#5 Kenton vs #1 Clinton-Massie

[cm_backer]

89..Not to sound condescending, but those teams are not as proficient running the ball as Massie, the only team in the state that puts up more running yards is Colerain. Massie is #4 in the state in total yards, with 5,199 yards and 4,660 of those are on the ground and only 539 have come through the air. And our 1st team doesn't play in the 3rd and 4th quarters. So everyone in the state knows we are going to run, run, and run some more. Yet they still have not been able to stop it so far this year. So to my knowledge, there hasn't been a team that has had the gameplan or talent to stop it. Not unsimilar to Kenton, everyone knows what you are going to do, but with the exception of O-G, no one has been able to develop a game plan and has the talent to stop you. IMO, it is a bit naïve to lump Massie in with the other teams other than O-G, and you know how that worked out.

[pdoubleop]

I do not think it is fair to question Mauk's toughness, however you can question his ability to run the option, from the original CM99 post.

Exactly. That was the point he was trying to make. An option QB has more in common with a RB. Questioning Mauks ability to run the option is no different than questioning Richardson's ability to run the spread.

Everyone gets so defensive if a post that includes "Mauk" in it doesn't also include "awesome".

[coachbhs01]

I would say taft stopped you.....wouldn't you agree

[kwdtn89]

89..Not to sound condescending, but those teams are not as proficient running the ball as Massie, the only team in the state that puts up more running yards is Colerain. Massie is #4 in the state in total yards, with 5,199 yards and 4,660 of those are on the ground and only 539 have come through the air. And our 1st team doesn't play in the 3rd and 4th quarters. So everyone in the state knows we are going to run, run, and run some more. Yet they still have not been able to stop it so far this year. So to my knowledge, there hasn't been a team that has had the gameplan or talent to stop it. Not unsimilar to Kenton, everyone knows what you are going to do, but with the exception of O-G, no one has been able to develop a game plan and has the talent to stop you. IMO, it is a bit naïve to lump Massie in with the other teams other than O-G, and you know how that worked out.

CM I was by no means comparing them to Massie. They run the ball and you run the ball!!!!

The defense that Kenton will run is the same one that they run against the teams mentioned. However they have to be ready for a team that is similar but stronger. Your offense is good at what it does and it plays into the strength of the Kenton D. They prepare all year long to stop the run...period!!!

Neither team has seen what these 2 offenses will bring this year. And must I remind you that Massie only won by 8 points with getting 5 turnovers in that game last year.

[Heisman4Heisman]

Could we agree this is one of the more intriguing round 2 match ups in the state of Ohio. That is solely based on last year's result, the amount of experience returning from both respective teams and how each team has dominated in the regular season. Good luck Kenton.

[kwdtn89]

Exactly. That was the point he was trying to make. An option QB has more in common with a RB. Questioning Mauks ability to run the option is no different than questioning Richardson's ability to run the spread.

Everyone gets so defensive if a post that includes "Mauk" in it doesn't also include "awesome".

Really. Who knows how or if Mauk could run the option. I think he would be fine but Kenton does not have a running back so they don't run the option.

BTW you would get defensive too if we said that Jordy was not a good running back. JUST SAYIN!!!

[K_H_S_86...]

Exactly. That was the point he was trying to make. An option QB has more in common with a RB. Questioning Mauks ability to run the option is no different than questioning Richardson's ability to run the spread.

Everyone gets so defensive if a post that includes "Mauk" in it doesn't also include "awesome".

You guys crack me up with this talk of Mauks (in)ability to run the option.. Maty is an athlete if he is asked to do anything on the football field im quite sure he will and can and has ghheeeezzzzzzzzzz..All you CM supporters are NO different than KENTON fans when we dont say in every post that CM is awesome you come out backing your team up....Thats what fans do..... Either way its gonna be a great game Friday...... This KENTON fan is looking forward to a Massiecure:D

RAH-RAH-FOR-KENTON

[Heisman4Heisman]

A massiecre would be m'awe'ksome..jk.

[K_H_S_86...]

^^^^^^ :)^^^^^^:)

[BEN DOVER]

Massie needs to sustain long offensive series and keep Mauk off the field to win this game. Congrats to both for an awesome year. Go Massie bring home a state title!!!!

[gym_coach]

Massie typically runs a 52 D, but it is unlikely you will see that Friday. Only 1 player goes both ways, Calhoun. IMO, saying you will prepare for Massie like all other powerful running attacks, would be comparable to Massie saying they will prepare for Kenton like all the other spread teams we've played this year. I'm sure your coaching staff is brighter than that.

CM Backer

So, you are saying the running game that CM runs is nothing compared to any of Kenton's opponents? As I said, they will prepare, and added that our team will have trouble stopping CM. OG ran over Kenton in week 4 or 5 so hopefully our D as improved.

I am starting to think Kenton should not even show up, we don't have a chance. CM will run the ball well and hopefully Kenton will get enough stops and move the ball on offense.......

[bcubed]

I would say taft stopped you.....wouldn't you agree

Taft didn't stop Scanlon! He ran on them for 269 yards.

[K_H_S_86...]

Taft didn't stop Scanlon! He ran on them for 269 yards.

How many TD's did he have?... Sounds like they keep him and CM outta the endzone!!!

[cm_backer]

Coachbhs..if you can say giving up 400 yards of offense and losing a game is stopping someone I guess they stopped us. But if that is the barometer for success, I hope Kenton stops us the same way. I'll take 1 point OT victory's all the way to Stark Co.

[cm_backer]

86..He had 3, so no he didn't get kept out of the endzone.

[K_H_S_86...]

86..He had 3, so no he didn't get kept out of the endzone.

Lets see you avg 54/55 pts per game.... Id say they did a heck of a job mo....

[s648228]

86..He had 3, so no he didn't get kept out of the endzone.

They stopped you guys by a lot. Where did the 55 points per game go????

[cm_backer]

Sorry, if you think we should apologize for winning, that's not going to happen. We played a quality playoff team and won in OT. If we score 21 a game and win the next 4, I'm good with that.

[snoopdog3]

Nobody said say sorry to me. Pay attention to what is said. 21 points will not do this week, your going to need closer to 42. and compared to what you did in your cupcake schedule, taft did shut you down. For the second week in a row you will not be the more talented team on the field. also try giving scanlon the ball 44 times in this game like last week, i dont think he will hold up. Jeffers Hinkle Handel and Fackler are ready to crush somebody, i know first hand.

[K_H_S_86...]

Sorry, if you think we should apologize for winning, that's not going to happen. We played a quality playoff team and won in OT. If we score 21 a game and win the next 4, I'm good with that.

Yup you did win... Name of the game... Im just tryingto giving props to a team that took you to the wire the #8 seed....No need to be sorry!!!

[K_H_S_86...]

Nobody said say sorry to me. Pay attention to what is said. 21 points will not do this week, your going to need closer to 42. and compared to what you did in your cupcake schedule, taft did shut you down. For the second week in a row you will not be the more talented team on the field. also try giving scanlon the ball 44 times in this game like last week, i dont think he will hold up. Jeffers Hinkle Handel and Fackler are ready to crush somebody, i know first hand.

I think you ran em off dog :)

KENTON has waited a year for this FRIDAY!!!....Clearly the best team lost a year ago!!mo:D

[bcubed]

Nobody said say sorry to me. Pay attention to what is said. 21 points will not do this week, your going to need closer to 42. and compared to what you did in your cupcake schedule, taft did shut you down. For the second week in a row you will not be the more talented team on the field. also try giving scanlon the ball 44 times in this game like last week, i dont think he will hold up. Jeffers Hinkle Handel and Fackler are ready to crush somebody, i know first hand.

So I guess we can say compared to what Kenton did to their cupcake schedule OG shut them down! Scanlon has held up all year and will continue to do so against your vaunted defense.

[K_H_S_86...]

So I guess we can say compared to what Kenton did to their cupcake schedule OG shut them down! Scanlon has held up all year and will continue to do so against your vaunted defense.

We will see come Friday!!!:D

[fbdad45]

Just checked Massey Rating to see where these teams line up. Kenton ranks #1 in offense in the state regardless of division, #12 ranking overall, #59 schedule, and #7 in power. Massie ranks #34 in offense (though scored more points than Kenton), #41 ranking overall, #234 schedule, and #53 in power. These ranking take into effect the competition being played when calculating power and rankings of stats. These are computer generated numbers using many factors. The one thing that stick out to me is here are the Massey state rankings of Kentons 11 game opponents this year, #19,#60, #80,#99,#118,#148,#163,#189,#255,#376, and #388. Here are Massies's 11 game opponents #35,#159,#164,#274,#320,#335,#426,#514,#566,#637,# 658 (Alder and Taft are the first two by the way, #35, &#159). I am not saying a game is played on a computer and I am not saying anything against Massie. But I do take exception to the talk that Kenton hasn't seen anything like Massie. I feel the Massey rating system shows that the WBL does a great job of preparing our league teams for the playoffs. By the way, Colerains offense which I keep seeing as a comparison to Massie in these threads is #2 in the Massey ratings (quite a ways from #34). And before someone jumps on this and says anything, I by no means am saying that Kenton could hang with Colerain, apples and oranges.

[K_H_S_86...]

Just checked Massey Rating to see where these teams line up. Kenton ranks #1 in offense in the state regardless of division, #12 ranking overall, #59 schedule, and #7 in power. Massie ranks #34 in offense (though scored more points than Kenton), #41 ranking overall, #234 schedule, and #53 in power. These ranking take into effect the competition being played when calculating power and rankings of stats. These are computer generated numbers using many factors. The one thing that stick out to me is here are the Massey state rankings of Kentons 11 game opponents this year, #19,#60, #80,#99,#118,#148,#163,#189,#255,#376, and #388. Here are Massies's 11 game opponents #35,#159,#164,#274,#320,#335,#426,#514,#566,#637,# 658. I am not saying a game is played on a computer and I am not saying anything against Massie. But I do take exception to the talk that Kenton hasn't seen anything like Massie. I feel the Massey rating system shows that the WBL does a great job of preparing our league teams for the playoffs. By the way, Colerains offense which I keep seeing as a comparison to Massie in these threads is #2 (quite a ways from #34).

Hmmmmmm.... Interesting... Thanks fbdad45

But these are Stats that state facts....We know CM fans will not like you posting stuff like this...Its only a computer stat and does NOT favor CM...;)

And yes CM fans I know we play the game on the field!!! Im just sayin...

[phatguy]

Kenton folks are awfully confident after putting up 60 plus on a mediocre Carlisle team and poor Massie went OT against Taft who played with much larger Div teams most of season. Just remember...3 things happen when you pass, 2 are bad.

[fbdad45]

So I guess we can say compared to what Kenton did to their cupcake schedule OG shut them down! Scanlon has held up all year and will continue to do so against your vaunted defense.

Read the above post to evaluate Kentons cupcake schedule. Oopsee, you have some frosting on your cheek:)

[pdoubleop]

you take exception? What do you think we've had to listen to for two years now? "Mauks the greatest, Kenton will beat you by 30, you haven't seen anything like Kenton, weak schedule". It's been run in the ground. The same things were said last year and look at what happened then. I think we'll show up at Welcome and give it a shot anyway. You never know, maybe we'll get "lucky" and cause 5 turnovers again.

[ex_dc_atc]

I was shocked to see that Scanlon ran for 270 but CM only had 14 pts. in regulation. Did CM turn the ball over then? What halted drives?

[fbdad45]

Kenton folks are awfully confident after putting up 60 plus on a mediocre Carlisle team and poor Massie went OT against Taft who played with much larger Div teams most of season. Just remember...3 things happen when you pass, 2 are bad.

You too need to look at the above thread. Kenton played 2 DII, 3DIII, 4DIV, and 1 DV (Coldwater). Get you facts straight and your posts will mean more to those of us that read them. Also 3 good things happen when you pass, 2001 state champ DIV, 2002 state champ DIV, 2003 state runner up DIII (all passing by the way!).

[K_H_S_86...]

Kenton folks are awfully confident after putting up 60 plus on a mediocre Carlisle team and poor Massie went OT against Taft who played with much larger Div teams most of season. Just remember...3 things happen when you pass, 2 are bad.

Yea true........ But 61 of them have been awful fun to watch!!;)

[bcubed]

I was shocked to see that Scanlon ran for 270 but CM only had 14 pts. in regulation. Did CM turn the ball over then? What halted drives?

We had two long drives stopped by measurements of inches on fourth down! Taft was a very tough team and played their hearts out for a chance to win, but they will be very formidable next year as their skill players from what I understand are all juniors.

[K_H_S_86...]

We had two long drives stopped by measurements of inches on fourth down! Taft was a very tough team and played their hearts out for a chance to win, but they will be very formidable next year as their skill players from what I understand are all juniors.

It seams like every team BUT KENTON has a chance to get better in the next year :)

Oh yea Maybe Taft was tough? Maybe CM is just not as good as you want em to be?...... Then again maybe Carlisle was good but KENTON was just better?... OH wait thats rite you CM fans said Carlisle was bad.... Now i remember??? errrrrr I think I remember....

[fan88]

Exactly. That was the point he was trying to make. An option QB has more in common with a RB. Questioning Mauks ability to run the option is no different than questioning Richardson's ability to run the spread.

Everyone gets so defensive if a post that includes "Mauk" in it doesn't also include "awesome".

So if Mauk was on Massie's team, would he be starting? EXACTLY.

[phatguy]

Computer stats are just those...computer stats...the human element is what matters most. So you can believe what you want with your computer rankings. I'll go by what I see on field Friday night.

[fbdad45]

Computer stats are just those...computer stats...the human element is what matters most. So you can believe what you want with your computer rankings. I'll go by what I see on field Friday night.

It is what it is. The game is played on the field by high school players and I am not contradicting that fact, but I do think strength of schedule played makes a big difference in preparing a team for the playoffs. I don't expect any CM backers to look at the computer information and say "oh we are beat" but I also don't expect you to feel that you have played better competition. I have been following Kenton and the WBL teams for 30+ years and will stand behind them throughout the playoffs as you should with your team.

[K_H_S_86...]

And yes CM fans I know we play the game on the field!!! Im just sayin...[/QUOTE]

^^^^^^I dont like to quote myself phatguy.....I already said we play the game on the field.... Thanks for agreeing with me...

[floorguy]

Nobody said say sorry to me. Pay attention to what is said. 21 points will not do this week, your going to need closer to 42. and compared to what you did in your cupcake schedule, taft did shut you down. For the second week in a row you will not be the more talented team on the field. also try giving scanlon the ball 44 times in this game like last week, i dont think he will hold up. Jeffers Hinkle Handel and Fackler are ready to crush somebody, i know first hand.

You can have any opinion you want about the Taft game.Yea compared to the average win margin they did shut us down some,but we still got enough to win.You can keep talking about we play in a cupcake schedule,for the second week in a row we wont be the most talented team on the field,also try giving scanlon the ball 44 times in this game like last week,you don't think he will hold up. Jeffers Hinkle Handel and Fackler are ready to crush somebody.First I will say Taft is a lot better team than a lot of people realize,they played their hearts out.Also I think the game with Taft was a good wake up call for the boys.They will be more focused this week and ready to play.As for not being the most talented team on the field I could argue that but this is high school football you don't have to be the most talented team on the field to win,just the one who executes their game plan better.As far as Jordy getting the ball I don't have a doubt in my mind if he gets the ball 50 times he can handle it.He is a work horse.I'm sure Jeffers, Hinkle ,Handel and Fackler will be ready to crush somebody.Just like the whole Massie team will be ready to crush somebody.If you want to think Kenton is going to crush Massie thats your right.But I think it is going to be a good game.Go Massie!!

[kwdtn89]

you take exception? What do you think we've had to listen to for two years now? "Mauks the greatest, Kenton will beat you by 30, you haven't seen anything like Kenton, weak schedule". It's been run in the ground. The same things were said last year and look at what happened then. I think we'll show up at Welcome and give it a shot anyway. You never know, maybe we'll get "lucky" and cause 5 turnovers again.

What have we heard from you Massie fans. Oh lets see..Scanlon will run wild on your defense..you can't stop our running game. Gunner will knock your head off.

Some of you Massie fans have been the first ones on this thread to talk smack. I was one of the first to say that Massie is the team to beat in this region and I know Massie has a great team. Then Massie fans get on here and say things like Kentons has not seen what Massie will bring or that Gunner is going to take the head off of Mauk.

Massie fans can't seem to grasp the fact that Kenton could be just as good if not better than Massie. All I hear is how weak our defense is, Maty is not tough, our coach is has no morals.

I have not seen one post from a Massie fan that has said Kenton is a very good team and It will take a total team effort to beat them. I do however think that you guys seem to think because you beat Kenton last year that that means you will beat them again and that we have no chance in this game.

I'm sorry but I don't think that Taft was better than Kenton. Once again that is only my opinion and I'm sure all the Massie faithful will jump on me for saying that.

[K_H_S_86...]

you don't have to be the most talented team on the field to win,just the one who executes their game plan better

How true this statement was... That is exactly why massie won last year!!!

BUTT.................. This is 2010 KENTON will come ready to win with the best team and game plan too win!!!

[kwdtn89]

you take exception? What do you think we've had to listen to for two years now? "Mauks the greatest, Kenton will beat you by 30, you haven't seen anything like Kenton, weak schedule". It's been run in the ground. The same things were said last year and look at what happened then. I think we'll show up at Welcome and give it a shot anyway. You never know, maybe we'll get "lucky" and cause 5 turnovers again.

If you turn the ball over 5 times in a game and only loose by 8 points I would say that is a good team you played. You get 5 TO's in a game you should at least win by a couple of TD's not 1!!!!!

[kwdtn89]

So if Mauk was on Massie's team, would he be starting? EXACTLY.

You bet he would be a starter!

[pdoubleop]

of course Mauk would be a starter on any team in Ohio.
kwdtn, please find specific examples of what you claim above of Massie posters saying those things.

[kwdtn89]

You know I think we all need to stop this smack talking and calm down. That includes me and all the Kenton and Massie posters. Let's just agree that we all disagree with who is going to win and let the 2 teams battle it out on the field this Friday. However I will say that both Kenton and Massie fans have been getting all worked up in the hype of this game.

Both teams have athletes, both have great coaches, both teams had a great year. Like JJ said...calm down this is supposed to be about the football game.

[bcubed]

You know I think we all need to stop this smack talking and calm down. That includes me and all the Kenton and Massie posters. Let's just agree that we all disagree with who is going to win and let the 2 teams battle it out on the field this Friday. However I will say that both Kenton and Massie fans have been getting all worked up in the hype of this game.

Both teams have athletes, both have great coaches, both teams had a great year. Like JJ said...calm down this is supposed to be about the football game.

Nice post! My sentiments exactly!

[snoopdog3]

You wont hear kenton is a good team after the game either. but deep down they will know, as they probably do right now.

[phatguy]

You know I think we all need to stop this smack talking and calm down. That includes me and all the Kenton and Massie posters. Let's just agree that we all disagree with who is going to win and let the 2 teams battle it out on the field this Friday. However I will say that both Kenton and Massie fans have been getting all worked up in the hype of this game.

Both teams have athletes, both have great coaches, both teams had a great year. Like JJ said...calm down this is supposed to be about the football game.

I agree

[phatguy]

You wont hear kenton is a good team after the game either. but deep down they will know, as they probably do right now.

Got nothing but respect for Kenton....I think Kenton is alot better than "good" also. No one has ever doubted Kentons ability or talent.

[wiz]

If you didn't know anything about either team & came on this thread to learn about them (and for some reason put faith in what you're reading?!?), you would think these are two of the more over-rated teams in D4 from all the negative things being written. But, that's what fear of the unknown has done to us MEN since the beginning of our existence (have yet to meet many women whom get worked up about Las Vegas odds, college football recruiting, fantasy football drafts, etc). If Don King is still promoting the big boxing matches, he doesn't need to worry about any of you taking his job.

[pdoubleop]

I will flat out admit that I'm worked up about this game because I know how good Kenton is.

[kwdtn89]

This has got to be one of the most anticipated match up's in the state of Ohio this week. Actually this region has the 2 most anticipated match up's in the state!!!:D

[kwdtn89]

I will flat out admit that I'm worked up about this game because I know how good Kenton is.

Same here my friend. I think it is called fear of the unknown. This is a very huge game for both teams and the fans of both teams fear the other team and how good they are. Could you imagine if they combined these 2 teams into one how dominate they would be.

[bcubed]

kwdtn89 why can't more Kenton posters be respectful like you instead of like K_H_S_86 and snoopdog3. We Massie fans know how good Kenton is and Know this will be the toughest game of the season so far for both teams but hate being told constantly that our team is somehow beneath Kenton and have no business even being on the same field. I can't wait to listen to this game as I will be working friday night and wishing I could be their. If Kenton wins I will bet most if not all of the Massie faithful will come back on this thread and congratulate them for the win, I know I will but expect the same courtesy ffrom others.

[thebluegoose]

This one's crossed the 300 post mark...and almost 200 votes in the poll...there are precincts in Hardin Co. that don't have that many voters during elections...gotta love it! Friday, GET HERE ALREADY!!!

GO CATS!!!

[CMxFALCONS]

wow, I am unable to get on for a few hours and 3-4 pages are added to the thread haha. I cannot wait until Friday!!! I hear the train acomin', it's rollin round the bend...

[kwdtn89]

kwdtn89 why can't more Kenton posters be respectful like you instead of like K_H_S_86 and snoopdog3. We Massie fans know how good Kenton is and Know this will be the toughest game of the season so far for both teams but hate being told constantly that our team is somehow beneath Kenton and have no business even being on the same field. I can't wait to listen to this game as I will be working friday night and wishing I could be their. If Kenton wins I will bet most if not all of the Massie faithful will come back on this thread and congratulate them for the win, I know I will but expect the same courtesy ffrom others.

Some people just like to stir the pot bcubed. It's to bad that you are going to miss this game. listening to it on the radio just isn't the same. There have been other posters that have stirred the pot too but they are not from Massie except 1 and I will not mention any names because they know who they are. I have a lot of respect for your team and fans. This is going to be a very big game. Wouldn't be great is someone like Keith Jackson called this game..lol

[kwdtn89]

I will flat out admit that I'm worked up about this game because I know how good Kenton is.

We all know how good each others team is and we all know come Friday night it's win or go home. :(

[HardinCofan]

To 86 and snoop dog...do you guys even live in Kenton anymore? I realize you are probably grads and maybe played football but would you please quit making us all look bad?
I wish both teams the best of luck and an injury free night..but,I must say.....
WATCH OUT FOR KENTONas Ram1 used to say!!!!

[JJ]

..but,I must say.....
WATCH OUT FOR KENTONas JJ used to say!!!!

Ram1 used to say that, not me. I am a Watterson Eagles fan.

[climbers93]

actaully, Watch out for Kenton is not JJ's to claim. Ram1 started that back in 2001. On another note. Remember when Archbold and LickingValley was going to run the ball down kenton throat. They had some very big boys. I recall LV having one of the top rbs in the state that year. They got shut down. I know that was then and this is now, but remember the magic didnt start untill benny was jr.

[LEalumnus]

What a game this will be. Emotions will run high. Could be some key personal fouls between these two.

[LEalumnus]

Imagine what the seniors are thinking right now in the classroom this morning. Last week they probably thought it wouldn't be the last HS game of their lives. This week they're thinking it could be. Those young men are gonna bring it and I'm gonna be there to watch it.....and I won't have stumble, climb, and crowd surf my way out of the stands to get a popcorn!

[kftball45]

Dayton Welcome Stadium will be at full capacity Friday night. There will be people standing. That is the magnitude of this one. Many people like to see the Kenton Air Show and many others like to see the power running of CM. Then there are the people that just want to see a state championship game without having to travel to Massilon or Canton. Peole like "great" football and that is what this game brings to the table.

[whs1991]

Good luck to both teams.....I would guess that the Alter Knights await the winner.....

[pdoubleop]

Welcom seats 11,000...right? That's a lot of people for a D4 game. It's not unrealistic that we would fill it though. How many fans would you guess Kenton would bring. It's a pretty long drive for the Wildcats, much closer for Massie.

[kwdtn89]

Welcom seats 11,000...right? That's a lot of people for a D4 game. It's not unrealistic that we would fill it though. How many fans would you guess Kenton would bring. It's a pretty long drive for the Wildcats, much closer for Massie.

I would guess somewhere between 2 to 4 thousand.

[jafanmom]

Whs1991, Your just like some others, just forget about Alder??? We will see!!

Good luck to these teams and I'm sure Alder would be proud to play either one of them:)

I wish this was on an opposite night than ours, I would really like to see it!

[tobadslag]

I can understand why some people would think since Taft's quarterback threw for over 250 yards, Maty Mauk will throw for more. What those same people seem to not realize though is that Massie was not just defending a 1 dimensional offense like they will be against Kenton on Friday night. Massie had to defend the run and pass against Taft so IMO it should be easier to defend a team that only does one thing which in this case is pass the ball. If Massie can sustain long scoring drives, limit mistakes, keep mauk off of the field, and force a couple of turnovers I like their chances with the score being something like 35-22.

[MASSIE]

I am sure the Alter coaches are smarter than that.If not, I would love to be in their locker room at half time.

[beentherebefore]

IF Kenton gets a quick start I could see them forcing Massie into situations they are not accustom to & pulling away. IF however MAssie can force Kenton into turnovers like last year I think this will be a barnburner !

[kwdtn89]

Tobadslag have you ever seen Kenton play? You really think it will be easier to defend. Please explain how you would defend Kenton? If no one is open Maty runs the ball and they do call QB draw plays. Maty is the QB and RB in Kenton's offensive scheme. Maty also has 781 yards rushing this year for and average of 5.87 per carry.

Just something for a defense to think about.

[Landlord]

Is it Friday yet? I am ready for this game!

[cm_backer]

89..I would guess that McSurley and Co are aware of Muak's running ability.

The key is pressure and everything else will take care of itself. If we do not pressure him it will be a long night for the Falcons. Get pressure and you can create mistakes, which we need to take advantage of.

[coachbhs01]

Bringing pressure requires man coverage. .....red 7.....hot route!

[HardinCofan]

Sorry JJ I knew better!!

[kwdtn89]

89..I would guess that McSurley and Co are aware of Muak's running ability.

The key is pressure and everything else will take care of itself. If we do not pressure him it will be a long night for the Falcons. Get pressure and you can create mistakes, which we need to take advantage of.

I'm sure that McSurley is well aware! I was just asking if tobad was aware of what Kenton runs.

[fbdad45]

I can understand why some people would think since Taft's quarterback threw for over 250 yards, Maty Mauk will throw for more. What those same people seem to not realize though is that Massie was not just defending a 1 dimensional offense like they will be against Kenton on Friday night. Massie had to defend the run and pass against Taft so IMO it should be easier to defend a team that only does one thing which in this case is pass the ball. If Massie can sustain long scoring drives, limit mistakes, keep mauk off of the field, and force a couple of turnovers I like their chances with the score being something like 35-22. You are so right, Kenton is a lot easier to defend since they are so one dimensional. They don't have a running back, just receivers. All you only have to account for 5 receivers and 1 QB, nothin' to it.:)

[cm_backer]

Fbdad..as a Massie fan, I wish it was that easy.

[fbdad45]

CM...My comment was made with tongue in cheek, I was not serious. Kenton's results from being "one dimensional" speak for themselves, I was just trying to enlighten tobadslag.

[tobadslag]

yes I have seen Kenton play. I was not saying it would be easier to defend Kenton as a whole, what I am saying is Massie has to worry about the pass and only the pass. Against Taft they had to worry about them running and passing, therefore they couldn't just put 8 in the box or drop 7 or 8 into coverage. I think we can all agree that if Massie forces Maty to run they are stopping the main threat which is Maty passing the ball.

[cm_backer]

Fbdad..I was on the same page as you, knew tongue was firmly planted in cheek.

[pdoubleop]

The major difference between the two offenses is that if Massie has a successful offensive play, it may result in a 4-10 yard gain. If Kenton has a successful offensive play, it may result in a 8-40 yard gain. I'm assuming no major missed tackles and a few other things but that's how I see it. That sounds really lopsided but what evens it out is that it's typically alot easier to achieve a successful play in Massie's offense. Both teams average about 10 yards per attempt which brings us right back to even.

I guess that about sums it up.

[K_H_S_86...]

KHS Mauk receives player of the week honors......Wharton, N.J.....Kenton High School quarterback Maty Mauk was named the U.S. Army All-American Bowl Player of the Week for the week ending Nov. 6 after his performance in a 62-20 Division IV playoff win over Carlsile High School...
Mauk completed 24-of-46 passes for 586 yards and 7 TD's... He also ran 15 times for 51 yards and 1 TD in the game...
On the season, Mauk has completed 317 of his 482 attempts for 4,895 yards and 61 TD's
The U.S. Army ALL-American Bowl Player of the Week was designed to recognize the nation's top high school performance of the week...

This article ran in the KENTON TIMES Newspaper on 11-9-2010....

Thought id share it with all the football fans on here...

[ryebread]

I'd like to congratulate both sides of the this battle. I haven't been on this thread for a couple of days just because I got tired of reading the same bickering crap from both teams fans. It's good to see we can all get along and admit that both of these teams are darn good and it's going to be a heck of a game. Back to football. Massie fans, I know you have alot of starters back this season, but what positions did you lose to graduation last year?

[bcubed]

I'd like to congratulate both sides of the this battle. I haven't been on this thread for a couple of days just because I got tired of reading the same bickering crap from both teams fans. It's good to see we can all get along and admit that both of these teams are darn good and it's going to be a heck of a game. Back to football. Massie fans, I know you have alot of starters back this season, but what positions did you lose to graduation last year?

I think only a DT of any real significance and they have just plugged in another and kept on moving. We have 17 starters back from last years team.

[phatguy]

Of the 5 recievers in Kentons O, how many are underclassmen? Will Maty have much to throw to next year? What about their O-line? I know Massie is gonna have to replace entire starting backfield next year. They will have 3 starters on O-line returning. Also will have several spots to fill on D as well. I'm pretty confident in the talent of the underclassmen coming up....just won't be as experienced as last couple years. I will say this, Kenton fans are lucky to get to experience a talent like Mauk. Kids like this only come around probably once in a lifetime. Not only that, y'all got another year after this to look forward to.

[ryebread]

Kenton's top 3 receivers (Morrison, Howell, and Tillman) are all seniors. We have some very good underclassmen at the receiver position that have seen alot of time this year. Brice Fackler who mainly plays defense this year will probably play both ways next year. I think 3 of our 5 O-linemen are seniors, but I'm not sure.

[gym_coach]

Bringing pressure requires man coverage. .....red 7.....hot route!

Coach BHS, LOL!

Got my tickets for me and the family, will be the best $28 bucks spent this week!! Two more days!!!

[MACster]

KHS Mauk receives player of the week honors......Wharton, N.J.....Kenton High School quarterback Maty Mauk was named the U.S. Army All-American Bowl Player of the Week for the week ending Nov. 6 after his performance in a 62-20 Division IV playoff win over Carlsile High School...
Mauk completed 24-of-46 passes for 586 yards and 7 TD's... He also ran 15 times for 51 yards and 1 TD in the game...
On the season, Mauk has completed 317 of his 482 attempts for 4,895 yards and 61 TD's
The U.S. Army ALL-American Bowl Player of the Week was designed to recognize the nation's top high school performance of the week...

This article ran in the KENTON TIMES Newspaper on 11-9-2010....

Thought id share it with all the football fans on here...

That's pretty cool. Coldwater was Scout.com's National Team of the Week in 2007 after they beat Mooney, National awards are something to be extremely proud of. Congrats to Maty.

Massie fans, how is the Coffman girl doing?

[carrington]

She will be leading cheers at the game Friday night. Senior Cheerleader. Doing great :)

[90wreck]

She will be leading cheers at the game Friday night. Senior Cheerleader. Doing great :)
This thread is briniging everybody out of the woodwork.
Cats by 2TD's .
:D

[MACster]

She will be leading cheers at the game Friday night. Senior Cheerleader. Doing great :)

That's wonderful to hear, thanks for the update.

[broodley]

Uhhh, I agree with everbody.

Harry Cary would say...it might be, it could be, IT IS!!!! CATS WIN !!! Holy Cow

[coke72]

Too many pages to read through the thread.

This should be a Dandy. The Massie running game vs. the Kenton aeiral show.

Will watch it with interest.

Saw a few great Kenton vs. Coldwater match ups in the past. Coach Mauk has the big game experience and the young Mauk is lighting it up.

The Massie squad proved it's mettle earlier in the year against a solid Johnathan Alder squad.

tough one to call. Could go either way. Good Luck to both schools. Safe travels to the fans.

[Celinafan]

This is going to calm down now. Let's keep this on the game. :mad:

:confused: :eek: :D

[ex_dc_atc]

I'm going to go ahead and make my final prediction for this game. I'll say:

Kenton 42
Clinton Massie 28

I truly feel like this game could go either way but I do think the winner will need to score at least 30+ points. The team that establishes it's tempo should win this football game. If it's uptempo Kenton prevails, if it's slow tempo CM prevails. My guess is that Kenton has improved enough from last season and will not turn the ball over 5 times like in 2009. I think the Wildcats win a state championship quality football game. Good luck to both teams.

[MASSIE]

Most seem to be using last weeks games in thier decison to pick Kenton. If Massie would have drawn Waynesville or Carisle and beat them up,lets say 59-7, would your opinion have changed? If Kenton would have had a QB distraction all last week and then faced a school with more team speed than any other d4 team in the state,and struggled,would that have mattered?

[OriginalFalcon]

I only want to know one thing from all of you Kenton Fans........Do you like trains?

[pdoubleop]

I just saw on another forum that Massie held Mauk to -26 yards of rushing last year. That has to put a ton of pressure on him. If we can do the same this year, it'll help our odds a bunch.

[Wild Bob Buck]

Most seem to be using last weeks games in thier decison to pick Kenton. If Massie would have drawn Waynesville or Carisle and beat them up,lets say 59-7, would your opinion have changed? If Kenton would have had a QB distraction all last week and then faced a school with more team speed than any other d4 team in the state,and struggled,would that have mattered?

You could deal with "What If's" for anything so that's a difficult argument to make, all people can count on are the facts so that's what we have to go on.

[pdoubleop]

Do you have any factual information that tells us that Carlisle is a better team than Taft?

[snoopdog3]

I dont like trains, i do like AIR planes tho. hehe
Could this game be the most attended game in ohio this weekend? I know the st x and colerain game will be packed also.

[LondonPride01]

I only want to know one thing from all of you Kenton Fans........Do you like trains?

haha there it is... I'm surprised it took this long.

[snoopdog3]

lol

[plohrber]

I got off work going to kenton / massie game . Hope they play well go cats

[kwdtn89]

I dont like trains, i do like AIR planes tho. hehe
Could this game be the most attended game in ohio this weekend? I know the st x and colerain game will be packed also.

Airplanes are faster than trains...! :D

[cm_backer]

Trains are harder to stop.

[kwdtn89]

Most seem to be using last weeks games in thier decison to pick Kenton. If Massie would have drawn Waynesville or Carisle and beat them up,lets say 59-7, would your opinion have changed? If Kenton would have had a QB distraction all last week and then faced a school with more team speed than any other d4 team in the state,and struggled,would that have mattered?

First have you seen every D4 team in the state? That's a pretty bold statement that Taft had more team speed than all the D4 teams in the state.

My prediction of Kenton winning this game is not because of what happened last week. However I do like our chances a little more after seeing what Taft did in that game. Even if you would have killed Taft it might change some opinions and it might not. Massie was really not supposed to have a close game last week and I think the team got caught by surprise.

There was a guy on the huddle this week that posted his opinions of Kenton and Taft's defense. He said that he thought Kenton's defense was better that Taft's.

Both teams know what they are up against this week and it should be a great game. Kenton has to come out of the gate fast and furious to get the tempo in there favor. If Massie comes out and is able to slow down the game and score on there first couple possession's then Kenton could be playing catch up.

[kwdtn89]

Trains are harder to stop.

So are planes but you have to catch them first! :D

[cm_backer]

89..true, how very true. I can only hope they are crop dusters and not jets.

[fan88]

Trains are harder to stop.

Really tough guy? Stand in front of a plane that's about to land, and tell me how well you stopped it.

[cm_backer]

Really tough guy? Stand in front of a plane that's about to land, and tell me how well you stopped it.

How bout you head on back to the 7 Eleven and don't concern your self with matters of physics and other things that are way beyond your mental capacity. You can put your Massie envy on hold until we see Court House at our place in week 7 next year. Now go on, your probably late for your shift.

[MACster]

Only on this thread would there be an argument about what is harder to stop, a plane or a train! :D

Gotta love it, good luck to both!

[pdoubleop]

You guys are running out of things to argue about.

[ryebread]

Only 26 more hours!

[neers32]

This game will come down to how many turnovers Kenton has. I think they will be able to score nearly at will, but turnovers will kill them with Massie's style of play. I don't expect either team to score more than 35, but I don't think either will be held in-check. I would like to see Massie win, but I love the way both teams play.

Kenton 34
Massie 31

[fbdad45]

Do you have any factual information that tells us that Carlisle is a better team than Taft?According to Massey Ratings Taft played the 185th toughest schedule in the state, they were ranked 159 and had a power rating of 156. They played 4 teams in the top 200 rankings and went 1-3 against those teams. Carlisle played a lesser schedule 268 ranked, but had a state ranking of 118 (better than Taft) and their power rating was 132. These are facts based on computer calculations which you may not like, but they are some facts that compare the two teams. I know the game is played by players on the field (before I get that response) but the Massey rating system has been very accurate this year with a better than 75% right. Just stating facts. Would Taft beat Carlisle if they played, no way of knowing for sure but the computer says on average the answer is no but a very close game projected at 20-15.

[K_H_S_86...]

KENTON 46

Massie 24

RAH-RAH-FOR-KENTON

:)

HAVE A HARD HITTING INJURY FREE GAME!!!!


Oh yea and NO KENTON turnovers!!! hehe

[kwdtn89]

You guys are running out of things to argue about.

Oh come on! I'm sure someone will think of something.

[blitzman]

MAUKSPEED Returns !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Rememeber the Lima news football preview from 2002..lololol

[HardinCofan]

Good Luck Cats !!!

[fbdad45]

MAUKSPEED Returns !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Rememeber the Lima news football preview from 2002..lololol
Lima News..Benny and the Jets...I have a framed copy of that picture hanging in my office, those were fun times to watch, hopefully (as a Kenton fan) we can have more.

[rhinoright]

are you sure maty's at full speed the game i saw maty was limping and favoring his left knee. a carlise kid came in late and really hit him hard in the left knee. i hope he's healed up and ready to go.

[K_H_S_86...]

are you sure maty's at full speed the game i saw maty was limping and favoring his left knee. a carlise kid came in late and really hit him hard in the left knee. i hope he's healed up and ready to go.


his LEFT knee fell off yesterday:eek:

[Landlord]

Thank you to all who are serving and who has served our country!!

Finally, Something that we all can agree win.

Looking forward to a great game.

[CMxFALCONS]

Really tough guy? Stand in front of a plane that's about to land, and tell me how well you stopped it.
This coming from someone who got MAULED by the train already this year...

[anon1964]

his LEFT knee fell off yesterday:eek:

yeah, yeah, and I heard the entire CM starting offense all tore their ACL's in practice today. Tragic accident as they were rehearsing running through the cheerleaders' banner. Quite a train wreck from what I heard ;)

Although I do hear that the CM and Kenton trainers are miracle workers. So the CM O and Mauk will all be at full strength by game time.

Good luck to both teams. Stay healthy. And may the better team win to face the AlDer Pioneers in week 13.

[fan88]

How bout you head on back to the 7 Eleven and don't concern your self with matters of physics and other things that are way beyond your mental capacity. You can put your Massie envy on hold until we see Court House at our place in week 7 next year. Now go on, your probably late for your shift.

Whoa don't get bent out of shape buddy, just stating the truth. Your on a sports website on your computer getting offended by someone you don't know and taking it personally. Let that Massie EGO go already. Were tired of it.

[bcubed]

Whoa don't get bent out of shape buddy, just stating the truth. Your on a sports website on your computer getting offended by someone you don't know and taking it personally. Let that Massie EGO go already. Were tired of it.

Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Who is "were" that you are referring to?

[jafanmom]

Anyone willing to text me updates of this game? I can return with updates from Alder/Alter game.

[glade]

Massie 28
Kenton 20

[90wreck]

fan88 you want to talk about Massie ego's,go back and read all the post and see who has bigger ego's.I know it will take you some time to read,so you can give me your answer next week.But then again with your multiple ego's for every team Massie is playing the answer is probably you.
:confused:

[xcat]

GO CATS-Two powerhouses on the field on friday nite what more could you ask for!
Good luck to both teams on a hard fought injury free game!!!!!!!!!!

[cattrain]

Just got home from hanging posters along the route from Kenton to Dayton. So pumped up. No matter what happens, so proud of the Kenton Wildcats. May the best team win, and that team be from Hardin County.

[kwdtn89]

I bet the boys are pumped and ready for this rematch. Hours are counting down now!

[kwdtn89]

The last time I was so excited for a Kenton game was against Huron! Wow now that was a game!

[90wreck]

Just got home from hanging posters along the route from Kenton to Dayton. So pumped up. No matter what happens, so proud of the Kenton Wildcats. May the best team win, and that team be from Hardin County.
So you are Max's or Maty's Mom, you said you weren't.
:confused:
Be proud and state it out loud!!!!!!

[bamgam18]

Gameday!

Go Cats! Beat Massie!

[MACster]

Will this game be streamed online?

[OriginalFalcon]

ALLLLLLLLLLLL ABOOOOOOOOOAARD!! I'd like to welcome back all the Kenton faithful, you have just boarded the Massie Express. Sit down, buckle up your chin straps and your seat belts, its gonna be a long, hard, bumpy ride. CHOOOOOOOOCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHUGGA CHUGGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA CHOOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOO........POUR ON THE COALS BOYS..........CHOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[climbers93]

got a feeling its gonna be a short train ride. Train may get derailed.

[cm_backer]

Mac..it will be webcast on www.ohiolockerroom.com.

[fbdad45]

ALLLLLLLLLLLL ABOOOOOOOOOAARD!! I'd like to welcome back all the Kenton faithful, you have just boarded the Massie Express. Sit down, buckle up your chin straps and your seat belts, its gonna be a long, hard, bumpy ride. CHOOOOOOOOCHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHUGGA CHUGGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA CHOOOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOO........POUR ON THE COALS BOYS..........CHOOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Kinda takes me back to my earlier days when my kids would watch Thomas the tank engine. I really can't imagine an adult typing the above, or least I would hope not. Falcon you do know that trains really don't go CHOO CHOO don't you.;)

[cattrain]

It's game day folks! Hoping for a great game, no injuries, and mature behavior by the fans.

[floorguy]

Kinda takes me back to my earlier days when my kids would watch Thomas the tank engine. I really can't imagine an adult typing the above, or least I would hope not. Falcon you do know that trains really don't go CHOO CHOO don't you.;)

Of course they do fbdad45.And when they are on an up hill battle,they also say I THINK I CAN I THINK I CAN I THINK I CAN CHOO CHOOOOOO!:)

[pdoubleop]

Alright, here we are....GAME DAY!

Everyone is picking Kenton, it looks like Massie gets to be the underdog. Sounds good to me.

This is NOT going to be a productive day of work for me.

FBdad, didn't you ever see Major Payne?

[ex_dc_atc]

Most seem to be using last weeks games in thier decison to pick Kenton. If Massie would have drawn Waynesville or Carisle and beat them up,lets say 59-7, would your opinion have changed? If Kenton would have had a QB distraction all last week and then faced a school with more team speed than any other d4 team in the state,and struggled,would that have mattered?

You can look at the DIV R16 thread and see that I picked Kenton over CM before the playoffs began. So my prediction has zero to do with what happened last week. Just basing this on my opinion of what will happen this season, this week.

[snoopdog3]

you ever see pearl harbor.. revenge is here massie!!! and cm back0r

[HardinCofan]

Just remember the brick wall tumbled last week.....


GO CATS

[kwdtn89]

I don't think I will get anything done at work today either. Oh wait I took this afternoon off so I can enjoy this great weather today. Its almost time for the rematch...can't wait! This has been a long week and now the wait is over. Go Cat's we got our rematch now go out and win this ball game.

[fb_linejudge]

Trains are harder to stop.


There is a history of folks around Kenton being able to stop out of control "Trains". The new movie Unstoppable is based off of the runaway train that was shut down just outside of Kenton!!!

Good luck to both teams this week.

[gdude1304]

CM 28
Kenton 20

[MASSIE]

Frantz picks Massie

[pdoubleop]

There is a history of folks around Kenton being able to stop out of control "Trains". The new movie Unstoppable is based off of the runaway train that was shut down just outside of Kenton!!!

Good luck to both teams this week.

Too bad...you'll be a long way from Kenton tonight. ;)

[kftball45]

Frantz picks Massie

Ah, he must not know his stuff then...lol.

I think this will be a great game, hoping the Cats can pull away somewhere in the late 3rd or early 4th quarter, really don't want this one to go to the wire.

[pdoubleop]

Would one of you guys mind calling in a bomb threat to my work this afternoon....I gotta get out of here SOON! It's not like I'm getting any work done anyway....

[kftball45]

I know...I'm a bit antsy myself...as the crazy chick says in Happy Gilmore...."get meee...outtta here!"

[snoopdog3]

Is this a perfect day or what.. Zero wind and 70 degrees and a great game to go see. Good luck to everyone, and safe travels.

[doggett85]

Can someone text me updates?? Pm me and I will give you my number thanks a ton.

[OriginalFalcon]

fbdad45,

This train does.....CHOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGGA CHUGGGA CHOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I apologize for your maturity and my lack of. I am sorry you are so grumpy and negative. Geez. I didn't realize that this forum was so serious and that you feel that it needs to be so formal. Sorry. Poophead.

[fbdad45]

Falcon, Ouch that hurts. I think I just lost some of my grey hair. I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers (get it Falcon...feathers) I crack myself up. I was, by the way, trying to be funny, guess I didn't do a good job of that.

[OriginalFalcon]

Good Luck to both teams. Hope all make it to and from the game safely and I can promise you both sides are going to get their money's worth tonight. I can honestly say that I respect the heck out of Kenton's program and community and that If Massie doesn't win it all my second choice will be Kenton.

CM-31
Kenton-30

Massie stops 2pt conversion and wins it with a field goal!

[OriginalFalcon]

I'm with you fbdad. Its all good baby. No problems.

[gunnermania]

`watch for HIM NUFF SAID...................

[pdoubleop]

Good Luck to both teams. Hope all make it to and from the game safely and I can promise you both sides are going to get their money's worth tonight. I can honestly say that I respect the heck out of Kenton's program and community and that If Massie doesn't win it all my second choice will be Kenton.

CM-31
Kenton-30

Massie stops 2pt conversion and wins it with a field goal!

That sounds good except I don't think my heart can take it!

[o.a.b.]

Calpreps Kenton 40 Massie 31. I think they're a little low on this [ by 30 points ] and would cover the over/under.

[MASSIE]

48 minutes isn't enough time to make all that scoring happen.

[gunnermania]

Falcons Are The Winners .hands Down

[jafanmom]

Is'nt this fun!!!!!!

[OSUCat]

I wonder what the average time on scoring drives for each team is? I know one game at Kenton this year the Wildcats scored on their first play from scrimmage, their third play and eighth play. It slowed down a little from there but most of their drives are few plays.

In saying that, if CM can keep everything in front of them and make Kenton throw short stuff and sustain drives with many plays then they might keep the offense of Kenton from as many points as usual.

I still think Ktown gets the win if the defense shows up like it has recently.

[fbdad45]

48 minutes isn't enough time to make all that scoring happen.Kentons scoring drives on average are less than 3 minutes, in fact most this year would be under 2 minutes. Seven scores...2 minutes per...14 minutes total to reach 42 plus extra points. That leaves 34 minutes left over. Kenton has score 35 points + in multiple quarters this year, but I can't speak for Massie other than it looks like they score at will also.

[o.a.b.]

Mauk's ability to scramble and break off a big run has vastly improved from last year ,could be a big factor.That had a big bearing in the Kenton-Coldwater game

[cattrain]

5 1/2 hours till kickoff. The buses just left Kenton. The boys look serious and focused. We were cheering them on as they pulled out of town. Oh, I really hope Kenton wins. Talked to Tillman, Morrison, Mauk and Miller. These kids are ready for a game.

[pdoubleop]

Does Kenton have older buses? Are they prone to breaking down?


:D

[kftball45]

I dont' think they made it out of town and Kenton ran out of buses and all of the families cars broke down, I guess the boys won't make it down....

[MASSIE]

Massie will burn at least 32 seconds per play,10 seconds to run the play,22 seconds after the ball is marked for play.80 yard scoring drives / 6 yards per play x 32 =426/60=7.11min.5 scoring drives x 7.11 =36 min. If Kenton scores 7 they give the ball to Massie 7 times. Even with a 3 and out both times, thats 4 more.

[pdoubleop]

I dont' think they made it out of town and Kenton ran out of buses and all of the families cars broke down, I guess the boys won't make it down....

Don't worry, I'm renting a bus now. I'll be up to get the team soon. Just wait right there!

[captain_chaos]

Good luck to both teams and here's to a safe drive to all people participating in this grand football event! Go Cats!

[floorguy]

Looking forward to a great game tonight. GO MASSIE!

[phatguy]

Bring it home boys!!! Hit hard and play smart.

[thebluegoose]

Here we go boys and girls! Ohio's most talked about game of the year starts in less than 4 hours! Kenton and Clarksville should be Ghost Towns very soon! See you all in Dayton! Go Cats!

[pdoubleop]

You ever been to Clarksville???? It's already a ghost town.

[BHS90]

183 posts already? Any chance this game is on TV this week?
In NW Ohio the game's on WLTW Channel 44 at 11 PM

[KentonGrad76]

Heading out to the game now from Kenton. Best of luck to both teams.
Go Cats!!!!!!!!

[LondonPride01]

Good luck Massie!

CM 35
Kenton 30

[bcubed]

Hit em hard boys! Good luck to both teams and whoever wins may they be injury free and go on to win the state!

Massie 35
Kenton 28

[scol1980]

You ever been to Clarksville???? It's already a ghost town.

I have, many times and your right!
GO FALCONS!

[gunnermania]

If Clinton massie goes turnover free.............turn out the lights .........the parties over............massie 31 kenton 21

[LondonPride01]

16-7 Kenton at the half.

Good thing Kenton fumbled on their 1st drive on their own 14 or this game would be over already!

[wj119in79]

my sophomore tackle at W Jeff will shut down kenton in the 2 nd half..make me proud Danny Mc..from a big fan from WJ...your slotback and 119 teammate in 79'''..

[pdoubleop]

holding every offensive play for Kenton...gimme a break

[rglenn]

Alter over JA 28-14. Good game for the Knights.

[pdoubleop]

nevermind that...good game Kenton

[fb_linejudge]

Great game by both teams!!! Way to go Cats. The defense came up big tonight.

[cm_backer]

Kenton wins 36-28. Nice job both teams. Mauk and co are as good as advertised.

[LondonPride01]

Wow I didn't see this coming! First off congrats to Kenton on a great game and the better team definitely won tonight.

[Landlord]

thanks, Great game both teams! As good as expected.

[gdude1304]

Good luck Kenton! Great game...too bad Massie couldn't win...Go win a state title Kenton...

[climbers93]

bring on the alter knights

[bcubed]

Great game both teams! Hate to see Scanlon cough that one up might have given them a chance! Hold your heads up Massie seniors you finished up a very good 4 years with a record of 44-5 and getting to two region championship games! Congrats Kenton now go win it all!

[judge_smales]

State campionship next week for DIV. No disrespect to all other teams in DIV but the two best are playing next week. I can't wait....I will be there.....good luck to both....If Massie would have won tonight I would have made the exact statement.....

[ts21]

16-7 Kenton at the half.

Good thing Kenton fumbled on their 1st drive on their own 14 or this game would be over already!

Good thing a high school ref thought he was an NFL ref and called helmet to helmet penalty or kenton might have went scoreless the first half

[broodley]

Kenton believes like Ricky Bobby does...if you aint first, you're last. Way to go cats. Well played game by both teams. Scanlon is surely all that I read about all week long. I wonder...is Kenton really that good? You bet your sweet ascot. Bring on the Knights. You're the next contestant to the experience the Wildcat air show.

[fb_linejudge]

Good thing a high school ref thought he was an NFL ref and called helmet to helmet penalty or kenton might have went scoreless the first half

High School or not, it was the right call and should have been called.

[44golfer]

i will start out saying good job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kenton, as i stated earlier on here, i dont have a dog in this race. but Pdouble i was about to bust your chops until you rescinded on the refereeing but since you changed your mind i am glad because as far as i am concerned the only bad call was the helmet to helmet call. as far as the holding when you are rushing 3 against a qb like mauk he is going to make you think their is holding because you cant catch him....... hey i think mcsurely does an outstanding job but until he learns to mix it up alittle bit in the playoffs they aint going to get out of the toughest region in d4. no blitzing no hurry up offense no passing.it has been fun watching calhoun and co. for 4 yrs. also good luck kenton next week BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like i said earlier the state championship goes through kettering alter SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[phatguy]

No excuses...Good luck to Kenton...Hope you guys go all the way. Massie seniors: I've truly enjoyed watching you guys the last 4 yrs. Thanks.

[LEalumnus]

Great game can't wait for the next one. I wonder where it will be held?

[Wild Bob Buck]

What a great game and game experience in Dayton was great. It is amazing how opposite each offense is. Massie did a great job of controlling the ball, but in the end that is what hurt them. Massie's inability to score quickly really put them behind the game all night. Looking forward to the game next week. I remember the last time Kenton played the "too big and too fast" Alter Knights, hopefully its a similar result.

[glade]

coach: I promised you a complement if Kenton scored over 30 points and won. Great job!! You made it. Way to go Kenton. The boys from JA had their chances tonight, but didn't get it done. Kettering plays a lot like Massie, but they run between the tackles. We didn't tackle real well tonight. Alter has decent speed on defense, but I think Kenton will matchup just fine. Good luck next week.

[OriginalFalcon]

Whether you have the integrity to admit it or not, the borderline "helmet to helmet" penalty on 4th down was a major factor in the outcome of this game. I realize I will be torn apart for "being a sore loser" and " not giving Kenton credit" but I guaruntee if the scenario would have been flip-flopped many from Kenton would be saying the same thing. I cannot say it would have been the difference because we will never know. Good Luck to Kenton and make all of us in Region 16 proud.

[xcat]

Way to go Cats!!!!!!!!!
Congrats to Massie on a great season!!!!!!!!!

[dbarnian]

Were do you kenton fans think the regional final will be at??

[LEalumnus]

I think the extra yard Massie got on the spot of the ball on 4th down made up for the helmet to helmet. It was helmet to helmet by the way.

[xcat]

Well its supposed to be at a neutral site somewhere between the two schools so ill say Troy or Piqua.lol Kenton will travel the farthest.

[HardinCofan]

Congrats to both teams on a very well played game...
I must say that Massie you are a great bunch...Thanks for the wishes to our Cats to go all the way...
You are a class act !!!

[K_H_S_86...]

Rah-rah-for-kenton

:) :) :) :)

Awesome Game By Both

[cm_backer]

From my standpoint, there were two pivotal plays that didn't go Massie's way. 1. The late personal foul helmet to helmet call on 4th down. Whether it was the right call or not, I have never seen it called in a high school game. Massie was up 7-0 at the time and had just finished an 8:10 drive. If we get the ball there, on the 13, we probably march down the field and score, in another 8 minute drive. Instead Kenton has it 1st and goal scores and converts on PAT, down 8-7 instead of up 14-0 leaving only a couple of minutes to go in 2nd quarter. Even if Kenton has a quick strike, were still up 14-8 at half, instead of down 16-7. 2. The other was the fumble at mid-field down 24-20 with about 10 min to play. We had a little Mo at that time and had been moving the ball well. If we take it in and score, we are up 27-24 and would probably have time to mount another drive if Kenton would have scored. But it didn't happen that way, and I was on a rollercoaster emotionally all night. It truly was a great game to watch. And I have enjoyed watching the seniors in this class represent our school and community well. They will be missed next year. Guys thank you for a great ride.

[retta2012]

Hat's off to the CATS... you are an awesome show and good luck next week. I agree with you 44, the only bad call was the helmet to helmet, the defense had the same right to go get the ball. Would have been Massie ball.
We'll see you next year. I want to see you guys on Dec. 3 so keep that Airplane flyn!

[cattrain]

Congrats to Clinton Massie on a great year and to your fans who showed nothing but class tonight. It was refreshing after the Carlisle game. You guys have a great team and it broke my heart to see you players, seniors I assume, breaking down after your loss. Hold your heads high. YOu had a great year.

To the Kenton Wildcats - SO PROUD OF YOU! GREAT WIN! Now get ready for Kettering Alter. We need to prepare as hard for Alter as we did for Massie. Good job boys!

[K_H_S_86...]

From my standpoint, there were two pivotal plays that didn't go Massie's way. 1. The late personal foul helmet to helmet call on 4th down. Whether it was the right call or not, I have never seen it called in a high school game. Massie was up 7-0 at the time and had just finished an 8:10 drive. If we get the ball there, on the 13, we probably march down the field and score, in another 8 minute drive. Instead Kenton has it 1st and goal scores and converts on PAT, down 8-7 instead of up 14-0 leaving only a couple of minutes to go in 2nd quarter. Even if Kenton has a quick strike, were still up 14-8 at half, instead of down 16-7. 2. The other was the fumble at mid-field down 24-20 with about 10 min to play. We had a little Mo at that time and had been moving the ball well. If we take it in and score, we are up 27-24 and would probably have time to mount another drive if Kenton would have scored. But it didn't happen that way, and I was on a rollercoaster emotionally all night. It truly was a great game to watch. And I have enjoyed watching the seniors in this class represent our school and community well. They will be missed next year. Guys thank you for a great ride.

Not a word about KENTONS 2 TO's or the "spot" they were huge!!... Your post is full of ifs and buts....Clearly the best team won this time....With only 2 turnovers this year by KENTON, CM had little chance to win as we all saw....It was a great game lets leave it at that???

Good year CM you played your hearts out tonite...

[Bandit-22]

Is there anyone that has seen another personal foul helmet to helmet call made in any other game, in any division in high school football this year?

Making that call on a 4th down and 1 play deep in the red zone takes the game away from the players and allows the officials to directly influence the outcome.

Great game by both teams...best of luck to Kenton next week against Alter and to whoever is crowned as the Region 16 champion the rest of the way.

[blitzman]

WoW!!! what a game...

Massie, congrats on your year.. It was fun watchin Schalon(sp?) run, just when you though he was down he got and extra 2-3 yrds.. wow!!!

As for the the Ifs & buts with the helmet to helmet,2 fumbles by Kenton, spot of a ball & onside kick recovery's.. thats part of Football folks.. every game between 2 great teams , with 2 diff. style of offense's, there will be but & if's..so...

Way to go Cats !!!!!!!!!!!!! Beat Alter!!!!!!!!!!!

[snoopdog3]

Yea baby!!!!!!! Kenton offence was not stopped all night long, but we did leave 14 points on the table with the two cough ups.. scanlon gave one back tho, so massie won the turnover battle by one.. Kenton oline did great, kenton recievers where open everywhere all game long. Massie was huge and played very well. what a site and game, great job wildcats ice it up and get ready to roll again next week.

[K_H_S_86...]

WoW!!! what a game...

Massie, congrats on your year.. It was fun watchin Schalon(sp?) run, just when you though he was down he got and extra 2-3 yrds.. wow!!!

As for the the Ifs & buts with the helmet to helmet,2 fumbles by Kenton, spot of a ball & onside kick recovery's.. thats part of Football folks.. every game between 2 great teams , with 2 diff. style of offense's, there will be but & if's..so...

Way to go Cats !!!!!!!!!!!!! Beat Alter!!!!!!!!!!!

^^^^AGREE!!!

[rhinoright]

congrats to the wildcats on a clean well played game. the biggest factor of the contest was the helmet to helmet personal foul that allowed kenton to score and go up by one. from a spectators view point it appeared to be a clean hit and something that would be taught across the nation. the ref that made the call looked to be right out of college. it's really to bad the officals had so much to do w/ the final outcome. goodluck to kenton i'll be rooting for the public boys.

[broodley]

Stop whining about a call that could have been waved off by the other officials that were there. Apparently there is something in the rules that says it's a penalty. The officials just made it up? Also took it upon themselfves to establish a yardage step off? Did you see the CM coach getting his panties in a twist about it? Idk, I wasn't there, but it seems that if a rule doesn't exist, someone would have caught on before the next play was run. Just because you have never seen it, doesn't mean it isn't there. Just my mindless ramblings.

[gym_coach]

Kenton slowed down the massive Massie offense just enough and the Kenton offense moved the ball at will. The first and only punt of the game came at the start of the 4th, so that should tell everyone that wasn't there what kind of game it was. I never thought either team was going to run away with it. It was too bad a team has to lose. Great job Cats!

[climbers93]

Give me a break! You got beat! As an ohsaa official the helmet to helmet was just a call. And yes ive made the same call multiple time this season. Player safty is first. I always think its funny how spectators always have a better look at a play than an official whos ten feet away! As my old coach used to say, stop crying about one call, you have to overcome it.

[Walking Boss]

Drove in from Columbus to watch the game. I saw Kenton at several 7x7's this year and wanted to see how it translated. I was impressed. I was rooting for Massie (I played against them in High School), but was impressed with Kenton. My thoughts:

* Kenton's D was tougher than I thought it would. Granted, they had 9 in the box most of the night, but they played the run a lot better than I thought. It will be interesting to see how they respond if a team has a more balanced attack.

* The hit on the 'helmet to helmet' call was brutal. I can't say whether the call was good or not, but the hit was fierce. I'm not buying the above post that it "changed the game". Granted, the call goes the other way, they don't score. But it was the only time Massie stopped Kenton all night. The other two non-scoring drives were fumbles by Kenton after miving the ball with ease. I think Falcon fans need a little bit of perspective on that.

* I couldn't figure out why/how CM could drop 7 and still leave people wide open all night. Perhaps the strategy was to make Kenton catch a short pass then make them pay and hope to force long drives. It was a curious strategy.

* CM pounded the ball well given what they were facing. I was surprised they didn't open it up with more play action or short passes to the TE.

Anyway, it was an enjoyable game. Good luck to Kenton.

[bcubed]

Give me a break! You got beat! As an ohsaa official the helmet to helmet was just a call. And yes ive made the same call multiple time this season. Player safty is first. I always think its funny how spectators always have a better look at a play than an official whos ten feet away! As my old coach used to say, stop crying about one call, you have to overcome it.

It was interesting though climbers93 that if you listened to the game on the radio on that play and another couple of plays the flag didn't come from the official closest to the play it came from an official not even close to the play. But no sour grapes here, you have to get at least one more stop a game even if that flag isn't thrown and the Falcons couldn't stop the pass consistently all night long.

[Angry John]

Watching Kenton was like watching Hal Mummy style of football on steroids. That is the best high school football offense I have ever seen.

Great team ! Best of luck the rest of the way !

[kftball45]

Falcons couldn't stop the pass consistently all night long.

They really didn't stop them at all. Kenton stopped theirselves a couple of times. I will say Massie stopped them last year though, enough to win. This years offense is just that much improved over last year and I think they have a bit more speed than that too. They really just moved the ball at will last night. Mauk made great decisions and had great runs.

[ex_dc_atc]

I'm going to go ahead and make my final prediction for this game. I'll say:

Kenton 42
Clinton Massie 28

I truly feel like this game could go either way but I do think the winner will need to score at least 30+ points. The team that establishes it's tempo should win this football game. If it's uptempo Kenton prevails, if it's slow tempo CM prevails. My guess is that Kenton has improved enough from last season and will not turn the ball over 5 times like in 2009. I think the Wildcats win a state championship quality football game. Good luck to both teams.

I was pretty close on my prediction and the fact that I thought the winner would need 30+ points. No doubt this was a great game. I was a little surprised on the helmet to helmet hit call, not that it was a good call, I just didn't realize they called that in high school. Kenton's offense was fabulous once again as was Maty. CM had more success on the ground than I anticipated but their defense was overwhelmed in the passing game. Compared to last season, CM had next to no rush on Mauk. Great game by both teams. I feel bad for CM as I would like to see them get a state title one of these years. It seems like they have a bad pattern of running into an unbelievable state championship team. In past year's they've lost to Coldwater and Alter teams that were nearly unbeatable in DIV.

Once again I failed to meet up with my man kwdtn as my phone continues to act up in stadiums. We'll have another week to try to meet up, I wouldn't miss the Alter vs. Kenton game for anything.

[JJ]

http://www.wnewsj.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=187180&TM=31905.75

[Celinafan]

When did the OHSAA adopt NFL rules?

[wiz]

I was extremely disappointed with the traffic situation - traffic backed up nearly a mile southbound on I-75, yet the two cops directing traffic at the bottom of the Edwin Moses off-ramp were ensuring eastbound traffic was all getting through?!? Meanwhile, everyone was turning left to get into the parking lot, yet no cop to stop westbound traffic?!? A lot of people missed most of the 1st quarter. I seem to recall some Coldwater folks having similar complaints for one of their playoff games several years ago.

As for the game, neither team disappointed. I understand the the frustration over the "helmet-to-helmet;" however, regardless of whether you've heard that specific call before, the CM player did hit Morrison high with full force - it was beyond a defender trying to break up a pass, it was someone clearly looking to take advantage of an opportunity cold-cock a defenseless receiver trying to reel in a batted ball. Could've just as easily been called unnecessary roughness. Even if it hadn't been called, I'm not sure it would've been the difference maker - as was noted earlier, Kenton was having no difficulty moving the ball and can score in under 2 mins. IMO, the biggest difference makers for CM were the Scanlon fumble and the illegal procedure on 3rd & 2 in the 4th qtr, which led to the only punt of the game.

[K_H_S_86...]

When did the OHSAA adopt NFL rules?

Why do you ask?

If its not a foul NOBODY would have called it, or it would have been overruled.............simple

Next question??

[wiz]

And did anyone happen to take a photo of Maty taking a knee at the end of the game? If so, please send to Celinafan so he can sleep with it.

[snoopdog3]

I said earlier in the week i can hear the excuses allready and cm backer and Rhinowrong lol and sore loser celinafan and the rest of massie posters came through with flying colors. mauk and co ruled the field, scanlon 18 carry for 68 yards first half, well done wildcat defence!!!

[snoopdog3]

Its been a long time since i've enjoyed a victory this much. Im going to soak it in for a while allong with the rest of kenton and supporters. congrats to the uncomplaining massie fans and team you had a great year.. GO CATS!!!

[floorguy]

They really didn't stop them at all. Kenton stopped theirselves a couple of times. I will say Massie stopped them last year though, enough to win. This years offense is just that much improved over last year and I think they have a bit more speed than that too. They really just moved the ball at will last night. Mauk made great decisions and had great runs.

I would say Massie did stop them on their second drive on 4 and 8,but the helmet to helmet call gave them the first down. I think that was the back breaker for Massie.But when you have a QB like Maty and receivers he has and score in 2 minutes there is not many plays to defend all they need is a little opening and their going to make a defense pay.Hats off to Kenton.

[floorguy]

Again congrats to Kenton.It was a great game last night the only thing that could of made the game better would of been a Massie victory.lol.Good luck the rest of the season.Enjoy watching Maty the rest of the year,and next season a talent like him does not come around very often.(unless there is a younger Mauk)Also I can't overlook his receivers either their some real talent too.Congrats to Massie you had a great season it was fun to watch.Keep your heads up I know it's hard after a tough loss you have nothing to be ashamed of.Seniors you will be greatly missed you guys have been fun to watch the last four years.Be proud you guys have had a great four years with a record of 44-5 and played in two regional championship games.It's been a fun ride.So I want to so thanks for all your hard work and dedication.

[coke72]

Congrats to Kenton on the Victory. Good Luck against Kettering Alter next week. I will be pulling for the Wildcats.

Congrats to Massie on a great season. Hold your heads high.

[ryebread]

When did the OHSAA adopt NFL rules?

Every team has their #1 hater in their league and celinafan is ours. Years ago I used to enjoy reading his posts but now he just comes on to bash us for anything he can think of. You would think that he would cheer for his fellow WBL team, but I've just learned to accept it. As for the call, I've never seen it before in high school football either. Would it have changed the outcome of the game, I don't think so. Massie fans, I've got to agree with a previous post. Why don't they mix the play action pass in some more? The QB didn't have a bad arm at all. I realize that when a team runs as well as Massie does that they don't normally have to pass, but to come from behind with time running out it is a must. Good game Massie, you have a wonderful team and great fans! Hope to see you back again next year.

[coachbhs01]

i didn't like the call either. i am a neutral fan that was sitting on kentons side. when that hit happened the ball was still being bobbled around and the defender has every right to hit him. i thought it was a great hit, and the kenton faithfull that sat around me also thought it was clean. you can say that that play changed the game but who's to say that massie would have even scored. to many what if's!!! great game though. lots of hard hitting.

great job by massie. great program, great kids and fans. class A program. you set a prime example for clinton county. awesome year!!!

[coachbhs01]

good luck to kenton!!!!! drill that private school!!!!!

[cm_backer]

Snoop..please don't call me a sore loser. I was on here and posted as soon as the game was over that Kenton was as good as advertised. My other post was not to make ifs and buts, it was more to point out momentum shifts. Kenton had to feel good about taking the opening kick and moving at will. Massie stripped the ball and got a TO and pounded it down the field for a score. Kenton took the next kick and moved the ball again until it appeared the Massie turned them over on downs. Instead of mo swinging back to Massie, Kenton converted and maintained it through the rest of the half, your D played more inspired after the TD. Massie could of easily done what other teams tend to do when they get behind against Kenton, but the coached didn't panic and maintained our game plan and caught a break with the TO at the end of the 3rd. We had scored on both drives of the half and I believe momentum had swung back to Massie at that point. I thought we were in great shape to burn clock go down and score with would have put us up 27-24 and would have given us enough time to mount another drive if Kenton came back and scored. But the false start put us 3rd and long and Kenton did a good job of jamming the TE off the line on 3rd down. The TE pop pass has been very successful all season and they did a good job defending it. Kenton did what they did all night, as soon as we thought we had a little Mo they did a good job of slamming the door and taking it back.

As for running play action, we did mix it in, used it in the 1st half for a couple of 1st downs, and almost connected for a TD or long again in the 4th. Receiver broke free on a deep post but the ball hung a little bit and the DB did a nice job of closing and breaking up the play, we fumbled a play or two later. And as I said earlier, kenton did a good job of jamming the TE on the line to take away one of our favorite plays.

IMO two of the top 3 teams played each other last night and Kenton made more plays to earn the victory, next weeks game should be week two of the championship series and I am pulling for Kenton. Because I think the winner of that game lifts the trophy in Stark Co. And after what I witnessed last night, the good money is on the Wildcats.

I have much respect for the Kenton program and their fans. Go get em Wildcats.

[OriginalFalcon]

I don't want our comments about the "call" to take way our respect for Kenton. I just hate it that Massie faithful will always wonder how the "call" affected the outcome of the game. I didn't say it would have been an easy game for Massie if that play goes their way, it just opens up the door for the "what ifs" and I would have rather gotten blown out than to lose a game like that and always wonder. Maty and the boys deserved the win and made the plays to win the game, Massie deserved to win the game and did not execute on a few critical plays. I am confident you have a championship caliber offense and your defense just might be good enough to allow you to play "Kenton Football" against anybody in DIV. Represent.

[bamgam18]

Great Game! Both teams left it all on the field! Great Season Massie, hope to see you next year!

I was impressed with Scanlon and Calhoun, those two are studs! You guys have nothing to hang your heads about.

Is Scanlon getting any looks? I would think so......

[K_H_S_86...]

What we all saw Friday nite was in my mind The State ChampionShip Game....
Wow what a game, calls either way didnt affect the game... The players and coaches decided the game...The only way this game could have been better is if it was played in northern OHIO on Dec 4th....