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Iceman1022
01-10-2011, 10:33 PM
This weekend at the North Ridgeville After Holiday Tournament, I was absolutely disgusted by one team's coach. Well, from my understanding, he said it was his AD. The weight of his 150# was questioned and as he was reweighed. He tipped the scale at a whopping 188.6, really?! Going to a junior high tournament, where the weigh in is on the honor system and the weights are submitted ahead, there is no excuse. They knew what they were doing. The kid was even trying to prop himself up on whatever he could to lighten the load. No sense in punishing the rest of the team. They let them finish there matches, but their team score should have been stripped. I guess if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'. I wonder if their AD got a call this morning?
Outside of that, the tournament went as smooth as silk. 18 teams, started at 9:30am after a few rebrackets due to some scratches and a team showing up unannounced. The girls HS bball tipped off at 6:30pm.
nkawtg135
01-11-2011, 12:17 AM
For real!!??
It's pathetic that the wrestler wanted to compete knowing he was no where close to 150. It's truly disgusting the coach would participate in such a scam. That's "Contributing to the Deliquancy of a Minor" in my opinion. Maybe not in the legal sense, but certainly it adversely impacts the kid and team. What a poor example.
How about sending this info to the school prinipal and/or BoE?
groundhog
01-11-2011, 07:13 AM
Why not just follow the rules and have a weigh-in for the tournament?
4 jh) Weigh in Regulations: On school days, 7th & 8th grade wrestlers may weigh in at their home schools
prior to lunch for a dual, triangular or quadrangular meet. The weigh -in must be witnessed by an
administrator/designee, and a signed weigh in sheet must presented at the meet prior to the
competition. Weigh-ins for tournaments must be conducted as per existing NFHS rules.
matdad
01-11-2011, 08:18 AM
Why not just follow the rules and have a weigh-in for the tournament?
4 jh) Weigh in Regulations: On school days, 7th & 8th grade wrestlers may weigh in at their home schools
prior to lunch for a dual, triangular or quadrangular meet. The weigh -in must be witnessed by an
administrator/designee, and a signed weigh in sheet must presented at the meet prior to the
competition. Weigh-ins for tournaments must be conducted as per existing NFHS rules.
^^^^^^^^^^Bingo...we have a winner!
Hammerdrill
01-11-2011, 08:38 AM
Wow, yeah no one was going to notice that. What a moron
matdad
01-11-2011, 09:18 AM
Here's a newsflash; coaches are going to cheat. Not every coach, not even most of the coaches, but there are coaches that will cheat...period.
In the incident above, I think it's funny that the coach tried to place the blame on the AD as if he didn't know what his own wrestler weighed.
I would hope the coach would be suspended but that is probably wishful thinking.
cadiztwin
01-11-2011, 11:00 AM
Wow 188.6 that exceeds not only 150 but 160 and 172 which even if he wrestled 172 that is still well over the limit.
1.) I agree matdad Weigh-ins for tournaments must be conducted as per existing NFHS rules.
2.) Coach should be fired, or at least suspend from all events the remained of the season. As a coach you are there to set good examples and be a good role model, and a decent human being. That coach will never get the respect from the kids (that he may or may not deserve) after a stunt like that
3.) The administrator that signed off on the weigh-ins should be suspend without pay.
4.) As far as the wrestler goes I think he should be suspend or kicked off the team depending on what his coach told him he had to do.
5.) Team shouldn't be punished for an ignorant coach.
I hope the school looks at this as not only low down and cheating. But also the huge safety issue. What if this 188lb kid hurt one of the 150lb wrestlers. LAW SUIT in the making= Coach Fired
cleatus
01-11-2011, 12:27 PM
What School?
Iceman1022
01-11-2011, 05:25 PM
I'd prefer not to say what school, but I can tell you that the AD has been called and it is in his hands. I've heard that dismissal for the coach is likely.
BTW, that kid did get pinned in a match and was caught in the consi round, lol.
BroccoliEar
01-12-2011, 08:34 AM
I had a similar situation happen against my team in a dual match while coaching MS in Richmond, VA a few years back, except it was the whole team. Everyone on the team weighed at least 20 pounds over what they wrestled. I tried to get them to weigh in at mat side, but the referee declined that option. He said weigh-ins were done on the honor system, and it was out of his hands. I spoke to the head referee, he said that was correct. When my 150 pound kid was sent to the hospital, I forfeited the dual. A racial mess ensued (which didn't make sense to me, but I guess that sort of thing happens a lot in the south.)
Our athletic director pressed the issue, and the kids were weighed in the next morning in front of a referee. Every kid weighed at least 20 pounds more than the weight class they wrestled. The kid that wrestled 150 weighed 205.
The coach was fired. The principal that signed off on the weights was also fired. The referee shoved one of my parents and was fired as well. What a crazy ending to my one year of coaching in Richmond.
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