understand that, but he is still a great asset to lose and its a shame the way "fans" have acted with this whole situation, this isn't Fickells fault... its JT and the idiot players that made mistakes.

Clearly we look at things differently witch is fine. Seams like when one does not agree with you you resort too name calling. Strange.
Clearly Your biased opinion of Fickell is transparent to all of us "irrational fans" I have no dout Fickell is a Great person and Coach. Just wrong place wrong time. This does not take away the man he is. HOPE you are clear on this. Im passionate about TOSU football program as you are. Does not mean I can not look and see things differently then you.
Ive never said get rid of Fickell not sure where you come up with this. Others have. But not me, unless I miss spoke. He just is not head coach material. Not here not now.

In all my 44yrs of watching and listing to "analysis" and "intelligent" people NEVER have they been WRONG??? Come on man!!

Your man crush for Fickell is going to make an old man outta you!!:eek:

[Drewline]

BAR43 was quoted as saying he would never believe what was being printed on Tressel before the announced debacle until he heard it from his (JT) lips. Well he eventually heard it from his lips and then his Buckeye spin changed to everyone's fault but Tressel's.
He only sees the world through dim scarlet and grey glasses.
If Fickell was going through the same scenario wearing Maize and Blue he might be able to objectively say, "The guy is in over his head". Not to say Fickell won't someday work his way up the ranks of MAC or Western Athletic Conference HC and eventually succeed as HC on the major college. But right now, it isn't working and it is not all Fickell's fault.

[jgord24]

Herbstreit also went on to say he thought it strange that everytime Miller was shown on the sideline there was no one around him. No coach with an arm around him or even players such as Bauserman, hanging around him trying to pick him up or say, 'tough day it'll get better' or some words of encouragement. Each time the cameras showed Miller he was by himself with a deer in headlight look not even a clipboard standing by the offensive co-ordinator. Definately strange.

Agreed, I witnessed it. If you just sat there watching the OSU side lines during the game you would never figure out who the head coach was if you didn't know any better.(we obviously had a lot of time to watch that since we went 3 and out all day long)

[Drewline]

When the play-by-play announcer, Sean McDonough (a guy I think is one of the better ones) states near the end of the 3rd qtr, that, 'OSU's offense is pathetic it is all they can do just to keep from running into one another', you know OSU may have finally reached rock bottom as a result of all of this.

[wgh82]

Josh McDaniels and any offensive assistants of his choosing.

Keep Fickell as asst. head coach while Vrabel works his way up to DC.

[cover2]

Not a chance!

[lmavcch3]

Josh McDanials???? The same guy that drafted Tebow in the 1st round (actually trded up to do it.)? The same guy who took over for a fairly successful St Louis team who is winless this year? Put the pipe down. LOL.

[Bill32]

Urban Meyer is in. The "health issues" were a front to cover up his playing around with the coeds. His wife got sick of it and forced his to quit. She will forgive him once he signs his new $6MM contract at OSU

[Drewline]

Urban Meyer is in. The "health issues" were a front to cover up his playing around with the coeds. His wife got sick of it and forced his to quit. She will forgive him once he signs his new $6MM contract at OSU

WHAT? Do you have anything to support such a statement? Or just a Gator, Meyer basher?

[hardingmavman]

Urban Meyer is in. The "health issues" were a front to cover up his playing around with the coeds. His wife got sick of it and forced his to quit. She will forgive him once he signs his new $6MM contract at OSU

talk about smoking a pipe lol.....

[Shirtless_Wonder]

I don't know why you think Patterson and Peterson wouldn't leave for OSU. Unless, you know something that I don't. I think they would at least entertain it. Why wouldn't they?

Well, If you've watched any of the espn coverage on either team, both coaches were offered several top jobs and turned them all down. Some due to personal reasons, other due to the fact that they would rather not take on such a big headache, and continue to build a quality program where they are.

[cadetdog]

No way the buckeyes should hire Pelini ,watching that horses a** chomp on his gum all year would be too painful

[bonesaw32]

larry kehres from mount union

[creeksider]

larry kehres from mount union

Division 3 is just a couple notches above high school. You can't be serious.:rolleyes:

[foultip]

I kinda look at Fickell as a guy on a plane asked to help land a 747 because the pilot and co-pilot are passed out at the controls.

[WGOU]

Urban Meyer needs to be hired. And I don't doubt that he was playing around with the coeds.

[dc_28]

Urban or Peterson (Boise St), those are the two hot coaches that know how to win at any size school. They are both young and would be a shot in the arm for OSU. Get rid of Gee, Smith, the athletic training staff, fire the comliance department, heck, you might even fire the cheerleading coach. Anyone associated with the football team has to go. Just about every coach except for Vrabel was coaching under Tressel. I have coached at the college level. I coached the running backs and I knew more about them and what they were doing more than the head coach. Assistant coaches put out the fires before it gets to the head coach. That staff knew what was going on.

[crusader]

Division 3 is just a couple notches above high school. You can't be serious.:rolleyes:

A couple of notches? It is basically high school football all over again. I knew so many guys that never saw the field in high school yet found a D3 school that they could start on.

[jgord24]

A couple of notches? It is basically high school football all over again. I knew so many guys that never saw the field in high school yet found a D3 school that they could start on.
At about 50% of the Division III schools that is not that far off, but not Mount Union. Mount gets the Division I players that aren't elgible to play Division I and then the best players that are borderline Division I players. Couple of years ago Mounts starting left tackle had a scholarship to go to OSU but didn't qualify academically so went to Mount. Name was Larry Kinnard.

http://www.the-ozone.net/recruiting/kurelic/bkmar99.htm

You guys ever heard of Pierre Garcon! LOL Cecil Shorts drafted in the 4th round by Jags and is on the roster. Just a couple Division III players

Either way that doesn't take away from what Kehres has done. You don't WIN that much not being able to coach. There is no point in bashing Kehres because there is no amount of money OSU could offer him to leave Mount Union so lets just stop the talk. I am fully confident that Kehres could coach the OSU team this year have at least 2 more wins than Fickel will have.

[14Red]

Josh McDanials???? The same guy that drafted Tebow in the 1st round (actually trded up to do it.)? The same guy who took over for a fairly successful St Louis team who is winless this year? Put the pipe down. LOL.

I've never understood the disdain for Tim Tebow? Sure he may not have gone to your favorite college, but the guy is a flat out winner, on and off the field.
Let's put it this way, if every college student athlete had the morals and ethics of Tebow, you wouldn't need compliance departments at these universities. Think about that for a moment. No tatoo gate, no illegal payments to student athletes, no agents messing around.

[irishbullhorn]

If Urban Meyer even opts to interview for the job, he will have lied to his family TWICE about "retiring from coaching". If a man can do that to his "family", what does that say about him as a man? No... the next HC at OSU will be an Ohio guy, with OSU ties, but it won't be Urban Meyer.

[creeksider]

Maybe his circumstances have changed. Is he allowed to change his mind?

[jgord24]

If Urban Meyer even opts to interview for the job, he will have lied to his family TWICE about "retiring from coaching". If a man can do that to his "family", what does that say about him as a man? .It says he has 2 national championships, has won everywhere he has coached, and we will welcome him with open arms. Nick Saban lied like crazy when leaving the Dolphins, I would take him as a coach any day of the week and twice on sunday.

[twodown]

Glen Mason?

[triton]

At about 50% of the Division III schools that is not that far off, but not Mount Union. Mount gets the Division I players that aren't elgible to play Division I and then the best players that are borderline Division I players. Couple of years ago Mounts starting left tackle had a scholarship to go to OSU but didn't qualify academically so went to Mount. Name was Larry Kinnard.

http://www.the-ozone.net/recruiting/kurelic/bkmar99.htm

You guys ever heard of Pierre Garcon! LOL Cecil Shorts drafted in the 4th round by Jags and is on the roster. Just a couple Division III players

Either way that doesn't take away from what Kehres has done. You don't WIN that much not being able to coach. There is no point in bashing Kehres because there is no amount of money OSU could offer him to leave Mount Union so lets just stop the talk. I am fully confident that Kehres could coach the OSU team this year have at least 2 more wins than Fickel will have.

You have stated what I have for years, Mount wins because it has much lower academic standards than most D-III schools. They accept kids that schools like Case and Carnegie Mellon cannot even talk to.

[wildcatpride]

Nick Saban lied like crazy when leaving the Dolphins, I would take him as a coach any day of the week and twice on sunday. Agreed. Saban is a much better liar than Tressel. That's why Saban is still coaching in the NCAA and Tressel is not.

[bballfan]

If Meyer were going to ever get back into coaching, it would be at either Texas or Ohio State.

Urban has stated privately, but has made it public through other people, he will never coach in the SEC again. Unless Texas opens up, and I really cant see that happening, I think Urban is a dead lock for OSU.

Now, some of you have probably heard Penn State fans say he is a lock to go there. While that school is a sleeping giant, they simply cant offer what other big schools can right now. I would imagine that either Schiano, Golden or Ferentz end up at PEnn State. Again, Penn State is a sleeping giant, but Urban Meyer is not going to go there and recruit against Michigan, Ohio State and Notre Dame.

One thing I think people assume is that we always know what is going on, when it comes to coaching searches. Our recruiting has been hurt for this year, and would have been saved simply by naming Luke Fickell perminant head coach. For them to not do that in the off-season, that means there was a GIANT name VERY interested in the head coaching job. IMO, that was either Gruden or Meyer, and i seriously doubt it was Gruden.

And something to remember for the future. At some point, Urban Meyer is going to deny wanting to coach here. Hes gonna have to. Thad Matta had to do the same thing, along with Saban at Alabama, and many many other coaches. Dont freak out when that happens!

[BAR43]

^^^ thought there were roomers of Meyer meeting with Penn State a couple weeks ago and he had shown interest in them. Not sure tho..

[Drewline]

I have felt for a longtime Schiano was going to end up at PSU. However, the program at Rutgers seems to have fallen flat again under his leadership. Not as strong a candidate as he once was.

[creeksider]

^^^ thought there were roomers of Meyer meeting with Penn State a couple weeks ago and he had shown interest in them. Not sure tho..

Chris Spielman said on his show yesterday, that the Meyer to Penn State rumors are 100% FALSE. I'm quite sure he knows. What are 'roomers'?:rolleyes:

[Drewline]

I heard PSU was just going to 'stuff' Paterno and keep him on the sidelines like a scarecrow, indefinately.

[wilco98]

I heard PSU was just going to 'stuff' Paterno and keep him on the sidelines like a scarecrow, indefinately.

Anything's possible. Gotta wait for him to kick off first, and that might take a while.

[BAR43]

What are 'roomers'?:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Sorry typing on phone doesn't enable me to have perfect spelling. Ill work on it just for you.

[let's go red]

jimmy johnson "how bout them buckeyes"

[Columbus_Card]

I'll still pull for Urban, the man can recruit as well as win.

[foultip]

Anything's possible. Gotta wait for him to kick off first, and that might take a while.

Weekend at Happy Valley.

[ladydi80943935]

i also heard that penn state was after meyer. they said that some of the alumni were going to go after him. they are tying to figure out a way to get rid of paterno. if osu has ANY interest at all in this man, they sould go after him before he does sign with penn state i personally think that he is being a very selfish man by staying. you would think that he would retire and enjoy the rest of his life with his wife.

[bonesaw32]

bill cowher has shown interest in the job also according to a close source of his.

[Alphamale]

i also heard that penn state was after meyer. they said that some of the alumni were going to go after him. they are tying to figure out a way to get rid of paterno. if osu has ANY interest at all in this man, they sould go after him before he does sign with penn state i personally think that he is being a very selfish man by staying. you would think that he would retire and enjoy the rest of his life with his wife.

I'm going to go out on a limb here a little bit and guess that "Somebody in a very important position @ OSU" has already had some sort of contact with Urban regarding the HC job.

[irishbullhorn]

It says he has 2 national championships, has won everywhere he has coached, and we will welcome him with open arms. Nick Saban lied like crazy when leaving the Dolphins, I would take him as a coach any day of the week and twice on sunday.

Exactly. Urban already has climbed to the top of the ladder as a college football head coach. The only ladder left for him to climb is the one he has chosen to climb with his family.

[irishbullhorn]

Division 3 is just a couple notches above high school. You can't be serious.:rolleyes:

Why not?? Many D1 coaches go to Larry Kehres on a regular basis for advice. Larry Kehres is a helluva football coach, an outsanding leader who has built a tremendous program, and a winner. His D3 program is just a couple of notches better than some D1 programs. Doesn't matter he coaches at a D3 school. Woody Hayes came to Ohio State from Denison.

[creeksider]

i also heard that penn state was after meyer. they said that some of the alumni were going to go after him. they are tying to figure out a way to get rid of paterno. if osu has ANY interest at all in this man, they sould go after him before he does sign with penn state i personally think that he is being a very selfish man by staying. you would think that he would retire and enjoy the rest of his life with his wife.

I'd say that he is still coaching because he DOESN'T want to spend all of his time with his wife.:p

[Blutarsky]

Why not?? Many D1 coaches go to Larry Kehres on a regular basis for advice. Larry Kehres is a helluva football coach, an outsanding leader who has built a tremendous program, and a winner. His D3 program is just a couple of notches better than some D1 programs. Doesn't matter he coaches at a D3 school. Woody Hayes came to Ohio State from Denison.

Good comments.....I love how folks, who never played or coached at the college level, get on here and bash Kehres......the man has won over 300 games and 10 National Championships. He plays by the rules, his kids graduate, and he CALLS the offense. It's true that many other coaches, at a variety of "levels", come to his practices to see his offensive schemes. He's not leaving Mount, but don't say he couldn't do the job.

[creeksider]

Since when do you have to play a sport to bash a coach?

[Blutarsky]

obviously that is not a prerequisite......

[suffjo]

One choice Urban Meyer period! Anyone one else would be another failure by Gene Smith and the OSU trustees.

[triton]

Why not?? Many D1 coaches go to Larry Kehres on a regular basis for advice. Larry Kehres is a helluva football coach, an outsanding leader who has built a tremendous program, and a winner. His D3 program is just a couple of notches better than some D1 programs. Doesn't matter he coaches at a D3 school. Woody Hayes came to Ohio State from Denison.

He has an unfair advantage in D-III because of Mount's more "relaxed" admission standards compared to the majority of D-III schools.

[Blutarsky]

I always hear of Mount's "relaxed" standards.....does anyone have any real facts to back that up, not just anecdotal comments? What is the average ACT/SAT for football players at Mount vs. the other schools in the OAC or other D-III schools? How about the graduation rate?? I will believe it when someone shows statistics, not opinion.

[crusader]

i also heard that penn state was after meyer. they said that some of the alumni were going to go after him. they are tying to figure out a way to get rid of paterno. if osu has ANY interest at all in this man, they sould go after him before he does sign with penn state i personally think that he is being a very selfish man by staying. you would think that he would retire and enjoy the rest of his life with his wife.

Back when Urban Meyer was at Utah and was going to leave there I thought that OSU should have fired Tressel to get him. Now I am one of the OSU fans that always has been critical of Tressel's offensive philosophy. I am a BG alum and saw what he did and BG and Utah in a short amount of time. He is an offensive genius. I will never deny Tressel's success and he is a great coach but he was stuck in the stone age. Obviously, OSU would have never fired Tressel for Meyer unless they foresaw the violations under Tressel or if they would have happened during that period. My reasoning for wanting OSU to dump Tressel for Meyer was purely because it was obvious to me that Meyer was a better coach and one of the up and coming stars, a "can't miss" if you will. He obviously lived up to that and if OSU can get him or think they can get him they need to do anything and everything to land him. He would make everyone forget about Tressel real quick.

[G-Townben]

Eric Wolford lol

[Warpath_ejh]

I'd say that he is still coaching because he DOESN'T want to spend all of his time with his wife.:p

JoePa married someone significantly younger than he, and given the little blue pill, he probably can still have a lot of fun with his young wife.

I don't see Meyer anywhere but ESPN, or OSU. Any talk of Penn State, is just to sweeten the OSU deal. Or, to force it.

Eric

[Warpath_ejh]

Let's hire Mark May so we can throw things at him. I hate that a-hole!

Eric

[BAR43]

^^^ +1. Hysterical.

[bballfan]

Let's hire Mark May so we can throw things at him. I hate that a-hole!

Eric

Now thats an idea......



and you also got me thinkin.....its probably best Jim Bollman is in the press box.

[triton]

I always hear of Mount's "relaxed" standards.....does anyone have any real facts to back that up, not just anecdotal comments? What is the average ACT/SAT for football players at Mount vs. the other schools in the OAC or other D-III schools? How about the graduation rate?? I will believe it when someone shows statistics, not opinion.

Being private schools, that kind of information may not be readily available. However, it is a fact that conferences like the UAA and NCAC have higher academic standards than the OAC. Further, one of the big reasons BW has dropped from the elite level of D-III football is that it decided it would not lower its standards to compete with the Mounts and the Rowans. Finally, Garcon could not get in at Central Florida but could get into Mount. Isn't that enough anecdotal evidence for you to at least consider the possibility that Mount is willing lower its admissions in order to be successful in sports? Do you really think that the University of Chicago would have accepted Garcon? I know personally kids who get accepted into Mount whose transcripts would be trashed by schools like Case and Carnegie Mellon.

[Old Lion]

Being private schools, that kind of information may not be readily available. However, it is a fact that conferences like the UAA and NCAC have higher academic standards than the OAC. Further, one of the big reasons BW has dropped from the elite level of D-III football is that it decided it would not lower its standards to compete with the Mounts and the Rowans. Finally, Garcon could not get in at Central Florida but could get into Mount. Isn't that enough anecdotal evidence for you to at least consider the possibility that Mount is willing lower its admissions in order to be successful in sports? Do you really think that the University of Chicago would have accepted Garcon? I know personally kids who get accepted into Mount whose transcripts would be trashed by schools like Case and Carnegie Mellon.


Garcon did not come to Mount instead of C Florida out of high school. He went Norwich College (also D3) where his older brother was attending. When his brother transferred out of the military program, Pierre left for Mount after his freshman year at Norwich. So his HS grades had nothing to do with getting into Mount. It was his college scores at Norwich.

I fully realize that Mount is not Case Western or Washington U, nor is it claiming to be, but to make it sound like a community college is absurd. It's a good school like the majority of the OAC is. Nothing more, nothing less.

And your reasoning for BW's slide is comical. With a great visionary coach, BW would be a beast again.

[creeksider]

ACT average is 17- 18. Just a guess.

[Warpath_ejh]

We've gotten way off topic. I know that Meyer is the front runner, and I'd be happy if he took over the Buckeyes. I just think someone like Gundy deserves a look. He might not want to ever leave Okie State, but we sure would give him a pay raise if his name was mentioned at tOSU.

Any one disagree that it makes sense to name a coach now? I fear we are going to lose key recruits, and any undecideds may consider tOSU if Meyer was named head coach.

Eric

[cover2]

Talking to someone about the job off of the record is one thing but announcing something this early in the season would tarnish the reborn image that the OSU administration is stumbling and bumbling to try to establish. The season is waning and I don't think anyone feels it can be salvaged (unless you beat that team up North). Recruiting has and will continue to suffer irregardless of who the next HC is at OSU. IMO they are 5 years away from even thinking about competing in that arena at the level they have in the past 5-6 years.

[bballfan]

Ok, 1) We are playing 14 true or redshirt freshman right now. We might be 5 years from a national title, but we are only 2 from a big ten championship and BCS game.....with the right coach.

2) I keep hearing Mike Gundys name come up. Do you guys think he would leave when they have all of the 400 million T Boone Pickens just donated there? Ohio State flipped out over Wexner's 100 million. Gundy isnt going anywhere, unless Texas comes calling.

3) Mount Union is a good school, but lets not pretend there aren't D1 rejects there. You can roll a turd in powdered sugar all you want, it still wont taste like a donut. The mount Union football team, through the hard work and dedication of Kehers and staff, play by a different set of rules. You dont become that successful by not knowing how to side step a few land mines. You also dont become that successful without having some bigger programs come calling. There's a reason he is still there.

4) Jo Pa is at an age now where someone needs to start making decisions for him. That program is a sleeping giant, but is 10 years away from a national title because their head coach doesnt know when to quit. I have great respect for Penn State, but they need a coach with some youth and excitement in there. I dont even think Urban Meyer would be a good fit. I think Al Golden or Greg Schiano would be perfect for that job. They need someone who will ruffle the feathers against Michigan and Ohio STate. Urban Meyer doesnt want to do that and if he did, he would be at Florida right now.

[irishbullhorn]

Since when do you have to play a sport to bash a coach?

And now we know why they are called "fans".

[BAR43]

Talking to someone about the job off of the record is one thing but announcing something this early in the season would tarnish the reborn image that the OSU administration is stumbling and bumbling to try to establish. The season is waning and I don't think anyone feels it can be salvaged (unless you beat that team up North). Recruiting has and will continue to suffer irregardless of who the next HC is at OSU. IMO they are 5 years away from even thinking about competing in that arena at the level they have in the past 5-6 years.

OSU you could be back at the top of the big ten next year. They have a very young team and once we get stability at the QB position they will flourish. You could see that when they man handled nebraska with just average QB play. Of course we need the right coach, but we already have the talent.

[Lancer '65]

I think that Jim Tressel was a magnificent coach, but if you want him so badly,crusader, why don't you go hire Urban Meyer. For me to forget about Tressel, here is what Meyer would have to do as Buckeye Coach. He would have to coach for fifteen or so years and win 80% of his games, keeping in mind that he isn't in the warm climate of Gainesville anymore. He would be roaming the snow-blown icy snow covered tundra of Ohio where, although he is a good recruiter, he would be on the outside looking into to Florida recruits now, not to mention other warm and cold weather haunts where he used to get all that speed Florida always had and still has. Does
Urban Meyer have the fire for that? He would have to prove that to make me forget Tressel. Will he stay longer than a few years before he burns out? He does have a bit of a history regarding leaving....sometimes more than once. Does he even want the job? I thought that Notre Dame was his dream job other than being in Florida, where he has said on several occasions, he was very happy. Tressel has still coached in as many BCS Games as any coach in college football and that would be an area that Urban would have to be a regular visitor to to make me forget Tressel.
I guess the other thing is that although Tressel made a very big mistake in covering up some players wrong doing, I think that what was done was, at the time, something that Tressel did to protect players from something that Tressel didn't think was all that serious and he simply tried to protect players (very unwisely) from scrutiny. It cost Tressel his job and I realize that Meyer has no such skeleton in his closet at the moment, but any little violation that they uncover, if they do in fact find something, and you just know that they will be out there turning over every shovel full of potential dirt on him and it will be blown up into a WW3 issue very similar to Tressel's situation if anything at all is found, regardless of how insignificant it may be. Does Urban want that kind of undeserved and unwarranted attention and constant pressure? I would say no.

Urban Meyer is set for life. He is evidently enjoying life with his wife and family and can get a high paying analyst's job anytime he wants and if he is assigned an Ohio State home game in the late end of the season he will be in the press box or on TV more than likely in a nice warm inside set. In all seriousness, why would he want to coach again? Money isn't as important to some as others and perhaps Coach Meyer is one of those people. I don't really mean this post as an attack post. I'm just trying to figure out why there is this huge call out there for Coach Meyer, given all of the reasons he might not really be very interested. Perhaps he needs to tell us, so that those that constantly call for him to come and "save" OSU Football can either keep up the barrage or relax, comfortable in the knowledge that Coach Meyer isn't coming and that's that.

[Drewline]

Well you may want to delete Tressel from your equation because he ain't coming back. If you can tell me where his clone is I'm for hiring him, as well, because there is no arguing with his record. Just tell the clone not to lie to the NCAA. JT has never apologized or even explained his actions (as you have interpreted them). He just as likely did it because he didn't want to face the potential season Fickel is experiencing right now.
As far as the best 'sure shot' possibly available, Meyer is the man. Won at BG and Boise both well North of the Mason Dixon line. He has proven he can adapt. As far as other sure winners I don't think Miles, Saban or Bob Stoops are going anywhere.
Going from Mt. Union to OSU might be like going from Moeller to ND.

[Lancer '65]

I know Tressel is gone for good, Drewline, but I still think that Coach Meyer isn't that interested in coming into the pressure cooker that is Ohio State.

[Drewline]

That is the multi-million dollar question. A personal health and family one only Meyer knows the answer to.

[cwindian]

^^^ a lot of good points but it was Utah not Boise St.

[Drewline]

^^^ a lot of good points but it was Utah not Boise St.

Either one no stranger to cold weather.

[Old Lion]

3) Mount Union is a good school, but lets not pretend there aren't D1 rejects there. You can roll a turd in powdered sugar all you want, it still wont taste like a donut. The mount Union football team, through the hard work and dedication of Kehers and staff, play by a different set of rules. You dont become that successful by not knowing how to side step a few land mines. You also dont become that successful without having some bigger programs come calling. There's a reason he is still there.



The reason LK is still in Alliance is he doesn't want to leave. Back in the late 1990's he was offered the Princeton and Kent State jobs. Turned them down and hasn't entertained any inquiries since.


Getting back to the original question about OSU, I think Meyer would be the perfect short term fix. He'd have instant credibility, would recruit like mad and get the most out of the players already on the roster. However I think he'd quit again in 3 years. But at least the program would be hiring the long term coach with the program on the rise again instead of the black abyss that it is now.

[JU-ICE]

If not Meyer, what about Gary Pinkel from Missouri? Good coach with Ohio ties.

[Shirtless_Wonder]

If anyone was listening to 97.1 the Fan here in Columbus, Chris Spielman put to rest some rumors about Urban Meyer.

1. He has NOT bought a home in Upper Arlington and is NOT looking to buy one
2. Pittsburgh Post Gazette was stating he met with PSU officials last week in Pittsburgh, this was also false, because he was with Speilman at the time of the so-called visit. They were at a restaurante in Pittsburgh having lunch.
3.His Daughter does not play college volleyball for OSU, she plays for Georgia Tech.

So that tells me a few things, one, he is not in any direct contact with OSU or PSU, and if he has the itch to coach again, he is not saying anything.

UM may not be such a sure thing.

[Loverboy]

Nobody will want the job after the NCAA is done with us.

[Salsa boy]

Fellow buckeyes, throw stones at me if you must, trust me everyone else does, but I miss Jim Tressel. Sure, the guy made a horrifically bad judgement call concealing what he knew and all the fall out that has happened since then can be attributed to his mistake. BUT we are all human and we all attain the capacity to err. Only they who aren't willing to admit their own mistakes and failures will do the finger pointing. I guess what I'm saying is that Tressel was an AMAZING football coach who got a kick in the junk for being sinfully human while retaining compassion for the player(s) he coached. People demand blame and fault upon others only because they aren't willing to accept it upon themselves. Now there's nothing to do but sit back and watch as the next victim of the blame game is thrown onto the sacrifical coals. Good grief.

Are you kidding me?????now go to your room without dinner and be sure to take your meds..........you know you are not to be out without proper supervision!!!!:eek:

[Lancer '65]

I'm not sure why we're so all consumed with finding the next coach. We have a coach. The Buckeyes are playing better football. We just defeated Illinois, not a world beater but 6-0, 2-0 when we played them. What if...(and you know how "iffy" "iffy's" can be), the Bucks upset Wisconsin and beat the Wolverines yet again. That would be in 9-3 territory all of a sudden and some pretty outstanding Buckeye coaches have "suffered" through 9-3 seasons before. What would the nay-sayers offer up then. I think there are people out there that just want to b$#@#h for the pure joy of doing it. Leave this poor guy alone. He did us all a favor by accepting the job. He is probably working his tail off 18-20 hours a day, trying to produce a winner in Columbus in this, the first year after Armageddon and all you can hear is "next coach", etc etc etc. It's really tiresome and not at all supportive of what the current coaching staff in Columbus is working to create, so that the whiner's handpicked "saviour" can come in and inherit the fruits of Coach Fickell and his staff's hard work and then we can be treated to "see what a difference a good coach makes" from those that have a thing for "Big Names".

[BigNutBuckeye]

There's alot of football to be played this year, can't blame all of the issues Ohio State has had on Coach Fickell, not too many coaches would have Ohio State playing better ball right now. There's no way Bob Stoops leaves OU for Ohio State. It is very pausible that the list will come down to Bo Pelini, Mark Dantonio, and Urban Meyer. The job will be Meyers' should he choose to accept.

[rascoach]

Gruden just signed a big contract extension with ESPN. Unless there is an opt out clause, he is off the list.

[BigNutBuckeye]

Gruden would be a horrible selection for Ohio State, NFL coaches to the college ranks, I'll pass.

[K_H_S_86...]

Nobody will want the job after the NCAA is done with us.

This "nobody" will take it!! :D

[Freak On A Leash]

Gruden is off of the list. He wants to be a broadcaster. Too bad, I thought he had all of the skills and abilities that OSU will need. I feel that there will be a name surface that will shock everyone when the search starts. Obsolutely shocking name.

[PHDigger]

Newest rumor (stressing the word rumor) is that UM will be anounced as the new Head Coach during halftime of the OSU/Duke basketball game.

Yes just a rumor, but I for one believe this will be the case. I think the hand writing is on the wall.

[BigNutBuckeye]

Newest rumor (stressing the word rumor) is that UM will be anounced as the new Head Coach during halftime of the OSU/Duke basketball game.

Yes just a rumor, but I for one believe this will be the case. I think the hand writing is on the wall.

Absolutely no way this rumor is true, Duke comes to Columbus during the football season, no way The Ohio State University does that to coach Fick.

[PHDigger]

Actually, the Duke game is on 11/29. The Michigan game is on 11/26. With the exception of the Big 10 championship game, the season is basically over. I honestly hope they don't wait much later then that for something like this to take place.

[Pudge]

There's alot of football to be played this year, can't blame all of the issues Ohio State has had on Coach Fickell, not too many coaches would have Ohio State playing better ball right now. There's no way Bob Stoops leaves OU for Ohio State. It is very pausible that the list will come down to Bo Pelini, Mark Dantonio, and Urban Meyer. The job will be Meyers' should he choose to accept.

Urban Meyer will NOT come to OSU for a couple of reasons: 1) He has nothing to prove or accomplish by coming here. His previous moves have all been career "promotions" and this would not fit into that category. 2) Why would he want to come here with all the negativity surrounding the program--both from the NCAA and the fan base.

I will move out of the state if Pelini gets the job. He has some serious anger issues and lacks the class that TOSU job needs.

Not sure about Dantonio at this point. I think Coach Fick needs some serious consideration. He has earned it.

[hspbuy1]

My guess at this moment would be either coach fickell or coach holtz!
jmo

[Salsa boy]

Mark Dantonio equals Earle Bruce. Do you guys that want him even WATCH his teams/results? They were hardly any better than a POOR Ohio State team.

There you go...... Bring Back Earle Bruce. He can still Coach and he can Bring John Cooper in as his offensive cord.:D

[Goldenrules]

If the Buckeyes win out...It will be Luke Fickell with a new 3 year deal...sorry fellas, just the facts of life.

[Hocus Pocus]

^^Urban Meyer to Penn State?

[Warpath_ejh]

I dunno. The NCAA is sitting there waiting for the legal system to run its course, and they might have to take action as well. There could be sanctions aginst the school too. I think it's a hot potato, worse than OSU. I don't hink so, but maybe.

Eric

[cwindian]

Still think Urban will be next OSU coach with Luke as assistant HC/ Def. Co./ Head Coach in waiting.

Penn St. may not even be playing football next season. They are way beyond SMU / Miami type of trouble.

[Hocus Pocus]

OSU got hit with another infraction end of last week. Failure to keep a "questionable/troublesome" booster away from the program. Pres. Gee issued a letter of reprimand to G.Smith. OSU volunteered 5 more scholarships for reduction (3 year duration?). OSU's hole is getting deeper...

[VegasEagle]

Looking more like its going to be Urban Meyer

[tigera]

If the Buckeyes win out...It will be Luke Fickell with a new 3 year deal...sorry fellas, just the facts of life.

Lol......another prediction gone awry. You're the kiss of death. Can you do me a favor and predict that I WON'T win the lottery tonight?? I can use the money.

Sounds like Urban all the way according to the radio.