Jonathan Alder Football

[japioneer]

How does Jonathan Alder look this coming year?

[DBfrom03]

Went to the scrimmage last night at Teas Valley. From what I saw, Alder, once again, has some great athletes. Among those great athletes they have a select few studs. Year after year this team has the tools to do big things. They just NEED to put the right players in the right positions. The fans and parents don't want to see another unproductive offense. I feel as if the community wants to see this team be successful by doing what works with the tools they have. The long passing routes with the quarterback running for his life year after year after year is getting old. The 160 pound I-backs running through a tight hole in the middle, only to be taken down by an arm tackle, is getting way way too old. On the bright side, we have another good-sized offensive line. We also have two powerbacks/linebackers that are easily recognized as two of their studs(Wrightsel and Parker). Wrightsel and Parker were all over the field making plays. I was very impressed by Wrightsel's one-handed interception. From what I said earlier about doing what works with the tools they have: Wrightsel and Parker are tools, PUT THEM TO USE. It would be complete stupidity to keep the ball out of Wrightsel's hands, especially when he has Parker in front of him. Not only is he a man amongst boys as far as strength, he will break away and out run the defensive backs. I'm excited to see this team in action if the studs go both ways The defense looked good. The alder tradition of swarming to the ball still exists. Change the scheme this year and win ball games by playing hard-nosed football.

[workshard]

Dude you make the playoffs every year. This post must have been a joke,

[DBfrom03]

Yes, we do make the playoffs every year. Being satisfied with a playoff streak when the talent can take you above and beyond that, is a loss! Alder has had several years where 11 games has been a huge disappointment. If Duke made it to the ncaa basketball tournament and lost in the first round, is that a good year? As a former player, our goals were not to go 7-3 and 8-2, get into the playoffs and lose. Is it unreasonable to want to see a program perform at its highest level possible? Ask the community if my post was a joke?

[workshard]

I understand what you are saying. It just seems like coaches who are consistent enough to when year after year are pretty good coaches. Try being a former power who can't win at all now.

[neers32]

Went to the scrimmage last night at Teas Valley. From what I saw, Alder, once again, has some great athletes. Among those great athletes they have a select few studs. Year after year this team has the tools to do big things. They just NEED to put the right players in the right positions. The fans and parents don't want to see another unproductive offense. I feel as if the community wants to see this team be successful by doing what works with the tools they have. The long passing routes with the quarterback running for his life year after year after year is getting old. The 160 pound I-backs running through a tight hole in the middle, only to be taken down by an arm tackle, is getting way way too old. On the bright side, we have another good-sized offensive line. We also have two powerbacks/linebackers that are easily recognized as two of their studs(Wrightsel and Parker). Wrightsel and Parker were all over the field making plays. I was very impressed by Wrightsel's one-handed interception. From what I said earlier about doing what works with the tools they have: Wrightsel and Parker are tools, PUT THEM TO USE. It would be complete stupidity to keep the ball out of Wrightsel's hands, especially when he has Parker in front of him. Not only is he a man amongst boys as far as strength, he will break away and out run the defensive backs. I'm excited to see this team in action if the studs go both ways The defense looked good. The alder tradition of swarming to the ball still exists. Change the scheme this year and win ball games by playing hard-nosed football.

I agree with some points in the post; Alder could benefit from playing some players both ways and Wrightsel is a M-A-N. The recent history of bad playoff losses is partially due to the team they are facing. They were simply out-manned by Coldwater (07 and 09) and Kettering Alter (10), but the loss to Oakwood in 2008 was somewhat embarrassing. The move to Div III is essentially null because Alter also moved. JA has to compete with high caliber teams like that in order to ascend into the upper echelon. I think expecting a regional title every year is a little too much right now. We should be happy that we have an annual playoff team with occasional (2004, 2006) powerhouses and teams that are "right there" (2010).

This year, Alder should fare well during the regular season again. All 10 games are winnable, though Watterson should be a VERY tough game. This senior class is very good!

[rhinoright]

how did ja's qb play? i know johnston was about 90% of thier offense last year.

[jjfan]

DB is right on the money! This is not about making the playoffs every year, this is about putting your team in a position to win every game, and that doesn't happen with your best players standing on the sideline watching half the game. We would have won numerous more playoff games and regular season games had we played our best kids both ways. You can develop your depth and give kids a blow by having a rotation, but to lose games when you know you didn't play your best team is not acceptable. By the way I think this 3-5 defense is not the way to play against high school teams that run the ball, and it certainy does not play to the JA strength and protect your two big linebackers that should and can make every tackle. Go back to a 50 and let those two be protected and they will fill and the hole and run people down to the sideline as well. Blitzing guys out of this defense are easy to block when I see them coming, and they see them because the linemen our uncovered and looking. The reason you play a 50 with this group is that it plays to your strength. Again you have some big guys you can rotate from the offensive line through the course of the game and clog the middle while protecting your LB's. This defense may be okay in passing situations, but with no pressure on the QB it is 7 on 7 and the offense seems to always score in these. If Alder is going anywhere some changes need to be made and made quickly. You play this type of defense when you have no talent and hope to confuse, that is not the case here. You play against running teams and in order to be a good defense you must stop the run first.

[ex_dc_atc]

I'm disappointed that JA was one of the teams that has left R16. They really added something nice to that region. Moving to R12 will be difficult with the size of schools they could ultimately face. No doubt JA is a playoff type team this season, it's a question of how deep they can go.

[Milwaukee12]

The Huddle preview has JA finishing 4th in Region 12. But, we all know how predictions go. I agree that your best players need to play most of the snaps. JA's defense was certainly better last year when they used Purdum. But, for some reason, JA has sacrified opportunities to win games by not playing its best players both ways. Every team they'll play will have 2-3 kids who won't leave the field.

[japioneer]

Agree, Your top football programs play their best players both ways. JA has not been out-manned by the teams that they have lost to in the past two years. Those teams were willing to do what it takes to win and they played their top players both ways. Your D-1 teams do. Just look at those teams. They are willing to run the ball just about every play. This is tough on your defense, controls the clock, and takes away plays from your offense.

[rhinoright]

coaches are trying to develope depth in scrimages and find out who can play at the varsity level. when kids go both ways you do lose some performance on both sides of the ball and when your going against a top flight program that is two platoon it's hard. i think you really have to pick your spots and get players breaks or they'll gas especially during early games. once they begin cramping, put a fork in them, their done.

[DBfrom03]

The bottom line is that this is high school football. The best players go both ways because they are the the best on the team in those two positions. Saving players for one side of the ball should be used at the collegiate level where there are 22 guys that are the best at their positions. This is D3 Ohio football, players don't specialize in one position on one side of the ball. Throw the SOFT attitude out the window, get the kids in shape and put the best team on the field at all times. It doesn't make sense to have Nick Wrightsel and Tyler Parker watching half of the game from the sidelines.

[oldviking]

DB i've been snooping your thread to see just how good you guys think JA is going to be...so i can judge Teays against that.
...and I couldn't agree more with every word of your last post.

[rhinoright]

where would play wrightsel and parker? if you think fb you'd be making a big mistake. I could possibly see on the offense line, but as a rb it would greatly take away their defensive performance.imo.does ja still open up with worthington and marysville their first two games?

[Monkey Man]

where would play wrightsel and parker? if you think fb you'd be making a big mistake. I could possibly see on the offense line, but as a rb it would greatly take away their defensive performance.imo.does ja still open up with worthington and marysville their first two games?

Yes, Marysville looked good against Coffman ran up and down the field, they destroyed Thomas Worthington earlier in the week. They have a BIG offensive line and a nice looking fullback & tailback combination. Should be a good game

[jjfan]

Parker FB and Wrightsel TB - this one is a no brainer and a must do. Everyone gets better when they are in. Mix in Holland and Nick Squires in the backfield or as wideouts. Snively both ways with Pollom and/or other big bodies at DT and play a 50 and get after people. Again you build your depth by mixing the rotation with some of the younger guys for a series here and there, but this isn't rocket science. I'm with DB again, all the good teams line them up on both sides in order to win big games. They owe it to the best kids to let them leave it all on the field, then we'll know who the best team was.

[DBfrom03]

jjfan apparently has watched and understands exactly how Jonathan Alder Football should be played. Out man the opponent at each phase of the game. Feature your studs, rotate the big men and use the playmakers (Squires and Holland). And yes not only is this the way to win games, but it is owed to the guys that work their butt off everyday for 4 years. I'm not sure if you have seen some of these seniors, but the hard work has payed off. If I were an 18 year old linebacker opposing Alder, I'm not real sure I would want to be shedding Parker's block and then attempting to wrap up the ball carrier, Wrightsel (who looks to be 220 pounds of rock).

[japioneer]

What about the defense that jjfan brings up?

[clorisleachman]

clippy clop..clippy clop.. We need kids going both ways.. I believe when we played coldwater a kid named HOMAN never left the field.. These kids are 16-18.. they can be tired when they start playing slow pitch softball. Back in the day.. when we didn't have enough players to PLATOON..
WE the best players never left the field.. Offense, Defense, Special Teams.

Coaching staff needs to MAN up, and play a handfull both ways..

[jjfan]

Yes, there were 5 of them from Coldwater that night! One big lineman and the backfield and wideouts were LB and Corners or safety. Nothing -nothing after two possessions, but I said after the first series when I saw their playmakers line up on both sides of the ball, that we were going to get our butts handed to us and we proceeded to get just that! Had we been doing the same thing - would have been a great game not a blowout!

[ex_dc_atc]

I just glanced at JA's schedule for the season, it looks brutal. When did they pick up games against Marysville and Watterson? Facing two lesser DI opponents, CM, Ironton, and now Watterson will make this a challenging season. Moving up to DIII and beefing up the schedule will be worth keeping an eye on all year long.

[rhinoright]

that schedule is flat nasty. if they can pull off a couple wins against those teams they'll be primed for a playoff run.

[japioneer]

Do you guys think the new style defense will put too much pressure on the L/B?

[jjfan]

Yes, that is the problem they will be in space which makes them easy to find/block or get in the way of if you are a blocker, or easily juked by a good runner versus being protected, then reading/filling, then tackling. It's a pass defense or junk defense when you have no talent, and we have talent and play against running teams. It may look fine until we play a good running team.

[clorisleachman]

Do you guys think the new style defense will put too much pressure on the L/B?

new style defense.. what happened.. did the coaching staff finally decide
that we can play our Big Offense lineman on the defensive line and that kids could actually play offense and defense in the same game against the same team. until I see the best 11 or 13 on the field on both sides of the ball it will be same ole stuff..

[CMorris_99]

Wow, you guys are rough on the old two platoon system. It wasn't that long ago that the two platoon system put you guys in the state finals. Maybe the coaches are trying to figure out if the guys they are playing are better going one way that some going both. After all no regular season games have been played and scrimmages are usually used to figure these things out.

[jjfan]

We have a lot of folks calling it the way they see it. Might you be reminded that Mooney had no problem playing their studs on both sides of the ball that day. Had we, that banner may have said State Champs.

[japioneer]

agree with jjfan, that year we had more than just a few studs. Trouble was, they only played on one side of the ball.

[neers32]

Wow, you guys are rough on the old two platoon system. It wasn't that long ago that the two platoon system put you guys in the state finals. Maybe the coaches are trying to figure out if the guys they are playing are better going one way that some going both. After all no regular season games have been played and scrimmages are usually used to figure these things out.

Alder's staff abandoned using players both ways in 2003 so I doubt that will change... I think Alder has underplayed their talent a bit, but we can't complain too much with all the success.

[neers32]

Yes, there were 5 of them from Coldwater that night! One big lineman and the backfield and wideouts were LB and Corners or safety. Nothing -nothing after two possessions, but I said after the first series when I saw their playmakers line up on both sides of the ball, that we were going to get our butts handed to us and we proceeded to get just that! Had we been doing the same thing - would have been a great game not a blowout!

I think Coldwater was going to dominate us no matter what that year. They were WAY better.

I agree that Alder could use their talent a little more effectively, but most of the playoff results would not have changed (Coldwater 2007, Alter 2009, 2010) because we were simply out-manned. Playing players both ways won't make up a ton of points, but it might get us more regular season wins and better playoff seeds.

[japioneer]

Okay, look at last night. What did you come away with?

[rhinoright]

i hope alder can get things going, i heard massie beat wilmington 84-o in their scrimage that's freshmen though varsity.

[Monkey Man]

Okay, look at last night. What did you come away with?

How did they do last night ?

[jjfan]

Can't take much away from last night! The defense didn't get tested as they created their own negative plays all night, same as last week versus TV. Offensively, the same for us! We have no option other than to play parker and wrightsel in the backfield. Can't have negative plays and fumbles and expect to beat any good teams! This team can play ahead of the chains all night and open the play book with them in the backfield! Defensively, some probably say we will swarm to the ball, but I'm afraid this defense let' s us swarm to ball after they have 5 yards! Just don't think this scheme makes sense for our personnel, nor to defend the teams we play, and far more importantly who you need to be prepared to beat in the playoffs.

[japioneer]

I thought the L/B were having trouble with the traffic and instead of going forward, they were back paddling. Also agree, too many negative plays on the offense. This is why we have trouble beating teams like Clinton Massie. Your negative turns into a positive due their ball control.

[jjfan]

Yes, and easy to block when they are easy to get to! That's why you have the big butts in front of them and ends turning everything in! We have two guys that can make every play so I am going to force them to beat me by beating these two! In this defense they aren't protected so not surprised they are backing up - not certain what they are supposed to do, but that would certainly make my earlier statement more likely that we'll be swarming, but after another 5 yard gain.

[clorisleachman]

I think Coldwater was going to dominate us no matter what that year. They were WAY better.

I agree that Alder could use their talent a little more effectively, but most of the playoff results would not have changed (Coldwater 2007, Alter 2009, 2010) because we were simply out-manned. Playing players both ways won't make up a ton of points, but it might get us more regular season wins and better playoff seeds.

i tend to disagree. I thought the 2009 Alter team pushed us around, last years team should have stomped alter.. 3 yards .. 4 yards.. 3 yards.. oh. dump pass. i'm just saying .. in the past ten years the platooning has been the reason for dominating sisters of the poor .. but you don't get past who's beatn us .. STATE CHAMPS.. mooney,coldwater, alter..

[japioneer]

Why do we platoon? It seem that we all agree that this does more harm then good. Why was the Defense changed? They had a great year last year.

[jjfan]

The two platoon leads to a lesser talent in a key position, which in the course of the game will create the negative plays that get you beat! Sure the lesser player may look good because we are superior overall in most games, therefore we begin to believe they are fine! Big game - negative plays show up in those spots and we go home with the big L! Another way to look at this,and is this fair to the kids that can and should play both ways! Tell me if Donnie Nickey would have ever been considered by OSU had he not played both ways? My guess is he would have gone to OU and played baseball and no football career? We really hurt the kids that have a chance to play in college aside from losing the big games!

Regards Neers comments for our losing - in 2009 we were outclassed no question - in 2007 versus Coldwater we were out coached - we had no idea what they were going to do next and where the ball was! Coach Reed was an offensive genius and I'm sure missed by the Coldwater faithful! He took good athletes and put them in a great scheme and he could beat mooney and Alter! Alter and Mooney beat us because they minimized negative plays and their systems beat us and they waited for us to beat ourselves.

[2002JAOline]

I am very excited to see how this season goes...really cant wait for the post season! I read alot of people on here bashing the 2 platoon system....honestly I agree. As a coach I dont care how many players I have on the sideline I have 22 spots to fill and the best in those spots will fill them. The goal is to win games not let everyone participate. Now as for the 3-5 defense...I dont like at all...unless you have the D-Line that pulls double teams every play. I have used the 3-5 before but mostly on passing downs when I felt our corners really needed the help. The problem with the 5-2 is you give the corners no help against a tight end. I love the 5-2, absolutly love it and was concerned my senior year when we switched to the 4-3. But the 4-3 worked and was effective. Hopefully what the coaches see is hey we have 3 great d-lineman and 2 guys between corner and LB and one that can play a good stand up DE but has a little speed to cover the flats. Me personally I would stick with the 4-3. The 3-5 just lend to the LB getting blown up.

I also see alot of talk about that Coldwater game....I wanted to play coldwater so bad when I was at Alder, I really felt that would have been an awesome game. I came home from NC just for that game and knew from the time Coldwater took the field to get warmed up that we were going to get our butts handed to us....those boys came to play that night and we acted like we were there to play Madison Plains or something.

When you dont platoon players you get them into a rythm. If you put the guys out there, they set the tone, and then you take them out you have now lost any momentum you thought you had.

GO ALDER!!!

[clorisleachman]

im just saying that.. mccarty and zordich.. homan didn't leave the field and we get beat.. maybe this year.. if parker, wrightsel, pollman don't leave the field to get a drink of water and a pat on the butt we might dominate a few GOOD TEAMS.

[b-ball00]

Been watching this thread from afar and you guys all seem like you should apply for the head coaching position with all of your knowledge. Its amazing Alder has ever won a game. By the way, the 3-3-5 has 8 men in the box as opposed to 7 with the 50. The 3-3 is designed to stop the run as you have removed a deep safety and added a middle backer to the 52. Both defenses leave the guards uncovered. I'm pretty sure if my memory serves me correctly, my Watterson Eagles and CCL brother Hartley both rode the defense to state titles a year ago. Looking forward to week 10 out in Plain City.

[clorisleachman]

a quote from Coach BUSHER the coach at WJ in the madison press.. you wonder why they win 5 straight msl title.. well it is the MSL.. and of course they have to beat THEPORT and BURNUNION..

""""“We have always played our best athletes on both sides of the ball and we will continue to do that,” Buescher said.

“We want our best players on the field at all times. Sometimes you’re taking a chance by doing that, but we want our best athletes out there.”""""

Best ATHLETES ... parker and wrightsel doesn't need to play 48 minutes... just 40..

[clorisleachman]

Been watching this thread from afar and you guys all seem like you should apply for the head coaching position with all of your knowledge. Its amazing Alder has ever won a game. By the way, the 3-3-5 has 8 men in the box as opposed to 7 with the 50. The 3-3 is designed to stop the run as you have removed a deep safety and added a middle backer to the 52. Both defenses leave the guards uncovered. I'm pretty sure if my memory serves me correctly, my Watterson Eagles and CCL brother Hartley both rode the defense to state titles a year ago. Looking forward to week 10 out in Plain City.

Defense wins titles. not at hartley they road that running back to to title.. hardlty gave up about 20.9 per game that's hardley a stoud defense

Watterson.. 3 shut outs and 5 teams held to 7 points.. now that's defense.

[ReadyKnightsFan]

easy region or not you still have to go through more than your region to win STATE.

[jjfan]

We can debate alignments all we want - I can put 8 in the box out of any of them - it's what is the best scheme based on the strenghts of my personnel and what/whom do I need to be able to stop. It may have worked fine for Watterson based on their personnel, it obviously didn't stop many people in Hartley's case. They rode a running back to a State Title not their defense.

[neers32]

Regards Neers comments for our losing - in 2009 we were outclassed no question - in 2007 versus Coldwater we were out coached - we had no idea what they were going to do next and where the ball was! Coach Reed was an offensive genius and I'm sure missed by the Coldwater faithful! He took good athletes and put them in a great scheme and he could beat mooney and Alter! Alter and Mooney beat us because they minimized negative plays and their systems beat us and they waited for us to beat ourselves.

Out coached 51-7 in 2007?

[jjfan]

The score was 43-14 in 2007 and yes they were better, but when you have multiple plays in a game where your defense doesn't even know who has the ball I would say the scheme is far beyond where we were, aside from their five studs playing both ways.

[rshanallan]

a quote from Coach BUSHER the coach at WJ in the madison press.. you wonder why they win 5 straight msl title.. well it is the MSL.. and of course they have to beat THEPORT and BURNUNION..

""""“We have always played our best athletes on both sides of the ball and we will continue to do that,” Buescher said.

“We want our best players on the field at all times. Sometimes you’re taking a chance by doing that, but we want our best athletes out there.”""""

Best ATHLETES ... parker and wrightsel doesn't need to play 48 minutes... just 40..

No one from west Jeff should even talk in this thread! Play Alder and then you can talk!

[rushrox]

rshanallan,

I beleive clorisleechman is an alder fan, he seems to enjoy bringing up the fact that West Jeff has to play Millersport and Berne Union, here and on a West Jeff thread.

[clorisleachman]

No one from west Jeff should even talk in this thread! Play Alder and then you can talk!

rfshanallan.. im just saying even West Jeff with their 8th grade education understands that you play your best players on both sides of the ball.

Then it's time at Alder with OUR 9th grade education to get it also..


really i'm just JJ with better hair..

[2002JAOline]

3-3-5 would not be good for Alder...it is a great wat to get your linebackers blown up. guards double team he nose and flow to a backer...and yes I could put my name in for a coach at Alder. As a lineman I would have loved to have heard "the defense we are going against is a 3-3-5...if I was at guard that would be a dream...

I would agree Alder needs to play the best 11 even if those 11 never leave the field...by the time the play-offs hit those boys going both ways will be machines.

Cloris you are one funny chick!!

[neers32]

3-3-5 would not be good for Alder...it is a great wat to get your linebackers blown up. guards double team he nose and flow to a backer...and yes I could put my name in for a coach at Alder. As a lineman I would have loved to have heard "the defense we are going against is a 3-3-5...if I was at guard that would be a dream...

I would agree Alder needs to play the best 11 even if those 11 never leave the field...by the time the play-offs hit those boys going both ways will be machines.

Cloris you are one funny chick!!

The 3-3-5 actually gives a lot of room to the linebackers/safeties... From a sound perspective there are some flaws (as with every defense), but linebackers getting "blown up" is not one of them.

[rhinoright]

alder probably needs to think about who they are playing the first three games it may be effective against a soft offense like worthington but marysville is a different story.

[Milwaukee12]

With all these comments, let's throw out some predictions. I say Alder goes 7-3 and makes the playoffs somewhere btween the 6-8 spot. I don't see a pushover game on the schedule. I think Worthington and Marysville will be a tough start to the season because JA is breaking in a new QB. Massie, Trace and London in a row on the road. Ironton and Courthouse at home. Not sure about Logan and Marion Harding. Watterson will be tough. I think Marysville, Ironton, and Watterson will be tough games to win unless JA is spot on in all phases. I know nothing about this team except I figured the defense would carry the load. Reading this thread makes me believe the offense better produce some points.

[2002JAOline]

I would also say 7-3 on the season, with Marysville, Ironton and Watterson being the possible tough losses just due to breaking in a new QB. Looking forward to getting to see the Ironton and Courthouse game this season.

[pdoubleop]

I would also say 7-3 on the season, with Marysville, Ironton and Watterson being the possible tough losses just due to breaking in a new QB. Looking forward to getting to see the Ironton and Courthouse game this season.

That might be 7-3 with losses to Marysville, Massie and Watterson. I'm not sold on Ironton yet.

[jjfan]

Would love to get excited about this team, but hard to when you look on both sides of the ball and see glaring weaknesses that could be filled by someone standing on the sidelines. The loss of two Seniors on defense for 5 games makes this new defense even weaker and the need to switch to a 50 with the big bodies back in the game. Agree with 2002JAOline - I was always told by the kids that those LB's are easy to get to and block when I am an uncovered on the Oline. I'm sure that is not supposed to be true in this scheme?

[neers32]

Would love to get excited about this team, but hard to when you look on both sides of the ball and see glaring weaknesses that could be filled by someone standing on the sidelines. The loss of two Seniors on defense for 5 games makes this new defense even weaker and the need to switch to a 50 with the big bodies back in the game. Agree with 2002JAOline - I was always told by the kids that those LB's are easy to get to and block when I am an uncovered on the Oline. I'm sure that is not supposed to be true in this scheme?

I am stunned by this post. Where do you see weaknesses that could be filled?

Everyone is going nuts because Alder switched to a 3-3-5, but I really haven't read a good reason why yet.

[ex_dc_atc]

That might be 7-3 with losses to Marysville, Massie and Watterson. I'm not sold on Ironton yet.

Those are my thoughts as well. Ironton won't be a push over. I'm not sure how 7-3 looks in R12.

[suffjo]

The London Red Raiders could regain the county this year; watch out;
Will beat the Riders and give Alder all they want.

[terrilhutch]

No one from west Jeff should even talk in this thread! Play Alder and then you can talk!

i think are freshman played your freshman last year and the score was 28 to 7 now do you want to talk or are you jealous because we now how to play football just member in the past all the years we beat you up:) but we seem to forget them years huh??????

[clorisleachman]

ever since you'd had to pay $1.00 to get on the huddle.. no smack talk, just wack talk.. brown and yellow.. kinda like what I left at the der this morning. red riders.. it's still lundon

Is Red and Black gonna get a win week 1.. the schedule is tuff. 4 D1 teams, Ironton, Watterson, Trace, Courthouse.. and LUNDUN

[2002JAOline]

I feel comfortable saying we will beat Massie...unless they have changed their style it will be our athletes against theirs.

1 more day!! GO ALDER

[rhinoright]

jaoline, i argree no way massie can replace four graduating seniors in the backfield. Alder rolls massie week 3.

[clorisleachman]

From the JJHUDDLE INSIDER..


*R-E-S-P-E-C-T…When Jonathan Alder advertised it had an opening for Week 10 this year, the Pioneers weren’t sure who they would hear from. The call was answered quickly. Steubenville, Youngstown Mooney and Columbus Watterson all inquired about filling the opening. Alder ultimately choose Watterson because of the regional match-up it presents.

[cm_backer]

jaoline, i argree no way massie can replace four graduating seniors in the backfield. Alder rolls massie week 3.

2003 - replaced all four backs, from a 9-1 that lost to JA in the playoffs, went 12-1 losing to Versailles in Reg. finals.
2007 - replaced all four backs from 9-1 team, including Cincy Bearcat Drew Frey, went 11-2 losing in ther regional finals, and beat JA along the way.
2008 - replaced all four backs from a 9-1 team, went 10-0 with a victory over JA.

Point is, we replace kids every year and still compete, just like JA. Week three will be the typical hard hitting game with the victor determined late in the game. Definately the toughest game on Massie's schedule year in and year out.

[japioneer]

What does it take to win this week? The Offense Must have some game control. This will help out the Defense!!!!!!!!!

[Milwaukee12]

JA 37-0 over TW. I left with 4 minutes left. Defense was outstanding and the offense had to have 400 yards.

[japioneer]

I liked the way they play their key players both ways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[neers32]

i think are freshman played your freshman last year and the score was 28 to 7 now do you want to talk or are you jealous because we now how to play football just member in the past all the years we beat you up:) but we seem to forget them years huh??????

We choose to forget some years. West Jeff chooses to forget the recent ones. Let it go, man.

[terrilhutch]

We choose to forget some years. West Jeff chooses to forget the recent ones. Let it go, man.

we dont forget any you let it go

[rhinoright]

sounds like all those na sayer's need to keep they're big fat pipes shut about the coaches not playing kids both ways and enjoy a win over a d1 opponent. goodluck next week marysville is going to be tough.

[Milwaukee12]

I thought the coaches did a nice job of balancing the number of plays the kids played. The Potts kid has some wheels when he decides to run straight ahead. Nice win and a great evening for football.

[terrilhutch]

ever since you'd had to pay $1.00 to get on the huddle.. no smack talk, just wack talk.. brown and yellow.. kinda like what I left at the der this morning. red riders.. it's still lundon

Is Red and Black gonna get a win week 1.. the schedule is tuff. 4 D1 teams, Ironton, Watterson, Trace, Courthouse.. and LUNDUN

talk about a eduaction its been brown and gold since day one lol

[rshanallan]

i think are freshman played your freshman last year and the score was 28 to 7 now do you want to talk or are you jealous because we now how to play football just member in the past all the years we beat you up:) but we seem to forget them years huh??????


yeah we did take our beatings! I remember them well. I played on first team to beat wj and it was a huge relief. Then the table turned and we started winning big, and then WJ quit playing alder. I dont count Pewee, 7th-8th-freshman or JV. Lets see what the future brings! WJ and Alder should play every year, just like OSU vs Michigan.

[clorisleachman]

rshanallan..

Pioneers have moved on from Brown and Yellow. the new Rivarly that needs to continue is going to be played this Friday Night Alder and Marysville.
Marysville is looking for payback after last years beating Alder put on them.

Alder and Marysville need to make sure this game continues, Alder and Brown and Yellow no need for that game to be even played..

Marysville trashed Marion Harding, it's gonna great game

[rhinoright]

wj will never let it happen, thier to proud. that's the reason they'll never beat the coldwater's or any of the mac schools. they play soft a schedule. ja's shedule is flat nasty and if they manage to make it in and that's a big if, they'll be ready to do damage in d3. imo

[Dbizzle71]

I will have to agree with some, WJ schedule is weak. Why would JA play a cupcake game against another Madison Co school. Alder's schedule makes WJ's look like my old pony league schedule back in the 80's......

[japioneer]

Well, how will we match up this week?

[ReadyKnightsFan]

Instead of bashing another respectable program, why aren't you guys talking about Alder 2011? As a Ready fan, you don't see me talking about how terrible a team Hartley is... Commend them on their successes or just ignore it and focus on your team. I come here to see how Alder is doing, not what Alder fans think of a sister school.

[terrilhutch]

Instead of bashing another respectable program, why aren't you guys talking about Alder 2011? As a Ready fan, you don't see me talking about how terrible a team Hartley is... Commend them on their successes or just ignore it and focus on your team. I come here to see how Alder is doing, not what Alder fans think of a sister school.

think you for that quote i have all the respect for a ready fan from the past