Pickerington Central 2011

[picktowncentral]

It's not too early to look ahead a year!!

[BigFOotInOhio]

I agree I think the team will be back and strong as ever. Great group of underclassmen,and I will be at every game to cheer them on. Great job seniors, we truly will miss y'all!

[coke72]

Definitely will miss the seniors. When does the weight room open? get em started while the bad taste is still in their mouths.

[77legend]

What key starters are they losing, and how much experience do their possible replacements have. Interested in knowing, Pick Central seems to always rebuild year after year.

[watwor]

Looking at the roster last night, the defense will be returning a great deal of players. #41,#40,#33, #75,#30,#16,#9,#45, all these guys return. Again, they should be a great running defense. Of course you can always throw #50 in that mix as well. #3,#4,#6 will be missed, but looks like the Tigers defense will be loaded for bear.

Looking at the offense #50,#77,#51,#44,#10,#25,#11,#15, also caught #45 at end and wing. Again, looks like Tigers will be fine

I'm not sure if I missed any players, what underclassmen will be filling some of the spots?

[picktowncentral]

#11 may be a two-way player next year depending on whose back. Is #27 and his twin back? Those guys made some noise this year and will be great next year if they're underclassmen. I don't know who all is coming back seeing as I never bought a program and I don't know for sure. It looks like the front 7 on D and O will be superb while the DB's will be fresh. Time will tell; hit the weight room boys, and come back bigger, stronger, and faster next year!!!!

GO TIGERS!!

[walt]

Okay... as down as I am about our loss last night, this is a topic that cheers me up. Not that we're not losing some great kids to graduation but the cupboard is not bare.

In general we lose the most (in terms of numbers) on the O-line and DBs. Most of the front 7 on defense comes back. For example, last night we rotated 11 kids in the front 7. There were 3 seniors, 6 juniors, and 2 sophomores. Yes, we lose some incredibly talented DBs, but as mentioned on the Davidson game thread, you don't need good DBs to beat Davidson... or Lancaster or most of the teams we play. Most of the teams we play like to grind it out, and to stop that you need a good front 7.

Here's a quick summary of what we have coming back (just listed kids who started or played a lot of varsity):

Offense

Quarterback: #10 Clagg (jr)

Running backs: #25 Pennick (jr) and #27 Clompton (jr)

Fullback/Tight Ends: #47 Baker (jr) and #44 Beaver (jr)

O-line: #50 Boren (jr), #77 Wilson (jr), and #51 Smeltzer (jr)

Receivers: #11 Lewis (jr) and #15 Raymond (jr)

Defense

Line: #75 Cole (jr), #30 Bowers (jr), and #53 Chowoe (jr)

D-Ends/Outside Backers: #50 Boren, #45 Kincaid (jr), and #33 Charlton (soph)

Linebackers: #41 Foster (jr) and #40 Basalayga (soph)

Defensive backs: #9 Eakins (jr), #23 Adam Clompton (jr), and #16 Smith (jr)


Special teams:

Punter: #18 Ellis (jr)
Kicker: #15 Raymond (jr)
Long Snappers: #47 Baker (jr) and #62 Walter (soph)
Holder: #22 Walton (soph)

[walt]

Also,

The JV team finished the season at 6-1 with wins over Pick North, Grove City, and blow outs over Kilbourne, Lancaster, Groveport and Newark.... losing only to Gahanna.

[walt]

When does the weight room open? get em started while the bad taste is still in their mouths.

That was my advice to little Walt and his friends. I told them to remember how bad they felt right after the game... and think about that crappy feeling every time they go in the weight room this off-season. Any time they feel like taking a set off or stopping a rep short of a goal.... remember the pain of this loss.

[picktowncentral]

Yeah, I figured this would cheer a lot of people up after last night. Recent history shows the Tiger's might be just as good next year. In 2006, the team returned a good amount of front 7 on both sides of the ball and it took them to the state finals. In 2008, the team returned a LOT of the front 7, and made it to the state semi's, and barring a missed fumble call (ruled down) that was returned for a TD, probably would have made the state finals. Next year, both sides of the ball return much of the lines and linebackers.

ANOTHER thing that looks good for next year is with the amount of rotating the staff did this year, the number of letter winners (kids with good playing experience) is VERY high!!! Despite the dark loss yesterday, the future looks bright!!

[D'Oro]

With the defeat of the operating levy have any impact on pay to play so to speak next year.That #33 is only a soph. my goodness he could be a force if he physically matures in a year or two.Also that big space eater on the D-Line #72 what year was he.

[walt]

ANOTHER thing that looks good for next year is with the amount of rotating the staff did this year, the number of letter winners (kids with good playing experience) is VERY high!!! Despite the dark loss yesterday, the future looks bright!!

Also, keep in mind we went a few weeks in a row when the JVs played at least a quarter of the varsity game, and in most cases they JVs got in a least a few series of offense and defense against the opposing team's varsity.

Note that our JV defense didn't give up any points in varsity action, despite playing against the varsity offenses of Plainfield, Pick North, Gahanna, Groveport, Newark, and Reynoldsburg.

Likewise the JV offense scored against Pick North, Newark, and Reynoldsburg.

[walt]

With the defeat of the operating levy have any impact on pay to play so to speak next year.That #33 is only a soph. my goodness he could be a force if he physically matures in a year or two.Also that big space eater on the D-Line #72 what year was he.

Yes... #33 is a soph. He's always been big. He was in my son's 3rd grade class and I remember him being taller than my wife (5'3") when he was in 3rd grade. I believe he was 6'4" in 8th grade playing WR.

I believe the big d-lineman you're referring to is #75 (6'3" 300) is a junior.

#72 was a senior who played a snap or two on defense but mostly o-line.

[picktowncentral]

With the defeat of the operating levy have any impact on pay to play so to speak next year.

I have the same questions. I read in the dispatch that the vote isn't being renewed. I hadn't heard about the renewal either. Hopefully it isn't detrimental to the program.

[coke72]

That was my advice to little Walt and his friends. I told them to remember how bad they felt right after the game... and think about that crappy feeling every time they go in the weight room this off-season. Any time they feel like taking a set off or stopping a rep short of a goal.... remember the pain of this loss.


I didn't get to talk to little coke too much today... had to work. will be letting him know though.

Better get that visor off your avatar or it will fog up since it is cold out.

[walt]

With the defeat of the operating levy have any impact on pay to play so to speak next year..

Hard to tell. We've heard our pay to play is going to increase significantly. Right now it's $210 (I think?). I have heard it could be $500 or $600 for football next year.

I think the kids who really want to play football will find a way to come up with the money. Mow a few lawns in the summer or something. The kids on reduced lunch program get waivers for pay to play fees so I'm not sure it would affect families in need.

[D'Oro]

Man what's in the water out there.The defense after the 2nd Qtr was outstanding imo.

[creeksider]

You judge your team's future by looking at the freshman class, not the JV. The freshman will be the senior leaders. The team will go however far the seniors take them.

[Walking Boss]

You judge your team's future by looking at the freshman class, not the JV. The freshman will be the senior leaders. The team will go however far the seniors take them.

Huh? Aren't yesterday's Freshmen today's JV's? You lost me on that one....

[coke72]

I concur. There were some players on JV this year that will definitely contribute next year.

[walt]

You judge your team's future by looking at the freshman class, not the JV. The freshman will be the senior leaders. The team will go however far the seniors take them.

Agree to disagree on this point... for two reasons.

1. Central always moves a handful of freshmen up to JV. This year they moved up a lineman, a RB/DB, a WR/DB, and a RB/LB. Those four all started JV but would have been significant contributors to the freshman team had they not been moved up. The freshman team went 5-3-1 (I think) without them.

2. If you look at one class you are ignoring the fact that at the varsity level you will have a mix of kids from three classes. For example, the 2009 team went 11-2 but those seniors were 1-9 as freshmen. The turn around had to be in part due to the fact that as seniors they had help from a talented junior and sophomore classes. The class of 2013 had a rough freshman year going 2-8 (without a few key kids who moved up) but there is a lot of talent in the class of 2014 and 2015 which will help them out.

[Walking Boss]

Walt: Completely agree. Scioto had a class recently that only lost a game or 2 in middle school then went 9-0 as frosh and then dominated as JV's. Their senior year they were 5-5. Why? A big part of it was due to the fact that the two freshman classes after them were both 0-9. They had zero depth. When a couple kids got hurt and few suspended, it gutted the team because they had no able bodies to fill those spots.

[Webko]

Okay... as down as I am about our loss last night, this is a topic that cheers me up. Not that we're not losing some great kids to graduation but the cupboard is not bare.

Here's a quick summary of what we have coming back (just listed kids who started or played a lot of varsity):

Offense

Quarterback: #10 Clagg (jr)

Running backs: #25 Pennick (jr) and #27 Clompton (jr)

Fullback/Tight Ends: #47 Baker (jr) and #44 Beaver (jr)

O-line: #50 Boren (jr), #77 Wilson (jr), and #51 Smeltzer (jr)

Receivers: #11 Lewis (jr) and #15 Raymond (jr)


Special teams:

Punter: #18 Ellis (jr)
Kicker: #15 Raymond (jr)
Long Snappers: #47 Baker (jr) and #62 Walter (soph)
Holder: #22 Walton (soph)

Walt, you rack me up because you are humble. I think #22 will be easily rotating in the stable of runningbacks. (Or even with the defensive backs.) Your kid has a good head for the game. He needs to gain 15 to 20lbs on his butt.

The offensive line is where my biggest concerns lie. I thought this year's offensive line was the best I've seen from any Tiger team. (Since 2004) I don't know the depth is enough to carry a great line. Do you know who is coming up from the rank and files from the JV's to fill the O'line gaps?

Defensively, I think this will be the Tigers best defense we will ever be witness to. Most of the linebacking core, linemen, and half of the db's are all back in action.

[Walking Boss]

Defensively, I think this will be the Tigers best defense we will ever be witness to. Most of the linebacking core, linemen, and half of the db's are all back in action.

Webbie: I thought the entire secondary graduates?

[Smilewhenulose]

Similar to SUCCESSFUL College & Pro Football programs... TIGERS cupboard is NOT bare by any stretch of the imagination & they WILL re-load as very good programs do!

GO TIGERS!!!

[Webko]

Webbie: I thought the entire secondary graduates?

#6 Smith, Clopton, and #9 Eakins are all returning.

I also think #22 got some skills that will fall nicely as corner or even a safety.

[picktowncentral]

#3, #4, #7, and #8 graduate. Anyone else you saw play secondary is coming back.

[walt]

#6 Smith, Clopton, and #9 Eakins are all returning.



#6 is a senior LB. The only senior LB. The rest of the LBs are back next year.

#16, #23, and #9 saw a lot of action in the secondary this year. All three we regulars in our nickel & dime (as NFL calls them) packages. #16 started a few games in place of Hardy when he was injured.

[Walking Boss]

#3, #4, #7, and #8 graduate. Anyone else you saw play secondary is coming back.

Thank you. That was my point. I wasn't buying the "half" of the secondary returning claim. While there may indeed be experience returning, whoever they are, they are no Carter, Brown, and Hardy.

[picktowncentral]

Thank you. That was my point. I wasn't buying the "half" of the secondary returning claim. While there may indeed be experience returning, whoever they are, they are no Carter, Brown, and Hardy.

They may not be, but with the pressure PC will bring next year, they'll look it!

[Walking Boss]

They may not be, but with the pressure PC will bring next year, they'll look it!

I hear ya' and I know PC returns some beasts along the front 7, however, it is sort of a chicken-and-the-egg scenario. You can afford to send a bunch of people when you have great cover guys. A great rush can make cover guys jobs easier, but it doesn't turn good DBs into great ones.

On another topic, does anyone know what PC's non-OCC schedule looks like? Who they have scheduled for the first 3 games?

[Webko]

Thank you. That was my point. I wasn't buying the "half" of the secondary returning claim. While there may indeed be experience returning, whoever they are, they are no Carter, Brown, and Hardy.

This is where I will disagree with you. Clopton, in my opinion, was one of the best coverage guys we had this year. One of his most brilliant playing times was against Oscar Smith. I was really impressed with his skills throughout the year. I would put in against everyone except #4. I don't think PC has to worry about the DB's at all for next year.

[Walking Boss]

This is where I will disagree with you. Clopton, in my opinion, was one of the best coverage guys we had this year....I would put in against everyone except #4...

Why didn't he start in front of the others then?

[walt]

I hear ya' and I know PC returns some beasts along the front 7, however, it is sort of a chicken-and-the-egg scenario. You can afford to send a bunch of people when you have great cover guys. A great rush can make cover guys jobs easier, but it doesn't turn good DBs into great ones.

Just for the sake of argument...let's be real. 75% (if not more) of the teams in Region 3 run some form of wing-t or veer offense. We have a bunch of Woody Hayes wanna-bes with a "3 yards & a cloud of dust" mentality. Some of those guys are VERY successful. To win Region 3 you have to stop run first. We could have had Polamalu, Revis, Lott, and Sanders in our secondary this year and that would have done nothing to beat Davidson. Heck...we only used 3 DBs against Davidson which means one of our best athletes (#8 Strange) didn't even get on the field (on defense). The front 7 is the key to getting over the hump that is Davidson.

That said... Smith, Clompton, and Eakins would have all started every game last season but for the fact they had four D1 prospects in front of them. By next year at this time all three will have college scouts looking at them. Trust me....they would have started for 95% of the OCC teams this year.


On another topic, does anyone know what PC's non-OCC schedule looks like? Who they have scheduled for the first 3 games?

No word yet but I expect at least one more out-of-state opponent. We had trouble finding in-state opponents this year so I expect the same next year.

[Smilewhenulose]

^^^GO Walt!!! GO TIGERS!!!

[kang99]

For what it's worth, Smith and Eakins were highly rated as soph dbs in several regional and national camps before the season. Lewis can also play Db as well. I believe Adam Clopton did in fact start some games this year. A few of the JV Dbs (#14 Marcus Milton is one that comes to mind) got some varsity experience and should add sufficient depth. I think the defensive backfield will be a very capable compliment to what should be a dominant front seven next year.

[Webko]

I can't ever remembering a Pick Central team that had a weak secondary. It has never been a problem.

[Walking Boss]

That said... Smith, Clompton, and Eakins would have all started every game last season but for the fact they had four D1 prospects in front of them.

Walt: No doubt, but the guys started in front of them because they were better, not because they were D1 prospects. In the opinion of another poster, Compton was second best and should have been starting. I'm just trying to sift through the noise.

By next year at this time all three will have college scouts looking at them. Trust me....they would have started for 95% of the OCC teams this year.

Ditto. And its statements like that one that make the loss to Davidson even more unexplainable. I have yet to see a Davidson post in which they claim their backups are better than virtually every other team in the OCC's starters.

I'm still not buying that those 3 will be better than the 3 they replaced. And to have a "net positive" impact on Central they would have to match what the others did on 'D' and 'O' (and special teams). At the end of the Davidson game, it was Carter and Hardy providing the offensive power.

I'm not intending at all to question the ability of the kids stepping in as replacements, but this thread is starting to take a turn toward "YOU THOUGHT THE TIGERS WERE TOUGH IN '10, JUST WAIT TO SEE US IN '11 BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE EVEN BETTER!!!!" In my opinion, it is going to be a long and insufferable winter, spring, and summer if that is the way every PC thread is going to go.

[kang99]

I don't think that's the intent Walking Boss. At least I hope not. I think PC fans think that we have capable replacements, but to say that they'll be as good as Hardy, Carter, Brown, and Strange may be a stretch. The strength of the defense will obviously be the front seven.

[wmhs84]

Obviously, it remains to be seen how the 2011 team will pan out. I doubt that we will replace the four D1 prospects at db with players of equal caliber (certainly not at all four positions!) But, I know that there are some hungry and capable underclassmen who are already chomping at the bit to get in the weight room and prepare for next year.

For the seniors, it's a real shame for their careers to end with a tough loss like last Saturday. It's tough for the underclassmen as well, but could end up being a real motivator for 2011.

[Walking Boss]

I don't think that's the intent Walking Boss. At least I hope not. I think PC fans think that we have capable replacements, but to say that they'll be as good as Hardy, Carter, Brown, and Strange may be a stretch. The strength of the defense will obviously be the front seven.

Kang: I 100% agree that Pick Central will continue to be a force. I do believe the levy failure will eventually become a not insignificant hurdle, but for the near term, PC will continue to be part of the discussion of R3 powers. The front 7 will be a load. I also think the o-line will be strong. I'm a big fan of the LT (is it Wilson?), sounds like he had problems with Heitzman, but I think everyone did. I think Pennick is a stud too. IMHO, I see a lot more power, jam-it-down-their-throat football from the Tigers next year. I think that will be enough to win the OCC Ohio next year and probably get a 1-4 seed. I just see them being a notch down due to the loss of some of the dynamic athleticism and offensive depth. They were in my top 4 to win state this year. I don't think they'll have that level of talent next year. Just my 2 cents, which some is worth half as much.

[walt]

I have yet to see a Davidson post in which they claim their backups are better than virtually every other team in the OCC's starters.

I bet Davidson has back-ups who are better than starters at most of the OCC schools!

I'm still not buying that those 3 will be better than the 3 they replaced. And to have a "net positive" impact on Central they would have to match what the others did on 'D' and 'O' (and special teams). At the end of the Davidson game, it was Carter and Hardy providing the offensive power.

Go back through the thread. Did anyone say the three mentioned are going to be better than the four we are losing to graduation? I think the point is that there will not be as much of a drop off as you would think.

As I said a few posts ago... in terms of pure quantity, we lose the most at DB and O-line. I just happen to think that the drop off from the DBs we lost to the guys who'll replace them won't be as drastic as the drop off on the o-line for example.

We'll definitely miss Hardy, Carter, and Strange on offense but I think the theme of this thread to this point is that the defense will be very good again next year.

I'm not intending at all to question the ability of the kids stepping in as replacements, but this thread is starting to take a turn toward "YOU THOUGHT THE TIGERS WERE TOUGH IN '10, JUST WAIT TO SEE US IN '11 BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE EVEN BETTER!!!!" In my opinion, it is going to be a long and insufferable winter, spring, and summer if that is the way every PC thread is going to go.

No... The 2010 Tigers were special. The kids coming back will have to work hard in the off-season to maintain the level of play we had this year.

But going back to several of my earlier posts... Our run defense was very good this year (we gave up 1 rushing TD all season - Davidson). I think it's generally accepted that a front seven has more to do with stopping the run than the secondary. We have the majority of kids from the front seven coming back. With another year of maturity and hitting the weights, they will be very good...again.

[Walking Boss]

I bet Davidson has back-ups who are better than starters at most of the OCC schools!

My point was, even if true, you don't hear Davidson fans say it. Saying it smells of arrogance and turns a lot of people off. What a lot of people see as 'haters' are really just people that are turned off and fed up.

Go back through the thread. Did anyone say the three mentioned are going to be better than the four we are losing to graduation? I think the point is that there will not be as much of a drop off as you would think.

Webbie did, at 2:34 yesterday. That is what got the whole subplot rolling. He said he would put Compton up against anyone but Hardy. Only one way to interpret that.

On all other points, I think we are in agreement. Front 7, awesome. CHECK. New DBs, very good. CHECK. Loss of Hardy, Strange, and Carter will hurt the 'D' some, but more harm to 'O'/Special Teams. CHECK. Plenty of seasoned backups ready to step in. CHECK. Not expected to be better than '10, but heck, anything-is-possible-and-the-only-way-we-ill-find-out-is-if everyone-gets-their-rear-ends-in-the-weight-room. CHECK, CHECK, & CHECK.

[b802818]

I'm guessing the levy failure will lower both Pickerington school football rosters by 15-20% in the Fall. You will especially see this at the 7th and 8th grade teams. The % could be even higher here. Instead of 50+ kids on both schools 7th and 8th grade teams, it may be around 30+. That will be a shame because this year year I saw kids who played sparingly on the 7th grade B squad, earn starting positions on the 8th grade A squad(a lot of growing and maturing going on at this age). I'm hearing figures of $700-$800 for all varsity sports(I understand each sport has to be the same $$). Guessing $500-$600 for Jr High. This pay to play may sway a lot of these parents not to let thier kid play. Times are tough enough now and that much money for football vs food on the table, or paying the rent is just a reality in many households these days.

[b802818]

Just to follow up on my last post, you will definitely see a decline in multiple sport athletes at all levels. This is a shame especially at the Jr High level. I have always told my kids and thier friends to play anything and everything at that level. Those are memories that cannot be replaced and times that you will reflect on often when you get older. They will have enough pressure from coaches at the varsity level to choose one sport. Now unfortunatly but understandably, many mom's and dad's will be saying choose 1!

[Smilewhenulose]

My point was, even if true, you don't hear Davidson fans say it. Saying it smells of arrogance and turns a lot of people off. What a lot of people see as 'haters' are really just people that are turned off and fed up.Buford, I abhor this statement that you've made of my TIGER BRETHREN! WE ARE NOT SELF-CENTERED, ARROGANT, EGO-DRIVEN, or NARCISSISTIC!

I Sir... repudiate your stance, therefore I declare that you submit a FORMAL APOLOGY that elaborates how YOU were WRONG and that WE are SUPREMELY SUPERIOR in KNOWLEDGE, WISDOM and TRUTH!!!

Do this NOW and WE shall forgive you of your transgressions against US... DO NOT TARRY on this DEMAND... and Buford, after you formally write your GLOWING LETTER to Everyone in the Huddle.... would you PLEASE HOLD UP OUR MIRROR so that WE can continue to stare at OURSELVES so that WE can proclaim how WE'RE the MOST HUMBLE INDIVIDUALS IN THE WORLD!!!

Thank You. ;)

[kang99]

I'm curious how the levy failure will affect Pickerington extra-curriculars. Is another attempt to pass a levy going to be made in May? And if one passes, would it help Fall activities or just those in 2012?

[b802818]

I'm curious how the levy failure will affect Pickerington extra-curriculars. Is another attempt to pass a levy going to be made in May? And if one passes, would it help Fall activities or just those in 2012?

All extra-curriculars will be 100% student funded. Even non athletic programs. The school board said the 100% pay to play will last one year. So, for example, if they institute it in spring sports and the levy passes in May. It will continue for fall and winter sports. Then in the spring of 2012 the levels would be re adjusted(still will have to pay more than now-even with levy still we will have a budget shortfall and the new Governer has promised more education cuts between 10%-15%).

[coke72]

I also think the o-line will be strong. I'm a big fan of the LT (is it Wilson?), sounds like he had problems with Heitzman, but I think everyone did.

As the O line was mentioned earlier and again here, I will speak to that for a bit..
You are correct, LT is Wilson #77.

I think part of the problems that both tackles had with Heitzman was they gave too much ground at times in the pass set. At times when I focused in on it, it seemed our tackles let him get first contact so to speak. When help was provided, the pocket had already collapsed a bit and allowed the QB to be pestered with Heitzman's long reach.

Losses on the O line are #79 Barker RT, #59 Kinnison C, #72 Burch G - T, #52 Holbrook G, All were either starters or key rotators.

Returning with significant varsity action with current class and position. #50 Boren, JR RG-C-T, #77 Wilson, JR LT, #51 Schmeltzer, JR G-T,

Returners with significant JV action and dressed most Varsity games and saw late game action by current class, Jrs - #71 Linek T, #73 Koesters G -C, #64 Pruitt T, Soph - #60 Gorman, #62 Walters LS-C-T. Freshman - #56 Clouse G - T

Next year will be a mix of experience and 1st year starters. Who fills in with Boren, Wilson and Schmeltzer will likely be determined by offseason weight room and summer practice. Replacing two year starters Kinnison at center and Birch at guard will be the keys to get a solid starting 5.

Of the group noted above, some have size but lack execution while others need to work on size and strength but have the knowledge to execute the offense. Some are in the middle and need a little of both. There were a few other underclassmen on the roster but need the most development and would be long shots in my opinion.

I guess it will come down to who wants it more.

Go Tigers!!!

[Webko]

Webbie did, at 2:34 yesterday. That is what got the whole subplot rolling. He said he would put Compton up against anyone but Hardy. Only one way to interpret that.


I think I know the positions well, as well as an eye for judging talent. I still do not waiver on what I had previously stated. Compton was and is the real deal.

I think Compton played a bigger role in the success of the secondary than credit given. (I don't have a horse in this race debate. It is strictly an observations from watching 13 games and two scrimmages.)

[BigFOotInOhio]

[QUOTE=watwor;4999751]Looking at the roster last night, the defense will be returning a great deal of players. #41,#40,#33, #75,#30,#16,#9,#45, all these guys return. Again, they should be a great running defense. Of course you can always throw #50 in that mix as well. #3,#4,#6 will be missed, but looks like the Tigers defense will be loaded for bear.

Looking at the offense #50,#77,#51,#44,#10,#25,#11,#15, also caught #45 at end and wing. Again, looks like Tigers will be fine

I'm not sure if I missed any players, what underclassmen will be filling some of the spots?[/QU

what about #8 led the d in picks and not mentioned wow!
Good luck #8 you had a hell of a year can't wait to see you playing on the big screen

[BigFOotInOhio]

Y'all just don't get it,PC had 7 D1 recruits on that D and still loss, Ultimately it comes down to coaching.2008 team had 6 D1,2009 7 d1 recruits,Jarret miller would have made 8.this years team had 7.doesn't matter how much talent you have if you can't coach them.

[coke72]

On the defensive side, you can throw in #24 Clouse who played varsity special teams. On JV, he had several picks and has a nose for the ball. He is definitely not afraid to come up and lay the wood.

In my O line summary, I forgot to include the TEs as Big Foot noted. #44 Beaver, # 47 Baker and #45 Kincaid on the wings add some great blocking for the run game. I would like to see Beaver get more involved in the passing game.

Go Tigers!!! Happy Thanksgiving to all.

[watwor]

Kincaid at a wing,or in the backfield.WOW!! at 6'3 240. That would be like a truck hittin you. Looks like a good combination of big guys for the Tigers.

[coke72]

Kincaid at a wing,or in the backfield.WOW!! at 6'3 240. That would be like a truck hittin you. Looks like a good combination of big guys for the Tigers.

He certainly likes to bang around on the field. Saw a series of photos from the HD game where his helmet came off. The look on his face was intense.

[BigFOotInOhio]

After watching the first half of the Wayne, davidson game I'm convinced sherritt just can't coach.

[coke72]

After watching the first half of the Wayne, davidson game I'm convinced sherritt just can't coach.

Step up anytime in a big playoff game to see if you can handle the reins. It is easy to second guess from the stands.

Speaking from the experience of being just a youth coach, sometimes you don't see the forrest for the trees.

You don't get to Coach Sharrett's record without being able to coach.

[sportfan97]

after reading through all the posts on here I was surprised to see the levy issues and the amount of ptp for the pickerington school district. The current ptp of about $200 is already double what is paid at Lancaster and could go up even more? With the amount of taxes paid by pickerington school district residents I would be outraged I had to pay anything for my son or daughter to play a sport. Maybe some residents should think about moving to Lancaster where taxes are a lot cheaper and it costs less to have your kids particiapte in athletics..lol

[84 TIGERS]

SportsFan97: I think we are just fine in Pickerington. I would rather pay more to play than live in Lancaster. Maybe you should move to Pickerington and find out how we do things up here?

[sportfan97]

SportsFan97: I think we are just fine in Pickerington. I would rather pay more to play than live in Lancaster. Maybe you should move to Pickerington and find out how we do things up here?

no im good, I will stay right where I'm at.

[Smilewhenulose]

I respect the fact that BigFootInMouth has the right to his opinion in regards to the coaching... yet in the end, if He would like to apply for the position I would LOVE to see His credentials:

BFIM Coaching Resume' - played 3 years in Pop Warner as OL and PK (do they even Kick the ball in Pop??? Oh well...)/ played 2 years in HS as FB & OLB (junior varsity)/ 1 year as a Hydration Specialist (aka Adam Sandler)/ Coached 2 years of the Mini-Mites as Offensive Coordinator (5-7 yrs old) - they ran the Spread Offense?!/ After 1 year of coaching; BFIM won the "Best Legend in His Mind" Award!

I say....... HIRE B.F.I.M. NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Yippee)

[Webko]

Sportsfan, I had spoken to Coach Carpenter earlier this year. He stated that the impact of pay to play was huge in Lancaster. He felt he lost about 10 to 20% of his players. He also said that there has been an increase in participation this year and the program has rebounded.

If you look at Pick Centrals roster this year and compare to the last 4 years, or even compare it to next year's roster, the amount of kids playing is over 100 each year. Granted the roster includes the JV's but it shows that pay to play has not "greatly" impacted the Tiger program.

That being said, I watched the Davidson game and was sick to my stomach. I know I'm sulking over the Tiger's loss, but heck, I really thought the Tigers "would have had" matched up better in the semis. I know, I know....should have, could have, would have.

[Smilewhenulose]

I watched the Davidson game and was sick to my stomach. I know I'm sulking over the Tiger's loss, but heck, I really thought the Tigers "would have had" matched up better in the semis. I know, I know....should have, could have, would have.Webbie. Step away from the DVR & remote control NOW!!! If YOU refuse... I will have the Bud Light Cheerleaders take you away for "Unbecoming Football Misconduct" of a Fan!

Nothing like REAL PUNISHMENT to help you forget about the past.... Now WAKE UP & get back to WORK!!!! :)

[BigFOotInOhio]

I respect the fact that BigFootInMouth has the right to his opinion in regards to the coaching... yet in the end, if He would like to apply for the position I would LOVE to see His credentials:

BFIM Coaching Resume' - played 3 years in Pop Warner as OL and PK (do they even Kick the ball in Pop??? Oh well...)/ played 2 years in HS as FB & OLB (junior varsity)/ 1 year as a Hydration Specialist (aka Adam Sandler)/ Coached 2 years of the Mini-Mites as Offensive Coordinator (5-7 yrs old) - they ran the Spread Offense?!/ After 1 year of coaching; BFIM won the "Best Legend in His Mind" Award!

I say....... HIRE B.F.I.M. NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Yippee)

Is that the best you have idiot. That's not funny!7-8 D1 recruits over the last 3-4 years and no championship.Can you say Ginn #2

[Smilewhenulose]

BFIM,

I see that I've grown in stature by being labeled an "idiot"... I take that as a sincere compliment. Now, allow me to shred my "fun-loving demeanor" for a moment and ask you a series of serious questions!

Have you EVER coached middle, high school or college level football before? If so, what positions? Have you EVER been a Head Coach for a Middle or High School Football program? If so, what school & how many years did you coach and what was your Win-Loss records?

In regards to Mr. Ted Ginn Sr. I will too admit that I have been a tad harsh for the level of talent that his ball clubs have BUT, his marketplace and environment situations are ALOT different than it would be for a Pickerington, Hilliard, Upper Arlington, New Albany, Westerville and so on. To give those young men a vehicle to be able play a sport that allows them the opportunity to receive a possible FREE Educational Collegiate Experience for most of them would almost seem insurmountable but because Mr. Ginn truly loves and cares for those young men's future - He gives them more than the opportunity to play football - HE GIVES THEM HOPE!!!

As for me... I've coached Girls Softball for 3 years/Coached 1 year of Pop Warner football (Def. Coor.) and I've coached over 7 years of High School football (OLB/DE - specifically). Does that mean that I qualify as a reputable Head Football Coach? Absolutely not!!! BFIM, until YOU place YOUR proverbial "HAT IN THE RING"... all you (and any others) will become nothing more than a talking head that has NO STOCK in the performance or outcome of a BALLGAME!

I wish you well....

[Webko]

Is that the best you have idiot. That's not funny!7-8 D1 recruits over the last 3-4 years and no championship.Can you say Ginn #2

Smiley, deep breaths,.....breathe through the nose and out through the mouth.

Big, I am going to disagree with you about your coaching change at Central. There is an evolution that has been occuring at PC for the past 5 years. Even if you look at PC in terms of separation of Pick North, going from D2 to D1. I think we are ahead of the curve.

Where I will give in a little is that there needs to be an improvement in coaching to eliminate penalties. That is my only criticism of coaching. I am not at practice, so I do not know how this is taught or coached to the kids. I am pretty sure that the coaches teach many fundamentals of football. I do not think we have poor blocking skills or tackling skills. But I do believe that this will evolve for the better. I still have yet to see a team that has "out hit" or was more aggressive on the field than the Tigers. (Maybe Brookehaven 04 or 05)

Every year I keep seeing the Tigers improve slightly from the previous year. The D2 mentality of playing players both ways has really been managed well by the coaches. I didn't see many players playing constantly both ways. I think Sharrett and Lemonico really fielded one of the best Tiger teams that I had seen in 7 years. It was the biggest offensive line and the stingiest defense we had seen.

My point is really to look at the transition from 2006 D2 State finals, to 2007 which was suppose to be a down year for the Tigers, to 2008 where there were 3 strong D1 recruits, to 2009 which was a solid year, to 2010 which to me was the best Tigers' team so far. I think next year we will find the Tigers once again fighting for a spot at the regionals. I think the hurdle will be winning the region again. I really believe that the Tigers will have another strong year. The only weakness that may occur is in the depth of the Oline. Even that may be dependent upon the Tiger weight room in the off season, which again has improved from previous years.

[Smilewhenulose]

Smiley, deep breaths,.....breathe through the nose and out through the mouth.Webbie, how long do I have to keep breathing like this?! Because I fear that I will be getting a few strange looks as I walk through our local Kroger Supermarket as I continue to have LABORED BREATHING!!! :)

[Kill0331]

Hey Pickerington fans...Hope to see some of you taking part in my trivia questions that I will be doing throughout the offseason.

[sportfan97]

Webko, its not the current $100 fee at Lancaster that hurt us. It was in 2006 when the fee was $400 per sport. The 2007 and 2008 seasons were the worse for participation as those two classes had only 11 or 12 athletes on the football team. The normal average per class before the 06' season was between 25 and 30. The numbers are starting to get back to that now.

[walt]

Hey Pickerington fans...Hope to see some of you taking part in my trivia questions that I will be doing throughout the offseason.

I'm not ignoring your trivia questions old buddy....I just haven't been smart enough to know the answers to any of your questions.

[walt]

And Smile...I hear what you are saying. It's easy for someone sitting in the stands to second guess the coaches. If you played JV ball in high school and then coached a pee wee football team you suddenly consider yourself smarter than the guys getting paid to call the shots.

Look how many OSU fans complain about Tress. Everyone thinks they're experts when it comes to football.

[Webko]

Smiley, sorry....you can breathe normally now. I hope you did not hyperventilate.

Guys, I feel so empty inside when I think about the PC loss. I watched the Davidson v. Wayne game in a haze, and couldn't help to think if PC "would have" put up a better game. Or would it have been a bigger blow out against PC? Was it just me that feels like this was the best team Pickerington has put on the field? I really didn't see any weaknesses other than the "p-word."

I think I need to start a support group for sore losers. I will start the session by saying......"Hello. My name is Webko, and I AM a sore loser."

Walt, I'm also holding you and jwcjwc accountable for this pain not occur next year. Get your kids pounding the weights in the off season.

[coke72]

Tiger Football Support group,
Back Room at Romeo's,
Wed evenings at 7:30 pm.
Cookies, pepperoni pizza and purple Kool aid to follow.

If it is all the same to you Webbie (to use Smilely's moniker for you) I will send little Coke to the weight room also. I am going to buy a half a cow this year to feed him a steady all beef diet. LoL

[Smilewhenulose]

And Smile...I hear what you are saying. It's easy for someone sitting in the stands to second guess the coaches. If you played JV ball in high school and then coached a pee wee football team you suddenly consider yourself smarter than the guys getting paid to call the shots. Look how many OSU fans complain about Tress. Everyone thinks they're experts when it comes to football.Walter, there's so many of us (ME included) who wish to criticize but truly don't have the capabilities to even put together a reliable coaching staff... let alone a WINNING football program for players, families and fans alike to appreciate!!!

[Smilewhenulose]

Smiley, sorry....you can breathe normally now. I hope you did not hyperventilate.... I think I need to start a support group for sore losers. I will start the session by saying......"Hello. My name is Webko, and I AM a sore loser."Webbie, you know they say that the admission of guilt.... is the beginning of RECOVERY!

"Hello. My name is Smiley and I'm a recovering Schizophrenic, Multiple Personality Tiger Hater!!! My Best Friends are BFIM, Buford Pusser, Gale-R-on & Kill Joy...... Mommy, is that you?!" :confused:

[OneTiger]

I'm looking forward to a one QB system again. Both QB's perfrormed admirably this year however If Jensen-Clegg gets in a groove I think he can really get things done next year. We'll put a line together and we'll have some quality receivers so hopefully the pass is our strong suit with Pennick and Clopton running to keep the "D" honest. Pay-to-participate could affect things, we'll see. I just don't know if parents who have a player that doesn't get significant playing time will come up with $3-500 for football. Cuts could be made elswhere but thats another can of worms not to be opened here.

[creeksider]

I thought Pickerington was loaded with money. That's how they are portrayed. They could earn some money by doing a fundraiser.....put on an exhibition on how to walk on water.

[tigerblast47]

I'm looking forward to a one QB system again. Both QB's perfrormed admirably this year however If Jensen-Clegg gets in a groove I think he can really get things done next year. We'll put a line together and we'll have some quality receivers so hopefully the pass is our strong suit with Pennick and Clopton running to keep the "D" honest. Pay-to-participate could affect things, we'll see. I just don't know if parents who have a player that doesn't get significant playing time will come up with $3-500 for football. Cuts could be made elswhere but thats another can of worms not to be opened here.

Wouldn't that be something. A one QB system. J-agg as I like to call him (never been a hyphenated last name person) has definitely payed his dues. I just hope his love and passion for the game hasn't changed after the "Thanks for helping us get here, but we don't need you" roll in the Davidson game (up until 1:30 left in the game). Reminded me of the Davidson game and North game at the Crew last year, but if you would ever watch him on the sidelines, he was always getting his team mates fired up.
The talent is there and I can see several players working their butts off for those OL spots. Pennick , Clopton and I believe Bowers will be a force to reckon with in the backfield. Our defense will once again be one of the strongest in the state. ( Lomonico will see to that)

[OneTiger]

I thought Pickerington was loaded with money. That's how they are portrayed. They could earn some money by doing a fundraiser.....put on an exhibition on how to walk on water.

You should have stopped your post at "I thought........" we knew you were lying after that.....;)

[gdtrfb]

I'm looking forward to a one QB system again. Both QB's perfrormed admirably this year however If Jensen-Clegg gets in a groove I think he can really get things done next year. We'll put a line together and we'll have some quality receivers so hopefully the pass is our strong suit with Pennick and Clopton running to keep the "D" honest. Pay-to-participate could affect things, we'll see. I just don't know if parents who have a player that doesn't get significant playing time will come up with $3-500 for football. Cuts could be made elswhere but thats another can of worms not to be opened here.


I suppose this is another "teachers make too much money" jab?? If you mention it, then isn't the can now opened?????

[OneTiger]

I suppose this is another "teachers make too much money" jab?? If you mention it, then isn't the can now opened?????

Thats far too simple in a very complicated equation. As a union member I would never suggest screwing with anothers wage. The "Cadillac" insurance could be adjusted like it has been for the rest of the country. Does a two grade jr. high school really need an ASST. principal? Give me 90k and I flat guarantee I could handle it alone. We have ALL made sacrifices. Hitting parents directly in the pocket is wrong. period.

[BigFOotInOhio]

I've heard a little rumble in the jungle about PC playing in the herbie next season and who they might play.

[TAPEIT]

all i've known is pc talks a good game for the past 10 years

[OneTiger]

all i've known is pc talks a good game for the past 10 years

Theres only been a "PC" since 2004 Einstein. PC walked the walk against UA...........twice in one year. sort of makes us their rightful owner.:eek:

[gdtrfb]

Thats far too simple in a very complicated equation. As a union member I would never suggest screwing with anothers wage. The "Cadillac" insurance could be adjusted like it has been for the rest of the country. Does a two grade jr. high school really need an ASST. principal? Give me 90k and I flat guarantee I could handle it alone. We have ALL made sacrifices. Hitting parents directly in the pocket is wrong. period.

Well made points tiger 1. But from what I have been shown if the teachers gave up all of their insurance entirely, no cost to the district whatsoever, it still is not enough to save art, music, and phys ed. in grades k-6. The teachers have also agreed to changes in insurance sometimes called givebacks each of the last three negotiations. It is by no means cadillac...no where close to congress health care. For example, each tier two or three prescription each year for each family member now has a $100.00 add on cost.. This is a much bigger problem than a cut here and a cut there. We need to demand that the state fix the funding formula that has been found time and time again to be unconstitutional...

[pickcentral]

Don't see any let up in the years to come. The 8th grade team finished the JR high years with only 1 loss (6-0 loss to Groveport). There should be several of those players moving up to JV next year when they are the incoming freshman class.

[Webko]

Well made points tiger 1. But from what I have been shown if the teachers gave up all of their insurance entirely, no cost to the district whatsoever, it still is not enough to save art, music, and phys ed. in grades k-6. The teachers have also agreed to changes in insurance sometimes called givebacks each of the last three negotiations. It is by no means cadillac...no where close to congress health care. For example, each tier two or three prescription each year for each family member now has a $100.00 add on cost.. This is a much bigger problem than a cut here and a cut there. We need to demand that the state fix the funding formula that has been found time and time again to be unconstitutional...

Heavy stuff when speaking about health insurance. There are many variations of insurance. The Picktown plan for teachers is a cadillac plan compared to most businesses. I know this because I have more than a handful of teacher friends in our district. I also carry the burden of deciding on the health insurance plan for our company in Columbus. That being said, I don't think teachers should have to take it on the chin. I really believe we need a "business savy board" to help guide the budgeting process. This concern even goes beyond the school itself. Other than the Embroidery Barn, Picktown really does not have a lot of businesses that produce products. Everything in Picktown is retail. Well.....retail businesses get tax incentives that manufacturers do not receive. The tax breaks place a burden on tax payers to take care of the bills of the community. Hence.....Cost cutting only works for so long before you cut your nose off. Raise the taxes. Look at Dublin, Hilliard, Westerville. Picktown does not demand the most taxes. Eventually, if you want quality you got to pay for it.

God..... I can't believe I'm having a work discussion on this forum. Yikes.....

[gdtrfb]

Heavy stuff when speaking about health insurance. There are many variations of insurance. The Picktown plan for teachers is a cadillac plan compared to most businesses. I know this because I have more than a handful of teacher friends in our district. I also carry the burden of deciding on the health insurance plan for our company in Columbus. That being said, I don't think teachers should have to take it on the chin. I really believe we need a "business savy board" to help guide the budgeting process. This concern even goes beyond the school itself. Other than the Embroidery Barn, Picktown really does not have a lot of businesses that produce products. Everything in Picktown is retail. Well.....retail businesses get tax incentives that manufacturers do not receive. The tax breaks place a burden on tax payers to take care of the bills of the community. Hence.....Cost cutting only works for so long before you cut your nose off. Raise the taxes. Look at Dublin, Hilliard, Westerville. Picktown does not demand the most taxes. Eventually, if you want quality you got to pay for it.

God..... I can't believe I'm having a work discussion on this forum. Yikes.....


Webbie, can't agree more, and I'll also throw myself upon the mercy of JJ.. Sorry for hijacking the thread.. Back to Football....

I have a neighbor kid that played freshman ball and is so jacked by this varsity season that he is lifting with a me and a friend every day after school. We started the Monday after the Hilliard loss. He says... I want to dress varsity next year. That's what it is all about friends.. Working hard to earn something of value. What an outstanding program. Proud to be a tiger....

[DEFENSE]

Pick Cent has one of the top programs in Central Ohio. They have accomplished everything but a state championship. That's nothing to be ashamed of. I really thought this was going to be their year but they came up a tad short. Congrats on a great season from someone outside the program who was rooting for you to go all the way.

[coke72]

Thanks D. Hoping we can put all the pieces together next season.

[bucco_fan]

One Tiger, I would think a two grade junior high doesnt need an assistant principal if there are about 300-400 students there. Obviously both Lakeview and Ridgeview have more than double that. I will bet you really have the knowledge, skills and background to observe and evaluate all teachers as well as support staff, deal with all discipline issues during the day, meet with parents, cover ALL athletic events as well as other evening school functions each night. Hopefully you understand that those are many of the daily duties the principal AND asst. principal do EVERYDAY. So yes, they do need both a principal and asst principal. Finally, I do not work for the district but understand completely what it takes to run a school through my own job experiences.

[OneTiger]

One Tiger, I would think a two grade junior high doesnt need an assistant principal if there are about 300-400 students there. Obviously both Lakeview and Ridgeview have more than double that. I will bet you really have the knowledge, skills and background to observe and evaluate all teachers as well as support staff, deal with all discipline issues during the day, meet with parents, cover ALL athletic events as well as other evening school functions each night. Hopefully you understand that those are many of the daily duties the principal AND asst. principal do EVERYDAY. So yes, they do need both a principal and asst principal. Finally, I do not work for the district but understand completely what it takes to run a school through my own job experiences.

Cover ALL athletic events ?? Really?? I didn't notice that as my kid rolled through there. So from 9-9 some days for 9 mos. they have to work and get "cadillac ins. and retirement" and 90k? I wasn't aware our jr. highs have 800 students. That means PC has around 1600 students which is far,far from accurate. Are you sure you have your figures straight/

[sportfan97]

Cover ALL athletic events ?? Really?? I didn't notice that as my kid rolled through there. So from 9-9 some days for 9 mos. they have to work and get "cadillac ins. and retirement" and 90k? I wasn't aware our jr. highs have 800 students. That means PC has around 1600 students which is far,far from accurate. Are you sure you have your figures straight/

Onetiger, You better double check your facts befring telling someone else to.
Via the OHSAA website school directory there were 628 boys and 595 girls in grades 9-11. That is an average class size of 407.6.

Looks Like Bucco fan was dead on with his figures.

[bucco_fan]

I do not want to hijack this thread so I apologize (a bit) with this response. One Tiger, are you stating those administrators work nine months? Once again, please check your facts before spouting off numbers. Administrators in most districts are contracted 11 months of the year. The evening commitments of course will for the most part cease in June and August but again the requirement is to work those months. July for the most part is not contracted with many principals. I respect your thoughts and opinions, but when you randomly throw out figures you better make sure you do your due diligence.

[coke72]

In the kicking game, the Tigers return their Punter/FG Kicker in Nick Ellis and XP/Field Goal Kicker Jake Raymond. Should have an experienced long snapper in Walter and holder Walton.

In the Return game, Roger Lewis will return to return punts and likely kicks. Penick may return some kicks as well. Piezynscki (sp?) the freshmen RB may return some kicks as well.

Kicking game should be solid for the Tigers.

(just trying to steal the thread back to football topic)

[OneTiger]

I do not want to hijack this thread so I apologize (a bit) with this response. One Tiger, are you stating those administrators work nine months? Once again, please check your facts before spouting off numbers. Administrators in most districts are contracted 11 months of the year. The evening commitments of course will for the most part cease in June and August but again the requirement is to work those months. July for the most part is not contracted with many principals. I respect your thoughts and opinions, but when you randomly throw out figures you better make sure you do your due diligence.

Now that we've clarified class sizes let me say it again. Cuts could be made elsewhere, parents should not have to foot the whole levy failure with $5-700 per student, per activitiy fees. period. Since you and Sportfan are so knowledgable can you breakdown where the 25k per home game gate fee goes? besides busing,equipment and coaches salaries.

[bucco_fan]

I can't answer that one One Tiger. I am not an employee of the district. That would be a good question for the Board to answer.

[OneTiger]

Onetiger, You better double check your facts befring telling someone else to.
Via the OHSAA website school directory there were 628 boys and 595 girls in grades 9-11. That is an average class size of 407.6.

Looks Like Bucco fan was dead on with his figures.

Still smartin from those TWO Pickerington arse whippins SportFan? Just dying to talk a little smack,Huh?:eek: Oh darn,I really got dissed on those enrollment figures. I feel small:eek:

[Webko]

Now that we've clarified class sizes let me say it again. Cuts could be made elsewhere, parents should not have to foot the whole levy failure with $5-700 per student, per activitiy fees. period. Since you and Sportfan are so knowledgable can you breakdown where the 25k per home game gate fee goes? besides busing,equipment and coaches salaries.

You got to figure the breakdown goes to the following areas. I do not know how much goes where. Just kind of thinking out loud on this one. I do kind of ponder this from time to time.

1. Stadium Maintenance- Taking care of our mud pool. (Actually this year the weather favored Tiger Stadium? This would be grass seed, field markings, paint, any wear and tare type of stuff.

2. Insurance- There has to be a per player insurance policy. Some sort of property insurance to protect the school from getting sued. I bet you this is a pretty big expense.

3. Transportation- Paying the Bus company for away games.

4. Officials-

5. Coaches salaries

6. Programs

7. Security- Local Picktown police are usually on premise

8. Stadium Announcer?

9. Utilities- Electric, sewage, gas?....

10. Equipment- Uniforms, blocking dumbies, helmuts, pads, etc.... I don't think they buy uniforms annually or blocking dumbies but there is a replacement value that probably occurs "x" amount of years. (In fact whoever has #42. Check the sewing detail on the Jersey. One of my seamstresses did the sewing on it in 2006. Hehehehehe. Actually true story.)

11. Administration expense....AD, Assistant AD's salaries, and maybe someone specifically in charge of Tiger Stadium.

12. Maintenance worker Salaries. Any labor to repair or fix anything within the stadium. Also would include stadium clean up at the end of the games.

13. Local and state licenses. I'm pretty sure that you have to be accountable that the stadium is safe to handle a certain capacity...etc.... Even supplying food at concession should have some sort of licensing process to take care of.

I don't know the cost of these categories, but it does add up really quick. I do believe the concessions take care of themselves in terms of replenishing stock and putting some padding in the pockets for other sports. I bet the football income takes care of 3/4 of the sports.

[mightymightytigers]

You got to figure the breakdown goes to the following areas. I do not know how much goes where. Just kind of thinking out loud on this one. I do kind of ponder this from time to time.

1. Stadium Maintenance- Taking care of our mud pool. (Actually this year the weather favored Tiger Stadium? This would be grass seed, field markings, paint, any wear and tare type of stuff.

2. Insurance- There has to be a per player insurance policy. Some sort of property insurance to protect the school from getting sued. I bet you this is a pretty big expense.

3. Transportation- Paying the Bus company for away games.

4. Officials-

5. Coaches salaries

6. Programs

7. Security- Local Picktown police are usually on premise

8. Stadium Announcer?

9. Utilities- Electric, sewage, gas?....

10. Equipment- Uniforms, blocking dumbies, helmuts, pads, etc.... I don't think they buy uniforms annually or blocking dumbies but there is a replacement value that probably occurs "x" amount of years. (In fact whoever has #42. Check the sewing detail on the Jersey. One of my seamstresses did the sewing on it in 2006. Hehehehehe. Actually true story.)

11. Administration expense....AD, Assistant AD's salaries, and maybe someone specifically in charge of Tiger Stadium.

12. Maintenance worker Salaries. Any labor to repair or fix anything within the stadium. Also would include stadium clean up at the end of the games.

13. Local and state licenses. I'm pretty sure that you have to be accountable that the stadium is safe to handle a certain capacity...etc.... Even supplying food at concession should have some sort of licensing process to take care of.

I don't know the cost of these categories, but it does add up really quick. I do believe the concessions take care of themselves in terms of replenishing stock and putting some padding in the pockets for other sports. I bet the football income takes care of 3/4 of the sports.

Plus does some of the football money go into the athletic pool to fund some of the sports that do not make an income? I though I heard that before.

[Smilewhenulose]

Santa,

All I want for Christmas is... World Peace, Higher Paid Salaries & a P. Central Tigers Football State Championship Victory!!! (I'm not sure in what order though....) Thank you Santa!

[OneTiger]

You got to figure the breakdown goes to the following areas. I do not know how much goes where. Just kind of thinking out loud on this one. I do kind of ponder this from time to time.

1. Stadium Maintenance- Taking care of our mud pool. (Actually this year the weather favored Tiger Stadium? This would be grass seed, field markings, paint, any wear and tare type of stuff.

2. Insurance- There has to be a per player insurance policy. Some sort of property insurance to protect the school from getting sued. I bet you this is a pretty big expense.

3. Transportation- Paying the Bus company for away games.

4. Officials-

5. Coaches salaries

6. Programs

7. Security- Local Picktown police are usually on premise

8. Stadium Announcer?

9. Utilities- Electric, sewage, gas?....

10. Equipment- Uniforms, blocking dumbies, helmuts, pads, etc.... I don't think they buy uniforms annually or blocking dumbies but there is a replacement value that probably occurs "x" amount of years. (In fact whoever has #42. Check the sewing detail on the Jersey. One of my seamstresses did the sewing on it in 2006. Hehehehehe. Actually true story.)

11. Administration expense....AD, Assistant AD's salaries, and maybe someone specifically in charge of Tiger Stadium.

12. Maintenance worker Salaries. Any labor to repair or fix anything within the stadium. Also would include stadium clean up at the end of the games.

13. Local and state licenses. I'm pretty sure that you have to be accountable that the stadium is safe to handle a certain capacity...etc.... Even supplying food at concession should have some sort of licensing process to take care of.

I don't know the cost of these categories, but it does add up really quick. I do believe the concessions take care of themselves in terms of replenishing stock and putting some padding in the pockets for other sports. I bet the football income takes care of 3/4 of the sports.

Wow!!,kind of makes one wonder how school districts have been affording football since the fourties and fifties without pay-to-participate? Should every sport go "Club" and be self-sufficient?

[bucco_fan]

OneTiger, you bring up a great question. That wouldn't shock a lot of people if that were to happen many years down the line for every sport and many non-sport activities. You make mention of football since the forties and fifties but what about the low to non-generating money sports? I guess the back has to break at some point in time. Thankfully, football in Central Ohio brings in some money to offset that. By the way, many people do not realize that Ohio is one of only a handful of states in the whole country where people have a choice in voting approval/disapproval of operating levies and bond issues. Given most people if you are going to ask if you really want to pay more in taxes, the answer is most of the time going to be no.

[coke72]

Santa,

All I want for Christmas is... World Peace, Higher Paid Salaries & a P. Central Tigers Football State Championship Victory!!! (I'm not sure in what order though....) Thank you Santa!


I asked Santa (and JJ) to move all of the political and non football talk off this thread and let all the football lovin mo's get back to the discussion noted in the topic.

[Smilewhenulose]

I asked Santa (and JJ) to move all of the political and non football talk off this thread and let all the football lovin mo's get back to the discussion noted in the topic.Now Pepsi... you wouldn't be in favor of a "dictatorship" political regime now would you?!:)

[cleatus]

Sorry to digress..I attended the Davidson Pick Game. Who were the non particpating adults on the sidelines during the game? There was a group of about 8-10 that served no purpose except to obstruct the view of the field. It struck me as odd. Who are they?

[OneTiger]

Sorry to digress..I attended the Davidson Pick Game. Who were the non particpating adults on the sidelines during the game? There was a group of about 8-10 that served no purpose except to obstruct the view of the field. It struck me as odd. Who are they?

I think it was,Coke72,Walt,Smilewhenulose,Webko,TigerBlast47, and some other huddlers.........Geez guys!;)

[Smilewhenulose]

I think it was,Coke72,Walt,Smilewhenulose,Webko,TigerBlast47, and some other huddlers.........Geez guys!;)
1Tigger,

Sheesh... can I at least be "non-participatory" in the stands for once and stuff my mouth with nacho cheese sauce & tortilla chips without having to validate my FAN-dom??? I guess not!!! Oh well....:eek:

[tigerblast47]

I think it was,Coke72,Walt,Smilewhenulose,Webko,TigerBlast47, and some other huddlers.........Geez guys!;)

I'm not a part of that posse OneTiger. I'm a loner and floater. My pre-game tune up usually keeps me close to the facilities.

[Webko]

I had put a couple pounds on so maybe that "so called" group was just me.

On the serious side of this, I know that PC allows former players on the sidelines. I do like to peak down there sometimes to see any recognizable former players.

[coke72]

Sorry to digress..I attended the Davidson Pick Game. Who were the non particpating adults on the sidelines during the game? There was a group of about 8-10 that served no purpose except to obstruct the view of the field. It struck me as odd. Who are they?

They typically have the Freshmen and some of the Jr. High Coaches on the sideline during the games. I recognize them from my son coming up and my daughter cheering for the Jr. High squads the last couple of years.

I think it was,Coke72,Walt,Smilewhenulose,Webko,TigerBlast47, and some other huddlers.........Geez guys!;)

My group was sitting at the north end 35 yard line :p.... I couldn't get any Nacho's Smiley consumed them all.. :D

I had put a couple pounds on so maybe that "so called" group was just me.

On the serious side of this, I know that PC allows former players on the sidelines. I do like to peak down there sometimes to see any recognizable former players.

I can validate what Webko said, you typically see Alumni on the sidelines during the Tiger contests.

Cleatus, If you don't like the view from down low, venture into the stands and grab a seat. That is what they are there for. :eek:

[coke72]

The Tigers should return a veteran group of ball boys and water boys next year.

The ball boys will be looking to improve their completion percentage. Too many balls hit the ground this year. An offseason in the weight room and ball drills should help with arm stregth and accuracy. If they want to go deeper in the playoffs, they will need to improve their game.

The hydration staff will be attending clinics on H2O quality, timely delivery, towel service and ADD therapy. Often caught watching the game versus delivering much needed hydration. The time out drills will be intense in the off season. Most will give up T ball and baseball this summer to attend camps.

Happy Holidays All!!

[Webko]

There should be a second season to football........I miss Friday nights.

I am grateful for another solid Tiger year. But man I still sting from the Davidson game. As a fan, I am thankful that the second half of that game was spent standing up and cheering for the Tigers. It was a very energizing second half of football. Davidson clung on to there lead and made it happen for themselves.

I guess the most painful "thing" to me is knowing this was one of the best Tiger teams I had seen in 7 years. I can only think that a team like this comes every so many years, and eventually your competition catches up with you.

I'm hoping that we will develop a strong offensive line similar to this year. I am also hoping that PC returns to a "featured" back, as I think Pennick could dominate with more touches. He reminds me alot like Jordan Jarrell of 2006, except with more speed.

I like our QB situation. The experience coming back to this next year will be huge. I am not certain of our wideouts, but usually PC does not lack in this area. The skilled positions should be another lock for next year.

Defensively, I have a tough time thinking that PC will be second to anyone again. The linebacking core will be the best in the State, so should the defensive line. I think this defense will be crazy good again.

I hope the program evolves to the next step which focuses on eliminating mental mistakes and thrives on capitalizing on the competitors' mistakes. (The earlier being the most important.) I just keep thinking if there were 3 less penalties in the first half "would we have" pulled the Davidson game in a different direction.

Just some armchair thoughts on a snowy day in December.

[tigerblast47]

There should be a second season to football........I miss Friday nights.

I totally agree Webko. I'm going through some major withdrawls here.

I am grateful for another solid Tiger year. But man I still sting from the Davidson game. As a fan, I am thankful that the second half of that game was spent standing up and cheering for the Tigers. It was a very energizing second half of football. Davidson clung on to there lead and made it happen for themselves.

That first half has to be some sort of record for the Tigers. Zero yards, zero first downs.

I guess the most painful "thing" to me is knowing this was one of the best Tiger teams I had seen in 7 years. I can only think that a team like this comes every so many years, and eventually your competition catches up with you.

I'm hoping that we will develop a strong offensive line similar to this year. I am also hoping that PC returns to a "featured" back, as I think Pennick could dominate with more touches. He reminds me alot like Jordan Jarrell of 2006, except with more speed.

Amen Webko!! I feel he was grossly under utilized this year. He has the potential of being one of the premier backs in the state.

I like our QB situation. The experience coming back to this next year will be huge. I am not certain of our wideouts, but usually PC does not lack in this area. The skilled positions should be another lock for next year.

Lets just pray we go to a one QB offense. Jensen-Clagg has proven what he can do if you leave him in there for more than one snap. Lewis, Raymond and I'm telling you right now, Sebastian Smith, with his size, speed and hands has the potential to be one of the best in the state, will give us an awesome receiving core. Our offense needs an identity similar to our defense. Everyone knows state wide every year our defense is going to be one of the best.,

Defensively, I have a tough time thinking that PC will be second to anyone again. The linebacking core will be the best in the State, so should the defensive line. I think this defense will be crazy good again.

Hard to imagine they will be as good or better, but there's no doubt they will be.

I hope the program evolves to the next step which focuses on eliminating mental mistakes and thrives on capitalizing on the competitors' mistakes. (The earlier being the most important.) I just keep thinking if there were 3 less penalties in the first half "would we have" pulled the Davidson game in a different direction.

Discipline, Discipline,Discipline

Just some armchair thoughts on a snowy day in December.

We have the athletes. How that talent will be managed is crucial.

[OneTiger]

Good comments Webko and TigerBlast. I am a firm believer in the importance of off-season happenings of the Tiger football players. If they aren't in a winter/spring sport get in that weight room. The monday following the 2006 state final my son and many others began working out for the next year. Prospective "O" line starters should be hitting it hard. What a difference a strong "O" line makes. Both QB's had time to set up and throw this year,or pump and run. Braxton Miller is an example of how important a dominant QB can be to a team. I am certainly not comparing the two but Jensen-Clagg can and should be a huge factor in the Tigers success next year. Once again several "O" players will get touches each game. Tiger defenses have been amazing to watch and next year should be no different.

[Walking Boss]

http://www.scoutingohio.com/index.php/view-profile.html?task=userProfile&user=6576&name=taco33charlton

Taco (class of 2013) gets an offer from the 'nati. With Tamani Carter moving on, will Taco become Jcfb's favorite Tiger?

[jcfbdad]

http://www.scoutingohio.com/index.php/view-profile.html?task=userProfile&user=6576&name=taco33charlton

Taco (class of 2013) gets an offer from the 'nati. With Tamani Carter moving on, will Taco become Jcfb's favorite Tiger?


lol I was planning on making a congrats thread for Taco. This is only the beginning for him there will be many more to come.

With regards to Tamani I expect him to make his decision soon. Arizona or Michigan:eek:.

[TAPEIT]

elvis had the Memphis mafia pc has the sideline mafia

[Webko]

Well it's Christmas time. I guess that means that there is only 8 months to until the first scrimmage and another terrific Tiger season ahead.

Merry Christmas Tiger fans! Enjoy your new year. Thanks for the football fun.

[coke72]

Looking forward to waking up on Christmas Morning in my Tiger Jammies (feet included) to find Tiger Treasures under the tree.....

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all and God Bless for a happy and safe Holiday Season.

[walt]

I just want to state publicly... there is no truth to the rumor that Little Walt sold his Ironman and Thunderstruck shirts (true Tiger fans know what those are), and/or traded his autograph for a temporary tattoo (I won't ever let him get a real tatt).

[galeron]

Merry christmas to tiger nation. I have stated before I love you guys passion for your team. We have a great rivalry but when all talk is done I do believe we have great respect for each others teams. Nothing better than tigers vs gales. Merry christmas

[picktownbanddad]

Merry Christmas

[coke72]

I just want to state publicly... there is no truth to the rumor that Little Walt sold his Ironman and Thunderstruck shirts (true Tiger fans know what those are), and/or traded his autograph for a temporary tattoo (I won't ever let him get a real tatt).

Hmmmmm....... What about the new/used vehicle in the driveway..... which booster supplied that? Huh?

For the record, little coke got his laptop from Santa. His Tiger Paws are safely applied to the scrapbook pages. Locked in the safe until he is old enough to appreciate the accomplishments. Tried to sell some of his Tiger Football T's but the price dropped due the wear and tear from wearing them to school everyday.

[84 TIGERS]

Walt, If your son wants a tatoo you should let him. Its better than a pair of girly ear rings. Tatoos are more manly for sure. I should know!!!

[picktownbanddad]

Any word on the Tiger's week 1 and 2 opponents?

[coke72]

Walt, If your son wants a tatoo you should let him. Its better than a pair of girly ear rings. Tatoos are more manly for sure. I should know!!!

He might get a Tr*** stamp like his dad..... :eek:

[pc_tigers]

Any word on the Tiger's week 1 and 2 opponents?

No info yet ...

[OneTiger]

Walt, If your son wants a tatoo you should let him. Its better than a pair of girly ear rings. Tatoos are more manly for sure. I should know!!!

I work with a guy who has a barb-wire tatoo around his bicep. His arms are about the size of a #2 pencil. Thats not manly.:rolleyes:

[walt]

Any word on the Tiger's week 1 and 2 opponents?

What about week 3? Last I heard we did not have any definite games scheduled for the first three weeks. However, I've heard rumors about some possibilities.

He might get a Tr*** stamp like his dad..... :eek:

And a belly button piercing....

[coke72]

And a belly button piercing....


Nice!

[BigFOotInOhio]

Week one tigers might face Don bosco

[BigFOotInOhio]

Tigers will probably face Don bosco in the herbie or Florida aquinas.

[pc_tigers]

Tigers will probably face Don bosco in the herbie or Florida aquinas.

Latest is a team from Georgia on Labor Day (week 2)

.... Also Tamani Carter committed to Minnesota this morning .... congrats .. great young man from a great family

[thefree2710]

Congrats to Tamani and his family. Free education! Can't beat it

[galeron]

Congrats to Tamani Carter from Gale Nation. I felt he was kind of the unsong one for the Tigers. Well deserved !!

[gdtrfb]

Had Tamani in class more than a few years ago. Neat kid, very driven, always had one eye on his goals even as a youngster. Funny, as a former coach and someone that has taught younger kids for a long time, you can see those qualities in the classroom as a youngster that will translate to the field as a young adult. Tamani is a true example that ability will only get you so far. You have to have the work ethic and mental edge to excel. Good luck Tamani and thanks....

[coke72]

Had Tamani in class more than a few years ago. Neat kid, very driven, always had one eye on his goals even as a youngster. Funny, as a former coach and someone that has taught younger kids for a long time, you can see those qualities in the classroom as a youngster that will translate to the field as a young adult. Tamani is a true example that ability will only get you so far. You have to have the work ethic and mental edge to excel. Good luck Tamani and thanks....

I think you will see more than one highlight from Tamani in college. He was like Gumby with the ball in his hands making people miss.

[gdtrfb]

O.K. check it out below
http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/pickerington/stories/2011/01/19/sports/Carter-changes-to-Michigan.html?sid=104

So, I still think a lot of Tamani, but my Buckeye side is gonna have to start hating him....tongue in cheek a little.....

[jcfbdad]

O.K. check it out below
http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/pickerington/stories/2011/01/19/sports/Carter-changes-to-Michigan.html?sid=104

So, I still think a lot of Tamani, but my Buckeye side is gonna have to start hating him....tongue in cheek a little.....

Congrats Tamani had a feeling that this was going to happen.

[knight43210]

Its great to see players move on to the next level no matter what Division it may be. You generate a passion for the game and its hard to walk away from it. Best of luck to this years seniors whether they play at the next level or not. Next years senior class (2012) should produce several college players as well.

[jcfbdad]

Its great to see players move on to the next level no matter what Division it may be. You generate a passion for the game and its hard to walk away from it. Best of luck to this years seniors whether they play at the next level or not. Next years senior class (2012) should produce several college players as well.

Good post. One thing is for sure no matter what level one plays at next the coaching staff there will expect you to give them 100% be it D1 or D3.

[coke72]

Congrats to Tamani. Hope he will part of a resurgence at the school up north. Except in the Buckeye game. :D

[OneTiger]

Just read the PLSD 'cuts" report. The pre-school psychologist and vice-principals of elementary and middle schools got axed, along with some others. On the final page it states pay-to-participate will increase but not how much. Brace yourselves. I'm guessing 350 -400$.

[gdtrfb]

Just read the PLSD 'cuts" report. The pre-school psychologist and vice-principals of elementary and middle schools got axed, along with some others. On the final page it states pay-to-participate will increase but not how much. Brace yourselves. I'm guessing 350 -400$.

I'm betting and hearing closer to $700-800 across the board. The tiered system would not be compatible with Title IX. The board is also discussing NO FEE WAIVERS for sports, which I feel is long overdue. With fully funded sports the school is not paying these waivers, the other parents would be asked to pay more so that free and reduced lunch kids could play sports for free. I also heard that an AD is gone and the other athletic director would be asked to do both schools. Like that is going to work.

[walt]

I've heard $600-$700 thrown out there.

And for the AD....rumor has it that Aprilie will be THE AD for the entire district and he'll be getting a king's ransom as compensation for the additional work.

[OneTiger]

I've heard $600-$700 thrown out there.

And for the AD....rumor has it that Aprilie will be THE AD for the entire district and he'll be getting a king's ransom as compensation for the additional work.

A friends son who plays football for north told me Tuesday Aprile was fired effective end of school year 10/11. I've also heard about one AD for the entire district.

[sportfan97]

Sounds like the Almighty pickerington school district fleecing of tax payers is finally catching up with them. Just out of curiosity how much are property taxes in that school district per $100,000?

[Hofinannr1]

Sounds like the Almighty pickerington school district fleecing of tax payers is finally catching up with them. Just out of curiosity how much are property taxes in that school district per $100,000?

About $1500.

[sportfan97]

Is that total tax or just the school districts portion?

[bigdogdad]

As a parent who was held hostage last year by the Big Walnut LSD, I can say the bigger programs such as football won't see much of a drop off, but wrestling, track, maybe basketball will see it. Love to see what they do with band in the P-town LSD. That has always been a big participating activity for the non-athletes. Get in and hang on cause it ############### until they pass a levy. Then you hope it's not too late to recover from the damage. On a side note, it will be interesting how many SWSD transfers will move back. Kind of ironic how some teams in the district benefited now the shoe is on the other foot.

[bigdogdad]

Wow, didn't know JJ censored the word S!@k. What if I said I had a Wendy's frosty and it was a bear to s%^k it through a straw.

[sportfan97]

Its because that word and pickerington is not allowed to be mentioned together....you might upset onetiger...lol

[OneTiger]

Its because that word and pickerington is not allowed to be mentioned together....you might upset onetiger...lol

But "Lancaster" and "sweep" by Pickerington is fine ...........mentioned together.......really lol.:eek:

[Hofinannr1]

Is that total tax or just the school districts portion?

Total tax per $100k, not sure what the breakdown is. I paid $650 in school taxes per my W2.

[sportfan97]

So pickerington has a 1%-2% income tax for the schools in adaition to previous bond issues passed for new schools and operating costs? Its no wonder the tax payers finally said no to another levy.

[Hofinannr1]

According to my math it is 1.5% for school taxes. I believe that what I pay in taxes for the quality education my child gets is well worth it. I moved to Pickerington for the school district which has an excellence with distinction rating. I don't mind paying the taxes for high quality.

[gdtrfb]

The taxes are high because whenever a business that is not a pizza place comes to town, folks show up at the council meetings and start screaming, "Not in my backyard". Which is fine if that is the type of community you want to live in. The choice for this community then becomes pay more for the schools than say a Hilliard does, (which has a nice industrial tax base), or have a less than Excellent with Distinction school district. Just keep in mind, home values are directly tied to the schools. If there are no opportunities for kids whether they be sports or other extra-curriculars, then there is no point of paying 3600 a year for a 200,000 home. The taxes are high, and the schools are awesome. I am willing to pay for quality. Both of my kids have since graduated and are doing very well. They completely benefited from their time on the field and in the classroom.

[pc_tigers]

A friends son who plays football for north told me Tuesday Aprile was fired effective end of school year 10/11. I've also heard about one AD for the entire district.

You might want to go to the school board meetings, and find out what is really going on........ instead of hearing it through the rumor tree....

[OneTiger]

You might want to go to the school board meetings, and find out what is really going on........ instead of hearing it through the rumor tree....

Some of us have situations like divorce,child care, caring for elderly parents and such that don't allow us to go every where we want. You might want to just row your own boat. The school board has deceived us several times since I brought my family here in 1996. Even if I get my info directly from the meeting it well may change the following day. I personally have always supported the schools. The quality of the school system is directly related to home values. That same quality along with his hard work resulted in my son receiving a full acedemic scholarship to a major university. I believe the last positions to be cut should be teachers,teacher/coaches,nurses and janitors.

[Walking Boss]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/01/31/Pickerington-schools-delay-levy-vote.html?sid=101

Levy being moved from May to August per the Dispatch. Probably a good idea to wait a little longer to know what the state cuts will be. Will definitely throw some uncertainty into the summer sessions however, re: families not knowing how much they will have to pay per sport. I can tell you one thing, though, if the article is accurate and Pickerington really gets 51 cents every dollar it spends from people outside of Pickerington (i.e. "the State"), it had better prepare for the worst because State funding i.e. (re-allocations) are going to get slashed. Just my 2 cents.

[gdtrfb]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/01/31/Pickerington-schools-delay-levy-vote.html?sid=101

Levy being moved from May to August per the Dispatch. Probably a good idea to wait a little longer to know what the state cuts will be. Will definitely throw some uncertainty into the summer sessions however, re: families not knowing how much they will have to pay per sport. I can tell you one thing, though, if the article is accurate and Pickerington really gets 51 cents every dollar it spends from people outside of Pickerington (i.e. "the State"), it had better prepare for the worst because State funding i.e. (re-allocations) are going to get slashed. Just my 2 cents.


If the board would not know until March how much (or little) they would be getting from the state I don't get how they could even put a levy on the ballot. How can you ask the voters for money when you don't really know how much you need? I figured that one out and I'm not "School Board Caliber".. Unbelievable....

[Walking Boss]

gdtrfb: I don't disagree. The timing is tough either way. I'm just saying from the point of view of fall athletics, the timing is horrible. You'll have kids and coaches sweating away during two-a-days not knowing how much they're going to have to pay to play. It was a messy situation at the SWC schools with an August levy back in '09. Of course, the ultimate consequence there was much more dire (no sports, as opposed to $900 pay-to-play or whatever). Either way, very tough situation.

[longballhitter]

Actually, They will have decided PTP by then. Any levy passed this calender year won't start to be collected until Jan of '12. Therefor the '11/'12 school year budget will have already been passed. Monies collected in '12 can't be spent until the 12'/'13 school year............But, WB as you said, "Either way, very tough situation"

[knight43210]

You beat me to it.

[gdtrfb]

Boss Man, as usual, you are on the money... I couldn't agree more. Many factors are messing with this process. and the families and the kids are the ones who will have to wait and sweat it out. Ultimately, I feel that there needs to be a better way to fund schools. This cut funding, hit the homeowners up for more plan is at its breaking point. This system has been deemed unconstitutional for almost 20 years now..

[Walking Boss]

Actually, They will have decided PTP by then. Any levy passed this calender year won't start to be collected until Jan of '12. Therefor the '11/'12 school year budget will have already been passed. Monies collected in '12 can't be spent until the 12'/'13 school year............But, WB as you said, "Either way, very tough situation"

Longball: I agree that the results of the levy would not impact taxes until Jan '12 at the earliest (whether it be passed in May or August). Not sure I'm with you on the 11/12 budget, though. Most school budgeting, at least that I familiar with, is a multi-year budget. If you are suggesting that the 11/12 budget will "already be passed" by then, that would suggest that pay-to-play rates and such will already be set by then and the results of the levy won't matter for 11/12. I'm not sure I agree. Not trying to be argumentative. Just trying to understand.

[bigdogdad]

Unfortunately it seems like a home owner is becoming more and more burdened with paying for any and all services. Not only schools, but fire, library, Sr. citizens, 911 services, MRDD, Twp. roads and I'm sure I missed a few. It all has become one big flipping mess. I'd really like to know what local taxes go for any more. Is it salaries for fat cat office holders? My recent tax bill had so many line items it was disgusting. I've always been generous in my approval votes for pretty much everything, but it has to stop some time. As I have stated many times before, it seems the school districts know they will get sympathy votes if they hit the right buttons and cut programs that mean the most. Next thing you know, they will have a charge for cooking the nasty lunches they serve and for custodial services.

[longballhitter]

Longball: I agree that the results of the levy would not impact taxes until Jan '12 at the earliest (whether it be passed in May or August). Not sure I'm with you on the 11/12 budget, though. Most school budgeting, at least that I familiar with, is a multi-year budget. If you are suggesting that the 11/12 budget will "already be passed" by then, that would suggest that pay-to-play rates and such will already be set by then and the results of the levy won't matter for 11/12. I'm not sure I agree. Not trying to be argumentative. Just trying to understand.

Congrats on your 1000th post!. By 'allready passed', I mean by the Board. You are refering to the 5 year forecast every school has to generate every year.

[Walking Boss]

Congrats on your 1000th post!.

Thanks.

By 'already passed', I mean by the Board. You are refering to the 5 year forecast every school has to generate every year.

I guess I'm still not totally clear on what you're saying relative to PTP. Are you saying the Board will have to decide PTP amount before the August levy and will be unable to change it despite the outcome of the levy? That is sort of what I am understanding you to say, and that is what I don't 100% agree with. Again, not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand.

[longballhitter]

Thanks.



I guess I'm still not totally clear on what you're saying relative to PTP. Are you saying the Board will have to decide PTP amount before the August levy and will be unable to change it despite the outcome of the levy? That is sort of what I am understanding you to say, and that is what I don't 100% agree with. Again, not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand.

I take your statements for what they are..........Not argumentative. I think we both understand that each other is fair.

Yes, That is what I'm saying. The same can be said about the current school year budget not changing when the levy failed in November. Monies are already allocated and budgeted.

School will have almost started (fall sports WILL have started) when the August (If they decide to hold the vote. They could wait til Nov.) vote will be counted. Those monies will not be collected in the form of taxes til Jan. of 12 for the 12/13 school year.

http://www.pickerington.k12.oh.us/userfiles/1400/PLSDFinancialUpdate11011.pdf

I think everyone, no matter school afiliation, will find this interesting. Dig a little on any school website and you will find what you are looking for.

[Walking Boss]

longball: What I'm interested in specifically is Pay-to-Play and I don't see that mentioned anywhere in the funding presentation you attached. Earlier discussions said that since the Levy failed in November, PTP would have to go up. If they are going to take another shot at trying to pass the levy, whether it be May or August, logic would suggest that if it were to pass the next time, Pay-to-Play wouldn't have to go up. Unless what you are suggesting is that either May or August is too late, and that 11/12 PTP rates will be set by the board this spring without regard to the success or failure of the levy. I'm just not sure I buy that.

[longballhitter]

Boss, Correct. PTP is not mentioned. I was just attempting to educate on the budget process. With 13 million in the hole, IMHO PTP will HAVE to go up, but has not been published so.

From the people that I know in the district, i.e teachers, this is how I understand it to be. My sources also mentioned that the idea of PTP being raised for this SPRING SPORTS, but was not enacted nor mentioned publicly........Only time will tell. After all it is politics as usual. We all witnessed the politics in play in SWC last year. At least that hasn't been mentioned in PTown.

In the past, I've brought up the possible exodus of 'transient students' in the district trickling out to other SE districts............I think this is a real possibility. No longer will kids leave RBurg and come to PTown North or Central to escape high PTP rates. Heights and Watkins and Canal and GPort maybe even Bloom and Hamilton in the extreme could be getting an influx of 'transient students'.

[knight43210]

I think most of you are way off base with PTP as being the reason families move to other school disticts. The increase PTP in Pickerington will definately have an impact on the over all roster size, but will have zero impact on those who participate because of it being a quality program. Higher PTP or not this fall, I still expect to see families move into the district due to the quality of the program.

[OneTiger]

I think most of you are way off base with PTP as being the reason families move to other school disticts. The increase PTP in Pickerington will definately have an impact on the over all roster size, but will have zero impact on those who participate because of it being a quality program. Higher PTP or not this fall, I still expect to see families move into the district due to the quality of the program.

All good points Knight. No doubt the roster will shrink due to high PTP. No doubt families seeking quality education,outstanding extra-carricular activities, and a student friendly enviroment in a good town will still look to Pickerington. As far as football goes there are strong levels of play from k-12(PYAA-school ball) and the "Family" will continue to grow.

[Walking Boss]

I think most of you are way off base with PTP as being the reason families move to other school disticts. The increase PTP in Pickerington will definately have an impact on the over all roster size, but will have zero impact on those who participate because of it being a quality program. Higher PTP or not this fall, I still expect to see families move into the district due to the quality of the program.

Knight:: There are "quality" programs with PTP rates 1/5 to 1/8th of the numbers getting tossed around. That is a month's rent for some families, for ONE sport. I think you are kidding yourself if you think that PTP rates of $700-$800 per sport wouldn't impact transients. Another thing to consider is that there is a certainly 'self-perpetuating' nature to this. At $700-800, a lot of the fringe players who join up just to wear the jersey won't do it any longer. As the roster sizes decrease, the PTP cost per participant has to go up, since most costs are generally fixed.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to talk up PTP rates. I really think it is terrible that they are as high as they are in some places, especially given how minor the cost of extracurriculars are when compared to the entire school budgets. I'm just trying to be a realist about this.

Longball: I think we are simpatico now. I think we were talking past each other for a while.

[longballhitter]

I think most of you are way off base with PTP as being the reason families move to other school disticts. The increase PTP in Pickerington will definately have an impact on the over all roster size, but will have zero impact on those who participate because of it being a quality program. Higher PTP or not this fall, I still expect to see families move into the district due to the quality of the program.

IMHO, I think you are overlooking the impact this will have. PTP is not the reason most 'transient families' choose a school, but it is for 'transient student-athletes'. I hope that this is a one year thing and the impact on the program is minimal. The 'fringe' players Boss was referring to will be major. The Jr.high and Frosh teams will be hit hard because that is the age when 'transient families' choose the district to move to. Also, please don't misunderstand these words to mean that I am biased or unforgiving toward 'transients'.

You will see more students become one sport athletes or not play School Ball at all. Football is exempt from the recruiting conundrum other sports face. Football is the only sport that colleges solely rely on school ball for recruiting. If a serious athlete is faced with $800 to play for school OR AAU team they will choose AAU every single time. Scholly's are what move the meter and drive the economy of HS Athletes. It's the times we live.

[knight43210]

Boss, I'm sure it will have an impact on fringe players currently in the program and those looking to find a quality program. Those are the players I feel for the most. They are going to miss out on a part of the high school experience that will last a life time, but I still don't see it having an immediate impact on the program. Long term possibly if the PTP stays at such a huge amount. You have to remember also, that PTP amount is across the board for all sports, golf, tennis, bowling and so on.
It's pretty sad when over spending by our government officials has to trickle down to our children suffering the most.

[walt]

The increased PTP fees have not scared anyone off yet. I know things might be different when it comes time for mom & dad to write the check, but I hear there are regularly 70+ kids grades 9-11 showing up for off season conditioning...and that obviously doesn't include wrestlers and basketball players.

[knight43210]

Any word on who Central will be playing in weeks 1-2 and 3?

[walt]

I've heard a few rumors but nothing definite yet. I'll post as soon as I hear definites....but for week two we are probably going to be in the Herbstreit game.

[knight43210]

Nice article featuring QB Jensen-Clagg on Ohio Varsity.

http://ohiovarsity.rivals.com/

[OneTiger]

Nice article featuring QB Jensen-Clagg on Ohio Varsity.

http://ohiovarsity.rivals.com/

Two things we can count on next season; a dominant defense,and a dominant QB. Jensen-Clagg should have a very nice supporting cast in the backfield also. Go Tigers!:cool:

[coke72]

wonder how good the article is, not a member of the site to view it. Bummer.

Good for Nick to get some press.

[Smilewhenulose]

wonder how good the article is, not a member of the site to view it. Bummer. Good for Nick to get some press.Exactly Pepsi... but it's good to see another Tiger get some positive recognition!

GO CENTRAL TIGERS!!!:)

[Webko]

I was really bummed out to hear a rumor about Pete Laihr being let go this week. Can anyone confirm this? Pete really put a lot of effort into his role at Central. I hate to see this happen if it is true.

[knight43210]

I totally agree Webco. I hope it's not true. He will be missed big time by students , staff and parents.

[Walking Boss]

Webbie/Knight: What is his position? Assistant Coach?

[knight43210]

Athletic Director

[walt]

Part of the budget cuts as a result of the levy failure. Supposedly we're going to have one Athletic Director for the entire district (two high schools and two junior high schools).

[Walking Boss]

Part of the budget cuts as a result of the levy failure. Supposedly we're going to have one Athletic Director for the entire district (two high schools and two junior high schools).

I feel for all concerned. Losing the job would be horrible. Being one person, trying to do all 4 of those jobs may be worse....

[Hank_Hill]

Sounds like Phillips has been told he's out of a teaching job at North. I wouldn't call it a loss on the football field though.

[gdtrfb]

Word on the street Huggie Bear is that Phillips will slide into an adminstrative job next year. You know, after they already said that administrative positions cannot coach....You figure the logic, I've given up. Pay to participate is looking like a flat rate for all sports... Hey, anybody out there want to work at the district office and be the athletic director for two high schools and two junior highs for the pay of one position?? anybody??? Bueller??

[longballhitter]

Does PTown C or N not have Asst. ADs? Schools that size have to, right?

[gdtrfb]

They do have an assistant and a secretary in each building, although I am not sure the assistant is full time. This new plan puts an AD for the district at the district office and then pays someone to assist at each building. I am not sure if this is a full time gig or an hourly deal. For all the hours that an AD is at every sporting event I don't see how this will work.

[longballhitter]

I find these decisions to be fascinating. Event operation is just as important as on-field performance. Poor operation= poorly attended events.

[knight43210]

Has anyone heard anything about our first three opponents. I'm hearing rumors, but that's about it.

[walt]

Most of the rumors that are out there are true.... but I don't believe the deals have been signed so at this point not confirmed. I'm uncomfortable naming names until I know all the paperwork has been signed.

Here's what I can tell you.... Week 1 is tentatively scheduled to be on the road in a nice venue against an Ohio D1 powerhouse program. Week 2 appears to be in the Herbstreit game (again) on Labor Day against an out-of-state opponent (again). And week 3 appears to be a bye but I don't think that is set in stone.

[picktownbanddad]

Here's what I can tell you.... Week 1 is tentatively scheduled to be on the road in a nice venue against an Ohio D1 powerhouse program. Week 2 appears to be in the Herbstreit game (again) on Labor Day against an out-of-state opponent (again). And week 3 appears to be a bye but I don't think that is set in stone.

You're such a teaser. :D

[knight43210]

Well if the rumors are true, what an exciting season it's going to be!!!!! Football season can't get here soon enough.
FYI, keep an eye on the Tiger baseball team this spring. They have a great chance of making a deep run into the state playoffs this year.

[Webko]

Most of the rumors that are out there are true.... but I don't believe the deals have been signed so at this point not confirmed. I'm uncomfortable naming names until I know all the paperwork has been signed.

Here's what I can tell you.... Week 1 is tentatively scheduled to be on the road in a nice venue against an Ohio D1 powerhouse program. Week 2 appears to be in the Herbstreit game (again) on Labor Day against an out-of-state opponent (again). And week 3 appears to be a bye but I don't think that is set in stone.

Now I'm dying to know who the D1 powerhouse team is? If you are not saying who, then maybe you will say who it is not?

Let's say if I said St. X, Colerain, Moeler, Elder, St.Eds, or Glennville. Would you say it may be one of these teams?

If so, which team does it rhyme with Paint hex, bowlbrain, Hoeler, Eischenfelder, Aint Feds, or Hennville?

Or at minimum share the region...

[gdtrfb]

my money's on Moeller.. I'm just saying....

[BigFOotInOhio]

Week 1 moeller,week2 team from Georgia,week3 bye.

[watwor]

Week 1 - Moeller
Week 2 - Camden County Georgia

This is what I have heard, don't know if its the truth.

[picktownbanddad]

Has Speedy received any offers?

[gdtrfb]

last time I spoke with mom Speedy had not had any concrete offers

[pc_tigers]

Week 1 - Moeller
Week 2 - Camden County Georgia

This is what I have heard, don't know if its the truth.

Sat, Aug 13 4-way Scrimmage at Dublin Jerome
Thur, Aug 18 Scrimmage @ Massillon (Coffman drop us)


So the Tigers are going to have a tough beginning to the season...

If we have Moeller week 1 and the Camden County week 2

[picktownbanddad]

last time I spoke with mom Speedy had not had any concrete offers

Thank you. I thought he might get some D2 or D3 attention.

[coke72]

Sat, Aug 13 4-way Scrimmage at Dublin Jerome
Thur, Aug 18 Scrimmage @ Massillon (Coffman drop us)


So the Tigers are going to have a tough beginning to the season...

If we have Moeller week 1 and the Camden County week 2

Definitely will be an interesting start to the season if that pans out. Pretty good line up. I work with some folks who moved up from Atlanta area. Not sure how much they would know about Camden County.

Isn't Camden the home of Earl as in 'My Name is Earl.'

Thanks
Joe

[kang99]

Interesting reading about the Camden County game from fans in Georgia.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=37&f=2684&t=7097053&p=1

[knight43210]

Interesting reading about the Camden County game from fans in Georgia.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=37&f=2684&t=7097053&p=1

Interesting read. Thanks kang99!! Too funny, that's the same attitude Oscar Smith's fans and coaches had about us. Gotta love it!!

[longballhitter]

Good to see message boards in other places have morons too!....:)

[sportfan97]

After reading the posts from that other site I'm not sure why central hasn't backed out of the game yet...lol. I mean after all central ohio football isn't any good.

[kang99]

I know that it's probably only one or two people on these forums, but it's amazing how little respect Central Ohio football gets. I hope that all the R3 teams represent well in games they play outside of the region this year.

[coke72]

I know that it's probably only one or two people on these forums, but it's amazing how little respect Central Ohio football gets. I hope that all the R3 teams represent well in games they play outside of the region this year.

Let's Rock It!!

[pc_tigers]

Scrimmage change ......Tigers will scrimmage Dover (not Massillon) on Thursday, August 18 at Tiger Stadium

[picktownbanddad]

Scrimmage change ......Tigers will scrimmage Dover (not Massillon) on Thursday, August 18 at Tiger Stadium

Glad to hear this. After two years in a row of driving to Dublin for both scrimmages, it will be nice to be able to walk to Tiger Stadium to watch a scrimmage.

[knight43210]

Dover is a very good program. They ended up losing in their Regional final to Marlington. Should be a quality scrimmage for both teams.

[coke72]

Through the grapevine I heard that Dover was pretty quick to call after Massillon backed out.

Should be a good one. Aren't they the Tornados or something? Maybe it will be a good prep for the Gales? Tornados, Gales, both wind type names, get it?
I crack my self up.

[Gz1up 2 Down]

I know that it's probably only one or two people on these forums, but it's amazing how little respect Central Ohio football gets. I hope that all the R3 teams represent well in games they play outside of the region this year.

If you're from the south or the eastern seaboard, the only HS football you'll hear of in Ohio is Moeller/Colerain, Mooney and Glenville, and whatever teams there are in Cuyahoga and Trumbull counties.

Central Ohio HS football isn't really popular considering there are still high schools that are developing and evolving and don't have the foundation yet. Look at the big school districts, like Olentangy, Dublin, Hilliard etc, suburban school districts with three d1/d2 schools and it's still growing. Pick Central in particular has very small enrollment for D1, and it wasn't until a few years ago it was still "Pickerington High School".

[BigFOotInOhio]

I tell you that ish there talking in Georgia.I wish we had played them in 2010.y'all gotta read that bull there talking on that web site.

[knight43210]

Have faith BigFOotInOhio, this 2011 team isn't going to miss a beat.

[coke72]

Have faith BigFOotInOhio, this 2011 team isn't going to miss a beat.

It appears that the correct framework is in place, much potential in the returning players. We will have to wait and see if the team can maximize the potential into action on the field. :)

[watwor]

Could someone update on the replacement of the O-lineman that central lost as well as the defensive backs. Would just be curious as to the replacements. I didn't see all the games last year, but was impressed as to the talent that PC puts on the field.

[knight43210]

watwor, if you go back to the first three pages of this thread, Coke & Walt give very good assessments of next years team.

[knight43210]

Pickerington Central commits to two events:

http://thisweeksports.com/live/content/pickerington/stories/2011/03/02/sports/PIKC-FT-confirms-invite-to-two-events.html?sid=104

[picktownbanddad]

Thanks knight.

[knight43210]

Central DB Billy Eakins featured in Ohio Varsity article:

http://ohiovarsity.rivals.com/

Eakins has big shoes to fill:

by Steve Hare
All four of Pickerington Central's defensive backs signed with Division I schools in February, leaving a huge void in the back end of the Tigers' defense in 2011. Junior cornerback Billy Eakins is confident the replacements will be just as productive.

[Walking Boss]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/03/16/Pickerington-sports-fees.html?sid=101

$500 PTP. Ouch!

$325 in Junior High?!

[knight43210]

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/03/16/Pickerington-sports-fees.html?sid=101

$500 PTP. Ouch!

$325 in Junior High?!

Ouch is right, but the numbers at our combine were just as strong as last year. That may not carry over into the fall, but only time will tell.

[watwor]

How was the combine this year, went last year with a friend and was amazed at the amount of participants. Do you have any results, or maybe the top performers? How did the tigers look overall?

[Walking Boss]

Ouch is right, but the numbers at our combine were just as strong as last year. That may not carry over into the fall, but only time will tell.


Knight: I wouldn't expec thte fees to have a tangible impact this year, at all. But at $325/sport in Jr. high, this will hurt down the road. participation numbers will be way down. This will hurt the late bloomers. I think Westerville had a similar expteriment with high PTP and I would argue that their football programs have still not recovered. I think it is definitely something to be concerned about (over the longer term).

[knight43210]

The combine was awesome. Great turnout. Players are fired up about the upcoming season. The atmosphere in the weight room is electric and players are taking every opportunity to hone their skills. Even those involved in spring sports are finding time to make sure this next season is a special one.

http://pickeringtontigerfootball2011.shutterfly.com/#%26emid%3dsite_calendarpostevent%26cid%3dSHARE3SX XXX

[knight43210]

Knight: I wouldn't expec thte fees to have a tangible impact this year, at all. But at $325/sport in Jr. high, this will hurt down the road. participation numbers will be way down. This will hurt the late bloomers. I think Westerville had a similar expteriment with high PTP and I would argue that their football programs have still not recovered. I think it is definitely something to be concerned about (over the longer term).

I agree 100% Boss. If it isn't resolved soon it will definately have an impact over the long term. The Jr. High will probably see it this year. I know some schools had to combine their 7th and 8th graders. Once you lose those numbers going into the high school it takes forever to recover and that's only if the funding is provided.

[T1972]

I hate to hear that the PTP is such an outrageous amount. It saddens me. This is the time for all parents to be pro-active and fund raise, fund raise, fund raise. I have seen teams raise a lot of money when they put their heart into it. I am a Groveport mom, but I am also an Ohio mom. I believe sports do so much more for our children than most realize. I have been involved with football since my kids were in little league and sports open up many opportunities for our communities. Start getting the kids involved now. Good luck.

[gdtrfb]

When is someone going to demand that the board declare if fee waivers are going to be used or not next year? No answer is your answer. How do all of you feel about paying more so that others do not have to pay at all????? for EXTRA-Curriculars!!!! We all have to make choices about how to spend our money.

[Walking Boss]

Here's more info from the Dispatch...

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/03/17/pickerington-hikes-high-school-sports-fees-to-500.html?sid=101

gdtrb: I have no dog in this fight, and I consider myself fortunate that Dublin manages their affairs pretty darn well and we have very modest PTP rates. That being said, I'd have to say I'd be pretty chapped if our PTP rates were high and there were significant fee "waivers" ("waiver" is a misnomer, because the fee is not really waived, it is really merely transferred to others through a higher fee), especially if it was based upon the free lunch program (yet another misnomer, because, after all, there is no such thing as a "free lunch"). In essence, you'd have some parents more, others paying nothing, and those that are paying more are actually also feeding the kids of the parents who pay nothing (via the "free" lunch program). Thiings will get heated pretty quickly if that happens.

[gdtrfb]

Boss, you are reading my mind..... I have heard numbers in the area of $40,000 in fee waivers last year. Since we don't get real numbers or answers from school officials we must assume that these very high numbers are more accurate than we would like to think. Free and reduced lunch forms are not carefully scrutinized or validated. Kids should not be getting their free lunch through the line and then buying extra. I know for a fact this occurs. My kids have both graduated, so I guess I have less of a dog in this fight as well. I'll pay my kids way as my responsibility, but I won't for pay for other kids whose parents either can't, or won't make the same sacrifices that I have to make to provide extras for my kids.

[Walking Boss]

The fact that the free lunch program is not validated or audited is absurb, but it is true....especially when a school lunch is ~$2.60 and the parents are smoking a pack a day at $4+ per pack.

[coke72]

I agree that consistency in the management of the 'free or reduced lunch' program or any other assistance program is vital in terms of educating our young folks as much as anything. Try to teach the difference between charitable acts and systems designed to help which are side stepped and.or abused.

Even related to the state cuts in funding which impacts all districts, mismanagement of budgets has led to the current state of affairs at all levels.

Hopefully the right things will be done to right the ship. It will take time though.

[Walking Boss]

I know this is a Pickton thread, but I've been told that it the Hilliard levy doesn't pass, they are doing away with all Middle Schools sports. Ouch!

[knight43210]

I know this is a Pickton thread, but I've been told that it the Hilliard levy doesn't pass, they are doing away with all Middle Schools sports. Ouch!

I read about that in the Dispatch. Not only cuts from a potential levy failure, but also huge cuts in state funding. I spoke with a few Davidson parents who seem pretty confident the levy will pass.

[knight43210]

Congratulations to Roger Lewis (Class of 2012 WR, DB & Special Teams)on receiving his first offer from Toledo. Many more to come for Roger and other Tigers.

[Smilewhenulose]

Congratulations to Roger Lewis (Class of 2012 WR, DB & Special Teams)on receiving his first offer from Toledo. Many more to come for Roger and other Tigers.

Kudos to Roger Lewis for working his backside off & getting the first of many D1 offers!!!

[knight43210]

Ohio Varsity featured review of Nick Jensen-Clagg highlight film.

http://ohiovarsity.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=2225&tid=157225487&mid=157225487&sid=1153&style=2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce9Th8m5SyI

Here's a portion of the review:

Outlook: Heading into his senior season, Jensen-Clagg expects to get 100-percent of the snaps in Pickerington Central’s offense.

That should help him increase the amount of recruiting attention he has received, though some coaches might have some reservations about his height. Typically, the dual-threat quarterbacks can be in the 6-foot to 6-foot-3 range with the pro style quarterbacks standing a bit taller.

Jensen-Clagg is a bit of a tweener in that regard, but is skilled enough to command a pro or spread offense.

Watching his film conjures up memories of Central Michigan quarterback Dan LeFevour carving up Mid-American Conference offenses with his arm and making big plays with his legs.

Jensen-Clagg isn’t as tall nor as fast as LeFevour, but possesses many of the same skills.

[Smilewhenulose]

Good write up on Mr. NJC....

[knight43210]

Roger Lewis picks up two more offers. Ball St. and Central Michigan. Congrats Roger!!!

[cthelites]

I read about that in the Dispatch. Not only cuts from a potential levy failure, but also huge cuts in state funding. I spoke with a few Davidson parents who seem pretty confident the levy will pass.

Hope so but I dont think it will.
Well it might not have if the SB5 wasnt on the ballot.
Either way it's getting bad with all the taxes they keep coming back on us.
With gas at $4 Im stretched thin already.
Im not saying Im voting against it, im just saying.
Im hearing alot of grumbling from parents that even have kids in the schools like me.

You know how expensive those MS sports are!!

[pc_tigers]

Schedule change: Pick Central was scheduled to play Camden County on Labor Day 3:30p in the Shoe .....

That has changed .... we are now playing on Sunday, September 4th time TBA ... against Cincinnati St. Xaiver

[knight43210]

Schedule change: Pick Central was scheduled to play Camden County on Labor Day 3:30p in the Shoe .....

That has changed .... we are now playing on Sunday, September 4th time TBA ... against Cincinnati St. Xaiver

WOW! Didn't see that one coming. Is Camden County still participating?