2011 Mid-State League (MSL) Buckeye [Archive]

cowboy22

05-01-2011, 09:11 PM

My two teams from the end of the last season have been Amanda and Canal. Irony is that one may not have a team and one currently has no coach.

If the LEVY fails this Tuesday, what will all the 'no' voters say when they show up in August expecting to see a football game? I hope it doesn't it get to that but time will tell.

bnace

05-01-2011, 09:25 PM

Even if it passes the cost will prohibit some from playing. We will have 1.5% earned income tax and then still have to fully fund our participation in sports. It is very sad for the community.

longballhitter

05-02-2011, 06:43 AM

BNACE, Sad indeed. What else will bring the community together? Without coming together, you have no comm-unity.............

Gz1up 2 Down

05-03-2011, 09:31 PM

Results:

YES 1,737 58% (X)
NO 1,248 42%

bman618

05-03-2011, 09:48 PM

Congrats to A-C.

Gz1up 2 Down

05-03-2011, 09:50 PM

Congrats to A-C.

Indeed. Though as previously stated, they aren't out of the hole yet. $500 for Friday Night Lights. That's pretty steep, imo.

bnace

05-03-2011, 10:26 PM

We are very happy about the results.

bman618

05-04-2011, 01:19 AM

Yeah it's not easy times, that's for sure.

longballhitter

05-04-2011, 06:51 AM

So happy to see those results. A victory for all of the MSL-B and especially for A-C. I hope they are celebrating in Stoutsville and Amanda.

Wheezer5

05-04-2011, 07:02 AM

Gz1up 2 Down

05-04-2011, 02:40 PM

Very happy to know AC will have athletics. I feel for the families having to pay $500 but think all school sports are heading in that direction. Will the school establish a fund for donations towards students unable to pay?

Probably not because there are probably athletes that'd love to play other sports that couldn't because the fees were too expensive in the first place, so everyone would want a piece of the pie.

aces_for_life

05-04-2011, 03:27 PM

Well, I am very happy we passed the levy, but am concerned about the pay to play cost and its impact to all the athletic programs. Fortunately it's not a problem for my family, however I know there are people in the community that will be challenged to come up with the money if it goes up to $400 or $500. I know my wife and I plan to get more involved in the athletic boosters to try to help with the fund raising to keep the cost as low as possible for all the kids. I am a firm believer in the value of high school sports for young men and women and hate that money has to be a deciding factor for any of them who want to participate. I do understand it, but don't like it any more than anyone else.

That said, in the spirit of JJHuddle and Amanda football, we will field a team and we will be atop the league next year. Plan on it. We are not the richest school or community in the league, but we have the richest tradition. And it will continue. I look for canal to be strong again next year regarless who the new coach is. They have some great Athletes in their program and very good numbers. It would be a coaches dream to take over that program right now. They will make some noise for sure.

Thanks to all the folks of AC who voted yes for our kids! It will be money well spent.

Gz1up 2 Down

05-04-2011, 04:18 PM

I Love Mac

05-11-2011, 10:07 PM

Amanda will be interesting next year. The school board is not bringing back the AD. They said the principal can handle all of it next year. No Assistant Principal and no AD at Amanda. Sounds like a train wreck about to happen. Who is going to make sure things get done? Who will paint the football field next year??? I have heard many coaches are considering not coming back to coach because they feel they need the support of a full time AD. So it sounds as if the board used sports to get the levy passed and will still stick it to them.

bnace

05-12-2011, 08:21 PM

I think they are already sticking it to us with the price!

Wheezer5

05-20-2011, 09:46 AM

ttt

ranger88

06-23-2011, 03:39 PM

Was told that the numbers are high for the upcoming season we will just have to Wait to see if that will turn into Win's .

crazyone

07-06-2011, 03:08 PM

I think that Teays wins this division and may go 6-4 7-3 8-2. They have a lot of juniors that played key roles as sophmores last year and finished 5-5. They could even make the playoffs. There oline-dline will be good, Qb 2nd year underbelt, good wrs, rbs, and defense looks strong. So looking forward to having the ship sale again

CviiLLe

07-07-2011, 10:32 AM

Teays will be tough, along with Canal and Amanda

green__n_gold76

07-11-2011, 12:16 AM

The Rangers will shock the world.

Zunardo

07-11-2011, 07:29 AM

Zunardo will be sampling visitors' concession stand wares and giving his approval to a select few.

buckdawg05

07-11-2011, 09:20 PM

Carroll is in the process of installing turf right now. As far as football, every year I wait for them to "turn the corner" and it never happens. Maybe they can keep a coach around for at least more than a few year this time. BC has never had a shortage of athletes and can even count a Super Bowl Champion among its former players. Probably another 3-7 season on the horizon. Maybe I'm wrong......

green__n_gold76

07-12-2011, 01:04 PM

Who's the Super Bowl champ?

Zunardo

07-12-2011, 08:50 PM

Max McGee went to Bloom Carroll?

84Indians

07-13-2011, 09:50 AM

Who's the Super Bowl champ?

Tom Crabtree, Tight End for the Packers.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/01/27/crabtree-basks-in-moment.html

oldviking

07-13-2011, 09:52 AM

I think he was referring to Crabtree kid for Bloom. Everyone's being hush-hush on the Huddle about the 2011 MSLB season? Does that mean teams are down? Not sure? or gonna be real good and just going to shock the world? (oh, cat's outta the bag GNG).

I think it's time to get this thing started? First comment is that I think 1-5 is probably the closest it's been in years, but if I had to put them into some order:

1./2. Teays Valley / Amanda
3./4. Canal / HTwp
5. LE
6./7./8. CV / BC / FU

oldviking

07-13-2011, 10:11 AM

Concessions - almost cut n paste my previous list.
Teays has great concession stand...great selection...cheap. home-made walking tacos with MEAT and good stuff (not chips and squirt some cheese - that's called a messy a** bag of soggy nacho's), and if you get there early enough they have chick fil-a sandwiches, and I've even seen Outback set up the bloomin onion stand before.
Amanda has it going on over there, too. Great cookout grub. didn't like the whole "get food ticket, get your pop here, food there". I think they worked that out, though.

Canal/Htwp - Nice, new big home concession, nothing special.
LE - drop on this list...maybe to 8?
FU - nice/ big/ fast but kinda far, but good half way point during hike to the bathrooms so you can stop on your way and your way back.
BC - could be 3rd? They get that french fry thing going and I think it just catapults them up the rankings, although I've never had a dry one. If it would just not rain for a TV-BC game one time....

crazyone

07-13-2011, 02:43 PM

camp has started this week for mslb. i was the camp the other day and teays looks good running that no huttle. they are going to be tuff. they have size and speed. Any thoughts of the teams that are going to make the playoffs this year out of the mslb.
My midstate league rankings
1a. Teays
1b. Canal
2.Hamilton
3. Amanda
4. Bloom
5. Circleville, Logan Elm, Fairfield dont no much about,

sparky_305

07-14-2011, 12:33 PM

Other than Amanda, no other team makes the playoffs this year. And if pay to play hurts there numbers, no go for them. Bloom, C-ville, Logan Elm, and Fairfield are five hundred records at best. Canal is a two loss team this year and maybe three, in the region there in that bumps them. Teays and Hami are 6-4 to 7-3 clubs but with the schools out of the cinci region, there going to need to have an 8-2 to 9-1 season to get in. Just my opinion. The way the regions lined out this year for region 12 is a bear. The teams that moved to this region have better non conf. schedules that they can win to score much needed points. I might go so far to say that a team could go 8-2 or 9-1from our league and not make the top 12 in that region.

oldviking

07-14-2011, 12:59 PM

teays, hammy and canal are now all in the same region I think. D2 R7.

Amanda would have to seriously trip up to not make it. I think they go deep this year.

sparky_305

07-14-2011, 01:28 PM

Yes sir you are right, my bad. I agree about Amanda, only pay to play will do them in, however region 7 is a bear to. I still stick with my statment 7-3 wont get you in and thats the best Teays or Hami will be this year.

84Indians

07-14-2011, 08:27 PM

Canal has St Charles (D1 now??) Grove City (D1) and Marion Franklin (D2) before starting league play. Tons of points there IF they can win some of these. Gotta start quick and beat St Charles. Grove City away then MF at home will be a real measuring stick. Last year I kept hearing they would start 0-3 but they could have beat St. Charles and then did beat Grove City ( I know they had some players missing ) and Westerville Central. Lots of athletes, whomever steps up at QB will be key.

Tired of the 9-1 may not get in talk, so far Canal has fared pretty well in getting to playoffs, just need to take the next step.

Go Indians.

Zunardo

07-15-2011, 12:41 AM

I still stick with my statment 7-3 wont get you in and thats the best Teays or Hami will be this year.

Wow, you went out on a limb there. :D

8 and 2 didn't get the Rangers in last year, and anyway, I never worry about playoffs until week 10 is over. Sufficient today is the evil thereof.

sparky_305

07-15-2011, 06:44 AM

Was not referring to region 7 about 9-1 that was region 12. I guess time will tell. Good luck to all.

crazyone

07-15-2011, 11:03 AM

I Think 7-3 can get you in the playoffs in Region 7 if teays beats both canal and hamilton. Them are big points by beating teams in your region. Same goes for canal and hamilton. Whos your guys choices to win the league this year.

oldviking

07-15-2011, 01:16 PM

7-3 will be very tough to break top 8 in R7. Teays was 5-5 and finished with Computer AVG of basically 10. Win 2 more games you will add about 11 to level 1 and say 40 to level 2...that's now about a 16.5 AVG.

Previous 10 years Playoff AVG for #8 team in R7 beginning with last year and going to 2001...20.05, 19.25, 16.89, 21.27, 20.15, 18.1, 17.45, 14.9, 15.4, 18.45.

I'd say 8-2 gives you a chance. 7-3 don't look good.

84Indians

07-15-2011, 01:58 PM

Prediction:

1 - CW
2 - Amanda
3 - Teays / Hamiltion Twp.

Others that could surprise:

CVille - Some good looking younger players coming up.

BC - Looking forward to new field.

FU - You never know with them, they have good numbers, maybe some new leadership would help.

sparky_305

07-15-2011, 02:08 PM

Quality wins outside the conference is what helps. If all teams in the league start 3-0 or 2-1 and beat quality teams that will win in there own conference, then you probably get four teams in. Dont see it happening though.

Zunardo

07-15-2011, 07:49 PM

Happened to be in the neighborhood today, and I swung by Bloom Carroll HS to see how the field is coming along. The subsurface is scraped bare, and you can almost smell the rubber pellets being ready for sweeping into that purple-and-gold carpet. I think the Bulldogs and their fans will be more than pumped up for their home games this season. Looking forward to seeing BC's and CW's new fields when I travel on the road in the next two months.

bman618

07-15-2011, 09:53 PM

CW
AC
TV/HT
LE
FU/CV
BC

Everyone has some questions, so it should be an exciting season ahead. There is a lot of potential, and a good start would help get 2-3 teams into the postseason instead of just one.

crazyone

07-17-2011, 06:08 PM

IF teays starts off 3-0 or 2-1 and the same for cw or ht since there in the same division they could make it in with a 7-3 record if they beat each other. if tv beats cw and ht and finishes 7-3 they have good chance to make it they will finish 8 or 9. I Think 2 maybe 3 teams will make playoffs this year. Tv looked good the other day at there 7on7 and the lineman looked good in the lineman challenge. Cant wait for the season to start.

dad4sports

07-18-2011, 12:23 PM

CW's early season schedule will make or break them......we'll know very early if the Indians will be a playoff contender again this season

green__n_gold76

07-18-2011, 02:05 PM

Who does Canal have this year? The Rangers open @Chillicothe. Chilli started slow last season, but got better as the season moved along and beat some fairly decent teams. They then have London and Bexly at home.

I think that the Rangers will be solid this season. They lost a lot of players who put up huge numbers, but I feel that their oline had much to do with that. Look for them to have a very strong line this season-maybe the best that they have had for many years. That's a good thing. Look for a more diversified offense.

dad4sports

07-18-2011, 02:26 PM

84Indians

07-18-2011, 04:37 PM

CW non-league:

St. Charles (H) D1
Grove City (A) D1
Marion Franklin (H) D2

Likely the underdog in all 3 of these. Would be awesome to win 2 of these. Has to be one of the toughest starts for any of the MSL teams.

green__n_gold76

07-18-2011, 05:04 PM

CW non-league:

St. Charles (H) D1
Grove City (A) D1
Marion Franklin (H) D2

Whoa! Hammy scrimmages MF St. Chucks is D1?

84Indians

07-19-2011, 07:47 AM

St Charles moved to D1 this year.

Last year CW started with St. Charles (loss), Grove City (Win) and Westerville Central (Win) so that was D2, D1, D1.

Coach Mauro really believed in playing the bigger schools in the non-league part of the season to raise up your program.

Go Indians. Day 2 of camp today, another steamer.

crazyone

07-19-2011, 12:49 PM

can anyone post some pictures of the bloom carrol field and is it true teays is getting turf next year. Teays looks good in camp so far this season. They have a 7 on 7 this Thursday.

CviiLLe

07-19-2011, 01:33 PM

How will Hamilton look without the key athletes they had last year? (#20, #4, #5)

green__n_gold76

07-19-2011, 03:50 PM

It seems like Hamilton always has good athletes at the "skilled" positions and we saw what they can do last season when they get support up front.

There were some good players waiting in the wings last year, but with the guys you mentioned having such good season, they couldn't get much playing time.

Those three guys you mentioned had very little or no varsity football experience until last season. #20 only played 1 1/2 games as a junior, and the QB didn't play at all his junior year-he had never taken a snap in a varsity game. #4 played QB his junior year and was injured and missed much of the season. #5 had no one to throw to him his jr season and ended up playing QB himself.

I don't know that they will put up the numbers they did last season, but I expect them to be competitive, and then some.

Zunardo

07-19-2011, 08:16 PM

Teays Valley getting turf? Wow, that would be half of the MSL Buckeye.

If we're not careful, soon all 8 schools will be turfed, and then we'll be saddled with the reputation of being a league consisting of nothing but well-to-do schools that are farm systems for MBA colleges, and then ya got trouble, my friend, right here in Hillbille Farmville City .........

green__n_gold76

07-19-2011, 09:05 PM

ESPN will be all over it. They've always had a vendetta against the MSL Buckeye.

crazyone

07-20-2011, 12:22 AM

well canal and hamiltonare city schools so their not hillbilly lol. but im not sure if teays is getting turf i just herd from a few kids and parents they were, the stadium is paid off and its cheaper to take care of and wont be a mess if soccer plays on it the week of a home football game if its nasty weather. teays is making every kid play 50 per sport this year to play. money goes to the refs. Can anyone back this information up about the turf at teays ill check more into it. well back to the football.
Teays is looking a lot bigger than last year they look fast and strong. they have that no huddle offense and it looks smooth in camp. they are young as wel most are juniors only like 5 or 6 seniors that are key roles. There line looks big and the skill positions look great and there quarterback is a junior and started all the games last year as a soph. Teays will win the league this year and next year. Any photos of bloom carrol yet from anyone post soon

rick_dangerous

07-20-2011, 06:46 AM

Lol... Hamilton and canal being city schools is news to me. Pretty sure they are both still their own school systems.

Zunardo

07-20-2011, 06:52 AM

ESPN will be all over it. They've always had a vendetta against the MSL Buckeye.

I read this while taking a sip of my coffee ..... big mistake ...... :D

aces_for_life

07-20-2011, 07:10 AM

Wheezer5

07-20-2011, 08:00 AM

I think the rumor about TV getting turf is nothing but rumor. The district won't pay for turf and the Booster Club just got out from under the stadium debt so they're not going to jump back into a huge debt. I personally don't want to see turf. If it's raining, they play in the mud.
I'm looking forward to an improved Viking team this year but I'm not ready to predict a league title. If they're healthy, and this is key, they should do well and have a shot at the league title. Too many question marks right with injuries.

oldviking

07-20-2011, 10:53 AM

green__n_gold76

07-20-2011, 11:59 AM

Nuthin' but pure lies on the street...

Zunardo?

http://www.hamilton-local.k12.oh.us/Downloads/Hillerich%20bio%20website.pdf

Zunardo

07-20-2011, 12:13 PM

I got nothin' - but then, I'm the last person to find out anything.

crazyone

07-20-2011, 01:19 PM

well the boosters are under new management for the past 3 years. They owed $120,000 and paid it off in 2 years. They could have the tuf paid off soon. It would be nice to see them have it, but it is what it is. On the statement about cw and ht being city schools, i was meaning they were located in the city. I still think that teays is the best team in the league this year but you are right about injuries, hopefully they stay healthy and if so they win league.

Zunardo

07-20-2011, 01:57 PM

"City" is only technically correct for the fraction of Hamilton Twp district residents who live technically within the city limits of Columbus. However, the vast majority live in Hamilton Township, or the four villages of Lockbourne, Obetz, Reese, and Shadeville.

The schools themselves are located within islands of property officially designated as the village of Obetz, but it would be more sensible to say they are in the township of Hamilton. When you can look out the window of any of our school buildings and see tractors harvesting corn and soybeans across the street, it really isn't "city". Maybe someone will come up with a synonym that describes a melding of rural/industrial park. :)

P.S. You used to be able to see cows outside the windows, but one local farmer told me everyone got out of livestock a few years ago when market prices went porkbelly-down, and they all switched to crop farming.

well the boosters are under new management for the past 3 years. They owed $120,000 and paid it off in 2 years. They could have the tuf paid off soon.

It's definitely feasible, also businesses might be amenable to help fund for a little advertising. I think Teays Valley is pretty well-positioned right now in that regard. I hope things come thru for you.

bribacker51

07-20-2011, 03:27 PM

turf is rumor. not happening.
wheezer is right...and I agree with pretty much the entire post.
Speaking of rumors, though...word on the street is Hamilton Twp coach left? Any story to this at all, or just pure lies.

Not true I talked to the coach today he plan's to stay put for a long time but they did have 2 asst. from last season that are not back so that maybe how it got started.

green__n_gold76

07-20-2011, 04:17 PM

Who's not back? I hear they picked up a running back coach that came here from Canal.

Coach Hillerich is not an alum, but his dad is so he does have some green and gold in his veins.

oldviking

07-20-2011, 04:18 PM

Probably right. Probably talking about one of those ass't. As casually as I heard it, it was believable.
Just asking about something I'd heard. That's why you gotta keep them kids off the streets...nothin but lies out there. lol.

bnace

07-20-2011, 05:18 PM

Who considers what a city just depend on where you are from. LOL

crazyone

07-20-2011, 05:50 PM

Well im from commercial point and I consider that country not hamilton. But you are right its more country than other city schools. Old viking are you talking about Teays valley coaches or hamilton. I herd another kid today swimming before camp they may be getting turf next year at Teays, but kids will be kids. It would look great with a blue and gold endzone or make it blue turf like boise state lol. Who does Teays scrimmage this year

jjoneswtwp

07-21-2011, 11:57 AM

oldviking

07-21-2011, 12:58 PM

Teays scrimmages Jonathan Alder and Big Walnut. I think also have scrimmage/practice with Academy (and I assume that's Columbus Academy) during 2-a-days one day.
Hamilton had about 8 or 9 very good players last year, and I think lost them all to graduation. I think they'll compete, don't think they'll be AS GOOD as last year's team.

crazyone

07-21-2011, 08:52 PM

Bad news for teays valley starting qb is out 8-10 weeks broken hand. 7 on 7 today was ok the line looked impressive. The defense looked good as well. The qb situation is kind of scary but they have plenty of time to figure it out.

natural095

07-21-2011, 09:00 PM

How can the line look impressive during a 7v7??? Any news on F.U or B.C camps? I heard that Canal started camp this week and has looked fast.

dad4sports

07-22-2011, 02:22 PM

How can the line look impressive during a 7v7??? Any news on F.U or B.C camps? I heard that Canal started camp this week and has looked fast.

CW should have speed to burn......the issue is whether they can replace all the graduating offensive firepower? They lost a lot from last year's squad that set numerous offensive school records.

oldviking

07-22-2011, 03:13 PM

I dunno? how do you look fast? are you blurry? do you emit benny hill music as you run around each other?

The answer is that many of the 7on7's now include linemen to do physical competitions (like strongman contests).

And I heard 3 weeks (from a week ago) and it was a finger?

But, you know how the streets are full of lies.

TV1985

07-22-2011, 04:08 PM

Old Viking - you were "blurry fast" back in our younger days. As far as CW, I'm not sure that you replace Phil Mauro and everything stays the way that it has been for the past 4 years. Replacing the coach is much tougher than any of the players that graduated.

gr8br10

07-22-2011, 10:39 PM

Hamilton should be tough again this year. They lost some studs last year from both backfields but their strength this year will definiteky be their lines. They got some big strong kids who are becoming quite athletic. Watch Caleb Brown at DE/OLB, he will be a force!

I agree Caleb Brown is a stand out for Hamilton TWP. Just watched his video on scouting ohio and the young man has game. Looking forward to watching a couple of HT games this year. Good Luck Rangers!

crazyone

07-23-2011, 02:42 PM

oldviking he broke his hand and had surgery on it a few days ago. I still think that tv will be good hopefully mullens comes back after week 2 and doesnt miss a beat. Any news on how tv did on the 7on7 on today.

crazyone

07-26-2011, 12:32 PM

so does anyone have photos/news on blooms field. So how did everyones camp go any injury updates and can august 26 get here any faster.

84Indians

07-26-2011, 02:47 PM

so does anyone have photos/news on blooms field. So how did everyones camp go any injury updates and can august 26 get here any faster.

I was headed to Carroll for Pizza Saturday night ( Shirkey's Pizza is awesome ) and drove over to see the field. The gravel/base looks about done. The Carpet has arrived and is lying in rolls close by. The big seaming machine is out on the field at the ready. Looks like they will have some carpet laid this week. Then all the inlays get seamed in and the rubber pellets will go down.

I watched the process when they did it at CW, with decent weather they should be ready to roll in mid August I imagine. I may be down that way this weekend, I'll try to snap some pics. Purple and Mustard yellow should look nice.

crazyone

07-27-2011, 11:51 PM

any one have any updates on there teams camp/injuries/etc. We are a month away from the season starting. "Can't wait" (Bart Scott)

crazyone

08-02-2011, 12:47 AM

so whats going on midstate leaguers. how are the kids dealing with the first days of 2adays... any news on blooms field and any pictures. any injury updates or how are the teams looking. Teays isnt looking to bad so far, they are improving everyday as probably every team is. I think this will be a good season for the blue and gold

green__n_gold76

08-02-2011, 09:31 PM

Everyone has lost interest since we found out that Teays Valley has the championship wrapped up.

crazyone

08-02-2011, 10:22 PM

im not saying they have it wrapped up im just saying they have a great chance becasue they have a lot of starters back 10 on offense and 7 on defense, they have great speed and size. quarterback mullens is out of cast and could be ready for start of season.

Zunardo

08-03-2011, 07:14 AM

Everyone has lost interest since we found out that Teays Valley has the championship wrapped up.

... &$##(*! ..........Make that three coffees you owe me.

crazyone

08-03-2011, 11:33 AM

well this is a forum and you base your opinion on it so thats what i did. 84indians do you have pictures of bloom and there is no bloom Fans on this chat, where you guys at. Any update on amanda and how many kids are showing up.

aces_for_life

08-03-2011, 12:33 PM

My son guessed at roughly 60 kids showing up for 2-a-days at Amanda. All of the "projected" starters are there, no surprises. Should be a good year.

achsdad2012

08-03-2011, 09:10 PM

bman618

08-03-2011, 09:33 PM

Canal has to fulfill the two-year contract they recently signed with the MSL. Canal's last year in the league will be the 2012-13 school year. Canal's first year in the OCC will be the 2013-14 school year.

bman618

08-03-2011, 09:34 PM

If anyone has a pic of Bloom-Carroll's field, it'd be interesting to see it.

dad4sports

08-03-2011, 11:16 PM

84 Indy , Lancaster Eagle Gazette is reporting that canal is leaving The MSL to go to OCC And that this will be the last year Amanda can redeem itself against what will be a div 1 school next year. Have you heard the same.

CW football is right in the middle of the D2 classification.....so it will stay D2 for the next 2 years.......and if I had to wager, for the 2 years after that. Here is a link to the Dispatch article on the move to the OCC

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2011/08/02/canal-set-to-replace-watkins-in-occ.html

oldviking

08-04-2011, 10:01 AM

Can't move to D1 next year. The enrollments are for 2 years. If I had to bet, I'd say very high D2 in 2013, but 1) you get up near cutoff and you never know what happens to the line from census to census - could move up or down 20 or 30 kids? and 2) I've heard enrollment in lower grades are huge and it's coming the next one for sure. (D1)

I don't think admin pushes the OCC thing if they dont know this.

I said in the other thread...IMHO, I think Canal made a mistake. There's way too many Lowe's, no more "smith hardware's". I think the fights should be to go the other way.

dad4sports

08-04-2011, 12:44 PM

I said in the other thread...IMHO, I think Canal made a mistake. There's way too many Lowe's, no more "smith hardware's". I think the fights should be to go the other way.

I hear you. It may be a couple years too early to make the switch. However, it's much better to make a move a bit too soon rather than too late. Plus, who knows if the opportunity would have been there in a couple of years? I think the opportunity was too good to pass up. This positions the Indians for the next 10-15 years. I can't fault that thinking.....

84Indians

08-04-2011, 05:13 PM

BC's new field 8/4/2011. The base turf is down. Assume now they will inlay the endzone logos, yard lines, and midfield logo assuming they have one. I'll try to get better pics this weekend. It was all locked up at 5:00 today so I couldn't go in and get a pic from the bleachers.

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Central OH/FAN

08-04-2011, 10:40 PM

is 60 kids for Amanda normal? I always thought they had 75 to 90 kids on the side lines for each game? What is the "Pay To Play Cost" was it 500.00 as reported at the begginig of this thred? Who is the head Coach for Canal now?
Everyone seems to think Logan Elm is out of it. They may supprise you.

aces_for_life

08-05-2011, 08:13 AM

bman618

08-05-2011, 11:35 AM

Nice job on the pics 84.

84Indians

08-05-2011, 01:08 PM

60 is a little low for Amanda, I think last year we had 68 or 69. I can remember as many as 80 kids a couple years in the past but not every year and I don't ever remember 90. But the fact is, the pay-to-play has had an impact on the numbers for sure. The Pay-to-play is $300 this year.

Is the 60 kids counting freshman? CW has over 100 counting Frosh. Pay to play isn't due for a couple weeks though.....:eek:

ejog

08-05-2011, 02:23 PM

I was told 46 kids, including freshman for the Ace.

creeksider

08-05-2011, 05:43 PM

Is the 60 kids counting freshman? CW has over 100 counting Frosh. Pay to play isn't due for a couple weeks though.....:eek:

They SHOULD have that many....they are D2,duh.:rolleyes:

bnace

08-05-2011, 06:09 PM

There are 13 or 14 Seniors and it looks about the same for each class so my guess is 60 including freshman. The pay to participate does have an impact on numbers, it is too bad because it is such a great experience for the kids.

84Indians

08-06-2011, 04:23 PM

They SHOULD have that many....they are D2,duh.:rolleyes:

Well, Pay to Play went to 300 at CW also. Will be interesting how many will skip due to that just like Amanda. Just saying if it is 46 that is a pretty big drop that I don't think CW is seeing but I haven't counted them, just a judgement from my kid. They do have a bezillion freshman... Will see next week when they have a scrimmage.

crazyone

08-07-2011, 10:33 AM

Teays valley pays 50 per sport, they do it to cover the refs pay. So who is everybody scrimmaging this friday

bman618

08-07-2011, 10:43 AM

The scrimmages are mixed on Friday and Saturday and some schools have two next week. Remember, the OHSAA allows for three scrimmages nows, including the Jamboree Game.

Circleville is home against Zane Trace on Wednesday and at Logan on Friday.
Logan Elm is at home against West Jeff on Saturday.
TV hosts Academy Tuesday and Jonathan Alder Friday.

Zunardo

08-07-2011, 12:58 PM

Hamilton Twp is hosting Franklin Heights this Tuesday, and Marion Franklin on Friday.

84Indians

08-07-2011, 01:52 PM

CW is hosting New Albany and Olentangy Liberty Friday then Newark the next Thursday.

bribacker51

08-07-2011, 03:58 PM

Hamilton Twp is hosting Franklin Heights this Tuesday, and Marion Franklin on Friday.
With Licking Valley next week and all are at home my gas tank thanks the coachs cant wait should be fun.

green__n_gold76

08-07-2011, 08:43 PM

So how's the team (Hamilton) shaping up? Who's going to be the signal caller? It seems that mum's the word when it comes to this year's team.

I plan on watching them scrimmage Tuesday AM..

bribacker51

08-08-2011, 09:35 AM

Its hard to tell right now they have moved the boys around alot but the numbers are great with over 90 still on the team and a great freshman class that has a ton of speed a few of them did not play 8th grade last year but there skill is hard to over look.

rick_dangerous

08-08-2011, 10:43 AM

Over 90? When was the last time Hamilton had numbers like this? Seems like coach is on to something special out there.

green__n_gold76

08-08-2011, 02:08 PM

My guess is never.

Zunardo

08-08-2011, 04:31 PM

Wow - like Green_n_Gold76 said, I don't recall having that many before. Great to hear!

I know are numbers are over 100 for the marching band this year with that great incoming freshmen class. :)

livmoore

08-08-2011, 05:08 PM

How is the Taylor boy looking for Teays Valley? He is very fast and if he is back at 100% watch out.

bribacker51

08-08-2011, 08:15 PM

Wow - like Green_n_Gold76 said, I don't recall having that many before. Great to hear!

I know are numbers are over 100 for the marching band this year with that great incoming freshmen class. :)

The coachs are very good at getting and keeping the kids we started with 103 and have been able to keep most they put in alot of fun things to keep the kids talking about football and it is really paying off we have a bright future if it keeps up.

green__n_gold76

08-08-2011, 09:15 PM

90 in football, 130 or so in band and color guard...cheerleaders...that's a pretty good chunk of the student body involved on Friday nights. That's GREAT to hear.

oldviking

08-09-2011, 11:49 AM

any reports on the scrimmages today?

bribacker51

08-10-2011, 07:53 AM

any reports on the scrimmages today?

Hamilton looked good they were moving the ball pretty well and the D looked great I think overall the coachs had to be happy with what the kids did but they will know alot more about how good there team is after Saturday when they take on Marion Franklin.

oldviking

08-10-2011, 08:07 AM

Nice. I just want to see some football talk. yes, MF will let you know where you're at. They're a top R7 team. Too bad GnG ran everyone else off that would have any comment or opinion about anyone in the MSL besides HTwp. This was shaping up to be a good thread.

dad4sports

08-10-2011, 08:12 AM

Teays Valley preview.......Dispatch online

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/sports/2011/08/10/0810-goin-camping-teays-valley.html

oldviking

08-10-2011, 08:39 AM

CW is hosting New Albany and Olentangy Liberty Friday then Newark the next Thursday.

nice work Dad.(as usual). Nice article. interesting.

So just clarifying...CW is hosting both NA AND Ole Lib on Friday? Then what time next Thursday (also hosting Newark...correct?)

LE has been quiet on here, so saturday, LE might be the place to be to see what Bart's cookin up down there. I said before with Vagnier and Thompson being sr's (finally), LE could surprise in the MSL?

And what time is CVille scrimmage today?

crazyone

08-10-2011, 10:22 AM

Teays valley didnt have schiff or mullens for the scrimmage vs columbus academy. I think mullens and schiff will be back this friday to play in the scrimmage. Looking forward to see how they look this week against JA.

green__n_gold76

08-10-2011, 10:26 AM

Too bad GnG ran everyone else off that would have any comment or opinion about anyone in the MSL besides HTwp.

I'll just assume that you're not serious so that I can hang on to my last little sliver of sanity.

oldviking

08-10-2011, 11:29 AM

what? you couldn't tell? you didn't LMHO? Zunardo didn't spit his coffee?

Zunardo

08-10-2011, 11:46 AM

Too bad GnG ran everyone else off that would have any comment or opinion about anyone in the MSL besides HTwp. This was shaping up to be a good thread.

Don't take it so serious. You've got to learn to appreciate that big-city sense of humor.

By the way, it has never stopped being a good thread - and it's gonna be a great season.

green__n_gold76

08-10-2011, 12:18 PM

I would like to see the league send out Canal good and proper. No offense to you Canal folks.

Yep Zunardo, it's going to be a good one.

oldviking

08-10-2011, 12:47 PM

oh, i was just ribbing you guys about the cheap shot and piling on you gave crazyone. Everyone knows Teays has no chance to win the league...no one can beat HTWP this year? LOL. (now, THAT'S funny! I don't care who you are)

dad4sports

08-10-2011, 01:02 PM

I would like to see the league send out Canal good and proper. No offense to you Canal folks.

This season or next season?? Both? :)

green__n_gold76

08-10-2011, 01:13 PM

Both, but probably neither. Hammy hasn't beat Canal since 2004.

green__n_gold76

08-10-2011, 01:25 PM

Crazyone said that Teays WILL win the league this year and next. That was the only bold prediction that I heard. Hamilton folks made no such claims.

Who knows, though, maybe locouno is right. They had a young team last season and a lot of players are coming back.

As for the Rangers, the only league team to beat them last season was Canal, and the only other teams to play them close was Circleville and Amanda. But, like they say, that was then and this is not then.

84Indians

08-10-2011, 02:04 PM

So just clarifying...CW is hosting both NA AND Ole Lib on Friday? Then what time next Thursday (also hosting Newark...correct?)

To Clarify Canal's Scrimmages:

Friday, August 12 – JV/Varsity Scrimmage vs New Albany & Olentangy Liberty 10:00am Home

Thursday, August 18 – JV/Varsity Scrimmage vs Newark 6:00 pm Home

dad4sports

08-10-2011, 02:32 PM

You're on to something......

Locouno just sounds better to me!!

oldviking

08-10-2011, 02:46 PM

Thanks 84.
Actually, I think it's el loco? Not sure how or why. I'm sure we have another 40-50 years before we are all going to have to speak spanish anyway.

Zunardo

08-10-2011, 09:17 PM

what? you couldn't tell? you didn't LMHO? Zunardo didn't spit his coffee?

Geez, I'm going to have to put my cup down when I'm reading this thread. Now you're talkin' - and you owe me a mocha cappucino when we travel to Ashville in 2012. ;)

creeksider

08-11-2011, 09:40 AM

There he goes with another mention of mocha cappuccino.

green__n_gold76

08-11-2011, 09:59 AM

Mocha cappuccino.

Zunardo

08-11-2011, 11:06 AM

Ah, it's nice to see everyone happy again. :)

Very nice Dispatch article on TV, my thanks also to dad4sports for the link.

oldviking

08-11-2011, 01:36 PM

Any reports on Circleville from yesterday? what time do LE and Amanda each scrimmage saturday? supposed to storm saturday and sunday?

ranger88

08-11-2011, 08:14 PM

I like French vanilla cappuccino .

bnace

08-11-2011, 08:27 PM

Amanda Saturday at 10am - Home

CHICKENHEART

08-11-2011, 08:42 PM

Logan Elm Saturday 10:00 home against West Jefferson

crazyone

08-11-2011, 11:28 PM

teays valley will be with out schiff and mullens this friday. Betts was running the offense in practice today and looked good. tomorrow hopefully they put it all together

dad4sports

08-12-2011, 12:33 PM

Canal Winchester scrimmage....along with New Albany & Olentangy Liberty. The Indians have some work to do. The defense had a rough day. With the exception of one series, the NA offense shredded the CW defense. The Indians held up better against OL, but the Patriots were still able to occasionly find holes and put the ball in the end zone. All 3 teams' offenses had pretty good days.

The CW offense fared better than the defense. It looks like there is still a QB competition going on to replace Drew Black. For the most part Fox was off & on.....the other QB (Peiffer?) had his good moments too but also had a few mental mistakes. The CW passing game looked pretty good, but the ground game was hot & cold. CW lost a lot to graduation, but it appears the cupboard is not bare.....many athletes on the field for the Indians. It will be interesting to gauge the improvement when they scrimmage Newark next Thursday. CW seemed to have quite a few kids that were not dressed.....injuries, paper-work problems? I don't know.

All in all, I'm guessing the coaches will find plenty of "teaching points" when they see the films. The competition was top notch.....two fine programs in NA and OL to start things off with. New Albany looks like they have a chance to be very good by season's end.

Zunardo

08-12-2011, 08:43 PM

Well, I goofed - apparently Marion Franklin is at Hamilton Twp tomorrow (Saturday), not today as I previously posted. Go Rangers!

bribacker51

08-12-2011, 08:59 PM

Well, I goofed - apparently Marion Franklin is at Hamilton Twp tomorrow (Saturday), not today as I previously posted. Go Rangers!

They just changed it this week it had been set up for Friday but luckly they moved it I think there will be a good turnout for it I know we have seen Marion Franklin at 7 on 7's a few times the last two years and the kids seem to get fired up for each other and talk a little smack so I am really looking forward to a full contact matchup.

crazyone

08-13-2011, 01:28 PM

I sit on the ja side last night to listen what the parents were saying about them and they were saying ja is a playoff team this year. Teays score twice and ja scored 3 times. Teays was with out mullens and schiff. They looked real good at times but then looked sloppy some, even though they kept changing qbs so really never got rythm.

wu51

08-13-2011, 02:49 PM

Any word on the MF v.s. HT scrimmage? how did the boys look?

DOUGER

08-13-2011, 03:29 PM

It looked a little lopsided at the beginning with Marion Franklin looking really good with the scrimmages they were doing early. Later on as they loosened up some Hamilton did well considering the caliber opponent they were facing, hung right in there with him matching drives.

After I left they had a 2 quarter game scenario scrimmage from what I heard and it ended at 14-7 MF. With MF scoring in the final minutes of the scrimmage. All in all I feel pretty good about it. If we can hang with MF and they are as good as they are billed to be then it should be a very good year for Ranger football!

wu51

08-13-2011, 03:35 PM

thanks for the info..

ht_1980

08-13-2011, 09:21 PM

bribacker51

08-14-2011, 10:27 AM

Second touchdown was against the JV vs JV . First team score was 7-7 after the first quarter Hamilton started off slow but when they played a 10 min quarter defense made them go four and out Hammy drove down and scored. Watch out for Crum , for a sophomore he was the most impressive kid I seen the kid played like a man I think we will be in for a good season if we keep up that intensity... Good luck guys on the upcoming season....

I agree about Crum the kid is a beast that has skill the team has alot more talent then many thought after the SR's we lost last year we should be in every game and have a chance to win.
Really looking forward to Friday with Licking Valley to see there improvement as kids settle into spots and will not be moved as much.

DOUGER

08-14-2011, 11:17 AM

I'm stoked! Best thing about the summer winding down is football! Gonna make every game this year if possible, only missed two away games last season.

I sent an email in to be a score reporter for the huddle. Said Hamilton needed one or maybe they meant Hamilton, Ohio. We'll see I guess.

84Indians

08-15-2011, 02:44 PM

To Clarify Canal's Scrimmages:

Friday, August 12 – JV/Varsity Scrimmage vs New Albany & Olentangy Liberty 10:00am Home

Thursday, August 18 – JV/Varsity Scrimmage vs Newark 6:00 pm Home

Heard today that Newark starts school on the 18th so they pushed the start time back. The Freshman will scrimmage at 5:30 and Varsity/JV starting at 7:00 at CWHS.

oldviking

08-16-2011, 09:46 AM

Teays looked "good" against JA. Not great, but good. Offense was dull, but starting QB wasnt back yet, so it was vanilla, and JA had a pretty good defense. TV Defense actually looked "good +". (no one scored when it was 1's vs 1's - I would classify any other scoring after that as "who cares").
TV kicker (verballed to Air Force) can boot it. I think he made about a 52 yard (spot). Couldn't see exactly where ball was? That is a weapon for sure.
I give the overall performance edge to JA. They moved the ball more than Teays and defense flew around nice (and were BIG).
JA has a HUGE line, and a lot of nice athletes. They will win a lot of games.
Teays will be tested again this week at Big Walnut. Another HUGE line. Another good "program". I've heard TV QB will be back.
Sounds like Canal and HTWP are looking good. I'm hoping to be at canal thursday. I've heard LE dominated both scrimmages so far. I've heard Circleville hasn't. They are both being hush-hush about it on here, so I believe both accounts.
Haven't really heard anything about BC? Curious if the new field got the program amped up at all?
Haven't heard anything from Westfall since the full contact scrimmages. heard they looked good 7 on 7? different sport.
Never any shortage on Amanda information! lol.

creeksider

08-16-2011, 10:21 AM

Where are you seeing an abundance of Amanda information? I heard LE looked like crap against West Jefferson. I also heard Canal didn't look so good. See how the 'I heard' stuff works? None of it matters until week 1 is over.

oldviking

08-16-2011, 11:20 AM

Gee, I don't know....maybe on the 8 pages of this thread, or the 77 posts on the "AMANDA CLEARCREEK 2011" thread, or the "AC vs Hartley - Week 1 " thread? I could start a thread on how many AC threads are on here?

I'm just saying what "I heard". It's kinda the whole fun of this forum, isn't it?

crazyone

08-16-2011, 11:48 AM

Hopefully teays will have mullens and schiff back. They both are key contributors and are gamebrakers. I still think Teays has a great chance at winning league this year. The kicker will be key in winning a couple games this year and yes it was a 52yrd field goal. We will see this firday night because it is real game situation so lets get here friday.

Zunardo

08-16-2011, 01:16 PM

Fun? Who said anything about fun? It's all about sucking the life out of this thread.

Re Amanda's "low numbers" previously referenced - I will take any implied negative influence that might have on their season with a grain of salt. ;) Amanda will be Amanda, which means pride and tradition will translate into their usual strong team and record.

oldviking is absolutely correct, there are always a plethora of posts on the Aces come football season. I don't think that's a bad thing.

52-yard field goal by a TV kicker? That is quite impressive. I remember one kicker we faced last year who had a very strong leg, he kicked off from the 50 due to a penalty, and it looked like it went through the uprights. Can't remember if he was from Teays Valley or not. I thought I mentioned it in a post last season, but I can't find it.

Bloom Carroll fans might be low-key of late because they are pre-occupied with the Carroll Old Timer's Festival coming up, but I expect them to sufficiently caffeinated by the time week 1 rolls around.

And so will I.

green__n_gold76

08-16-2011, 03:51 PM

I remember FU's kicker kicking several fg's against Hamilton last year and at least 2 of them were beyond 40 yards.

DOUGER

08-16-2011, 07:24 PM

The suggestion that there is ever a plethora of posts about Amanda here on ACHUDDLE is just ridiculous!

Lol! Sorry. I kid because it's true.

Actually I wish more Hammy fans were as passionate as AC fans.

buckdawg05

08-16-2011, 07:35 PM

Preoccupied with the Old Timers' Festival. LOL. No, a dozen wins in the last decade will do that to a fan base. Heard the scrimmage against Fisher was dreadful. Us BC fans don't have problems talking about basketball, but football......Soccer team should be outstanding this year.

green__n_gold76

08-16-2011, 07:37 PM

Seems there was a lot of passion last season. You know how it is everywhere. "I go to all the games as long as they are winning".

Zunardo

08-16-2011, 09:46 PM

I remember FU's kicker kicking several fg's against Hamilton last year and at least 2 of them were beyond 40 yards.

Fairfield Union, that's where it was, thanks. The kicker was Kophis (spelling?). My goodness, that boy could kick. Sounds like Teays Valley has another one this year. Two years ago, it seemed we faced an opposing kicker every week that could hit from 50 yards, all of them appear to be learning good technique at an early age and performing at a much higher level these days.

Who's got the best pre-season punter so far?

bribacker51

08-16-2011, 09:52 PM

Who's got the best pre-season punter so far?[/QUOTE]

Hamilton has a very good punter in Crum but he does not kick FG's and I am not sure who will this year but the kid has a good leg.

green__n_gold76

08-16-2011, 11:24 PM

In the first scrimmage when they were practicing PAT's, I think that Hamilton nailed all of them.

DOUGER

08-17-2011, 03:58 AM

That passion didn't really come till what? 3 or 4 games into the season? You are so right. At the beginning of the season you could pull up right at kickoff & get a good seat & by midseason you had to get there an hour early to not have to park in the church lot. Lol.

DOUGER

08-17-2011, 05:43 AM

I am racking my brain trying to remember who was doing the PATs at the scrimmage. I want to say it was the tall runningback (haven't learned the names yet this year). He was putting them through. Don't know how far he can boot it.

bribacker51

08-17-2011, 08:35 AM

Caleb crumley is the kicker my son told me he has a pretty good leg.

LEalumnus

08-17-2011, 09:59 AM

Love Logan Elm getting mentioned in JJhuddle's DIII Power Poll with 16 returning starters (9 on D). Hard to imagine this team making statewide or even league noise this year. 2008 came out of nowhere so its always possible with Coach Bart.

green__n_gold76

08-17-2011, 10:08 AM

I thought that LE looked decent last season. They just seemed to fall apart later in the game when they got behind.

oldviking

08-17-2011, 10:32 AM

OK, ....I'm officially confused now.

Zunardo

08-17-2011, 10:36 AM

Too much fun? We can dial it back if we have to. :)

Love Logan Elm getting mentioned in JJhuddle's DIII Power Poll with 16 returning starters (9 on D). Hard to imagine this team making statewide or even league noise this year. 2008 came out of nowhere so its always possible with Coach Bart.

Nice write-up on the Braves. I'm assuming Heeter is coming back this season? I was very impressed with his performance as a freshman last year, also Vagnier. All those returning starters may bode very well for LE this year.

PurpleGold85

08-17-2011, 11:50 AM

The B-C team should do better than last year, although can't do much work. New turf should get them fired up. Scrimmages are progressively getting better. Held there own against a larger, faster New Lex team in a scrimmage on Tuesday morning. Have their final warm-up this Friday against Newark Catholic and Berne Union. Hoping they go at least 5 - 5 this season. At this point, all are predictions and anything can happen.

crazyone

08-17-2011, 01:30 PM

we will find a lot about teams this friday night. Hopefully everyone will be healthy this week for the scrimmage and everyone stays healthy for week 1. Any updates on injuries.

Wheezer5

08-18-2011, 06:59 AM

For TV this week, Mullens will play but maybe only half of the game. Schiff is out until next week. They should be ready to go for Westfall.

DOUGER

08-18-2011, 11:23 AM

Hamilton hosting Licking Valley tomorrow night. Will be a good measuring stick for the Rangers. LV making the power polls again this year. A good showing against Marion Franklin & hopefully against LV will have me in high spirits heading down to Chillicothe next week.

Anyone got scouting info on Chillicothe? Only info I get is from a guy I work with and he only tells me "they're good this year" & nothing else.

green__n_gold76

08-18-2011, 11:45 AM

Chilli progressed to be a decent team by the end of last season. If they have a lot of players returning they will be a handfull and then some.

Zunardo

08-18-2011, 12:43 PM

Haven't seen much commentary about Chilli - anybody seen armedforces lately? The few mentions I did see were somewhat conflicting, one said they lost a lot of seniors after last season, others said this year's talent could take them far as 9-1. I'm not naive enough to bet against Coach Hinton's ability to achieve the latter. There's been a ton o' talk about the possibility of Chillicothe (or others) coming to our league. Whether or not that is feasible, it's interesting to consider the possibility of Hinton once again coaching in the MSL Buckeye. BONUS - I heard Chillicothe is holding a fish fry at the the HT game on Aug 26, Mrs. Zunardo and I may have to drive down 23 a little bit earlier to get supper there.

If I recall, Licking Valley scrimmaged at Hamilton Twp a few years ago when Storm Klein was a senior, and they pretty much manhandled us then. The other memorable thing was one of the LV underclassmen suffered a badly broken leg at the end of the scrimmage when he planted his leg into a tangle of bodies, and two bones gave away. Hopefully this oone will be injury-free, and the Rangers will make a stronger showing then the last outing. I plan to be there tomorrow night and be care-free for a change, like I was when I was 12. I might even mosey over to the concession stand for a chick's drink. Go Rangers!

Aces fans - I see you have a new buzzword, H.E.A.R.T. - may one inquire what the full slogan is this year? I thought of "Here Every Athlete Reaches Together", but that sounded a little awkward.

DOUGER

08-18-2011, 03:01 PM

As long as Hamilton is the 1 in that 9-1 record I am fine with that!

green__n_gold76

08-18-2011, 04:01 PM

This will be the 4th or 5th year in a row that Hamilton and LV have scrimmaged. LV pretty much had their way before last season. This year, like last year, the scrimmage will be the team's "Jamboree Game"- it is played pretty much like a regular season game. Last season they varsity played three quarters and the jv's played the fourth with the scoreboard tuned off.

It was as a most exciting scrimmage game as you'll see. Hamilton grabbed the early lead and LV kept fighting back. It took a goal line stop by the Rangers up by less than a td to seal it. The final was something like 34-28??

dad4sports

08-18-2011, 09:04 PM

I just returned from the Newark @ Canal Winchester scrimmage. In the one half of live game situation action, CW was victorious 33-0. The Indians moved the ball at will, while Newark only was able to manage 2 1st downs in the entire half.

The Indians were much sharper than a week ago. Question: was that because the Indians showed marked improvement -OR- because they were facing a Newark squad that looks like it will really struggle this season? The answer probably lies somewhere in the middle.

The Indians unveiled a power running back in John Franklin. I'm guessing that he tips the scale at 215 lbs.? The Wildcats had a very tough time getting him to the ground. The overall attack was fairly balanced......didn't look much different than the offense from the past few years.

Pet peeve.....can the CW defensive line please line up onsides? They were lined up in the neutral zone most of the night.....some were called, but most were overlooked. They won't get away with that next week against St. Charles.

One big negative for CW....it appeared that #47 may have suffered some type of leg injury.....hope he is OK. Earlier in the scrimmage, he made a beautiful pick-6 interception.

green__n_gold76

08-18-2011, 09:50 PM

Newark gave up 40.4 points a game last season. Still, it gives the offense confidence to be able to move the ball that way.

84Indians

08-18-2011, 10:07 PM

Newark gave up 40.4 points a game last season. Still, it gives the offense confidence to be able to move the ball that way.

It does help build confidence. Newark was 1-9 last year and gave up lots of points, however, they play in the OCC division that includes Pick Central, Lancaster, Gahanna, Groveport, etc. Big difference giving up 40 a game in that league vs other less difficult divisions. Many teams would fare no better in that gauntlet.

Hopefully the young man (# 47 Keenan) is ok. Believe he has hurt his knee the last two seasons, he is a junior this year. He was walking around on it but somewhat gingerly after the scrimmage.

Time to turn focus to St. Charles now.

Go Indians!

cwindian

08-19-2011, 06:45 AM

It is hard to determine if CW improved that much in a weeks time or if it was the difference in competition - New Albany, a good shot at winning D2 and Ol. Orange a probable D2 playoff team last week -vs- a bad D1 team this week. Either way,CW looked like the CW of the past few years- pretty good. A lot of speed, big team numbers, a lot of offensive weapons, big D line... The first 3 games will be very tough then I expect a lot of 40-7 games.

dad4sports

08-19-2011, 07:48 AM

DOUGER

08-19-2011, 06:21 PM

Hammy starting off good. Blocked field goal returned for 89 yards and a TD. Held LV to a 3 & out next series. HT 6 - LV 0.

DOUGER

08-19-2011, 06:23 PM

HT 3 & out. Cause & recover fumble on punt. Our D & ST look GOOD!

DOUGER

08-19-2011, 06:50 PM

3:32 left in half. Hammy returns punt for TD. #13 from LV got floored on the play but thankfully was all right. HT 13 - LV 0. While I'm typing Hammy intercepted LV deep in their territory.

DOUGER

08-19-2011, 06:56 PM

Hillerich has put in our backups now. Offense throws an INT, DEF jumping offsides. Hope they shake their jitters. Looking really sloppy.

green__n_gold76

08-19-2011, 07:50 PM

Douger-the starters were in for three quarters. The game ended 13-7 with LV scoring with .9 to go.

Jv scrimmage now.

DOUGER

08-19-2011, 07:52 PM

Final for varsity scrimmage HT 13 - LV 7. LV got the 7 in the final second.

All in all I am happy with the Rangers performance. Our D-Backs need some work. Doesn't look like a speed or athletic issue, more of an experience thing. Got to learn to read the QB and turn and look for the ball when the receiver is looking up at it coming. LV's TD would not have happened if the D-Back had looked for the ball, would have been at least knocked down if not intercepted.

But LV is ranked #10 in the preseason DIV III power poll so have to love the results. A little more work with our secondary and we are pretty solid.

DOUGER

08-19-2011, 07:56 PM

What I meant was rotating in backups. QB, defense. Offsides call was on a fresh player. Seemed to lose rhythm when the rotation started.

gbigg

08-19-2011, 08:34 PM

Sounds like special teams need a little more work for Valley , and blocking. They will be ready to play I can tell you that. A scrimmage is a good test to see who they want to play and at what spots. Sounds like HT "D" came ready to play tonight and so did Valley's.

strokn7

08-19-2011, 08:46 PM

Bloom Carroll had a 3-way scrimmage tonight with Newark Catholic and Berne Union. They played 1 quarter against each team. They beat Newark Catholic 17-0 and were up on Berne Union 7-0 when I left. I know they have 4-5 guys on the defense that are out right now due to injury but should be back soon. All in all a good showing for the dogs. Even though it's just a scrimmage it's nice to build a winning mentality.

Zunardo

08-19-2011, 08:58 PM

Strokn7, did Bloom Carroll get to try out the new turf?

strokn7

08-19-2011, 09:04 PM

Yes they have been on the new turf for over a week now. It is an amazing facility. The administration and athletic department did a phenomenal job.

aces_fan

08-19-2011, 09:58 PM

High Expectations Are Reached Together.That is the full heart slogan.

rick_dangerous

08-19-2011, 10:06 PM

That's two preseason top ten schools hammy has faired really well against. With a pretty young team, that's got me excited.

green__n_gold76

08-19-2011, 10:07 PM

Should be a good season.

creeksider

08-19-2011, 10:08 PM

Amanda looked pretty decent. Amanda 32 Miami Trace7 after 3 quarters of game type scenario. We have a chance.

Zunardo

08-19-2011, 10:10 PM

High Expectations Are Reached Together.That is the full heart slogan.

Thanks, that is a good one. I came close.

ltyler

08-19-2011, 11:03 PM

Logan Elm looked good tonight 35-12 win Varsity, JV and Freshman played

CHICKENHEART

08-20-2011, 06:36 AM

LE score was 35-6 in third when they started putting in JV. JV and Freshmen did well also. Looks like some promise for LE football. They all played well.

DOUGER

08-20-2011, 07:48 AM

I'm with Rick Dangerous. Hammy did very well against Marion Franklin (ranked 7th in Div II preseason power poll) and even better against Licking Valley (ranked 10th in Div III preseason power poll).

I didn't know what to expect coming into this season with the amount of starters we lost from last years surprisingly good team. Looks like Coach Hillerich is the real deal and has a way of building a team with the talent he has around him. He is showing he deserved that coach of the year award.

It is preseason and scrimmages can be deceiving since they 'don't count' for much but I have a good feeling about this team. We will give it a good showing this year and at least make some noise in the MSL.

Good job Hammy! Build upon what you've learned and pay attention to your coaches. With a little more work you could be quite dangerous this year!

bribacker51

08-20-2011, 07:54 AM

3:32 left in half. Hammy returns punt for TD. #13 from LV got floored on the play but thankfully was all right. HT 13 - LV 0. While I'm typing Hammy intercepted LV deep in their territory.

Both TDs were by a freshman Aaron Williams the kid can play ball wow happy to welcome a move in like that anytime very fast for only 14 and the best part was after the punt TD first thing he did was thank 21 for the block.

The D did look great cant wait till Friday.

creeksider

08-20-2011, 08:57 AM

LE score was 35-6 in third when they started putting in JV. JV and Freshmen did well also. Looks like some promise for LE football. They all played well.

That's all wonderful. Who was their opponent?

DOUGER

08-20-2011, 09:16 AM

Both TDs were by a freshman Aaron Williams the kid can play ball wow happy to welcome a move in like that anytime very fast for only 14 and the best part was after the punt TD first thing he did was thank 21 for the block.

The D did look great cant wait till Friday.

I had heard that too and forgot to mention it. That young man has got some wheels on him. Watching him pull away in the open field when it looked like he would be caught was pretty sweet.

He should be thanking him, that was quite a hit 21 put on em. I was surprised but thankful to see him get right up afterward. Was some nice down the field blocking by Hammy all night. They keep moving until the whistle blows.

crazyone

08-20-2011, 11:29 AM

dad4sports

08-20-2011, 12:47 PM

Teays lost 21 to 10 to big walnut. Teays was switching quarterbacks all night. The 21 points they gave up were 2ints and 1 fumble to the house. defense looked good. Offense never really got into rythem becasue of Qb swaping and the running game was as great up the middle. Will be better with schiff back. TV did do a good job and i still think they have a good chance this year.

Just to add......saw this post from a BW fan on another thread

"Big Walnut 21-0 after 3 qtrs of varsity play. 28-10 final score. 1st qtr was hard to watch, as numerous penaties and a complete lack of offensive continuity made it difficult to watch. D stepped up and played suprizingly well, keeping Teays Valley from moving the ball. 2nd qtr was much different, BW scored on a pick 6, a 20-something long TD run, and a nice pass into the endzone from w/in the redzone. D forced 2 or 3 other turnovers besides the pick to keep TV from scoring. BW also had a pick 6 to start the 2nd half that was called back due to holding on the return. The remainder of the game was heavy subbing, JV and 3rd stringers.
One observation from TV, their kicker is gonna be very good for them. attempted a 52 yd fg that landed in the endzone, and nailed a 42 yd fg w/ plenty of leg to spare...nice job."

Zunardo

08-20-2011, 02:48 PM

Here we go with another mention of that kicker again! :rolleyes: :D

Sounds like this kid is the real deal, that is a great weapon to have. Does he also play on the Teays soccer team? We've had kids at Hamilton Township who did both, I admire them for their dedication and time-management skills.

Logan Elm looked good tonight 35-12 win Varsity, JV and Freshman played

Looks like Logan Elm traveled to Greenfield McClain.

cwjordon

08-20-2011, 04:29 PM

Good Luck To Canal This Year!!look Out For Mlb #51

creeksider

08-20-2011, 07:23 PM

The Teays kicker is for real. He is an absolute weapon.

bman618

08-20-2011, 10:35 PM

Teays Valley's kicker, Billy Hodge, played soccer - forward and keeper - through sixth grade, then went out for football. He started kicking in the eighth grade because Jackson Middle School in Grove City had no kicker and the coach was looking for one. We had a story in the paper about 10 days ago when he verbaled to Air Force. Billy is a good athlete - also plays hoops and runs track for the Vikings.

achsdad2012

08-21-2011, 09:42 AM

This post should be Hami and TV- vs- all Ohio teams and win ? Cant wait to see the post when these to teams play each other

DOUGER

08-21-2011, 10:11 AM

We're allowed to discuss other teams in the MSL on this forum besides Amanda or talk about other games outside of Amanda vs. Hartley. lol. Don't worry, the Aces have a plethora of threads on here dedicated solely to them. hehe.

bribacker51

08-21-2011, 10:59 AM

This post should be Hami and TV- vs- all Ohio teams and win ? Cant wait to see the post when these to teams play each other

You dont seem to have a clue what you are talking about most posts on this thread have been about 1 Amanda then Canal,Teays,Hammy who must have the most members by the looks of it and by the way fans post about the teams they watch and are invested in if they did not there would be no need for forums at all.
I also do not think any post on here matters much to the coachs at any of these schools but I as a fan I like to hear about CW,AC,LE.TV,HT,BC,CV & FU or else I would not be on the huddle in the first place I only wish more info was posted on them all and I still do not see any post that would make you feel the need to post the above.....

DOUGER

08-21-2011, 12:02 PM

True Bribacker. I just had to laugh. I never thought I would see an Amanda fan on here complaining that their team wasn't being talked about enough. LOL. I am still chuckling about it.

DOUGER

08-21-2011, 08:30 PM

Now it's just awkward...

dad4sports

08-21-2011, 11:13 PM

Good luck to all the MSL Buckeye teams the next 3 weeks! Tons of computer points to be had.....the more the league teams win now, the more points will be available for all when the league play starts....

Anyone have any predictions on the what the overall league non-conference record will be ? I'll take a shot....13-11

creeksider

08-22-2011, 08:03 AM

Good post, dad4sports.

green__n_gold76

08-22-2011, 09:59 AM

I haven't seen all the non league schedules.

Hammy
@Chillicothe
London
Bexley

DOUGER

08-22-2011, 12:16 PM

I had heard(grain of salt) that London was off the schedule & replaced by some city league school. Still listing London on the school site, just a rumor I guess?

Zunardo

08-22-2011, 01:04 PM

First I heard of it, Douger. The London website still shows us as week 2 opponents.

Bloom Carroll's non-conference schedule:
- Liberty Union
- Whitehall
- Harvest Prep

DOUGER

08-22-2011, 01:45 PM

I believe it was Rick Dangerous who told me that at the Marion Franklin scrimmage. He usually has good info but maybe a rare miss this time. Lol.

green__n_gold76

08-22-2011, 03:13 PM

I believe Canal has
St. Charles
Grove City
Marion Franklin
??

84Indians

08-22-2011, 04:30 PM

Correct GnG

CW plays:

St. Charles - Home
Grove City - Away
Marion Franklin - Home

D1, D1, D2. No easy games in these 3. They better be rocking ready or 0-3 would not be out of the question. :eek:

dad4sports

08-22-2011, 08:47 PM

Correct GnG

CW plays:

St. Charles - Home
Grove City - Away
Marion Franklin - Home

D1, D1, D2. No easy games in these 3. They better be rocking ready or 0-3 would not be out of the question. :eek:

CW has to find a way to win at least one of these games to have a shot at the post-season. An 0-3 start would not seem to be out of the realm of possibility though....arguably, the Indians will be underdogs in all 3.

rick_dangerous

08-22-2011, 11:30 PM

I believe it was Rick Dangerous who told me that at the Marion Franklin scrimmage. He usually has good info but maybe a rare miss this time. Lol.

Had a friend tell me London was taken off and replaced. Was telling you that he got that mistaken for West (the city league school) being replaced by Bexley.

DOUGER

08-23-2011, 05:17 AM

So I Was half right... Or mostly wrong! Lol. I was confused when I saw London still on the schedule.

dad4sports

08-23-2011, 06:56 AM

Canal Winchester season preview:

http://www.snponline.com/articles/2011/08/22/the_times/sports/cwfootball_20110820_1107am_10.txt

bribacker51

08-23-2011, 08:57 PM

Canal Winchester season preview:

http://www.snponline.com/articles/2011/08/22/the_times/sports/cwfootball_20110820_1107am_10.txt

Nice read thanks for posting the link.

bogey golfer

08-24-2011, 10:25 AM

Prediction time subject to change after week 3

1. Hamilton Township
2. Amanda
3. Teays Valley
4. Canal Winchester
5. Logan Elm
6. Bloom Carroll
7. Fairfield Union
8. Circleville

crazyone

08-24-2011, 10:28 AM

1.TV
2.HT
3.CW
4.AC
5.LE
6.BC
7.CV
8.FU (i know nothing about)

oldviking

08-24-2011, 10:53 AM

That's believable. Although not my HOPE. I thought HTWP was best team in MSL last year. I thought they lost A LOT of talented kids. I thought last year was one of the every 10 year HTWP anomoly teams. Sounds like this coach has it going on up there in The Meadows?
I think Teays COULD be for real. Their "starting QB" being out the entire pre-season put them way behind the field out of the chute. I hope it doesn't ruin a great group's chances of success.
I still think TV and AC could be epic and decide MSL. I think the tables could be turned from last year, and by week 7 and depth could affect AC, and TV could be firing on all 11 cylinders by then. (but crappy gas mileage).
I think LE will contend with these other 3 in some way. I can name 8 great athletes at LE right now. When you can do that, you can contend in MSLB.
Reminder that this is an OPINION forum before I make this next comment, .... I think Canal will struggle this year. Canal COULD realistically be 4-6? or worse? All close games, but it could happen.(almost equally a chance they could be 9-1?). The worst thing is that Teays has them last game every year and they could be getting tuned in by then. Winner of TV-CW has CHANCE at playoffs, loser probably doesn't.
I'm going to say Circleville next, then Bloom, then FU.
I agree, after week 3, everyone gets to re-submit one time!

84Indians

08-24-2011, 02:33 PM

Reminder that this is an OPINION forum before I make this next comment, .... I think Canal will struggle this year. Canal COULD realistically be 4-6? or worse? All close games, but it could happen.

Anything can happen obviously. I am curious if you are basing this on the athletes that graduated ( starting QB, top RB, top WR ) or the loss of the head coach or just feel the other teams are going to be that much better? Based on how they did at all levels last year in the league (Varsity and Frosh went undefeated in the league, not sure on the JV but they may have as well) they should have the players to go better than 4-6 or worse.

oldviking

08-24-2011, 03:40 PM

Little bit of both, plus some other thoughts (IMHO). I know they lost a TON of great kids. Plus I saw two series vs Newark with my own eyes, and it was NOT the same team from last year. (D looked great from what I saw). Then add that yes, I think most of the teams they face will be better.
St C is D1 and good. GC is D1 (800 boys) and will have full squad this year. I think TV will be much better (return entire team less literally a couple kids), and honestly may feel like they owe a little payback(got spanked last 2 years), AC has great Jr/Sr classes and lost by 2 pt conversion fail?, HTWP is all the buzz on here, and don't sleep on LE this year.
I'm not saying they WILL. I'm just saying it's not crazy to think that they realistically COULD lose all 7 of these games, and I personally don't rank them ahead of the other 4 MSLB teams on my list. (which is for "entertainment", right?)
Varsity and Frosh went undefeated in league. OK, we've established Varsity was awesome last year....but lost everybody. Freshman Team - Kudos, but that converts to "doesn't affect this year". Did the rest of the teams have their best 4 freshmen on the varsity. And now your undefeated freshmen are sophomores....so that means this year your JV will now be undefeated, or you will win MSLB with sophomores? Cant do it....trust me, TV tried it last year, didn't work.
I've seen teams go 3-7 and the 3 were "prayers". Not saying that at all in this case.
I think top 5 in MSLB are very close. This is just the order I ended up with.

84Indians

08-24-2011, 04:25 PM

Little bit of both, plus some other thoughts (IMHO). I know they lost a TON of great kids. Plus I saw two series vs Newark with my own eyes, and it was NOT the same team from last year. (D looked great from what I saw).

Did you watch the first half of the Newark Scrimmage or after the "Halftime" when they brought out the chains and went live? Agree during the first part when it was just so many plays offense / defense they looked pretty sluggish. The first team never scored. Things changed a bit after half on many levels.

I don't disagree overall that it is hard to predict. The first 3 games will be killer then I see 3 teams and maybe a fourth in the league that will be up to the task. Don't be surprised if Circleville is one. They had some great athletes on JV last year that could surprise people. Not sure on Logan Elm, they really started against CW well last year then imploded in the second half.

DOUGER

08-24-2011, 04:42 PM

I work closely with a guy who has a brother playing for C-Ville and he says there is no hope for roundtown this year. He says there is no O-line whatsoever. I haven't seen them at all this year so personally I don't know.

Check out the Circleville bs. Miami Trace thread, pretty much echoing what I heard.

I can't really give a prediction league wise. I do believe from what I have read the same top 4 teams will be battling for the title with maybe Logan Elm thrown into the mix if some of the hubbub is true.

I just can't wait for Friday! Win or lose I am pumped to watch my Rangers take the field again!

oldviking

08-24-2011, 04:43 PM

Later. Didn't see much but was talking to canal buddy and he said it was CW 1's. Who knows? I'm going on bits and pieces and hear-say.

84Indians

08-24-2011, 07:40 PM

Let's all hope the MSL teams can win a bunch of these non league games and we'll all be better off. Once we get to week 4 then the gloves are off. :)

Beating teams like Hartley, St. Charles etc gives us all some points possible when we beat up each other.

Too bad on C-Ville, the Frosh QB and RB last year also played some JV and sure looked good. But a bad line will sink you every time.

bogey golfer

08-24-2011, 07:56 PM

If I remember correctly I thought Hamilton brings back most of their lines that's why I picked them one. Amanda has a great Sr class I think their biggest question is can Saum stay healthy. Teays might be a year away they have a very good Jr class and Canal lost the most from last year but have quality depth throughout their program. I think the loss of Coach Mauro will also hurt Canal, but it would not surprise me to see any of the top 4 win the league. Logan Elm's qb might be the best back in the league and they could surprise. Bloom has a good rb and the excitement of new turf. I could not bring myself to pick my Falcons last so I put them 7th, they have some nice athletes just not enough of them I expect them to play teams tough but fade in the 4th qtr. Circleville graduated a very good qb who was a lot of their offense so not sure what they have.

DOUGER

08-25-2011, 03:52 AM

Hammy's line does look real good this year. People say we lost we graduated a lot of talent last year, which is true. I have to agree with what GnG said about our line being a big part of what made them so good. Most of that line is back and what we did lose we seem to have reloaded.

oldviking

08-25-2011, 10:53 AM

I agree that we all have to win some games in week 1-3 to help each other (help the winners vs. each other! lol). If we all lose weeks 1-3, no one in MSLB makes playoffs...there are no points to gain, even if you end up 7-3 at that point.
I also agree that the lines are where it all starts. You can't see that in 7 on 7's, and sometimes teams scrimmage the weirdest teams, so you really just don't know what you're dealing with until you see a couple of weeks of real games.
I think you can backfill (reload) skill kids easier than Linemen. Anyone can run through a 4 foot hole. Not everyone can MAKE a 4 foot hole. That could be what puts HTWP ahead of the pack?

Zunardo

08-25-2011, 11:25 AM

That's believable. Although not my HOPE. I thought HTWP was best team in MSL last year. I thought they lost A LOT of talented kids. I thought last year was one of the every 10 year HTWP anomoly teams. Sounds like this coach has it going on up there in The Meadows?

Yes, he name-dropped The Meadows! :D (sorry, that tickled my funnybone)

Best team? That's very generous of you to say. We certainly had the potential (there he goes with that word again), but the sometimes-spotty performance bore out an honest 8-2 record, which could easily have been 7-3 or 6-4. A smidgen here and there, and maybe 10-0 and the playoffs? Heck, it was a great season, plain and simple, and we enjoyed it.

The Ham Twp 10-year anomaly was interesting way of putting it, and pretty much how that's how we've faired. Around 15 years ago we had a lot of 2-8 seasons before 2002. HT should have had a great 2009 season (which would have made it a 7-year anomaly), but then the casualty list happened, Jacoby goes 0-10, and the rest is woulda-coulda-shoulda......

This year? Harumph. I'm not smart enough to say, but Ranger line is there, as some have previously noted.

Amanda, Canal, Teays are too bunched up together at the top this year for me to put them in any order, and hopefully my Rangers will be squeezed in there with them again.

oldviking

08-25-2011, 11:52 AM

I'm glad you enjoyed that. I was actually disappointed it took one of you that long to comment on it? I slid that in just to see who would catch it! If your HS car stereo didn't play a type of media that involved magnetic tape of some kind, you will NOT understand or appreciate any humor in that whatsoever! lol.
And I think Teays may actually be on a 12 year plan?

DOUGER

08-25-2011, 04:02 PM

So we have in no particular order...

Miami Trace vs. Circleville
St. Charles vs. Canal Winchester
Amanda Clearcreek vs. Hartley
Logan Elm vs. Washington Courthouse
Westfall vs. Teays Valley
Hamilton Township vs. Chillicothe
Bloom Carroll vs. Liberty Union
Fairfield Union vs. New Lexington

Did I forget any?

Who you got in a pick em?