#5 Kenton vs #1 Clinton-Massie

[ryebread]

Let's get it started. Congrats to both teams on making it to week 12.

[johnner11]

Massie

[kwdtn89]

Kenton

[pinstud171]

Massie finally looked vulnerable this week (excluding Alder) and I think they came into the playoffs with a huge target on their back. Both teams and coaches have been planning for this game or had it in the back of their mind all year. I like Kenton in this game!

[LondonPride01]

Could it be...Massie as the underdog??? If Massie comes out P***** off I'll take them by a TD.

[s648228]

Massie is the complete underdog in this game. at least, that's what most everyone will say, because they're judging by tonights scores. Maybe we should just call it dead even, but there again what fun would that be. I am an SCOL fan, GO FALCONS represent the SCOL.....!:)

[Shucca]

Massie will lose this week! if they play a team who has talent equal to them, they will ALWAYS lose. ALWAYS! Their staff will NEVER outcoach anyone, they win on talent...peroid. Bye Bye Massie...Guranteed.

[xcat]

Massie is the favorite,no 1 seed against no5.If Kenton starts strong they will pulloff the upset.Shucca Massie really doesn't need any locker room material.Should be a good game between two powers.

[K_H_S_86...]

Any one know how many yards Maty had rushing?

[redcat91]

Going to LOVE this game. Good Luck, injury free!

[Shucca]

Clinton Massie=Bye Bye and Outcoached

[thebluegoose]

I just hope it's at Troy again, we're gonna need the seating. The rematch is set, and I can't wait!!! I'm not even gonna try to predict this one, it's pretty much impossible to call. The team that makes the fewest mistakes wins. GO CATS!!!

[blitzman]

Hopes for game @ Troy also..Looking forward to a really good game...

Kenton wins by 1pt or more....

[OriginalFalcon]

The coaching seemed to figure out Kenton's offense last year? Kenton's Coachin staff seemed to be the one that could not adjust to Massie's defense. They just kept throwing it up at getting INT's. Shucca, Do you ride the short bus? LOL I feel like the key to this game is not how well Kenton's offense does but how well their defense can stop Massie's offense. Kenton's defense was obviously their weak link last year and from what I have heard from a few Kenton huddlers, that defense is still not as strong as it needs to be. If Kenton can keep Massie's offense off of the field they will win. If Kenton allows Massie to put together two or three long scoring drives I have to give Massie the nod. Good Luck to both teams. This should be a barn burner.

[bcubed]

This is going to be a close one! Looking for Massie to pull out the win. Think Taft made the Falcons look vulnerable all you want but Taft is a very good football team that has tall WR's and a very good QB. I would say all in all it was a very good tune-up for Kenton.

[Freak On A Leash]

I think Taft was a much more talented team than first thought and the closeness of that game with Massie was not an indictment of Massie's lack of talent.
Kenton is just so explosive and their defense is stout.

I think this will be a good game and if anyone will give Kenton a fight it'll be Massie.

Kenton in a close one...well close for Kenton.

Wildcats 50, Falcons 30

[BHS90]

Go Kenton! Let's have a good respectful discussion folks okay? I'll give my best wishes to Massie now :)

[ex_dc_atc]

Quite an impression from Kenton last night. No doubt they made the statement in Week 11 for Region 16. Kenton has a great team. These are the things that stood out to me most:

1. Kenton has a very good defense. They often get overlooked but they have plenty of speed.

2. Kenton's offense is very ryhthm based. When they start completing passes they are very hard to stop. The Wildcats continue to go no huddle and keep the defense on their heels. It's like watching a snowball roll down hill.

3. Kenton's special teams are a lot to prepare for themselves. Between the scramble every kickoff and the assortment of formations and plays for 2 point conversions, they are tough to deal with.

My personal feeling is that this Kenton team very well may be the best team in DIV. The amount of time that it will take to prepare to beat them is much more than a week provides. Their offense is like nothing that anyone will have seen at this level. The offense itself is unique accompanied by the no huddle, no substitution. The special teams play that the Wildcats implement takes a great deal to prepare for themselves. It's clear that the only way to beat them is to take them out of their game. A team will have to run the ball well, control the game tempo, and somehow pressure Mauk. If you can keep Mauk from completing consecutive passes, that would help slow their offensive pace.

I think Clinton Massie can obviously win this game as they beat Kenton last season. However, I think Kenton has improved quite a bit from that team. I'm leaning towards the Wildcats in winning a great game.

[kftball45]

I picked Kenton last year. But I will pick them again this year. Massie's defense caught Coach Mauk by surprise and he won't let that happen again this year. Last night vs. Carlisle I picked 52-24 to be my final...I've normally been pretty close. This week I pick Kenton 46-30. Man...I hope I'm right. At least a win by the Cats would be nice... :)

[K_H_S_86...]

A year in the making!!!...I hope like h*ll Massie is not like the Florida Gators and KENTON is like THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES....With KENTON clearly the better team, but cant keep from shooting themselves in the foot...Taking nothing away from Massie they bet us last year....The KENTON team got their wish, lets hope they play like the champions they are!!

[Carlisle Pride]

Kenton by 3 tds

[kwdtn89]

I think Taft was a much more talented team than first thought and the closeness of that game with Massie was not an indictment of Massie's lack of talent.
Kenton is just so explosive and their defense is stout.

I think this will be a good game and if anyone will give Kenton a fight it'll be Massie.

Kenton in a close one...well close for Kenton.

Wildcats 50, Falcons 30

I can honestly say that Kenton's defense is better this year that last. They have continued to get better and they held Carlisle to 35 total yards in the first half last night. The sideline to sideline speed was just to much for Carlisle. And Fackler was Carlisle's best receiver last night. He hauled in 3 INT's. I would like to see Massie try to throw the ball on our defense.

The Kenton team is playing great ball right now. This rematch has been in the minds of the coaches and players all year and now they get there shot at the Number 1 team. I predict Kenton 52 Massie 38.

[cm_backer]

Wow..Caught Coach Mauk by surprise, Kenton clearly the better team, but can't keep from shooting themselves in the foot., blah blah blah. I see that this is how its going to go this week. If those two statements are true, then maybe Mauk isn't the coach you profess him to be, and maybe the Wildcats don't have the mental appitude to focus and not make mistakes against a quality (though less talented) team. But, since I do think Mauk is a quality coach and the Wildcats are a quality team, I will assume that the Massie team that won last year was just better. So the Wildcats will play with a chip on their shoulders, the Falcons will not be able to defend the pass, the Wildcat D will dominate the Massie O and Kenton will move on (that sounds alot like what we heard last year), I hope for the same results.

The boys play on Friday, and we will banter all week. Should be an interesting week, but I will say this, Massie posters (most anyway) will be respectful of the Kenton posters, provided the mental midgets that have already posted actually provide some factual information and not "my dad can beat up your dad" crap.

Good luck to both teams next Friday whoare the two highest scoring teams in the state.

[K_H_S_86...]

Wow..Caught Coach Mauk by surprise, Kenton clearly the better team, but can't keep from shooting themselves in the foot., blah blah blah. I see that this is how its going to go this week. If those two statements are true, then maybe Mauk isn't the coach you profess him to be, and maybe the Wildcats don't have the mental appitude to focus and not make mistakes against a quality (though less talented) team. But, since I do think Mauk is a quality coach and the Wildcats are a quality team, I will assume that the Massie team that won last year was just better. So the Wildcats will play with a chip on their shoulders, the Falcons will not be able to defend the pass, the Wildcat D will dominate the Massie O and Kenton will move on (that sounds alot like what we heard last year), I hope for the same results.

The boys play on Friday, and we will banter all week. Should be an interesting week, but I will say this, Massie posters (most anyway) will be respectful of the Kenton posters, provided the mental midgets that have already posted actually provide some factual information and not "my dad can beat up your dad" crap.

Good luck to both teams next Friday whoare the two highest scoring teams in the state.

So what "facts" did you post?

"mental midgets" "respectful"

[cm_backer]

didn't post any facts, other than Massie won the last meeting. Just setting the ground rules.

And yes, "mental midgets" was respectful, as I can think of a lot more accurate terms.

[kwdtn89]

Let's get it started. Congrats to both teams on making it to week 12.

You did not add a pole to this thread! Could you add one please.

[MASSIE]

As long as the boys do THIER jobs, we will be fine. The QB distraction is behind us and its time to get back to work. Kenton does not have the closing speed on "D" that Taft had nor the raw athetic talent that Taft's receivers had.Kenton has a great team, and is huge challenge. WE CAN GET THIS DONE.

[kwdtn89]

As long as the boys do THIER jobs, we will be fine. The QB distraction is behind us and its time to get back to work. Kenton does not have the closing speed on "D" that Taft had nor the raw athetic talent that Taft's receivers had.Kenton has a great team, and is huge challenge. WE CAN GET THIS DONE.

You might be surprised about Kenton's speed. They are faster than last year. And the closing speed on Kenton's D will also surprise you. We will see about our speed this coming Friday. Kenton does not have the raw athletic talent then Taft? What do you base this opinion on? Last years game or this years game film? Please explain?

[JJ]

You did not add a pole to this thread! Could you add one please.

I added it.

[K_H_S_86...]

Could we be looking at a "Massiecure" by KENTON in week 12?

[kwdtn89]

Thanks JJ!

[CMxFALCONS]

Wow, what a game! Great effort by both teams. Taft has some AMAZING athletes. Both #17 and #11 will be Saturday All-Stars one day. Massie has to have a GREAT week of practice and settle for nothing but perfection! Go get 'em boys!

For those who like to HATE on McSurley: Go root for someone else, Thanks! These players and coaches pour so much into a season! They spend countless hours and hours away from family and friends for one common goal! Dan and his staff are GREAT football coaches and if you do not like it, there are plenty of other schools around! For those who support that program, Thank You!

[Red Saul]

I was thinking either Troy or Springfield.

[kwdtn89]

I hope its Troy. The stadium is 2 miles from my house.

[KentonGrad76]

If playing on artificial turf the game will get even faster. Both teams are good and both teams can win. I take Kenton with less turnovers by QB this year. Kenton by 21.

[snoopdog3]

Could we be looking at a "Massiecure" by KENTON in week 12?

I think so... Kitten 42
Driving Mrs Massie 24

[LondonPride01]

Wow, what a game! Great effort by both teams. Taft has some AMAZING athletes. Both #17 and #11 will be Saturday All-Stars one day. Massie has to have a GREAT week of practice and settle for nothing but perfection! Go get 'em boys!

For those who like to HATE on McSurley: Go root for someone else, Thanks! These players and coaches pour so much into a season! They spend countless hours and hours away from family and friends for one common goal! Dan and his staff are GREAT football coaches and if you do not like it, there are plenty of other schools around!

What position did #11 play? Also what grade is he in?

[kwdtn89]

I am going to say that Taft has the better athletes overall. I say this because, as fast as Morrison is, #17 on Taft is faster, 6 inches taller, much longer arms, and the ability to go up and get a ball from ANYONE! Not to mention #11, who has an offer from OSU. However, Kenton has a much better QB and coaching. They will be much more discipline and it is going to be a good one. Massie has to have a GREAT week of practice, nothing but perfection this week boys.

Morrison is fast but much more shifty. The Kid from Carlisle that was supposed to be fast (Jordan Jacobs) only rushed for 22 yards. Everytime he tried to run outside he could only get 1 or 2 yards. And Nick McGill only had 15 yards rushing in the first half.

I guess Kenton's D will be too slow for Massie!! hehehe

[MACster]

If playing on artificial turf the game will get even faster. Both teams are good and both teams can win. I take Kenton with less turnovers by QB this year. Kenton by 21.

This game won't get played on artificial turf, I'll guarantee that.

Good luck to both.

[kwdtn89]

Let's have a contest on how many pages this thread will be on come Fridays game. I will say 15!

[CMxFALCONS]

I do not know, I think the sites for this game are between Troy and Piqua! I would say Piqua is the better venue because it is turf. Last year I believe there was a D2 game there so the Kenton/Massie game had to be held at Troy.

#11 plays DE! He has something like 12 offers on the table! He is big and a great athlete! Adolphus Washington is his name, look for him on bucknuts!

[kwdtn89]

I do not know, I think the sites for this game are between Troy and Piqua! I would say Piqua is the better venue because it is turf. Last year I believe there was a D2 game there so the Kenton/Massie game had to be held at Troy.

#11 plays DE! He has something like 12 offers on the table! He is big and a great athlete! Adolphus Washington is his name, look for him on bucknuts!

They will probably play the Covington Vs Lehman game in Piqua and the Kenton Vs Massie at Troy.

[CMxFALCONS]

Morrison is fast but much more shifty. The Kid from Carlisle that was supposed to be fast (Jordan Jacobs) only rushed for 22 yards. Everytime he tried to run outside he could only get 1 or 2 yards. And Nick McGill only had 15 yards rushing in the first half.

I guess Kenton's D will be too slow for Massie!! hehehe

I was not saying Kenton is slow, I was just saying Taft had some WR's who are better athletes. Morrison is probably more "shifty" but #17 is the total package, fast, tall, strong, GREAT hands! I am not bashing Kenton at all, I have a lot of respect for them!

[cm_backer]

#11 for Taft, Adolphous (sp) Washington played DT and TE. He has offers from 11 D1 schools, including Alabama, according to OhioScouting.com, and he is a junior. I think most of their skill guys were juniors, they will be a beast next year if that is the case, but this year, they are rolling out the basketballs.

As for the Kenton D not being fast enough for Massie, speed is not the issue, its handling the big boys up front and keeping Scanlon and Co from getting yards after contact. If Kenton can do that it will be a long night for the Falcons.

Grass or Turf, it doesn't matter, Massie plays its home games on turf. I would guess that the game would be at Troy or Piqua. JA vs. Alter could be in Springfield, and the other divisions that play on Friday, DVI are all northern teams and will play north of Dayton, DII will probably be a Monroe, Springboro, and in Cincy.

[CMxFALCONS]

UD and Northmont are possible options is they want it to be on turf! Can't see them making Kenton travel that far, but it is possible!

[MASSIE]

KWDTN89- I base that on 4.5,4.4,4.3 speed.Linebacker speed-4.6.Nobody ever said Kenton didn't have talent.Massie did not match up well with Taft's speed.Does Kenton have that kind of speed? I don't think so.

[kwdtn89]

I was not saying Kenton is slow, I was just saying Taft had some WR's who are better athletes. Morrison is probably more "shifty" but #17 is the total package, fast, tall, strong, GREAT hands! I am not bashing Kenton at all, I have a lot of respect for them!

I was making a joke CM..lol! Kenton does have speed on both sides of the ball and it really showed last night. I took a friend from New Carlisle to the game last night and he used to play for Tecumseh as a offensive lineman a couple of years ago. He was shocked at the way Kenton D-line manhandled Carlisle's big boys up front. However he was more impressed with the speed. Just ask Ex and Freak they were at the game.

Massie is big and physical and it will be a huge challenge for Kenton to contain the run. They will not stop it but they need to get some stops and give the offense the ball and time to score in this game. I think this will be a nail bitter just like the Massie-Taft game was.

Is it Friday yet...can't wait!!!

[cm_backer]

UD and Northmont are possible options is they want it to be on turf! Can't see them making Kenton travel that far, but it is possible!

If Wayne and Centerville win tonight, I could see UD being used for that matchup. I also don't think the OHSAA would make Kenton travel that far.

[K_H_S_86...]

KWDTN89- I base that on 4.5,4.4,4.3 speed.Linebacker speed-4.6.Nobody ever said Kenton didn't have talent.Massie did not match up well with Taft's speed.Does Kenton have that kind of speed? I don't think so.

Think what you want... KENTON is alot faster then you think.... Ask Carlisle...
Did you time all these boys? Just wondering where you come up with your opionions(facts)???
Should be a great game!!!

[kwdtn89]

KWDTN89- I base that on 4.5,4.4,4.3 speed.Linebacker speed-4.6.Nobody ever said Kenton didn't have talent.Massie did not match up well with Taft's speed.Does Kenton have that kind of speed? I don't think so.

Both Maty and Max run a 4.5 40 and it is documented. Where is your prof that Taft had kids that ran a 4.5, 4.4 or even a 4.3 40 and there linebacker runs a 4.6? . I have been looking for Taft stats for the last 2 hours and have not found any. Are you saying this because you had a stop watch last night? There is track speed and there is game speed. And you did not say that Kenton does not have talent. You said that they don't have any speed like taft does. Well maybe not but I think they are close and you will see that speed this Friday night.

[snoopdog3]

I hope its at troy.. very nice big stadium. this is going to be a huge peeeeing contest all week you guys have at it, I allready know the winner if they stay humble and focused, peace.

[blondiejc11]

This match up will be nothing like last year's game. Kenton's offense has improved greatly from last year, and Maty has another year of experience under his belt. Last year, he made some mental mistakes; after all, it was his first time in a high pressure playoff situation against a good team. This year, Maty is just so much more confident back there, and our receivers are coming to the ball, making big catches, and they're lightning quick going down the field. I think this game will go much like the Ottawa game, but Kenton will come out on top. Kenton 30 Massie 28

[pdoubleop]

This game won't get played on artificial turf, I'll guarantee that.

Good luck to both.

Why do you think that? Piqua would be a great site.

Taft was incredibly athlletic. With more discipline and players, they would be a nightmare!

[kwdtn89]

Snoop I think you are right. The smack talk has begun just like predicted. It's all in fun though. Most from Kenton including myself have much respect for Massie. And all it takes is one or two fans to get the smack started. Massie is the team to beat in this region, they are the #1 seed!

Whoever wins this game will be the favorite to win this region. Not offense to Alder. Massie is good and so is Kenton. This years Kenton team is far better than last years team. I predict that Massie will not get 5 TO's from Kenton in this game. You turn the ball over 5 times in a game and you should loose and Kenton only lost by 8 points. But that was last year!

Going to be a close one.

[kwdtn89]

Why do you think that? Piqua would be a great site.

Taft was incredibly athlletic. With more discipline and players, they would be a nightmare!

It will be interesting what you will say after this Friday! :D

[kwdtn89]

Well page 3 already and it's only Saturday! I should go watch some football now!

[cm_backer]

I would guess that both teams are improved from last year. Massie did lead the state in scoring this year, 54.5 points a game during the regular season, and was 3rd in the state in total offense with more than 480 yards a game. Both are dramatically better than last years team. The only place that was worse was points allowed, 72 points allowed vs. 53 points allowed last year.

[K_H_S_86...]

I would guess that both teams are improved from last year. Massie did lead the state in scoring this year, 54.5 points a game during the regular season, and was 3rd in the state in total offense with more than 480 yards a game. Both are dramatically better than last years team. The only place that was worse was points allowed, 72 points allowed vs. 53 points allowed last year.

Was that 54.5 per game before or after 21 pts last nite?;)

[xcruiser]

This is the one we have all been waiting for. The only thing stoping Kenton right now is Kenton themselves. Massie will score, but Kenton will score more.

Kenton 48
Massie 21

[LondonPride01]

Massie will win just like last year. I'm sure Maty has improved since last year but so has Massie's front 7 (6 of the 7 are back from last year).

Kenton can have their 7 on 7 trophies... Massie will take the big one!

[tobadslag]

Was that 54.5 per game before or after 21 pts last nite?;)

it's obviouse that it says during the regular season.... Read it again.

[neers32]

This will be a very interesting game.. I can't see a clear favorite, but Kenton plays a radical style that might lead to their demise. I just don't know.

I will say that I highly doubt Taft has consistent 4.3-4.6 speed.

[cm_backer]

Was that 54.5 per game before or after 21 pts last nite?;)

I would guess "during the regular season" means before last night.

[captain_chaos]

Those 7 on 7 trophies look real nice next to those 2 State Championship trophies!

[LondonPride01]

Those 7 on 7 trophies look real nice next to those 2 State Championship trophies!

Yea the only problem with that is those kids who won the 2 State Championship trophies graduated almost 10 years ago...

[K_H_S_86...]

it's obviouse that it says during the regular season.... Read it again.

Yup it do... In that case CM is avg 21 pts in playoffs and KENTON is avg 52:eek:

I did read it rite the 1st time, I just went trolling!!! :)

[K_H_S_86...]

I would guess "during the regular season" means before last night.

^^^^^;)

Caught 2 with one cast... hehe

[captain_chaos]

You brought up trophies, I compare our titles to yours(0). You talk about winning the big one, you got to win 3 more before you can have that chance to play that game. On that note, how many times has Massie played for the title? I'll answer that for you. Unless my research is wrong, none. But all of that means nothing. 10 years ago means nothing. Last year means nothing. The only thing that counts is right now! Massie has 1 more win than Kenton and thats all that separates these teams, other than team strategies. Now that I think about it, there is one thing Kenton has from their title games. The same head coach and D coach with 3 title games worth of experience. No matter how long ago they were, you can't take that away. On that note, the edge goes to the Wildcats. Wildcats by 2 scores!

[K_H_S_86...]

You brought up trophies, I compare our titles to yours(0). You talk about winning the big one, you got to win 3 more before you can have that chance to play that game. On that note, how many times has Massie played for the title? I'll answer that for you. Unless my research is wrong, none. But all of that means nothing. 10 years ago means nothing. Last year means nothing. The only thing that counts is right now! Massie has 1 more win than Kenton and thats all that separates these teams, other than team strategies. Now that I think about it, there is one thing Kenton has from their title games. The same head coach and D coach with 3 title games worth of experience. No matter how long ago they were, you can't take that away. On that note, the edge goes to the Wildcats. Wildcats by 2 scores!

Now now dont you know facts only mean something when a CM poster post em?;)

[LondonPride01]

You brought up trophies, I compare our titles to yours(0). You talk about winning the big one, you got to win 3 more before you can have that chance to play that game. On that note, how many times has Massie played for the title? I'll answer that for you. Unless my research is wrong, none. But all of that means nothing. 10 years ago means nothing. Last year means nothing. The only thing that counts is right now! Massie has 1 more win than Kenton and thats all that separates these teams, other than team strategies. Now that I think about it, there is one thing Kenton has from their title games. The same head coach and D coach with 3 title games worth of experience. No matter how long ago they were, you can't take that away. On that note, the edge goes to the Wildcats. Wildcats by 2 scores!

Dude I'm not even from Massie... I'm only pulling for them because they are in the SCOL. Kenton must have a really good team this year and it's obvious that you guys have a strong tradition. I was just saying that this is a much better Massie team compared to last year and I think they will win this game similar to last year.

[captain_chaos]

I assumed as much by your moniker. Kenton is also much better this year. Their offense is in a zone right now and their defense is much improved.

[ex_dc_atc]

I would like to say that although I favor Kenton in this game, Clinton Massie is the type of team that sets up to give the Wildcats trouble. CM can run the ball well, slow the tempo, and play great defense. Obviously that was the case last season. This game will depend on which team imposes it's tempo. Will this be a grinder of a game or a track meet? I believe the team that dictates it's tempo wins this game.

[HardinCofan]

GO CATS!

[90wreck]

I think they will win this game similar to last year.
By the skin of thier teeth?
;)
That is not gonna fly this year.

[anon1964]

Not having a dog in this fight. I'd have to go with Kenton by two scores. Massie is improved a little over last year. But, the difference between a Soph QB and Junior is a huge leap forward. Especially for one as talented as Mauk. I would not expect Mauk to make (or be forced into) the same mistakes as last year.

Of course, if there are hurricane force winds and a driving rain, I reserve the right to change my pick to Massie and their wind-proof running game.

[bamgam18]

I like Kenton in this rematch!

Go Cats!

[CMxFALCONS]

ex, you are correct. Massie does not want to try to run and gun with Kenton! Massie has to come out and play their game. Eat the clock, move the ball, zero turnovers/mistakes on the offense and the D HAS to play lights out! I am sure the Falcons will be ready come Friday night and this game could be one for the ages! Is it Friday yet?...

[bcubed]

If all this stuff from last year doesn't matter let's look at this year! Massie beat Waynesville by 52 pts, Waynesville lost to Carlisle by 4 pts, and Kenton beat Carlisle by 41 pts. So it seems to reason this will be a 7 pt victory by the Falcons 48-41!

[QBall]

^ nice try and I think you know it.

On another note, Alter scrimmaged Taft last Aug (1st scrimmage) and the outcome of your game didn't really surprise me.

As to this game, I think it's going to be tough to beat the same team twice in consecutive playoff years. The same goes for my Alter team against Alder.

[gdude1304]

Hopefully Coach Mudd has the basketballs already pumped up at Massie. Really think this game vs Kenton is going to be close. But the way everyone else is talking on here...It's like a bunch of Kenton posters pumping their team up with a few Massie supporters sprinkled in...I don't care if Massie wins 21-20 in OT EVERY game...all that matters is the result...Just don't go banging on your chest quite yet...

[wiz]

We fans can speculate all we want this week (and.... we will because that's what fear of the unknown does to mankind). The only fact I know is: these are two tremendous teams, coaching staffs, and fan bases on a major collision course. The only shame is that one of them has to bow out after only two weeks of the post-season, ending the H.S. careers & hopes of their seniors.

As for my thoughts on the game, the main key for Kenton will be whether (or should I say "weather") the other 4 receivers can step up & not be afflicted by the dropsies & alligator arms that tend to occur in these games against big, physical opponents.

I don't think Kenton has an advantage of a revenge factor since CM is seeking their own revenge against all of D4 for not winning the state title last year. I also don't think any of us can base anything from Kenton's lop-sided win over Carlisle or CM's close call with Taft because Carlisle is evidently worse than any of us thought, while Taft is CLEARLY much better than anyone probably anticipated.

I do think Kenton would have more to gain from this game being played on turf - when Kenton played on turf in prior post-seasons, it made them seem 50% faster and these are the fastest group of receivers we've ever had. Not sure it would be enough to beat CM, but would certainly help.

[K_H_S_86...]

If all this stuff from last year doesn't matter let's look at this year! Massie beat Waynesville by 52 pts, Waynesville lost to Carlisle by 4 pts, and Kenton beat Carlisle by 41 pts. So it seems to reason this will be a 7 pt victory by the Falcons 48-41!

Wow I guess you nailed it with this logic....:D

You are WRONG on 2 points

#1 KENTON only scores by even numbers so it can not be 41!!!!

#2 KENTON wins by 18 pts:eek:

[coachbhs01]

here are a couple key points for ya. i was at both games last night. went to carlisle to watch 2 quarters of the most dominated half i've ever seen. kentons offense is impressive.....everyone already knows that. but i was most impressed with kentons D. they run to the ball very well, are extremely diciplined and HIT HARD. just ask the young man from carlisle that walked off the field and quit after the punt block for a TD. second, we drove to massie to catch the last quarter and a half. taft was a much better team than alot of people expected. their D was fantastic. no one can doubt that massie is an extremely powerfull football team. but i will tell you this, kentons D is better than tafts. massie couldnt really stop taft, taft stopped themselves.(now i only saw the last 16 minutes.) the mighty falcons did not even look like the 10th best team in the state let alone #1. kenton beats massie by 21!!!

[jafanmom]

Wow 1 day and already 83 posts?? It could be a record by the end of the week!!! Good luck to both teams and have safe trips this week!! Hope to see 1 of ya in week 13!

[ex_dc_atc]

My personal feeling is that although Clinton Massie beat Kenton last year, this year's Kenton team is much more improved than the 2009 team. Mauk is better overall as is the Kenton defense. Like I said on the thread last week, Kenton has so much to prepare for in one week's time. On offense they run no huddle constantly after completions. In reality it's like a snowball going down hill. The defense can't sub, the defense can barely make calls, etc. Then on special teams Kenton has an aresenal of two point conversion plays and formations. Not to mention their kickoffs are a scramble to simply get on the ball. Defensively the Wildcats are vastly improved as well.

In order to beat Kenton a team must rush the passer, run the football well, and control the tempo. Forcing a few imcompletions to distrupt the tempo of Kenton's offense is key as well. Clinton Massie is capable of doing all of these things just like they did last season. This formula was also used by Ottawa Glandorf earlier this season.

I'm leaning towards Kenton in 2010 but CM can definitely win this game if they pull off their gameplan as in 2009.

[MASSIE]

The only people that were shocked by Kentons 62 points against Carlisle were the Carlisle people.If Waynesville and Carlisle played 10 times, the ville would win half. Massie beat the ville to a bloody pulp 59-7.The 1ST stringers only played 2 1/2 quarters.Why did Kenton allow Carlisle to score 20? Massie will be just fine. Looking forward to another great game.

[kftball45]

Why did Kenton allow Carlisle to score 20?

I would say when you go into the locker room after being cheap shotted and up 48 - 0 at halftime...your intensity level probably drops to 25%...not to mention it was cold and wet, that probably didn't help the "heart" factor at all either. If their intesity was even near what it was in the 1st half, Carlisle wouldn't have scored those td's. Kenton was on cruise control at that point.

[cm_backer]

I agree with kw45, who cares what was scored in the 2nd half, the game was out of hand.

ex..I love how you hedge your bets.

Curious, how does a ground and pound offense put up more points during the regular season than the high flying greatest show on turf during the regular season. If both teams play up to their offensive potential we may have to put new bulbs in the scoreboard at half time.

[Freak On A Leash]

I saw not only a great passing attack from Kenton but a very, very tough run defense. That D line was all over Carlisle's bigger linemen.
I'd say that this game will be a really, really good match-up. Taft was a much better team than the record showed, just like Badin.

[ryebread]

cm_backer: I agree with you, could be a 56-53 game. I doubt it gets that high from either team, but you never know. Defintely better than watching a 3-0 football game any day! Congrats to both teams for making it to week # 12. Go Cats!!!!!!!!!

[MASSIE]

CM -ordinarily I would agree that the 2nd half scoring doesn't matter. It ONLY matters to Massie's "D". These kids are mentally tough. Ahead by 50 or behind, the mindset does not change. Little things are the difference when two great teams play.

[K_H_S_86...]

I agree with kw45, who cares what was scored in the 2nd half, the game was out of hand.

ex..I love how you hedge your bets.

Curious, how does a ground and pound offense put up more points during the regular season than the high flying greatest show on turf during the regular season. If both teams play up to their offensive potential we may have to put new bulbs in the scoreboard at half time.

Q:How does a "ground and pound offense" score more points than KENTON??

A: KENTON plays strong teams as oposed to the teams CM plays... Enuff said!!

Good idea about KENTONS side of scoreboard needing new bulbs..... See we can agree on something...cm_backer;)

Gonna be a fun week!!:D:D:D

[rhinoright]

86, alder would roll og.Enuff said!

[K_H_S_86...]

86, alder would roll og.Enuff said!

Ya think?.....I dout that....No body has Rolled OG.....That would be a good game but roll??? hehe

[cm_backer]

Q:How does a "ground and pound offense" score more points than KENTON??

A: KENTON plays strong teams as oposed to the teams CM plays... Enuff said!!

Good idea about KENTONS side of scoreboard needing new bulbs..... See we can agree on something...cm_backer;)

Gonna be a fun week!!:D:D:D

Massie 4-0 vs. playoff teams
Kenton 2-1 vs .playoff teams
Massie 5-0 vs. winning teams (6-0 vs. non-losing records)
Kenton 4-1 vs. winning teams (6-1 vs. non-losing records)
Massie 4-0 vs. teams with 8+ wins
Kenton 1-1 vs. teams with 8+ wins
Massie opponents record 51-49
Kenton opponents record 50-50


Yea, I can see how someone would think that your schedule is tougher. Makes about as much sense as your usual "my dad can beat up your dad" agrument. Try leaving the elementary playground sometime. enuff said.

[K_H_S_86...]

Massie 4-0 vs. playoff teams
Kenton 2-1 vs .playoff teams
Massie 5-0 vs. winning teams (6-0 vs. non-losing records)
Kenton 4-1 vs. winning teams (6-1 vs. non-losing records)
Massie 4-0 vs. teams with 8+ wins
Kenton 1-1 vs. teams with 8+ wins
Massie opponents record 51-49
Kenton opponents record 50-50


Yea, I can see how someone would think that your schedule is tougher. Makes about as much sense as your usual "my dad can beat up your dad" agrument. Try leaving the elementary playground sometime. enuff said.

Thanks for going to the trouble to post this for me...

I find it interesting that TAFT took CM to OT and wallla everyone from CM sad that TAFT was better than expected go figure.... Yet when KENTON rolls Carlisle you all say that Carlisle was not very good?... I kinda get a kick outta that....Could it be CM is overated?? and KENTON may just be that good?

We will see FRIDAY

[LondonPride01]

OG doesn't look so impressive anymore. Alder would beat them by 14 and Massie would beat them by even more.

[kwdtn89]

Massie 4-0 vs. playoff teams
Kenton 2-1 vs .playoff teams
Massie 5-0 vs. winning teams (6-0 vs. non-losing records)
Kenton 4-1 vs. winning teams (6-1 vs. non-losing records)
Massie 4-0 vs. teams with 8+ wins
Kenton 1-1 vs. teams with 8+ wins
Massie opponents record 51-49
Kenton opponents record 50-50


Yea, I can see how someone would think that your schedule is tougher. Makes about as much sense as your usual "my dad can beat up your dad" agrument. Try leaving the elementary playground sometime. enuff said.

This is just my opinion but I think the WBL is a much stronger league this year. Massie dominates there league year in and year out. They play a cupcake team in the first game of the year. Kenton plays Coldwater that just beat a very good Anna team last night.

Elida and Coldwater made it to the second round. OG would have made it if they had there starting QB and LB for the game against Genoa and they lost by 1 point.

The only team that Massie beat and that is still in the playoffs is Alder.

[kwdtn89]

OG doesn't look so impressive anymore. Alder would beat them by 14 and Massie would beat them by even more.

OG won there region last year and did not have the starting QB and all state LB in the game against Genoa and they lost by 1 point. And if I'm not mistaken only lost by 1 point from going to the state title game last year. So OG is not impressive? They have a really good program up there in Ottawa.

[kwdtn89]

here are a couple key points for ya. i was at both games last night. went to carlisle to watch 2 quarters of the most dominated half i've ever seen. kentons offense is impressive.....everyone already knows that. but i was most impressed with kentons D. they run to the ball very well, are extremely diciplined and HIT HARD. just ask the young man from carlisle that walked off the field and quit after the punt block for a TD. second, we drove to massie to catch the last quarter and a half. taft was a much better team than alot of people expected. their D was fantastic. no one can doubt that massie is an extremely powerfull football team. but i will tell you this, kentons D is better than tafts. massie couldnt really stop taft, taft stopped themselves.(now i only saw the last 16 minutes.) the mighty falcons did not even look like the 10th best team in the state let alone #1. kenton beats massie by 21!!!

Since you seen a little of both games how would you compare the speed and strength between Taft and Kenton's defense. Were you still at the Kenton game to see the hit that Dustin Howell had on the kid from Carlisle? It took him a while to get up and I don't think he came back in the game. I hope he is ok because that was a big hit.

[ex_dc_atc]

I agree with kw45, who cares what was scored in the 2nd half, the game was out of hand.

ex..I love how you hedge your bets.

Curious, how does a ground and pound offense put up more points during the regular season than the high flying greatest show on turf during the regular season. If both teams play up to their offensive potential we may have to put new bulbs in the scoreboard at half time.

No so much hedging bets but playing devils advocate. That's the benefit of being a general fan than a fan of either team. :) From watching Kenton I really fear the difficulty of trying to prepare for what they throw at you. If Kenton is playing well, completing passes, playing up tempo, I don't think they can be beat by a DIV team. The only way you beat Kenton is by dictating your tempo on them. Clinton Massie is built to do exactly that. A good running game, slow the tempo, play sound defense, etc. are all important. Slowing the games pace makes each possession more critical and limits the amount of times you have to defense Kenton.

Basically, I've seen both play and have the game plan in place to beat Kenton. This year's team is improved from last season but I'm not foolish enough to think that CM isn't improved as well. I still favor Kenton but expect a very close, competitive game. Good luck to the Falcons and Wildcats...........Hedging my bet once gain ;) I'll give a prediction later this week.

[CHOPPER]

Welcome Stadium

[blitzman]

Chopper, I hope not...

Is Troy's field not that good of shape? Or maybe Troy didnt want to do a game...

[snoopdog3]

Sweetness.. Kenton offence on turf grass, it gona get ugly for mrs. massie

[MACster]

I love Welcome Stadium, may have to make the trip down.

[tobadslag]

Chopper, I hope not...

Is Troy's field not that good of shape? Or maybe Troy didnt want to do a game...

The Alder vs. Alter game is at Troy

[tobadslag]

Sweetness.. Kenton offence on turf grass, it gona get ugly for mrs. massie

Massie plays all of their home games on this type of field, unless Kenton does the same, IMO Massie has the advantage. Kenton has to travel 1 hour and 44 minutes/ 94.17 miles, while Massie travels 45 minutes/ 36.52 miles.

[blitzman]

where is this info coming from?.. OHSAA is updated.. rrrrrrrrrrrrrr Im missin it...lol

[MACster]

where is this info coming from?.. OHSAA is updated.. rrrrrrrrrrrrrr Im missin it...lol

Check the brackets.

[CHOPPER]

Chopper, I hope not...

Is Troy's field not that good of shape? Or maybe Troy didnt want to do a game...

Troy's field is in perfect condition, SHOCKED the game isn't here.

Alter & Alder get the nod, other than going to Wayne H.S. or Xenia they really had nowhere else to put this one.

UD does have field turf now I heard, faster track for Kenton if its a dry night!!

We'll let you know sometime this week if we're going down to Dayton, staying around here (Troy or Piqua) or up to Sidney to watch Coldwater....to damn many choices, LOL!!

[CHOPPER]

MACster, what do you think the Badin people are saying about the trip up to Sidney...not going to be happy I'm guessing.

You guys will LOVE the place, just like Piqua's stadium & field.

[blitzman]

Chopper, sounds good....

Wont be goin to any Sat. games.. Will be travling back from Purdue/Michigan game....

[cm_backer]

This is just my opinion but I think the WBL is a much stronger league this year. Massie dominates there league year in and year out. They play a cupcake team in the first game of the year. Kenton plays Coldwater that just beat a very good Anna team last night.

Elida and Coldwater made it to the second round. OG would have made it if they had there starting QB and LB for the game against Genoa and they lost by 1 point.

The only team that Massie beat and that is still in the playoffs is Alder.

3 of Massie 4 non-conference opponents made the playoffs, Blan is a traditional rival and played in the reg. finals 3 years ago (yes they are down now). And of course you think your league is better, just because we dominate our league doesn't mean the WBL is better, IMO.

[CHOPPER]

Chopper, sounds good....

Wont be goin to any Sat. games.. Will be travling back from Purdue/Michigan game....

If it's anything like the Illini/Mich game you should have said BASKETBALL game...

[MACster]

MACster, what do you think the Badin people are saying about the trip up to Sidney...not going to be happy I'm guessing.

You guys will LOVE the place, just like Piqua's stadium & field.

I thought they would have put us at Piqua, oh well, can't wait to check out Sidney's place.

You have to love playoff football, it's only Sunday and I can't wait for Friday & Saturday to get here.

[kwdtn89]

Massie plays all of their home games on this type of field, unless Kenton does the same, IMO Massie has the advantage. Kenton has to travel 1 hour and 44 minutes/ 94.17 miles, while Massie travels 45 minutes/ 36.52 miles.

It does not matter how far Kenton has to drive...they will be ready for Massie! Coach Mauk and the rest of the coaching staff will make the proper adjustments in this game and Kenton will not turn the ball over 5 times. I think we will see a totally different game than last year. Kenton knows what to expect in this game and will be ready for the smash mouth running of Massie. They will not stop it but hopefully they will get some stops or slow it down. I predict that Massie will not score more than 30 in this game.

[kwdtn89]

3 of Massie 4 non-conference opponents made the playoffs, Blan is a traditional rival and played in the reg. finals 3 years ago (yes they are down now). And of course you think your league is better, just because we dominate our league doesn't mean the WBL is better, IMO.

Kenton would kill everyone in your league this year.

[kwdtn89]

Making the playoffs does not mean you will win. Coldwater and Elida both won there games and my bet is Coldwater wins there region. And Elida could give Watterson a close game.

[kwdtn89]

Troy's field is in perfect condition, SHOCKED the game isn't here.

Alter & Alder get the nod, other than going to Wayne H.S. or Xenia they really had nowhere else to put this one.

UD does have field turf now I heard, faster track for Kenton if its a dry night!!

We'll let you know sometime this week if we're going down to Dayton, staying around here (Troy or Piqua) or up to Sidney to watch Coldwater....to damn many choices, LOL!!

Kenton game on Friday and then the Elida game on Saturday. Have to support the WBL. If the Elida game is out of reach then drive to Sidney for the Coldwater game.

[ex_dc_atc]

I'm really thankful this game is at Welcome, it's a closer drive for me. It seems a little odd but sometimes the OHSAA also change venues between two like schools from year to year. Either way, both teams will be happy to be there and ready to play. I'm sure the potential crowd will appreciate the seating.

[neers32]

I hope Clinton Massie puts it to Kenton in this one. I still can't believe how poorly Kenton reflected the ideals of high school football last week.

[snoopdog3]

Tissue's isle 4... for neers tears lol... Sorry your team isnt as sweet as kenton. We put up points and dont stop till the fat lady sings. Your hate for kenton at this point is actually quite boring.

[K_H_S_86...]

Tissue's isle 4... for neers tears lol... Sorry your team isnt as sweet as kenton. We put up points and dont stop till the fat lady sings. Your hate for kenton at this point is actually quite boring.

^^^^^^^^^^^:D:D:D:D^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^

[K_H_S_86...]

I hope Clinton Massie puts it to Kenton in this one. I still can't believe how poorly Kenton reflected the ideals of high school football last week.

Lets see here....You HATE KENTON because they scored 62 points on a 10-0 team in the State playoffs? Yet you want CM who scored more points in the regular season then KENTON to "put it to KENTON"... Please explain your "ideals of highschool football" here.... Cant wait for your answer...

[HardinCofan]

GO CATS !!!Neers I am looking for a big red hankie so you can get the tears and go blow your.......nose.....

[kwdtn89]

I hope Clinton Massie puts it to Kenton in this one. I still can't believe how poorly Kenton reflected the ideals of high school football last week.

Please explain why you would make a comment like this? Why do you think that Kenton does not reflect on the Ideals of high school football? If you are going to make a comment like this one go to some other post neers.

[LondonPride01]

Lets see here....You HATE KENTON because they scored 62 points on a 10-0 team in the State playoffs? Yet you want CM who scored more points in the regular season then KENTON to "put it to KENTON"... Please explain your "ideals of highschool football" here.... Cant wait for your answer...

Yes Massie scored more points then Kenton in the regular season BUT the varsity players were out of the game by the 4th quarter if not the 2nd half in most of their regular season games. Yes Massies younger kids are that good...

If you score 62 points with your JV team playing most of the 2nd half then so be it (Look at Massie). But if you score 62 points and your varsity is in late in the game throwing it around so your stats look amazing then yes that is...well what Neers said. Neers is an Alder fan by the way and probably doesn't care for Massie all that much.

[ex_dc_atc]

All kidding aside from the Kenton faithful, I really didn't see any issue with what Kenton did last week. In the second half Carlisle outscored Kenton 20-15. It's the playoffs and you have to have your team prepared week to week for a battle. Kenton can't bench their starters at halftime each week until they come up against someone that gives them a good game. If that's the case when a great team plays them, they wouldn't be prepared. Prime example is this week, Kenton needs to be playing as well as possible when they take on the #1 team in DIV. Keep in mind this game wasn't against a defenseless 0-10 regular season team, this was against a capable 10-0 league champion. I don't think you would see many Carlisle players, coaches, or players that feel sorry for themselves that Kenton didn't pull it's kids until late. It's the playoffs fellas. Everyone in R16 is playing for hardware, not just to say they made the post season.

[K_H_S_86...]

All kidding aside from the Kenton faithful, I really didn't see any issue with what Kenton did last week. In the second half Carlisle outscored Kenton 20-15. It's the playoffs and you have to have your team prepared week to week for a battle. Kenton can't bench their starters at halftime each week until they come up against someone that gives them a good game. If that's the case when a great team plays them, they wouldn't be prepared. Prime example is this week, Kenton needs to be playing as well as possible when they take on the #1 team in DIV. Keep in mind this game wasn't against a defenseless 0-10 regular season team, this was against a capable 10-0 league champion. I don't think you would see many Carlisle players, coaches, or players that feel sorry for themselves that Kenton didn't pull it's kids until late. It's the playoffs fellas. Everyone in R16 is playing for hardware, not just to say they made the post season.

I made these same points to neers on another thread... KENTON is in the State Playoffs...With the intentions of winning it, not to make friends rite or wrong it is what it is...The starters need every snap they can get... The deeper KENTON gets in the playoffs the stronger their opponents will be... This is NOT the regular season....Week 12 will be nothing like week 11....We all have an opinion....

[theoldballgame]

Score as much as you can. As I used to say when I coached: "It's not my job to stop my offense, that is your job". Talking to the opposing coach of course.

[kwdtn89]

I'm beginning to think that Londonpride and neers hates Kenton. They do nothing but complain and wine about what Kenton does. Do you 2 have anything nice to say?

Well said Ex. This is the playoffs and Londonpride and neers were not at the game Friday night. If Coach Mauk takes his first string offense out of the game and the coach of the other team does not then I too would leave my first team in the game. I know coach Mauk and he a very humble and respectable man.

Kenton Beat a good team and in convincing fashion and all neers and London can do is find something negative to say.

[glade]

You can't score 62 points when you don't have the ball. I see Massie executing long drives on the ground while the Kenton offense sits and watches. I'm a JA fan and can say that our coaches pull the starters pretty quick when we have a reasonable lead. The mainstay of our program has been the development of the younger players by giving them varsity time on Friday nights. Nobody cares about personal stats or how many points we score. If we score a lot in the second half of some these games its because our JV kids are better than our opponents backups. Neers understood that it was his responsibility to develop the young guys who backed him up when he played. The Kenton starters need more snaps. They had the pre-season and the regular season games. Massie by 10 and nobody scores more than 30.

[neers32]

I was unaware that I was crying. I thank you all for your sympathy and encouragement during this time of peril.

Seriously, the Kenton posters on this forum act like they're 12. I don't agree with keeping your starters in the entire game when the score is out of hand. We have different points of view. Let's talk about them in an adult manner.

By the way, I don't "hates" Kenton. I just don't agree with their actions last week. I have never said anything else negative about Kenton.

[kwdtn89]

I was unaware that I was crying. I thank you all for your sympathy and encouragement during this time of peril.

Seriously, the Kenton posters on this forum act like they're 12. I don't agree with keeping your starters in the entire game when the score is out of hand. We have different points of view. Let's talk about them in an adult manner.

By the way, I don't "hates" Kenton. I just don't agree with their actions last week. I have never said anything else negative about Kenton.

Really we act like we are 12. Look at your post neers. All you do is wine and complain like your still in high school.

So please explain how we are acting like a 12 year old? I have said all along that Massie was the team to beat in this region. I'm not the one that has said that Kenton is going to dominate this game

So who is acting like a 12 year old and complaining about what the other teams does on the field.

You have your opinion and everyone is entitled to it. But when you come on hear and bash the team and the coach I will take exception to that and I will let you know. Coach Mauk does not keep Maty in the games to pad his stats. And if you have PROOF that he is doing this then I will except your opinion. But make sure you have proof before you make a statement like that.

[K_H_S_86...]

Score as much as you can. As I used to say when I coached: "It's not my job to stop my offense, that is your job". Talking to the opposing coach of course.

Well said....According to neers you sound like a 12 year old...

[glade]

kwdtn89: I can honestly say that I could care less about what Kenton does. I have the same views as Neers when it comes to sportsmanship and player development.

[theoldballgame]

I can see where Neers is coming from in his/her belief. I think it is risky for Coach Mauk to leave Maty in the game and risk the chance of an injury to his entire offense. However, part of that is putting up big numbers in the postseason to inflate the career stats. Should he stop scoring? No. But if an opposing player is willing to take a 15 yard penalty late in the game for a knock out shot at the QB, coach Mauk might think twice.

[K_H_S_86...]

kwdtn89: I can honestly say that I could care less about what Kenton does. I have the same views as Neers when it comes to sportsmanship and player development.

Then why post here?

[glade]

I like reading about how a team scores a bunch a points and nobody admits that the coach is padding the stats for his "QB." Am I wrong?

[wbl_fan_wapak]

If he were padding stats for his QB, then why during the regular season did he take the QB in the middle of the 3rd quarter in all the games except 2? He only played 1 complete game in the regular season which was against OG.

The Kenton strategy was to onside kick every kickoff getting the ball back closer to the endzone or to prevent a running team from winding down the clock. Kenton pass attack makes games go slow and long.

If coach Mauk wanted to pad stats, he easily could by just leaving his QB in the game. But he doesn't, so nice try.

[kwdtn89]

You can't score 62 points when you don't have the ball. I see Massie executing long drives on the ground while the Kenton offense sits and watches. I'm a JA fan and can say that our coaches pull the starters pretty quick when we have a reasonable lead. The mainstay of our program has been the development of the younger players by giving them varsity time on Friday nights. Nobody cares about personal stats or how many points we score. If we score a lot in the second half of some these games its because our JV kids are better than our opponents backups. Neers understood that it was his responsibility to develop the young guys who backed him up when he played. The Kenton starters need more snaps. They had the pre-season and the regular season games. Massie by 10 and nobody scores more than 30.

Kenton Does develop there younger players. The second string QB is not bad. With the offense that Kenton runs it is important to keep the starters ready to play each week and if that means that I keep them in until the 4 quarter then so be it. It is important to have your starters ready to play 4 quarters of football come playoff time. And the level of competition that teams play also determine when you take the starters out.

I have seen games that Mauk has taken his starters out in the 3 quarter and the other coach leaves his first string defense in the game. Then the JV's start getting there but kicked all over the field. It like taking the lambs to the slaughter. I would do the same thing and put my starters back in the game.
IMO that other coach is the one being disrespectful and my starters will go back in the game. This has happened all to often in Kenton games.

Glade, have you been to a Kenton game or do you know the coach?

[K_H_S_86...]

I like reading about how a team scores a bunch a points and nobody admits that the coach is padding the stats for his "QB." Am I wrong?

What "stats" are you talking about? You make it sound like throwing 63 TDs and over 4800 yards is an EASY thing to do? If these are the "stats" you are talking about...Why dont you just give these kids a break and admit they are good at what they do?...Why must you complain about it, and not sit back and enjoy what is going on?...

[glade]

wbl_fan: I don't understand. I'm assuming Kenton completes a high percentage of its passes. So, how is the game longer? Also, why do they have a strategy of giving the opponent the ball at midfield after they score. What is their onside kick recovery percentage? In the playoffs, teams can actually score points if you give them the ball at midfield.

[kwdtn89]

If he were padding stats for his QB, then why during the regular season did he take the QB in the middle of the 3rd quarter in all the games except 2? He only played 1 complete game in the regular season which was against OG.

The Kenton strategy was to onside kick every kickoff getting the ball back closer to the endzone or to prevent a running team from winding down the clock. Kenton pass attack makes games go slow and long.

If coach Mauk wanted to pad stats, he easily could by just leaving his QB in the game. But he doesn't, so nice try.

You are so correct. All the posters that think Coach Mauk is padding Maty's stats don't know the team, have probably never seen them play, and don't know the kind of person and coach that Mauk is. And they get on here and say that he leaves Maty in the game just to pad his stats just don't have a clue and want to complain!!!!!

The Alder posters should be worrying more about Alter and not Kenton right now.

[glade]

kwdtn89: No. I don't know anyone from Kenton. I mean no disrespect to the Kenton faithful, but you'd be sick if a key starter went down injured and you were leading by a huge margin. I know injuries can occur at anytime, but they seem prevalent when kids are playing at 75% speed because of the score.

[coachbhs01]

you guys.......calm down. like ex said, kenton got out scored in the second half. Carlisle didn't quit why should kenton. feed your young kids to the wolves....thats real smart. i hate when teams and others feel sorry for themselves when they get hammered. kenton dont run the ball so is it running up the score when you throw a 5 yard pass that goes for 60. come on. .........anyway.........yes glade it is hard to score when your offense is on the side line. but as i recall massie's O struggled against taft. not too sure that kentons D will be faster(lol) but will be much better than taft. and i would say there is no way kenton scores less than 30. so lets make a wager glade.......as i see it the regional final will be JA and Kenton. if kenton scores more than 30 against massie, you have to post nothing but positive things about kenton all next week. and if they dont, i will post great thing about JA all next week......what do ya say?!?!?

[glade]

kwdtn89: And, I dont care about Maty's stats. Sounds like I was wrong about the stat thing and I apologize. I'm not worried about Alter. If they are better, they'll win. The kids will move on and be successful at whatever they choose to do. If they win, we'll be excited and plan on playing the winner of your game. Enjoy the game on Friday night.

[kwdtn89]

What "stats" are you talking about? You make it sound like throwing 63 TDs and over 4800 yards is an EASY thing to do? If these are the "stats" you are talking about...Why dont you just give these kids a break and admit they are good at what they do?...Why must you complain about it, and not sit back and enjoy what is going on?...

It's called ENVY!!!!

Look at Jordy Scanlon's rushing numbers! He is an awesome running back and has had one of the best high school careers in Ohio history. Does anyone complain about his coach padding his stats....NO!

Maty is one of the best QB's I have seen play in high school and is have a great career and all people want to do is say COACH IS PADDING HIS STATS!!!

These people do not know the team or coach Mauk.

This is supposed to be a thread about the Massie Vs Kenton game so lets get back on the subject.

[glade]

coachbhs01: It's a deal, but Kenton has to win. Can't score 30 and lose. And, I hope your crystal ball is correct. I still believe Alter is much better than a 6 seed and JA will have to play great to win.

[LondonPride01]

I'm beginning to think that Londonpride and neers hates Kenton. They do nothing but complain and wine about what Kenton does. Do you 2 have anything nice to say?

Well said Ex. This is the playoffs and Londonpride and neers were not at the game Friday night. If Coach Mauk takes his first string offense out of the game and the coach of the other team does not then I too would leave my first team in the game. I know coach Mauk and he a very humble and respectable man.

Kenton Beat a good team and in convincing fashion and all neers and London can do is find something negative to say.

No I do not hate Kenton. I could care less about Kenton and the only reason I am on this thread is because you guys are playing Massie and I am pulling for Massie to win D4 (wouldn't mind Alder either).

Good luck to BOTH teams this week in practice!

[theoldballgame]

4 teams remain with 3 of the 4(JA, KA and CM) playing the same physical style of play while the other(K) plays the spread and no huddle. Who has the edge?

[coachbhs01]

okay they have to win. this will be fun. and yes your right. alter is much better than the 6 seed. and yes your pioneers must play well to win. but i think they will. should be a very physical and violent football game. good luck to the public school!!!! Kenton VS Alder week 13!

[K_H_S_86...]

It's called ENVY!!!!

Look at Jordy Scanlon's rushing numbers! He is an awesome running back and has had one of the best high school careers in Ohio history. Does anyone complain about his coach padding his stats....NO!

Maty is one of the best QB's I have seen play in high school and is have a great career and all people want to do is say COACH IS PADDING HIS STATS!!!

These people do not know the team or coach Mauk.

This is supposed to be a thread about the Massie Vs Kenton game so lets get back on the subject.

Success is not ordinary there for most people do not understand it....Im glad we get to watch 2 of the best(and most successful) players in the state go at it Friday and teams...All for 7 bucks :)

Hope no one gets hurt!!!

[kwdtn89]

Well said coach!!! I'm calm but I'm not going to apologize for sticking up for the team and coach Mauk when people post negative comments about them. I will always defend what the Coach does but I will also be the first to admit when I think he is wrong.

Some post opinions and thoughts before they think or have proof to what they say.

[kwdtn89]

coachbhs01: It's a deal, but Kenton has to win. Can't score 30 and lose. And, I hope your crystal ball is correct. I still believe Alter is much better than a 6 seed and JA will have to play great to win.

I still will not predict who wins the Alter-Alder game. I will give my prediction at the end of the week. All I will say is it is a toss up. I think Alder has improved a step and Alter took a step back from last year. Still both really good teams.

I think both Massie and Kenton will score over 30. I can see a great game between 2 very good teams.

[coachbhs01]

i agree kwd........to have a successful program, as a coach you have to have the parents and the community behind you. i'm glad to see that you support your coach and players the way the kenton faithfull does.

as for who has the edge......i personally think the teams with the best quarterbacks are the most dangerous. i think that all 4 teams defenses are very comparible. but the more things you make a defense prepare for the better off your gonna be. kenton and JA have the best two quarteback in the region. simply cause they are both great throwers as well as runners. having a great QB makes it a nightmare for D coordinators

[miner]

The game will be broadcast on 105.5 FM, Buckeye Country, with Stew Gardner, and Roger Barber.

Looking forward to the "new" Welcome Stadium, and the Sidney site is great.

[snoopdog3]

You can't score 62 points when you don't have the ball. I see Massie executing long drives on the ground while the Kenton offense sits and watches. I'm a JA fan and can say that our coaches pull the starters pretty quick when we have a reasonable lead. The mainstay of our program has been the development of the younger players by giving them varsity time on Friday nights. Nobody cares about personal stats or how many points we score. If we score a lot in the second half of some these games its because our JV kids are better than our opponents backups. Neers understood that it was his responsibility to develop the young guys who backed him up when he played. The Kenton starters need more snaps. They had the pre-season and the regular season games. Massie by 10 and nobody scores more than 30.

Dear fella, i hope you come back fri night and see how wrong you are on ur score prediction. your pretty clueless, and i mean that in a good christian way.

[Freak On A Leash]

Welcome is a great venue for this game. I think it favors Kenton to play on the turf.
Good luck to both teams.

[bcubed]

Welcome is a great venue for this game. I think it favors Kenton to play on the turf.
Good luck to both teams.

Don't forget Massie's home field is turf!

[neers32]

I'll just get on here to clear some air: I never said anything about Kenton padding stats. And if Mauk is going for some kind of passing record, then leave him in all 48 minutes of every single game so he can get it. If he's not, then get him out as soon as the game is in hand. You can call it "whining" or you can say that I am jealous, that's fine. This is simply my OPINION. There's no need to be disrespectful, as I have not been.

By the way, I LOVE the way Kenton plays football. Going for 2 pt conversions and kicking onside kicks all game is GREAT football.

[snoopdog3]

Turf by far favors kenton done deal!!! Welcome stadium will def be a step up from Carlisle's glorified portable bleachers. and we wont have to show up 2 1/2 hours early to get a seat lol. Ive seen 3 games at welcome and my team won every time, lets make it 4 for 4 lets go cats. Watch Out For Kenton!

[snoopdog3]

Ok neers you call us children for getting sick of your whining and complaining, way to step it up bro. go alter.

[climbers93]

I like Kenton to win.

[pdoubleop]

Getting sick of his "whining and complaining" doesn't make you children, the way you berate anyone who doesn't agree with you makes you children.

[LEalumnus]

I'm no expert, but you can't be a nice-guy and pull the starters in the 2nd quarter for 11 weeks and then run out on week 12 and expect to compete for 4 hard quarters against the number #1 team in the state. You can work on conditioning all year but nothing prepares you for 4 quarters more than a real-time live action. I'm pretty sure the Sophomores at Kenton would trade some 3rd quarter development for a shot at holding up the trophy. You gotta be all in come playoff time. You can't worry about injuries. The 3rd quarter against Carlisle was probably live practice in preparation for Massie.

[milaker]

Finally---the most intelligent response yet. Great job LE. You may not think you understand football, but you have a better handle on this situation than most. Yes, you can have sportmanship and the desire to improve your team at the same time and that is what Kenton has done all year. Now another sportmanship question while we are on it. When the game is clearly decided and the winning teams pulls their starters when does the opposing team do the same? I have observed that many non-winning teams leave their first string in. Is that good sportsmanship????

[pdoubleop]

I think there are mixed opinions regarding pulling starters. Many believe that the losing team should pull their starters first as an acknowledgement of defeat.

[MASSIE]

Massie dentistry is emailing you to remind you of your appointment on Friday. Doctors Scanlon,Wilkie and Calhoun will be performing your (teeth)tooth extraction.We are keeping your costs down($9) by eliminating anesthesia.Our insturments(plyers) only appear to be rusty.We promise,you won't feel a thing.

[tugnut]

I think it will be a good game but, talking about being cocky on both sides, jeesh!...I think teams need to be hummbled...neither team won it all last year so, focus on one game at a time. Both teams are great teams, it will be a battle, and may the kids enjoy the ride. You can talk all you want...it is obvious that neither one of you have been there (winning it all), or you would act like it. Act like you have been in the playoffs, act like you can play football, and go play on the feild. I think Massie wins another one. 28-14

[Hocus Pocus]

Can massie grind this one out and control the ball? ...the key to victory.

[Landlord]

IMO this game will be high scoring with the winner in the forties. 2nd half defensive stops will determine the winner.

[pdoubleop]

Can massie grind this one out and control the ball? ...the key to victory.

I think so. Kenton is an explosive team that's very dangerous but I think CM will be able to keep Maty off the field and apply pressure to him while he is in. I'm looking for an outcome similar to last year. This should be a REALLY good game.

[ex_dc_atc]

Massie fans, what can we expect from thsi year's CM team. I have yet to make it to one of their games. I know the wishbone is in full effect. Does CM throw more than in year's past? Who is the attack coming from, mostly Scanlon? Typically the wishbone is an equal opportunity offense and I expect that's the case. I will comment on the fact that Clinton Massie always has a very civil, knowledgable fan base. I'm not implying that other schools don't by making that comment. Just commending CM because I feel they get overlooked at times.

[pdoubleop]

Massie has been more successful with the passing game this year. I would say it's used similar to Alter's passing from last year. Yes, the wishbone is still in full effect. Scanlon has been the primary ball carrier but teams have seen what happens when you concentrate solely on him. Richardson has 10 td passes this year.

[kwdtn89]

Massie has been more successful with the passing game this year. I would say it's used similar to Alter's passing from last year. Yes, the wishbone is still in full effect. Scanlon has been the primary ball carrier but teams have seen what happens when you concentrate solely on him. Richardson has 10 td passes this year.

Go ahead and pass the ball. Kenton will stack the line and make Massie throw the ball. Kentons secondary is very good (4 INT's Against Carlisle) and the D-line is fast and strong.

Should be a good game. Better than last year.

[Landlord]

Exactly Hocus Pocus. Great Massie O vs improved Kenton D.

[Wild Bob Buck]

Could some Massie fan fill us in on a little bit of the history of CM football? Always been good? How many Championships? Relatively new success? Any successful alums play or playing in college or NFL? Just don't know too much about the history and was just curious. Thanks!

[coachbhs01]

the passing game for massie is nothing like alters from last year. if i'm not mistaken, alter pounds it from the bone, but also has a shotgun set. correct me if i'm wrong but has massie ever lined up in the gun?? and yes scanlon is their best rusher(obviously) and gets the ball most of the time.

all i know is this. if massie plays like they did against taft it WILL get ugly. kenton will be able to stop the run so its gonna take more than the usual 1 - 2 receiver routes to best kenton. coaching and game planning will be the deciding factor......edge, ......coach mauk

[gym_coach]

Finally more about the game on Friday than what about when to pull starters, game in hand, blah, blah, blah.

Looking forward to the Cat's pulling off the upset. Last year we came back and were one or two dropped passes from tying it up late in that game.

Kenton will score more than last year, question is, will CM as well? Only thing that will stop Kenton is the weather, but that didn't effect last weeks game at Carlisle either.

[kwdtn89]

I'm no expert, but you can't be a nice-guy and pull the starters in the 2nd quarter for 11 weeks and then run out on week 12 and expect to compete for 4 hard quarters against the number #1 team in the state. You can work on conditioning all year but nothing prepares you for 4 quarters more than a real-time live action. I'm pretty sure the Sophomores at Kenton would trade some 3rd quarter development for a shot at holding up the trophy. You gotta be all in come playoff time. You can worry about injuries. The 3rd quarter against Carlisle was probably live practice in preparation for Massie.

Well said!!! Kenton's offense is like the energizer bunny. It takes athletes and good conditioning to keep up for 4 quarters of football with the Cat's. OG knew this and played a great game against the them.

I'm sure Massie will be ready for the challenge of facing the 5 wide no huddle attack. But the question is can there defense keep up all game long. They must keep the ball out of Mauks hands.

This is not last year and both teams are improved. However I will say that Kenton has improved dramatically over last year. I read a post on here that someone thinks Bobby Handell is not as good of a LB as Fackler was but I think he is just as capable as Fackler was. I don't think we will see Kenton turn the ball over 5 times in this game like last year.

The QB from Carlisle was supposed to be good but he threw 4 INT's and was forced into throwing the ball because of the pressure. Massie will have to have there timing down to complete passes against Kenton's defense.

[mlisi39]

183 posts already? Any chance this game is on TV this week?

[44golfer]

i am telling you guys that you are giving j. alder way too much credit. to steal a phrase from espn's scott van pelt K. Alter will house J. alder. alder is overrated. massie was up 2 tds the whole game and probably played their worst game of the year that night. if they had had replay the last td wouldnt of counted.......... mcsurely was p#ssed and i dont blame him. also i told you carlisle would get blowed out too. i want massie to win this week but if they dont get up on them early it is over because they dont have a passing game. mauk bring plenty of padding because massie will come ready to stick you, lead by Mr. Calhoun aka beast

[pdoubleop]

This thread will end up way over 20 pages. :eek:

[MASSIE]

I congradulate Carlisle on a great year. With that said, they were at the same level as Waynesville,Valley View...Good but not great.Waynesville had Carisle beaten, inside the 5 with just under two to play.MASSIE BEAT WAYNESVILLE 59-7.It was not even that close.Again Carlisle was not that good.

[ex_dc_atc]

Let me help push this to page 6.......

[pdoubleop]

I wonder if the pages format differently for people? Is there a setting to change the number of posts per page? For me, I'm putting this post on page 10 right now.

[kwdtn89]

I predicted 15 pages and I think this thread will surpass that.

[cm_backer]

Gym coach..I love it, you start your post with "finally an intelligent post about the game" and then go on to do what you are putting down. Are you absolutely sure Kenton will score more than they did last year? Is it possible for Kenton to score more than they did and Massie to score less than last year and still win? Could Massie score more points? Oh sorry, that was what you were already questioning.

After watching film of Friday's game, I am betting that Massie's Oline performance will be better than what Kenton saw at carlisle, you won't see Massie players quitting on plays and arguing with each other, or any of the other nonsense that went on. I also doubt, Coach will give Kenton a short field down 1 score in the 1st quarter, wow. Unlikely, you will see the panic that set in on a team that was ill prepared and lacked the mental fortitude to play championship ball. But you will see one of the best offenses in the state, sorry its not as sexy as the 5 wide no huddle, that makes everyone's legs tingle, but it has been just as effective. Kenton will make some plays and so will Massie, it may come down to who can get 3 points late in the game, and when I say who I mean Massie because I know Kenton doesn't kick. Wouldn't it be ironic that a game with supposedly so much talent on the field comes down to whether a soccer player can put it through the uprights late in the game. I'm guessing he can given the chance.

Good luck to both teams.

[cm_backer]

Coachbhs..thanks for your input, I'm sure the coaches will utilize all the help they can get from Blan. Its good to know that coaching and game planning will be the deciding factor, last year most would say that went to Massie, guess we will wait to see who it goes to on Friday.

[kwdtn89]

CM you will see (2) of the best offenses in the state of Ohio. Coach Mauk knows that the team will see better line play than they did against Carlisle. I also saw some highlights of the Taft game and there QB is no where near the talent of Maty and he threw for 258 yards. Cm would you like to make a wager on the game that Kenton scores more points than they did last year?

[cm_backer]

89..Yes I do believe that Mauk is a better QB than Taper of Taft, but if you watch game, they got nothing deep, his receivers made outstanding plays on balls they had to go up for. And because they didn't get any long balls they had many drives stall. The second TD is a prime example of their athletic play, the safety made a good play on the ball and receiver went up top to create a dual catch and then wrestled it away from him in the end zone, just a great athletic play. No offense, but I don't think Kenton has as athletic receivers as Taft. Not saying they aren't good, Morrison looks tough after the catch, but if Massie defenders are in position to make plays, as they were last week, its unlikely that the Kenton WRs will be the able to go up and over the DBs to snag the ball. Hopefully I'm not wrong, because if I am, it could be a long night.

[kwdtn89]

89..Yes I do believe that Mauk is a better QB than Taper of Taft, but if you watch game, they got nothing deep, his receivers made outstanding plays on balls they had to go up for. And because they didn't get any long balls they had many drives stall. The second TD is a prime example of their athletic play, the safety made a good play on the ball and receiver went up top to create a dual catch and then wrestled it away from him in the end zone, just a great athletic play. No offense, but I don't think Kenton has as athletic receivers as Taft. Not saying they aren't good, Morrison looks tough after the catch, but if Massie defenders are in position to make plays, as they were last week, its unlikely that the Kenton WRs will be the able to go up and over the DBs to snag the ball. Hopefully I'm not wrong, because if I am, it could be a long night.

After watching the highlights Tafts QB just threw the ball up for grabs. He did this on a couple of throws. The reason for this is because they have tall receivers that can go up and grab the ball. You will not see Maty throw the ball this way. They throw to a spot and Maty can throw the ball 60 to 70 yards on a rope.

There is a huge difference between Taft throwing the ball and Kenton throwing the ball. Watch any of the film on youtube and see for yourself.

[ex_dc_atc]

Really Kenton doesn't always go deep either, they have a lot of short passes. Carlisle did give Mauk a little trouble when making him move around in the first quarter. The trouble is when he just takes off and runs....

[Landlord]

Mauk throws 60 yards on a rope sounds crazy but it is true!!!

[44golfer]

snoopdog you are right i know nothing about golf and even less about football. but one thing i do know is i speak from my head and not from my heart, like i said earlier i dont have a dog in either race but i have seen all 4 teams play and i just hope that massie hasnt peaked yet because i dont think they have played their best game. if mauk is throwing darts 100 mph like he did last year and his receivers arent catching it and calhoun ( aka beast) gets his hands on him he wont like it...... oh one more thing if you seen his dad you wouldnt call him calcoon trust me about 6-6 350,,, he will be there wearing a big long black coat you cant miss him

[Celinafan]

Well said coach!!! I'm calm but I'm not going to apologize for sticking up for the team and coach Mauk when people post negative comments about them. I will always defend what the Coach does but I will also be the first to admit when I think he is wrong.

Some post opinions and thoughts before they think or have proof to what they say.

So, if Maty goes down with a season or even a career ending injury playing late in a game up 63-12, you defend your Coach? How? Because he and the other starters needed those extra snaps to be ready to to play 4 quarters? Please!

[K_H_S_86...]

So, if Maty goes down with a season or even a career ending injury playing late in a game up 63-12, you defend your Coach? How? Because he and the other starters needed those extra snaps to be ready to to play 4 quarters? Please!

I dont know any coach that wont play someone because they are afraid he might get hurt!!!!....You know as well as everyone else you can get hurt at anytime of the game..... Just get off "if" he gets hurt... Its getting old....No body wants anyone ever too get hurt...

[coachbhs01]

thats exactly what i was thinknig KHS. it don't matter weather or not its in the first quarter or the fourth the odds off getting hurt are the same.

CM_BACKER......i was just stating my opinion....and how do you know i'm from blan.....is blan the only school with the letters BHS??? anyway.....i am basing my prediction strictly on what i seen last friday night. massie couldnt defend the jump ball. kenton does not rely on the jump ball....and its true, maty does throw the ball 60 yards on a frozen rope. so you will have to defend alot more of the field. i really would like to see massie win this game, but i'm a realist and just don't see it happenin

[sweatsocks69]

hey snoopie, why dont you meet Mr. Calhoun before the game and call him calcoon.. He is not hard to find, as others said, 6'6, 350 lbs, actually I think he weighs a little more. But I would never say that too his face. Guess you wouldnt have guts enough to say calcoon to him either. I dont say much on here, just enjoy reading what peoples thoughts are. But you snoop made yourself sound like a bigot. Hope all the other Kenton fans dont act like you. Go Massie. Good luck to both teams.

[phatguy]

If this does come down to be a close game which it quite possibly may, Dart, Massie's kicker has been solid if not outstanding all season long. Looking forward to this matchup...if it's anything like last year its gonna be fun. It will also be interesting to me to if McSurley uses same game plan as last year or tweaks some things.

[cattrain]

I hope Clinton Massie puts it to Kenton in this one. I still can't believe how poorly Kenton reflected the ideals of high school football last week.

neers32: If only you were sitting on the Kenton side of the game last week, you could possibly feel different. The hand gestures and taunting from the Carlisle football team to the Kenton crowd, left you shocked and speechless. It was incredibly sad to see how preoccupied these young men were with "the other side of the field." They lost the game mentally and it showed in the physical score.

[gym_coach]

CM backer_

You remind me of women who read too much into what was said. All I am trying to get across is Kenton will score more than 3TD's meaning they will have at least 4 in this game. With half of the 2 point conversions made, they could end up with 28 to CM's 30 (If they scored the same as last year). I never posted who would win after my scoring predictions. You Don't need to blow up over it. Only one team as held Kenton to 3 TD's this season and our Cats have learned and improved since then. Good Luck to both teams!!

[glade]

44golfer: Alder played it's worst game of the year against Massie and missed a FG for the win (for the 2nd year in a row). And yes, the touchdown counted. The ref started the clock and Massie was sleeping.

[cm_backer]

No coach, you did the same thing most other posters from Kenton do, think that the only thing that can stop the Kenton O is themselves or the weather. Nothing factual, just big wind, and I didn't blow up, simply stated the hypocrisy of your statement. Don't backtrack now and say you said something else, go back and read the post.

Coachbhs..you've posted your from Blan before, and I said the coaches would probably welcome advice from you. What's to get upset about.

[floorguy]

44golfer: Alder played it's worst game of the year against Massie and missed a FG for the win (for the 2nd year in a row). And yes, the touchdown counted. The ref started the clock and Massie was sleeping.

The same can be said about Massie that was their worse game of the year too.Alder had a pat blocked that keep them from tying the game,which lead to their loss.But that game is in the past.With no disrespect to anyone,this is not an Alder - Massie thread so lets get back to Massie - Kenton.

[pdoubleop]

I'm feeling a little left out here!

All you you guys are jerks and nobody likes you!

nanny boo boo

love,
me

[s648228]

The Game will be played at Dayton Welcome Stadium

[fan88]

Quarterback play is crucial and that's why Kenton gets the nod. Richardson, as good as he has been, is a complete novice of the game compared to Mauk. Mauk can lead his team to victory at any given time. If your down 14 points in the 4th quarter, you depend on your Quarterback to air it out and save you. Richardson does not possess this ability, Mauk does. Kenton by 28.

[MASSIE]

fan88-The same two QB'S played last year. 30-22

[wolfbuck]

To Tell you the truth Im (Kenton Fan) tired of hearing all the trash talk here. I think they ought to close the thread down and just play the game friday. Too many people saying "My dog is bigger and better your dog. I know people get caught in the hype of a game but lets be nice about it and remember whats important in life. Love of God and people and love your neighbor as you would want to be loved.

[CMorris_99]

Different QB's and different offenses. Let's see if Mauk has the toughness to run the option down peoples throat. Fan 88 get a clue.

[QB Guru]

Dear Kenton Fans,
Let us introduce you to Fan 88. He will be your biggest supporter outside of Kenton. He has the worst case of Massie envy known to man!

[kwdtn89]

Different QB's and different offenses. Let's see if Mauk has the toughness to run the option down peoples throat. Fan 88 get a clue.

We don't run an option at Kenton Cm. We don't have a running back, Maty is our running back.

[CMxFALCONS]

Fan88 will never get a clue Morris. He is the same guy who told us on here that WCH would pass all over our weak secondary and that we "had no recieveing threats."... and 49 points later he realized... So now he gets on here, like Guru said, because he has a HUGE case of Massie envy!

[kwdtn89]

Dear Kenton Fans,
Let us introduce you to Fan 88. He will be your biggest supporter outside of Kenton. He has the worst case of Massie envy known to man!

I know about Fan88. Richardson is a good QB but no where near the talent of Maty. Is Richardson being recruited by D1 schools?

[CMorris_99]

No. I would never compare those two, that would be stupid. Hence the reason I made the comment toward fan88. Of course Richardson did look like DI talent against those blue lions. (couldn't resist)

[kwdtn89]

CM I remember him from the WCH post. I supported Massie all year and you have a great team. However you know I can't support you in this game. Should be a very exciting game between 2 unbelievable teams this Friday night.

Good luck to both and no injuries please!

[gym_coach]

No coach, you did the same thing most other posters from Kenton do, think that the only thing that can stop the Kenton O is themselves or the weather. Nothing factual, just big wind, and I didn't blow up, simply stated the hypocrisy of your statement. Don't backtrack now and say you said something else, go back and read the post.

Coachbhs..you've posted your from Blan before, and I said the coaches would probably welcome advice from you. What's to get upset about.

I am not back- tracking, but like I say to most women, "whatever you say honey, I don't want to argue with you." Just because I said the only thing that will slow down this offense is the weather is not a slam against CM. I just think Kenton's improvement from last year to this season is greater than CM's. Friday will tell. Just happy to see nice weather for Friday and the Wildcat "Air Show" coming to the birthplace of Aviation in Dayton Ohio!

[CMxFALCONS]

Of course Richardson did look like DI talent against those blue lions.:D:D:D

[bamgam18]

I'd like to see Massie in Canton too, but I'd love to see Kenton in Massilon for the DIV final! LOL

Go Cats!

[MASSIE]

This game will come down to mental toughness and a test of wills. I think thats why we love football. God bless America and friday nite football!

[kwdtn89]

Hey Massie fans, I watched some film of a couple of games and I have to say Why does the team run to the right side about 80 percent of the plays. Is that where your best Lineman play? I also noticed a lot of chop blocking at or below the knees by the Center also. Kenton will have to be aware of this and I'm sure they are. And after watching the Kenton Vs Massie last years film I will say that Kenton was the only team that was able to get penetration into the backfield. Jordy was changing direction very well in that game to avoid a tackle. Jordy only had 188 yards on 38 carries in last years game. He will get his yards in this one for sure but it is up to the defense to tackle him at the legs. Need to play aggressively smart on the defense. I don't think Massie will be able to run the ball outside much with Kenton's Speed. They will have to try and pound the ball up the middle. JMO!!!

Gunner is one heck of a linebacker and has a knack for finding the ball. He will be the Key to Massie's defense against Kenton. Kenton will find holes in the Massie defense and Maty will get his yards. If I'm not mistaken he had around 400 yards passing on that defense last year.

Both teams have there strengths and weaknesses! It's up to the Coach's to send in the plays to exploit the weaknesses but the players have to execute.

These are just my opinions from observing video!

[HardinCofan]

Good Luck to both teams on a well played game with NO injuries...keep it in perspective folks!! Gymcoach...be careful what you say....your wife will be after you!!! ha ha!! I know who you are !!!


GO CATS!!!

[coachbhs01]

Kwd.... great post. Jordy is the left half back so naturally they run right a lot. They also like to run behind a beast lineman(mike stenger) and he will line up to the unb side . Calhoun is a stud at linebacker and the evans kid isn't bad either. I promise kenton has not seen anything like these two all year.

No doubt both teams will get their yards but if kenton turns the ball over like they did last year expect massie in the regional final.

Its too bad the state championship game has to be played in dayton and not canton!!

[neers32]

I'd like to see Massie in Canton too, but I'd love to see Kenton in Massilon for the DIV final! LOL

Go Cats!

Perhaps the best post in this thread! Haha, nice.

[gym_coach]

Cm backer-

I am just confident in my team, just as you should be with yours. We will see what happens Friday, and I hope you'll be a "big boy" when it comes to post-game talk.

[kwdtn89]

Kwd.... great post. Jordy is the left half back so naturally they run right a lot. They also like to run behind a beast lineman(mike stenger) and he will line up to the unb side . Calhoun is a stud at linebacker and the evans kid isn't bad either. I promise kenton has not seen anything like these two all year.

No doubt both teams will get their yards but if kenton turns the ball over like they did last year expect massie in the regional final.

Its too bad the state championship game has to be played in dayton and not canton!!

The stud LB for OG is just as good as Gunner. I'm sure that we will see the same Massie defensive scheme as last year. If it isn't broke don't fix it!

Both teams are now familiar with each other and know what the other team is going to bring. The key to this game is the line play on both sides.

[coachbhs01]

Kwd....what is this young mans name from OG. Is there any film of him online??

[floorguy]

I'm sure the defensive scheme will be close to the same as last years,but just tweaked a little bit.Is it Friday yet?Should be a great game.

[pdoubleop]

The stud LB for OG is just as good as Gunner. I'm sure that we will see the same Massie defensive scheme as last year. If it isn't broke don't fix it!

Both teams are now familiar with each other and know what the other team is going to bring. The key to this game is the line play on both sides.

Are you referring to the Siefker kid? I don't know much about him but while I'm sure he's a pretty good linebacker, I am doubtful that he brings it like Gunner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bmCpQUTo9w

Some of this may look familiar to you Kenton folks.

[cm_backer]

Snoop..there aren't many programs that can make that claim and it is something to be proud of, and the Massie faithful would love to be there someday. But, we need to win one before we can win two, and we can't get to one without winning this week. So the boys and coaches will prepare like they do every week and put together a good game plan and compete on Friday. If we are properly prepared and execute to perfection, I am confident that we have the talent to prevail.

Good luck to both teams on Friday.

[JJ]

This is going to calm down now. Let's keep this on the game. :mad:

[cm_backer]

Sorry jj

[snoopdog3]

Thank you jj

[JJ]

I understand that things get heated, but some of this was over the line.

[kwdtn89]

Are you referring to the Siefker kid? I don't know much about him but while I'm sure he's a pretty good linebacker, I am doubtful that he brings it like Gunner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bmCpQUTo9w

Some of this may look familiar to you Kenton folks.

I have seen both kids play and they are very similar in style of play and both can bring it. Have you seen the kid form OG play?

[pdoubleop]

Oh boy...Well, we knew this game would make for a heckuva thread!

Nearly 240 posts and it's only Tuesday!

[pdoubleop]

I have seen both kids play and they are very similar in style of play and both can bring it. Have you seen the kid form OG play?

No, to be honest I haven't. That's why I said that I didn't know much about him. It just gave me an opportunity to show off Gunners highlight reel!:D

[kwdtn89]

No, to be honest I haven't. That's why I said that I didn't know much about him. It just gave me an opportunity to show off Gunners highlight reel!:D

Trust me I have watched all the film I can find to give my honest opinions. I like to have as much facts before I give my opinions.

These are 2 very good teams with contrasting styles of playing football on offense. The defenses are similar. Here is a breakdown of what I have seen of both ball clubs.

Defensive size = Massie
Defensive speed = Kenton
Defensive secondary = Kenton
Defensive line = Even

Offensive line = Massie
QB = Kenton
RB = Massie
Receivers = Kenton
Speed = Kenton
size = Massie

Special teams = Massie
Coaching staff = I would say Even but I think Kenton has the edge. Both are vary good coaching staffs.

I do wander if Massie will play there big D-Lineman in this game or send out the smaller faster lineman?

[coachbhs01]

Can't find this siefker kid anywhere online. If he is as good as Gunner then he would definately have some footage out there. calhoun is the best I've seen for the past 4 years. He has an incredible nose for the ball and never goes backwards. He's down hill all the time. To see Mauk, Morrison, Scanlon and Calhoun amongst others is going to be a real treat.....and its all for around ten bucks!!

[cm_backer]

I doubt you will see any of out big boys up front on D, they all start on the oline and only play on D to stop the run, doubt we have to worry about that this weekend (at least in the traditional sense), but you Kenton fans may be hearing a familiar announcement, "Mauk sacked by Running", I hope you hear it a lot anyway. Corby's younger brother Wyatt will be one of the D linemen, not quite as big as his big brothers (also has brother Spencer - starting DT for #10 ranked NAIA in nation) but is a little bit meaner (what else would you expect from the youngest of 3 wresting boys) and quicker.

[ex_dc_atc]

It's not surprising that things have escalated on this thread as the region 16 threads throughout the course of the season have been building towards this great post season. We are talking about the best region in the state in DIV and two of the best four teams in DIV in the state. Tensions are high and everyone wants a win. Being a general fan, I also know that these two fan bases are classy and have a ton of support for their teams. Don't let talking trash or pounding your chest misrepresent yourselves or the schools. This is too good of a game for that.

I think this game comes down to one thing, which team inforces their tempo. If it's uptempo and a lot of points are scored, Kenton wins. If CM can slow the game down and turn it into a possession by possession game, CM wins. It's that simple but that complicated as well.

I feel like I've got Kenton by 14. No disrespect to CM. I'll also throw out there that I believe the winner of this game wins this region and wins the DIV state crown, also no disrespect to JA or Alter. That's what type of game we are going to see Friday.

[gym_coach]

I might have missed it, but how is CM's secondary? Fast, quick, etc. What type of Defense does Massie run? How many players go both ways? Just curious. BTW, Kenton will have to prepare just as they have against other powerful running attacks this season and a like our chances, but I am sure our boys will have their hands full.

[fan88]

Different QB's and different offenses. Let's see if Mauk has the toughness to run the option down peoples throat. Fan 88 get a clue.

If you watch videos of Mauk running, several times he runs people over and breaks monster runs. Yeah, no toughness.

[cm_backer]

Massie typically runs a 52 D, but it is unlikely you will see that Friday. Only 1 player goes both ways, Calhoun. IMO, saying you will prepare for Massie like all other powerful running attacks, would be comparable to Massie saying they will prepare for Kenton like all the other spread teams we've played this year. I'm sure your coaching staff is brighter than that.

[pdoubleop]

Massie typically runs a 52 D, but it is unlikely you will see that Friday. Only 1 player goes both ways, Calhoun. IMO, saying you will prepare for Massie like all other powerful running attacks, would be comparable to Massie saying they will prepare for Kenton like all the other spread teams we've played this year. I'm sure your coaching staff is brighter than that.

Good point.

[kwdtn89]

Massie typically runs a 52 D, but it is unlikely you will see that Friday. Only 1 player goes both ways, Calhoun. IMO, saying you will prepare for Massie like all other powerful running attacks, would be comparable to Massie saying they will prepare for Kenton like all the other spread teams we've played this year. I'm sure your coaching staff is brighter than that.

How many teams do you play that runs a 5 wide no huddle all game long...I say none! All Massie fans should already know this.

As for Kenton preparing for what offense Massie runs...well there are St.Marys, Wapak, OG, Bath, Shawnee, and Defiance to name a few. Massie is a better team than the ones I listed but Kenton's defense practices to stop the run.

[kwdtn89]

If you watch videos of Mauk running, several times he runs people over and breaks monster runs. Yeah, no toughness.

Maty is a very tough kid. He will lower his shoulder and lay the wood to someone. And Coach Mauk hates it when he does it but he is a tough kid. At 6'-2" and 185 or 190 #'s and bench presses over 300 #'s I would say he can lay the wood to opposing players. Like Fan said just watch the film.

[Landlord]

I do not think it is fair to question Mauk's toughness, however you can question his ability to run the option, from the original CM99 post.