Mid-State League Cardinal 2011

[WJfan4life]

what does the teams have this year for the league.

[moe4473]

Out of all the years west jeff has been in the league, they could be easy targets this year. They lose a host of seniors. Yes West Jeff has reloaded the last 5 years but i see a slump off coming this year and next. a very small class will grad this coming football season and this means alot of sophmores will be starting with no varsity expericance. It will be amazing to me if the Riders can win the league this year due to this factor. ill be rooting for them and hope they can continue to reload, but the odds are against them this year for sure. my gut says a possible miss of the playoffs and another league title are coming but my Rider faith still says theyll do it once again in 2011. 196 short days till kickoff!

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Fisher Catholic looks like this year has some promise. I've heard there a ton of kids signed up to play football this season under new Coach Hurps. Good luck to them. They get WJ, HP and LH at home.

[endzone1]

Interesting post Moe. I would assume that the likely favorites will be W.J considering the past 5 years in the league. but... if you're saying they lose a lot of seniors then maybe it won't be their year. That being said, who returns with the most letter winners? Which programs had some promise from grades below? Also, good luck to F.C and new Coach Hurps. I'd be happy to see that program get rollin' again.

[htsbuzzfan]

Any news on schedules for this season yet?

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Any news on schedules for this season yet?

8/27 Whitehall-Yearling 7:30pm
9/3 @ Fairfield Christian Academy 7:00pm
9/9 @ Newark Catholic 7:30pm
9/16 @ Berne Union 7:30pm
9/24 West Jefferson 7:30pm
10/1 Harvest Preparatory 7:30pm
10/7 @ Liberty Union 7:30pm
10/14 @ Grandview Heights 7:30pm
10/22 Millersport 7:30pm
10/29 Licking Heights 7:30pm

That's Fisher's schedule.

[roughriderpride]

WJ's schedule is just a bit different next season then the past 2 as league play goes.

8-26 @ Mechanicsburg
9-2 Madison Plains
9-9 @ London
9-16 Grandview
9-24 @ Fisher Catholic (Sat) Man I hate them Sat. night games!
9-30 Millersport
10-7 @ Harvest Prep
10-14 Licking Heights
10-21 Liberty Union
10-28 @ Berne Union

I would really like to see them bulk that non-league schedule up more but London this year with a new head coach should be a lot better considering they used a lot of underclassman last year.
Well, Madison Plains will break in another new coach as well.
This will be their 3rd in 4 years but they also return a ton of under classman.

Getting to the Roughriders! Someone says the same thing about WJ each season.
After 2006's season when the Riders finished 12-1, they lost 16 seniors, the entire backfield and 5 lineman.
In 2007, the coaching staff put together a WJ team that went 12-1 and that started a 3 year career of the best QB that WJ has produced.
Then 2008 and after the 2009 season when that QB went on to bigger and better things at Urbana where he had a great freshman season.
Here came 2010!
Well, a new QB that would for sure not make the Rider offense as powerful as past seasons. A lot of new faces on offense and defense that might not make the Riders as tough as previous years and somehow the coaching staff put together another 12-1 season.
Now, I admit this season does seem like this will for sure be a big mountain to climb for the WJ coaching staff considering they return about 2 on each side of the ball but a few more that seen a lot of playing time last season.
WJ might be young this year.
In fact, this might be the youngest WJ team that coach B. has put on the field in his previous 9 years at WJ.
This will be coach Buescher's 10th season as Roughrider head coach!

The website is being updated all the time and has pictures of the new weight room equipment, it looks very nice.

www.roughriderfootball.com

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Saturday night games aren't the most desirable, I agree. Though Fisher will never have a field of their own, so its something to get used to.

[suffjo]

With the rumors of the Licking county league reforming how does this effect the Mid State league; rumors are that West Jeff is looking elswhere; don't know these rumors to be true. Does anyone have info?

[Hank_Hill]

It would leave the MSL Ohio with just three teams left - Academy, Whitehall and Bexley. Canal could jump to Watkins open spot in the OCC and the Cardinal would be down a team with Licking Heights' exit.

Certainly throws the area in a tailspin. Not sure there are alot of options for WJ, just as before.

Ready, Hartley, West Jeff, Jonathan Alder, Bexley, Academy, Grandview and Worthington Christian (they will be adding football soon)???? Will never happen, but there's not much else out there. It gets a little small for Alder. Also allows Hartley and Ready to stay in the CCL.

[gamauter]

With the rumors of the Licking county league reforming how does this effect the Mid State league; rumors are that West Jeff is looking elswhere; don't know these rumors to be true. Does anyone have info?

What I heard was 1 school, Lakewood, has voted in support of the league. It was on the news today. A person with knowledge of the process from Lakewood told me it would be 2014 at the earliest and with only Lakewood stating support it is far from a done deal. The MBL schools have always stated they were not interested.

[Hank_Hill]

Well, if you looks at the school board agenda's for about five other schools that have posted, accepting a move to a new LCL is on the agenda. Watkins already states its seeking approval for the move in 2013.

The other four schools have not posted their agendas yet. Doesn't matter what Utica and Northridge do, they aren't needed to create an eight team LCL.

[suffjo]

Good reporting Hank; keep us informed; the only options for WJ would be the Ohio Heritage Conference (Mechanicsburg, West Liberty, ect) or the SCOL with Miami Trace, London, WCH, ect. The village of WJ refuses to grow; the population is actually down from what it was 10 years ago; where other communities such as Plain City,Hilliard, and Dublin continue to grow. There was a time when the population of all these places were about the same. I can understand not wanting to become to big but to have a negative growth in the past 10 yrs is not good. The village does not want to get to that magic mark of five thousand which would put in city status. There was a time when WJ would play anyone, now I hear the excuse we are too small.
Maybe WJ could downsize another thousand people and go to Div VI.

[Hank_Hill]

Just FYI - Newark Advocate has a story in today's edition about the new LCL...Heath approved the move last night.

From the sounds of it a few months ago, the OHC has no intention of growing.

[suffjo]

Hank
Do you really sell propane and propane accessiories?

[moe4473]

WJ's schedule is just a bit different next season then the past 2 as league play goes.

8-26 @ Mechanicsburg
9-2 Madison Plains
9-9 @ London
9-16 Grandview
9-24 @ Fisher Catholic (Sat) Man I hate them Sat. night games!
9-30 Millersport
10-7 @ Harvest Prep
10-14 Licking Heights
10-21 Liberty Union
10-28 @ Berne Union

I would really like to see them bulk that non-league schedule up more but London this year with a new head coach should be a lot better considering they used a lot of underclassman last year.
Well, Madison Plains will break in another new coach as well.
This will be their 3rd in 4 years but they also return a ton of under classman.

Getting to the Roughriders! Someone says the same thing about WJ each season.
After 2006's season when the Riders finished 12-1, they lost 16 seniors, the entire backfield and 5 lineman.
In 2007, the coaching staff put together a WJ team that went 12-1 and that started a 3 year career of the best QB that WJ has produced.
Then 2008 and after the 2009 season when that QB went on to bigger and better things at Urbana where he had a great freshman season.
Here came 2010!
Well, a new QB that would for sure not make the Rider offense as powerful as past seasons. A lot of new faces on offense and defense that might not make the Riders as tough as previous years and somehow the coaching staff put together another 12-1 season.
Now, I admit this season does seem like this will for sure be a big mountain to climb for the WJ coaching staff considering they return about 2 on each side of the ball but a few more that seen a lot of playing time last season.
WJ might be young this year.
In fact, this might be the youngest WJ team that coach B. has put on the field in his previous 9 years at WJ.
This will be coach Buescher's 10th season as Roughrider head coach!

The website is being updated all the time and has pictures of the new weight room equipment, it looks very nice.

www.roughriderfootball.com

RRP, im not saying they cant do it but this year there smaller in size and numbers then previous years. I did say they have reloaded the last 5 years. I would love to see them do it again this coming year but the odds are against them. not enough senior leadership to help out and those seniors are very small. guys that didnt play last year will have to step it up....i see this year being a great experiance for the younger guys and could lead to another winning season down the road and IF those younger classmen come out and play great ball all year long then there should be no reason the MSL stays at WJ.

[roughriderpride]

Well Moe, I hope the success continues. It will take a lot of stepping up from a good and talented sophomore class to make a big impact this season without the big # of senior leadership.
WJ will have good players at the skilled positions but they will just be young 1st year players.

Now, with the whole MSL deal going down in flames. The expansion and the realignment as well which is something that I at least thought would pass.
But I don't know what some schools are hanging on to, the vote going down 17-7 is strange to me.
I would love for WJ to be in a little closer & tougher league.
WJ, Academy, Grandview, Amanda, Liberty Union, Heath, Bloom & Fairfield Union.
That is still a little drive time but not two, 2 hour drives like now in the same season not hardly getting any points for them at all.
I would love for them to get in the OHC, but they will probably never expand or even in the SCOL would be nice but I can't see that happening with WJ being a D-5.
This season will be interesting for WJ and if they get through this season like years past, I would look for them to make that next step in 2 years and make it to Stark county if this up in coming soph class stays together.

[WJfan4life]

whats the word on Prep, will they still have sports this year.

[NewarkCatholicFan]

West Jeff and Heights I am guessing will be 1 & 2 while everyone else battles for 3rd down.

I hope Millersport and Fisher can get their numbers up.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

West Jeff and Heights I am guessing will be 1 & 2 while everyone else battles for 3rd down.

I hope Millersport and Fisher can get their numbers up.

Fisher is experiencing a steep decline in enrollment. It has been rumored that the school will be a jr/sr high (like Portsmouth Notre Dame) by 2014. However I have heard there have been 30 or so kids (!) signed up for the football program this year. That's really good for a school like Fisher. They seem to place a lot of trust into Coach Hurps.

[NewarkCatholicFan]

Hurps, I hope will do a great job at Fisher.
It will be interesting to see what he can do when he is running the show.
I really think he will surround himself with good people and he will listened to and put in to use all the input he gets.

[roughriderpride]

I believe that Licking Heights return 7 on offense including their QB and RB.
This should put them in the drivers seat to build off of their 7-3 record from last season.
Defense returns 4 but with them being a D-2 school, I would think that the cupboards are not bare.

Prep, with all the problems they have had over the off season I wonder if it will be hard for them to keep focus.
On offense, they do return a good QB (can't recall his name), RB in Fambro and WR in Gaines.
All 3 had a productive season for the Warriors last year.
Now, if they can put the pieces together, HP can make some noise on offense this season.
At WJ this year, it will be a rebuilding year for the Riders as we see only 4 return on each side of the ball.
For the 3rd consecutive season WJ will start a new QB.
A new RB, new WR's and a new O-line.
That's just the offense!
Defense will have a new D-line along with 2 new LB's and 3 new DB's.
I have to check up on the other teams to get some more info.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Millersport is going to be... Millersport.

[nomorebull]

I think the league is still West Jeff's to lose. Heights may be the team to do it this year. Not sure about the rest of the league.

[roughriderpride]

We are far enough along for people to know something abut their teams.
Yeah, it is still WJ's to loose but if they are going to loose it this might be the best year for someone to take it.
But who!
Licking Heights? Now a D-3 team.
Liberty Union? Always a threat as well.
Harvest Prep? After all dust has settled from all the off season mischief, they should still have a team.
A QB, RB and WR will be their top players on offense and they will be tough.

Grandview?
Berne Union?
Fisher Catholic?

Millersport? I still admire the kids for going out and trying to keep football going at the school.

[84Indians]

Licking Heights? Now a D-3 team.


They are now a D-2 team and should be pretty good this year.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

I don't know how much information there is to provide for Fisher Catholic.

From what I have heard, last year's 2nd string quarterback, who was a freshman, returns and If I'm correct, will be starting QB. They supposedly have numbers in the 30's this year for football, which hasn't been that high since (if I'm correct) McCann or Burkhardt. Either way, its still really high compared to last year. They return (If I'm correct) 5 or 6 linemen from last year, and they also return at least two wide receivers, who also happen to be two of the smallest players in the league.

I'm not totally certain what will be a predicament for the Irish this year. Its only the middle of July so far. I think their first game, against Whitehall-Yearling (a school much larger than them) will tell a lot. Not so much whether its a W or L, but if they picked up where they left off and show a lot of progress and improvement.

As for 7 on 7's, I was told they held their own at Coffman's thing, but because the people over in that thread are more concerned about pride and boasting about their schools accomplishments, I haven't found out from another perspective how they did, even after I asked.

[Squirmydog]

We look forward to our Jamboree game with Fisher Catholic. They have some good athletes, and its great to hear numbers are up. They will be improved.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Thanks Squirmydog, GCC is always a formidable opponent and I'm looking forward to the action. The MSL is going to be fun to watch this year, and best of luck to the Eagles as well, from one small parochial to another.

[htsbuzzfan]

Never thought I'd hear that the Irish see another small school like GCC as a formidable opponent. No offense to GCC, as they are a team on the rise, but I can remember when the Irish were a team that truly were a team that was a football power. But then again, there was a time when I never thought I'd hear Licking Heights competing for a league title year in and out. I think the league will be much the same it has been. LH, WJ, LU, then every body else. Then again, you just never know. The only thing that I do know is that the coach from Madison County will have his players ready again this year.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Never thought I'd hear that the Irish see another small school like GCC as a formidable opponent. No offense to GCC, as they are a team on the rise, but I can remember when the Irish were a team that truly were a team that was a football power. But then again, there was a time when I never thought I'd hear Licking Heights competing for a league title year in and out. I think the league will be much the same it has been. LH, WJ, LU, then every body else. Then again, you just never know. The only thing that I do know is that the coach from Madison County will have his players ready again this year.

I'm not speaking for anyone, though I do think views such as seeing that GCC isn't a pushover would be uniform throughout the Fisher fanbase. GCC has some good players, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them make the playoffs in Region 23.

[Squirmydog]

I'm not speaking for anyone, though I do think views such as seeing that GCC isn't a pushover would be uniform throughout the Fisher fanbase. GCC has some good players, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them make the playoffs in Region 23.Hopefully we will be league rivals soon. Thanks for the props. We have to develop depth if we are going to make the playoffs.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Hopefully we will be league rivals soon. Thanks for the props. We have to develop depth if we are going to make the playoffs.

They definitely have the talent and potential. Using a farmer's adage, "Water and prosper". I wouldn't be surprised to see them get in 23's playoffs.

[WJfan4life]

ttt

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Thanks for bumping this one, I figured since there were replies on here it'd be better to see if this would get resurrected.

So what have we garnered from week 1?

[terrilhutch]

Good reporting Hank; keep us informed; the only options for WJ would be the Ohio Heritage Conference (Mechanicsburg, West Liberty, ect) or the SCOL with Miami Trace, London, WCH, ect. The village of WJ refuses to grow; the population is actually down from what it was 10 years ago; where other communities such as Plain City,Hilliard, and Dublin continue to grow. There was a time when the population of all these places were about the same. I can understand not wanting to become to big but to have a negative growth in the past 10 yrs is not good. The village does not want to get to that magic mark of five thousand which would put in city status. There was a time when WJ would play anyone, now I hear the excuse we are too small.
Maybe WJ could downsize another thousand people and go to Div VI.

must be a alder fan

[terrilhutch]

Well Moe, I hope the success continues. It will take a lot of stepping up from a good and talented sophomore class to make a big impact this season without the big # of senior leadership.
WJ will have good players at the skilled positions but they will just be young 1st year players.

Now, with the whole MSL deal going down in flames. The expansion and the realignment as well which is something that I at least thought would pass.
But I don't know what some schools are hanging on to, the vote going down 17-7 is strange to me.
I would love for WJ to be in a little closer & tougher league.
WJ, Academy, Grandview, Amanda, Liberty Union, Heath, Bloom & Fairfield Union.
That is still a little drive time but not two, 2 hour drives like now in the same season not hardly getting any points for them at all.
I would love for them to get in the OHC, but they will probably never expand or even in the SCOL would be nice but I can't see that happening with WJ being a D-5.
This season will be interesting for WJ and if they get through this season like years past, I would look for them to make that next step in 2 years and make it to Stark county if this up in coming soph class stays together.

i agree rrp they are talented and have all the tools

[roughriderpride]

Well, the Port has 24 boys and 16 of them are either 9th or 10th graders.
It's kinda hard to expect a lot out of them this season.

Prep totally hammered Newark Catholic this past weekend and I know they have some big time play makers at the skill positions.
It would be hard to think that NC is really down this season considering they are NC.
To bad Prep is ineligible for the postseason until 2013 because this seems like a year they could make some noise.
Liberty Union has close to 70 boys on their roster, they had a good win this weekend and will be tough as usual.
Licking Heights, not sure yet with the way that Watkins hammered them.
Grandview returned a lot at the skill position spots and will be tough, especially at home on their carpet.
WJ, they got a shutout once they settled down Friday night.
They are young but if they start playing a whole game like they did the 2nd half Friday night they will be a favorite to repeat.

[msl4life]

roughriderpride,
I saw NC scrimmage Berne Union and Bloom Carroll and they did look like they were down this year.

As for Berne Union, they looked ok Friday night but their lack of experience and depth showed at times.

[roughriderpride]

roughriderpride,
I saw NC scrimmage Berne Union and Bloom Carroll and they did look like they were down this year.

As for Berne Union, they looked ok Friday night but their lack of experience and depth showed at times.


Thanks MSL4life!
Just hard to imagine a season that NC is down.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

I heard a rumor that Harvest Prep-Fisher Catholic's game on October 1st will be shown on TV with I believe FSN for the Breast Cancer Awareness theme. Its just a rumor that I can't find anything about on the web. If so, this is exciting.

[roughriderpride]

Might not be real fun to watch this year.
Prep just might win that one 70-7!

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Yeah, this isn't a great game to show, in my opinion. I doubt Harvest would win by that theoretically large margin, but we're talking about two D VI teams who may or not make the playoffs in probably the weakest region in the state.

[msl4life]

GOOD LUCK to all cardinal teams tonight.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

So week 2....

Berne Union loses to Bexley

Millersport loses (badly) to Lakewood (surprise surprise)

Licking Heights loses to Gallia Academy

Liberty Union beats Fairfield Union

Harvest smacks Africentric

don't know about WJ and GH. Fisher plays tonight

[moe4473]

Wj wins big over Madison plains 52-7

[Squirmydog]

Yeah, this isn't a great game to show, in my opinion. I doubt Harvest would win by that theoretically large margin, but we're talking about two D VI teams who may or not make the playoffs in probably the weakest region in the state.As Lee Corso would say- "Not so fast my friend!" I remember watching the Millersport-Fisher Catholic game on tv last year.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Speaking of Millersport, I don't envy them, at all now. I heard their starting QB broke his leg. I think they're down to 12(?) healthy players.

[msl4life]

Grandview beat East Knox 40-13

[WJfan4life]

i hope The Port can turn things around, they need some wins under there belts.

[msl4life]

Yea, I agree the port has had a while since they have had success. I think the last time they were over .500 was in 03 when they went 7-3.

[roughriderpride]

Yeah, they beat wj that year.

WJ and Grandview just might start the league 3-0 this year.
The game will be at wj where the riders play the bobcats much better.
WJ @ Prep
Liberty Union @ WJ
Licking Heights @ WJ
These should all be good games this season.

[msl4life]

Ok so going into the opening weekend here are the standings.
wj, hp and grandview 3-0.
Liberty is 2-1
Licking Heights 1-2
Berne, Fisher,and Millersport are 0-3

[roughriderpride]

9/16 games

Fisher (0-3) @ Berne (0-3)

L. Heights (1-2) @ Prep (3-0)

Port (0-3) @ L. Union (2-1)

Grandview (3-0) @ WJ (3-0) (Game of the week)

[roughriderpride]

One thing, Prep just killed themselves this season.
If they wouldn't of got put on probation I'm sure they would have made the playoffs this season and probably made some noise as well.

Berne

Prep

Hopefully LU won't run up the score like Prep will on them.

WJ, cause they are at home.

[msl4life]

Berne
Prep
Lu
WJ

Anyone know how Millersports numbers are I have heard that they were under 20 players a couple weeks ago?

[RedBlackAttack]

We heard they dressed 13 on Friday.

[msl4life]

Thats crazy, it seems as this might finally be the year that they don't finish the season.

[shammmwowww99]

West Jeff seems to be the favorite and if they can clean it up penalty wise and get the D to get their helmets on the ball they should be able to make it past Grandview. Then they have Licking Heights and Liberty Union to play, who always challenge WJ, and its looking like there might be a distant light at the end of this rebuilt tunnel at West Jeff.

Fisher Catholic 35-14
Licking Heights 24-21 (a close game but giving the edge to heights)
Liberty Union 42-7
West Jefferson 42-14

[Midline Crisis]

This weekend will tell alot. WJ fans seem to be a bit "concerned" as compared to past years. I wouldn't bet against the Roughriders though. If Prep is focused I think they can get by LH.

Berne
Prep
LU
WJ

[kavorka]

C'mon BU!!!

[57chevy]

Berne, Fisher, and Port are all really down... but Grandview, West Jeff, Liberty, and Heights are all solid... Harvest is suspect, but we'll find out how good they are this week vs. Heights!

[roughriderpride]

Everyone was kind of iffy at wj this season considering this was supposed to be a rebuilding year.
WJ only returned I believe 3 starters on each side of the ball this year, their lowest in a long time.
Offense, QB, RB, all 5 lineman and a WR.
Defense, 3 lineman, 2 LB's, 3 DB's.

Last year in 2010, wj returned 7 on each side so you can see why some were worried.
Next season, there won't be much worries!

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Right now, I believe these are the league (not overall) records

Berne Union 1-0
Liberty Union 1-0
Granview Heights 1-0
Harvest Prep? 1-0

Fisher Catholic 0-1
West Jefferson 0-1
Millersport 0-1
Licking Heights? 0-1

(obviously these are listed in no particular order)

[LHHSFOOTBALL]

nope, Heights beat Prep in OT 29-23. Despite the normal punk sh## u get outta harvest and the Horrible Officials u get when u r there!!!!
Great Win!

[57chevy]

Congrats to Heights on a nice comeback win!

[GCdawgDad]

How did Ronnie Dawson play? He's one heck of an athlete!

[LHHSFOOTBALL]

Dawson played Great as always! dont have stat sheet infront of me, but he does sooo much more than wat the sheet says anyhow! hell of an athlete!

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Does anyone know how many players Millersport has on the sidelines?

[Midline Crisis]

Does anyone know how many players Millersport has on the sidelines?

Looked like about 20 +/- last night.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

That's actually good. I heard that they were down to 13 last week.

[gvblu51]

After the first week of league play it appears that any games involving, WJ, GH, LU, LH, and HP playing one another will result in some very exciting Friday
Nights.

Should be an exciting season.

Go Bobcats!!

[WJfan4life]

Grandview is looking good right now, lets see how every one looks in 4 weeks.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

I think right now, it looks as though it'll come between either Grandview, WJ or LU. I think Grandview might have the upper hand right now in the race, having already beaten WJ. Still lots of football to be played.

[WJfan4life]

Grandview wins out they will be MSL Champs, they will be hard to knock off.

[nomorebull]

LU is through their weak part of there schedule. HP,WJ,&GH. It's up to them.

[mhubertbg]

Grandview still has three weeks to go and they're not taking any of those teams lightly, every week counts.

[ccdteacher]

any word on the MSL realignment?

[timbo_hoagie]

any word on the MSL realignment?

I saw it the other day, and it wasn't impressed. It didn't make any sense to me at all. I think LU goes in with AC, BC, and others. Millersport, FC, HP, and others go in with "three unidentified private schools" (FCA, GCC, and someone else??)

I didn't like the realignment...it doesn't seem to be set up regionally, and it doesn't seem to be set up based on school size either.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Where did you happen to find this, timbo?

If these are the actual divisions, then I'm not too sold on them. At the very least, put Lakewood with FC, HP etc. The third mystery private school I think is going to be either Columbus Academy or Worthington Christian. I wouldn't be surprised if Tree of Life and Madison Christian were in the discussions either, but I believe they want a football team to complement the other programs.

[timbo_hoagie]

Where did you happen to find this, timbo?

If these are the actual divisions, then I'm not too sold on them. At the very least, put Lakewood with FC, HP etc. The third mystery private school I think is going to be either Columbus Academy or Worthington Christian. I wouldn't be surprised if Tree of Life and Madison Christian were in the discussions either, but I believe they want a football team to complement the other programs.

Here is is. I happened to see this at a friend's house when the mail came in. I believe you're correct...my first hunch was Worthington Christian, but Columbus Academy would make sense, too.

http://www.libertyunion.org/userfiles/886/Newsletters/2011/October/Newsletter%20%202011%2010%20October%20%20%20Office %202010(1).pdf

[Tiresias]

I had heard that there will be a Fairfield County League, like the Licking County League. Neither will be a part of the MSL.

FU, LU, BU, Millersport, Fisher, F Christian, Bloom and Amanda. I had also heard the Buckeye schools were looking at switching things around. Logan Elm, Circleville and Teays would go with some of the other schools in the Fayette, Pickaway and Ross County schools.

It would leave HT, Grandview,WJ,Academy,Whitehall, Bexley and I'm sure I'm leaving someone out in Franklin County.

Regionalization would cut down on fuel costs and late night road trips especially for middle school programs.

I had heard this a few months ago from some MSL golf coaches but they were talking about all sports.

[Squirmydog]

Where did you happen to find this, timbo?

If these are the actual divisions, then I'm not too sold on them. At the very least, put Lakewood with FC, HP etc. The third mystery private school I think is going to be either Columbus Academy or Worthington Christian. I wouldn't be surprised if Tree of Life and Madison Christian were in the discussions either, but I believe they want a football team to complement the other programs.

What throws the monkey wrench into the works is both WC and Tree have started football at the middle school level. With the problems at Harvest Prep, this will be an interesting off-season to watch in the MSL.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

What they need to do is get Grandview Heights out of the damn Cardinal. No one wants to be traveling inside 670 for athletic events. And kick out Harvest, since they are essentially useless right now.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

For whatever it is worth, according to one pdf file on Fisher's website, the MSL several months ago voted on whether to remove Millersport and Harvest Prep from the Cardinal. Type in "Fisher Catholic billboard" on Google and its the fourth link.

[cwindian]

HP is out all together. MSL was just waiting for OHSAA sanctions. Now the HP lawyers have no leg to stand on and forfeit any chance to fight to stay in.

[timbo_hoagie]

That article from Liberty Union that I posted above was published this month, so I would assume that it is the most up-to-date division of teams. I'm not sure what will happen to HP, but the new Cardinal is already loaded with a few new private schools, so it wouldn't matter anyways.

[gvblu51]

What they need to do is get Grandview Heights out of the damn Cardinal. No one wants to be traveling inside 670 for athletic events. And kick out Harvest, since they are essentially useless right now.

As A Bobcat fan, just to let you know, it is no picnic traveling east out of columbus to most of our games in the MS Cardinal, LOL !!

IMO i would like to see GH, & WJ team up with some other schools west of Columbus, such as MP, Fairbanks, Triad, etc, and form a separate league with NO affillation with the MID STATE.
That way an 8 team league has total control over its own members, and
doesn't have to bow down to teams that are not even in their division. when it comes to decision making about league rules, etc.
I f the Teams are going to be in the Cardinal as in the Liberty Union article,
I would be very much opposed to that, since i feel there are inherent problems, when private/public schools are in the same division of league play.
One only has to look at the HP situation to see what i am referring to.

I may be incorrect but i think the MID STATE league is the only one
(other than the new LCL), that mixes public & private schools.

[WJfan4life]

Buckeye Division

Teays Valley
Hamilton Township
Whitehall-Yearling
Logan Elm
Circleville
Fairfield Union

Ohio Division

Bexley
Amanda Clearcreek
Bloom Carroll
West Jefferson
Liberty Union-Thurston
Columbus Academy

Cardinal Division

Grandview Heights
Berne Union
Fisher Catholic
Harvest Prep
Millersport
(Three Non-Public Districts)

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Looks like Cardinal will be GH, BU, FC, Mport, FCA(?), GCC(?) and NC (?) if that is right.

[gvblu51]

if those divisions are correct that would be 5 private schools in the cardinal of the 8 teams; wow !! Is NC, --Newark Catholic ?? i thought they were going to the LCL ?? since they are loading the Cardinal with private schools then Worthington Christian might be in the mix.
Another concern I have is that many of these teams will not for at least a time have a full slate of sports that is offered at Grandview.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

Oh wait, I forgot NC is leaving...

[timbo_hoagie]

I bet it will be FCA, GCC, and Academy. I don't think the MSL will take WC because of it's lack of football.

[57chevy]

WC is adding varsity football next season I believe

[timbo_hoagie]

WC is adding varsity football next season I believe

Really? I thought they always swore to keep the Crusaders independent so they could draw from anywhere.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

WC is adding varsity by 2013, If I'm correct. They are currently have a junior high team phased into a program, and they are going to do club in 2012 and have OHSAA sanction by 2013, If I'm correct.

[WJfan4life]

ttt

[bogey golfer]

Worthington Christian is the 3rd school. Maybe flip Fairfield Union and Bexley schools are almost the same size. Location wise that would put FU in with 3 other Fairfield County Schools and Bexley in with Whitehall and Hamilton Township.

[WJfan4life]

week 10 for the MSL already.....