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iknownothing
01-24-2010, 06:42 PM
Any news on how these teams are doing? I know there has been some shifting of teams and divisions. Only 9 teams this year, I think there were 12 last year.

Miami Trace
Hillsboro
McClain
Waverly
Jackson
Unioto
Washington
Chillicothe
Circleville

Records??

mrcville
01-24-2010, 08:30 PM
circleville only has 1 win. they are horrible. no size whatsoever. prob will b one and done, and i m an alum, but this team is bad

Otter40
01-25-2010, 09:12 AM
Hillsboro 10-4

Stumblebum
01-25-2010, 09:56 AM
They took Logan Elm out of this tourney to give Chillicothe an easy pass to the District. But, WCH might be able to give the Cavaliers some opposition, although there will be a huge size difference. Chillicothe starts a 6'5" kid and a 6'8" soph.

And, I don't think Hillsboro is an official 10 - 4, counting three forfeits, are they?

mrcville
01-25-2010, 11:05 AM
where did they move Logan Elm? not fair to make it easier for one school is it?

Otter40
01-25-2010, 07:14 PM
You're right, they are 7-7 officially, but I don't think any coach at the draw will hold the forfeited games against them. If they win out and go into the draw "14-4", beating WCH twice, two D-1 schools in Western Brown and Central Crossing, with losses to Madison Plains twice, Piketon, and Wilmington, they could have a shot at a high seed. Beating WCH twice will help their cause greatly. Should be a great game next Saturday night. I think Chilly and Waverly have 3 or 4 losses apiece, not sure though. The next two weeks will be interesting for teams gunning for the #1 seed.

iknownothing
01-31-2010, 08:08 AM
Actual record anyone???
These are all guesses....
Wavery 11-3
Washington 15-1
Chilly 11-5
McClain 10-5
Unioto 6-8
MT 3-12
Circleville 1-13
Hillsboro 7-8 (although they contest/ appeal forfeited games)
Jackson 7-7

Stumblebum
01-31-2010, 07:05 PM
Washington C.H. may not have the size to compete with Chillicothe. But, they are a nice ball club.

ironman92
01-31-2010, 07:29 PM
Jackson is 6-7

Best win....beat 13-1 Athens 70-44

Worst loss...lost to 3-10 Marietta

tugnut
01-31-2010, 08:19 PM
Greenfield has a nice ball team as well as WCH and Hillsboro it is not all Chilly this year! Greenfield could very easily had at least 3 more wins... 3 loses in OT losing all 3 by a point or 2. I wouldnt count anyone out from the SCOL. It was a very balanced league this year with 4 teams very easily winning the league title. WCH will prolly win it out right but, Greenfield, MP, and Hillsboro could have as well (if the ball would have bounced there way). Not to take anything away from WCH but, all 4 of those teams played real close. Waverly will be a tuff W out of this sectional as well!

How many seeds to the district will be coming out of this sectional this year?

Otter40
02-01-2010, 07:52 AM
Two teams will make it out, rather than four like last year. As things stand now, I look for either Waverly or WCH to get the #1 seed. Chilly will get the three, and Hillsboro and Greenfield will be #4 and #5. Not sure what happens after that.

bucks4ever&ever
02-01-2010, 08:29 AM
The way it should be is:
1. Waverly
2. Wash C.H.
3. Chillicothe
4. Hillsboro

Waverly beat a very good Valley team twice this year and Valley beat Court House.

I suspect all the coaches will stick together in the draw and make sure that Court House gets the one seed- Waverly should be one- but if they get the one I would bet anything Chillicothe slips down to a number 4. I honestly look for the coaches in the same league to stick together and put Waverly and chilly in the same side of the draw so only one can make it out. Waverly and chilly have the best chance to get somewhere but only one will probably get the chance.

tugnut
02-01-2010, 04:48 PM
Not so fast....Waverly is a nice ball team as well as Chillicothe. Let us look at records. Valley may have beaten WCH but, what time of year was that? Plus, what if they played again? Maybe WCH had a bad game that night? Or maybe the match up was better for Waverly over Valley? The bottom line is that If WCH gets the #1 seed then they deserve it. You still have to play basketball. Hillsboro will not get the #4 seed if they do it is a disapointment.

#1 WCH
#2 Waverly
#3 Chillicothe
#4 Greenfield
#5 Hillsboro
#6 Jackson
#7 Unioto
#8 Miami Trace
#9 Circleville

That is the way I see it with these teams but....Hey I have seen goofy things happen.

Hillsboro and Jackson could easily swap places.

Will the #1 seed get a bye week or does #8 and #9 play for the 8 seed.

Otter40
02-01-2010, 07:12 PM
How in the world do you put Greenfield ahead of Hillsboro? Not sure of your logic there. Didn't Hillsboro beat Greenfield twice this season? It doesn't matter anyways, they'll still play each other regardless.

h8rsevrywhr
02-02-2010, 11:38 AM
Hillsboro also beat WCH once and barely lost to them the second time. So saying that WCH is #1 and Hillsboro isnt even #4 is typical Greenfield logic.

Stumblebum
02-02-2010, 02:36 PM
Question - If Hillsboro and Valley both beat WCH, how is WCH 15 - 1? I was never great in math, but that doesn't seem to add up. I saw the Hillsboro WCH game at Hillsboro, so I KNOW about that one.

I agree with Tugnut's list, with the possible exception of his number(s) 4 and 5. I think Hillsboro would have a LOT of trouble beating McClain a third time, but, they DID beat them twice.

There will be a lot of great games in this tournament.

IUFAN22
02-02-2010, 05:40 PM
Regardless of how the seeds turn out, you are going to have to play really good to advance to Athens. Anyone of the top 6 seeds can beat each other on a given night. You have a Bad Night in the Sectional this year, your coming home not a happy camper!!

LionScout
02-02-2010, 09:08 PM
Hillsboro had to forfeit their first game against WCH. That is why WCH has 1 loss, to Lucasville Valley. I'm sure you knew that though.

IUFAN22
02-03-2010, 06:39 AM
I know Court House only has "1" lose on their record, but im sure the Blue Lion Fans havent forgot about the 20 point Butt Whoopin they recieved in Hillsboro.

Stumblebum
02-03-2010, 09:16 AM
If I don't have to work any nights, I'm going to try to see every game in the Southeastern sectional. Should be the best tournament in many years.

Otter40
02-03-2010, 09:48 AM
Waverly plays at Chilly Tuesday, Feb. 16. Should be a good one.

tugnut
02-03-2010, 03:00 PM
How in the world do you put Greenfield ahead of Hillsboro? Not sure of your logic there. Didn't Hillsboro beat Greenfield twice this season? It doesn't matter anyways, they'll still play each other regardless.

It is all due to records. Greenfield beat MP. The refs blew that game with Hillsboro @ Greenfield. How can you put a 8 loss team in front of a 5 loss team? No logic there at all...imo. Greenfield has lost 3 in OT and lost by like no more than 3 points. I think WCH will have loss #2 @ Greenfield. I just think that there were 4 evenly matched teams in the SCOL in WCH, MP, Hillsboro and Greenfield. I really feel that any of those losses outside of the Greenfield @ Hillsboro game (have no idea what Greenfield was doing that game) could have went either way. So, we will see.

Stumblebum
02-03-2010, 04:05 PM
You're right. All four of those teams are so evenly matched that anybody can beat anybody. My guess is, though, that WCH will beat McClain at Greenfield. That will tip the scales in WCHs favor. But, it's a guess. Maybe McClain will beat the Blue Lions.

tugnut
02-03-2010, 06:39 PM
It will be a great game nonetheless. It would be nice to see them lose I would hate to see a Gold basketball from a team that got beat but, over turned due to lack of paper work. Just saying that it could happen and Greenfield is finally playing decent.

Otter40
02-04-2010, 08:28 AM
It is all due to records. Greenfield beat MP. The refs blew that game with Hillsboro @ Greenfield. How can you put a 8 loss team in front of a 5 loss team? No logic there at all...imo. Greenfield has lost 3 in OT and lost by like no more than 3 points. I think WCH will have loss #2 @ Greenfield. I just think that there were 4 evenly matched teams in the SCOL in WCH, MP, Hillsboro and Greenfield. I really feel that any of those losses outside of the Greenfield @ Hillsboro game (have no idea what Greenfield was doing that game) could have went either way. So, we will see.

So you think the coaches at the draw will hold those forfeited games against them? I think you're crazy if you believe that. Doesn't Greenfield have six losses(Goshen, MP, WCH, Boro twice and Lynchburg)?

TopRoe
02-04-2010, 10:24 AM
So you think the coaches at the draw will hold those forfeited games against them? I think you're crazy if you believe that. Doesn't Greenfield have six losses(Goshen, MP, WCH, Boro twice and Lynchburg)?

It is what it is! I know WCH coach will.

Stumblebum
02-04-2010, 11:39 AM
They will go by what each team's OFFICIAL won & lost record is. If Hillsboro's record ends up being 13 - 5 they will not be seeded above a team with a 15 - 3 record. It just won't happen.

Otter40
02-04-2010, 06:56 PM
The appeal won't be until after the tournament draw. Hillsboro will go into the draw with those games still in question. They currently sit at 9-8 OFFICIALLY. According to you Stumble, we are looking at a 6 or 7 seed, depending on records of the other schools right? Hillsboro will be no worse than a 4 seed in my opinion.

Stumblebum
02-05-2010, 08:57 AM
It doesn't really matter. You have to win the games to get out of there, anyway.

IndianGOLD
02-05-2010, 01:16 PM
Chilly will make it out on one side no matter who they have to play. All the other teams better hope to get the other side of the draw to advance

IUFAN22
02-05-2010, 03:53 PM
Chilly will make it out on one side no matter who they have to play. All the other teams better hope to get the other side of the draw to advance

You got that right! I cant see anyone beating Chilly. Their loses arent to teams like Lynchburg. Sorry Greenfield Fans!!

iknownothing
02-05-2010, 07:18 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh gotta love this time of the season. All the experts with their opinions. Thank goodness the little orange, leather still holds all the keys. The draw is a goof anyways anymore. I'd love to see them go back to the good ole days where you seed to chose who you want. Everyone draws a pill and you pick the team you want to play. Plus I would like to see the top 4 seeds get a home game like football. I think it would be a reward for a good season and benefit all the schools involved, bigger gates, less travel and an incentive for a good season by the players. Just play the sectional finals at southeastern. Chilly is not a given by any means. The sectional is loaded from 1 - 5 regardless of who the teams are. Should be fun to watch.
The other sectional looks like it's loaded too. Check out wcho.com then follow the link to local sports stories to get updated records of both sectionals.

iknownothing
02-05-2010, 07:21 PM
Ok so I did it for you.... these were as of the 1st or 2nd of Feb.
Teams schedule to play & current records:
Washington CH 15-1
Waverly 12-3
Chillicothe 9-5
Greenfield McClain 10-6
Jackson 6-7
Hillsboro 9-8
Unioto 7-8
Miami Trace 6-11
Circleville 2-13

At Logan

Dates of games:
Same as Ross Southeastern Sectional List above

Teams schedule to play & current records:
Athens 15-1
Logan Elm 13-2
Sheridan 11-4
Warren Local 11-4
Vinton County 9-4
Fairfield Union 7-7
Gallia Academy 6-8
New Lexington 5-10
Marietta 3-10

Stumblebum
02-05-2010, 07:21 PM
Chilli will make it out, primarily because Logan Elm will not be in the tournament.

ironman92
02-05-2010, 08:14 PM
I think Southeastern is more difficult.

Logan's 14-1 Athens team has played a weak schedule and lost to 6-8 Jackson 70-44.

I expect WCH to try to avoid Hillsboro as should most teams IMO.

I think Jackson could upset any Southeastern team except Chilly....same with Hillsboro.....Jackson could also lose to the lower seeds.

Stumblebum
02-06-2010, 11:03 AM
"Athens team has played a weak schedule and lost to 6-8 Jackson 70-44."

I saw that score and couldn't believe it. I thought Athens must be pretty tough this year. But, 70 - 44? I know Jackson is decent this year, but 70 - 44? Unbelievable.

tugnut
02-06-2010, 04:19 PM
That is one game not to take anything away from Jackson. I dont think Chillicothe will come out of the sectionals....it is just a thought though. I just dont think they are as talented as years past, imo. Hillsboro, WCH, Greenfield or Waverly could beat them, just saying. Chillicothe is not some super power that everybody is scared of...that is for sure!

tugnut
02-06-2010, 04:25 PM
Ok so I did it for you.... these were as of the 1st or 2nd of Feb.
Teams schedule to play & current records:
Washington CH 15-1
Waverly 12-3
Chillicothe 9-5
Greenfield McClain 10-6
Jackson 6-7
Hillsboro 9-8
Unioto 7-8
Miami Trace 6-11
Circleville 2-13

At Logan

Dates of games:
Same as Ross Southeastern Sectional List above

Teams schedule to play & current records:
Athens 15-1
Logan Elm 13-2
Sheridan 11-4
Warren Local 11-4
Vinton County 9-4
Fairfield Union 7-7
Gallia Academy 6-8
New Lexington 5-10
Marietta 3-10

That seems fair in the Southeastern Sectional....LE will be the #1 seed @ logans sectional those 2 loses are from 2 pretty good teams.

IndianGOLD
02-06-2010, 08:01 PM
That is one game not to take anything away from Jackson. I dont think Chillicothe will come out of the sectionals....it is just a thought though. I just dont think they are as talented as years past, imo. Hillsboro, WCH, Greenfield or Waverly could beat them, just saying. Chillicothe is not some super power that everybody is scared of...that is for sure!

I take it you have not seen Chilly play this year. No they are not going to win the state this year, but they will roll to Athens. They have 2 players that no one (execpt maybe waverly) can guard. The center is young and I am sure he is improving every game and the wing player can be lights out like he was in Columbus a couple weeks ago. They play above the rim and the other teams are lucky to touch the rim. I hope Hillsboro goes to Athens but you never know which Hillsboro team will show up on any given night. WCH is soild and if they can get anything out of there big man they may go. If they do not play Chilly.

iknownothing
02-07-2010, 08:58 AM
Athleticsm doesn't = great basketball players. Chilly struggles shooting the ball outside of 10ft. w/ the exception of Ragland. The big kid is mmmmm ok... soft and plays timid. My only question for Chilly is what do you do when you can't run a team out of the gym? They have not beat a team on their schedule this year that is of equal or better talent. Now they will benefit from the quality of opponents they play when they get to the sectional. Waverly is the darkhorse for me... no one really talks about them and they have a lot of size and good guards. They can shoot the 3 and post you up. Solid d too, they'll pack it in and dare you to shoot and then go rebound the ball. Chilly WILL NOT just roll to athens.

Stumblebum
02-07-2010, 03:32 PM
It will be an interesting tournament, that is for sure.

Stumblebum
02-08-2010, 10:35 AM
When is the drawing for this tournament, anyway?

tugnut
02-08-2010, 03:00 PM
I have seen Chilly play...and not that impressed. Sorry but, I really believe Greenfield, Waverly, Hillsboro or WCH could beat Chillicothe. I would even say if Miami Trace plays them they could give Chillicothe a game (that is if MT would show up). MT hung tuff with WCH and beat MP. I dont think this is a slam towards Chillicothe because they could very well beat those teams as well. I am just saying that it wont be a cake walk like you (IndianGold) project. We will see! The big kid did not impress me. He is young and is still learning the game. I dont think size will be a factor with these teams. If you under estimate any of these teams the talent of these "other" teams will prevail. I sat with a Chillicothe scout the other night and he thought that one of those teams mentioned could very well beat them. This was his concern "TEAM" play and outside shooting.

IndianGOLD
02-08-2010, 07:45 PM
I have seen Chilly play...and not that impressed. Sorry but, I really believe Greenfield, Waverly, Hillsboro or WCH could beat Chillicothe. I would even say if Miami Trace plays them they could give Chillicothe a game (that is if MT would show up). MT hung tuff with WCH and beat MP. I dont think this is a slam towards Chillicothe because they could very well beat those teams as well. I am just saying that it wont be a cake walk like you (IndianGold) project. We will see! The big kid did not impress me. He is young and is still learning the game. I dont think size will be a factor with these teams. If you under estimate any of these teams the talent of these "other" teams will prevail. I sat with a Chillicothe scout the other night and he thought that one of those teams mentioned could very well beat them. This was his concern "TEAM" play and outside shooting.

You are really making me wonder about your basketball IQ. Maybe you have a son involved and it clouds your judgement or something. I find it hard to believe that you have seen Chilly play this year and you can really believe that Greenfield or MT would even come close in that match-up. I will give you a pass on WCH and Hills if they get hot from 3pt range it would be a close game. It's alright to believe in Greenfield if your son plays there or you have some close connection to the team. But if not you have to know that they are not a good team this year and they do not have Rick to pull out the close games for them any more. It could be a long dry spell at Mcclain before they win another title.

tugnut
02-08-2010, 07:59 PM
No I have no connection other than living here. Try this years 7th and 8th grade teams they will win Championships. It may be a couple of years or maybe 3. I will say I wouldnt under estimate McClain or MT. We will see!

vanbest
02-08-2010, 09:05 PM
You are really making me wonder about your basketball IQ. Maybe you have a son involved and it clouds your judgement or something. I find it hard to believe that you have seen Chilly play this year and you can really believe that Greenfield or MT would even come close in that match-up. I will give you a pass on WCH and Hills if they get hot from 3pt range it would be a close game. It's alright to believe in Greenfield if your son plays there or you have some close connection to the team. But if not you have to know that they are not a good team this year and they do not have Rick to pull out the close games for them any more. It could be a long dry spell at Mcclain before they win another title.

Lets take away MT. HHS,WCH,or GM could beat them on "any given night". As bad as you want to believe Chili is a shoe in, It is just not so. As for Rick not being there to pull out the close games, Eaton will do just fine. Talent may be down, for people who do not know, but I have an IQ feeling that this team is not done.

ironman92
02-08-2010, 09:49 PM
I don't believe GM can beat Chilly either....Boro, WCH and Waverly on good night could I believe.

As for the 6'8 big guy who is "soft"...he had 2 thunderous dunks over post players to begin the game in Jackson

Stumblebum
02-09-2010, 03:55 AM
I agree with Ironman. McClain will not beat Chilly. It would take a great effort for Hillsboro, WCH or Waverly to beat them. But, God, I hate to have to hear the Chillicothe worshippers beat their chests and crow for the next five years. They don't live in the real world, anyway.

iknownothing
02-09-2010, 08:54 AM
athletes don't = team basketball. the turner kid for chilly shoots way to much. at times ragland doesn't even touch the ball. you play zone, pack it in, shade to ragland and rebound. have an efficient press break, don't crap down your leg and handle their pressure. chilly doesn't have the swag they've had in the past. who are their quality wins??? i also hope the weather holds off and we can see waverly v. chilly on the 16th. it's the tuesday after the sectional draw and i feel this will clear up a lot. again my $$ is on waverly as a dark horse.

tugnut
02-09-2010, 11:37 AM
I could see any of these teams mentioned going to the District finals and then getting beat by LE. I think Chillicothe is to have a new transfer for the Tourneys...LOL...LOL...lol...just kidding! At least when "other" teams won they won with there own talent. Of course kids will transfer from time to time but, man you have to question Chillicothe.

tugnut
02-09-2010, 11:40 AM
I would love to see Grenfield and Chillicothe play for the right to go to Athens. I would say McClain in a close one and then you can see Eaton as the coach he really is. The kids are finally listening to him and if the Offense is on for the Tigers, they would win. We will see!

tugnut
02-09-2010, 11:43 AM
I would love to see Grenfield and Chillicothe play for the right to go to Athens. I would say McClain in a close one and then you can see Eaton as the coach he really is. The kids are finally listening to him and if the Offense is on for the Tigers, they would win. We will see! Either way it will be one of the better tourneys in years!

No team this year is a shoe in!

Stumblebum
02-09-2010, 04:24 PM
"again my $$ is on waverly as a dark horse."

Waverly has potential, no doubt about it. But, Waverly had VanMatre beat by 10 points in the fourth quarter in the sectional last year, and when he put the heat on them, they choked. He won't be on the bench, this year. Maybe Waverly can win a game or two.

vanbest
02-09-2010, 04:38 PM
Lets take away MT. HHS,WCH,or GM could beat them on "any given night". As bad as you want to believe Chili is a shoe in, It is just not so. As for Rick not being there to pull out the close games, Eaton will do just fine. Talent may be down, for people who do not know, but I have an IQ feeling that this team is not done.

Sorry for leaveing Waverly out. They are a bunch of talented, very strong kids.

IUFAN22
02-09-2010, 05:02 PM
I would love to see Grenfield and Chillicothe play for the right to go to Athens. I would say McClain in a close one and then you can see Eaton as the coach he really is. The kids are finally listening to him and if the Offense is on for the Tigers, they would win. We will see!

Eaton?? What has he done?? Just because he sat beside Rick on the Bench does not mean he can coach like him. Why dont we wait till he actually wins something important to call him "the coach he really is".

IndianGOLD
02-09-2010, 05:06 PM
again you are living in the greenfield fantasy world and keep telling yourself eaton will be ok. it may take a year or two to see how big a difference rick made on his teams. sorry but he will never be as good as rick was. not a bad knock on him rick was one of the best all time.

Cactus
02-09-2010, 05:16 PM
Tug-Did LE win with their "own" talent? Maybe Zollo will transfer back to Greenfield for the tourney? Nah, doubt it.

IUFAN22
02-09-2010, 05:24 PM
Tug-Did LE win with their "own" talent? Maybe Zollo will transfer back to Greenfield for the tourney? Nah, doubt it.

I would say Greenfield took his scholarship away like Kentucky did!

vanbest
02-09-2010, 07:02 PM
I would say Greenfield took his scholarship away like Kentucky did!

There was no way Zollo was ever going to play at Kentucky. Maybe they will take Hausermans scholarship away to!

iknownothing
02-09-2010, 08:07 PM
wow... the shots are being fired... could you imagine how unreal mcclain would be if they didn't run off all their talent. the coates kid at hillsboro, zollo in KY and cox in leesburg... three kids 6'4"+ and can all shoot it, rebound it and defend...they'd be stupid good...
give me a break on eaton and mcclain... why compare him to rick...not fair to either one of them... rick was great and eaton will be too... he works hard at what he does and has the respect of the kids... you jokers are really losing it on here... must be cabin fever from all the snow!! and NO im NOT APART of the NATION!!!

tugnut
02-09-2010, 09:34 PM
Yea there would be alot of talent in Greenfield....Cox was from Leesburg and decided to go back when his friend took over the helm, Coats never really excelled in Ricks' system and Zollo well good luck to the kid.

Eaton is a good young coach and I am excited to have him as Greenfields coach. I will say he will win it all in 2-4 years with the young group of kids coming up...wait and see! Then you will say that he is a great coach. i would like to see any one take these kids and get as many wins as Eaton has.

IUFAN22
02-10-2010, 06:47 AM
There was no way Zollo was ever going to play at Kentucky. Maybe they will take Hausermans scholarship away to!

Hauserman!!! Are you serious? You cant be. Someone did tell me he signed to play somewhere for football, but i cant remember where. Im glad he had something to fall back on besides basketball. And the whole Zollo/Kentucky thing was just a joke, and I think thats what Kentucky thought too.

Stumblebum
02-10-2010, 07:07 AM
Tug-Did LE win with their "own" talent? Maybe Zollo will transfer back to Greenfield for the tourney? Nah, doubt it.

That'll be a cold day in July. Mama likes the BIG pond. She thinks he's gonna be a starter for the Wildcats.

Stumblebum
02-10-2010, 07:19 AM
Actually, McClain didn't "run off" Zollo, Cox or Coates. You already know the story on Zolo. Cox was from Leesburg to begin with. He only attended McClain one year. Coates's grandfather is bus mechanic for the Hillsboro schools. He liked it better at Hillsboro. Kids move from school to school a lot more now than they used to. I don't like it, but, that's the way it is.

As for Eaton, he's a nice fellow and a good coach. He's not a VanMatre, but he is a good coach.

iknownothing
02-10-2010, 09:30 AM
Tugnut- when you say "win it all" you do mean the SCOL right?? Not state? If you do mean state, please fill me in on this talent pool. If you are referring to Jr. High, give me a break. You must be a parent. I know McClain has a nice 8th grade team, but it's friggin Jr High!!! So many factors are different at the high school level. Jr High success DOES NOT = high school success!! You seem fairly realistic, you should know that.

Otter40
02-10-2010, 11:23 AM
Tugnut- when you say "win it all" you do mean the SCOL right?? Not state? If you do mean state, please fill me in on this talent pool. If you are referring to Jr. High, give me a break. You must be a parent. I know McClain has a nice 8th grade team, but it's friggin Jr High!!! So many factors are different at the high school level. Jr High success DOES NOT = high school success!! You seem fairly realistic, you should know that.

I totally agree. I hope Tugnut will give an explanation to his "win it all" comment.

tugnut
02-10-2010, 02:48 PM
No, once again I am not a parent to these kids. I will say a VERY good chance to "win it all" meaning state. The 7th grade team went 17-0 and yes beating Chillicothe. The 8th grade team went 16-1 with the only loss to WCH by 1 point. They have 4-5 big kids in those grades and will only get taller. The 7th graders have 2 6'1 kids that are twins and another kid about 6'0. The 8th grade has a kid that 6'2 and a few around the 6'0 mark. Some of those may not grow but, most of them will oh and the8th grade beat Chilly. They are the quickest Jr. High teams I have seen at Greenfield and just wait and see. Home grown talent fellows!

I agree it is only Jr. High but, we will see!

iknownothing
02-10-2010, 03:34 PM
bahahahahahbaahahahahhahaha Print up the gear now.... McClain 2013 State Champs!! Probably back to back baby!! WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! !!!

Cactus
02-10-2010, 05:00 PM
Maybe they can schedule Kentucky. With all of that quickness and 6'+ kids that will "get taller", they will probably be able to beat Kentucky in 2013! Unless those kids start moving out of the district like other talented players have done.

iknownothing
02-10-2010, 07:08 PM
I'd just like to know how good this washington ch team is?? i mean they gave mcclain their only loss??? they must be competing for the national title as high schoolers....hahahahahbababbababhahahh :p

IndianGOLD
02-10-2010, 07:32 PM
Now I know you have lost it tug. I remember back in the early 80s Hillsboro had a team go through 7th and 8th undefeated. They all started varsity as sophs and then they ran into Mustard, King, Tony ? and 2 others that made up the best team I have ever seen in this area. So don't count your chickens before they hatch. They may end up laying an egg at the varsity level.

tugnut
02-10-2010, 08:30 PM
That would be Tony Jackson. Mustards boy is on the 8th grade team. I dont really follow the Jr. High to be honest. I will say this you can poke at me all you want but, if the Tigers do indeed win it all, it will be on you guys! Btw I am not counting my chickens before they hatch, I am not stupid and think that Jr. High is going to be the same as High School. This I will say, to me this may very well be the best team; to come out of Greenfield.

h8rsevrywhr
02-10-2010, 10:26 PM
Im pretty sure Greenfield didnt win state with Dante. Im pretty sure he was the best player and athlete ever to put on a McClain uniform. Im pretty sure there wont be any state title banners in the McClain gym in the near future. Anyone else besides tug think Im wrong please let me know.

Otter40
02-11-2010, 07:32 AM
Officially the dumbest comment I've ever heard a Greenfield person make. Wow.

Otter40
02-11-2010, 07:44 AM
With the draw on Sunday, let's hear final predicitons on seeding. The cancellations could be good or bad for some teams. WCH or Waverly gets the one? I wonder if the brother-in-laws want to play each other?

ironman92
02-11-2010, 09:24 AM
1. WCH
2. Waverly.....if they lose before tourney will be #3
3. Chilly
4. Boro
5. Greenfield
6. Jackson
7. Unioto
8. Miami Trace
9. Circleville

Should be interesting!

tugnut
02-11-2010, 01:07 PM
Im pretty sure Greenfield didnt win state with Dante. Im pretty sure he was the best player and athlete ever to put on a McClain uniform. Im pretty sure there wont be any state title banners in the McClain gym in the near future. Anyone else besides tug think Im wrong please let me know.

It takes more than just one person...he didnt have much of a group to complement him. We will see! Lets get back on topic about the tourny.

tugnut
02-11-2010, 01:09 PM
Officially the dumbest comment I've ever heard a Greenfield person make. Wow.

Officially the dumbest comment an otter has made...Wow! lets get back on topic about the tourney and let the next few years pan out for themselves!

tugnut
02-11-2010, 01:11 PM
1. WCH
2. Waverly.....if they lose before tourney will be #3
3. Chilly
4. Boro
5. Greenfield
6. Jackson
7. Unioto
8. Miami Trace
9. Circleville

Should be interesting!

Hillsboro...wont be a #4 they will be no higher than a 5 and no lower than a #6...just IMO!

tugnut
02-11-2010, 01:15 PM
Here is my perdiction...

1. WCH
2. Chillicothe
3. Waverly
4. Greenfield
5. Hillsboro
6. Jackson
7. Unioto
8. Miami Trace
9. Circleville

IndianGOLD
02-11-2010, 01:16 PM
What is Jacksons record? don't they 2 big men that are very good one going Akron.

tugnut
02-11-2010, 01:17 PM
Will the #1 seed get a bye or will the #8 and #9 battle it out in a game for the #8 seed? That will make a difference on who plays who.

ironman92
02-11-2010, 01:30 PM
Greenfield will be 4 or 5.....how have they done versus Hillsboro on the court?

4 or 5 doesn't matter.....so they could vote GM #4 making them happy for what they have accomplished without any rule breaking....but I believe the coaches will award Hillsboro the #4 based on what they did on the actual playing court....even though they had to forfeit some games...that is teh team that will be playing in the tourney.

ironman92
02-11-2010, 01:47 PM
Does Jackson have a big man going to Akron??? lol

We've never had a big guy go beyond D2...and just a few go D3.

We do have a player going to Bowling Green on a full scholarship....but it's in golf.

Our main lineup:

5'11 guard....nearing in on 1,000 points and is inch for inch one of the best players in the district. One of those kids that will score 20 and you'll think...how'd he do that? Mark him down for 10 rebounds as well.

5'11 guard....state golf champion and one of the best 3 point shooters I've seen in a while...maybe since McLain's AD played for Jackson back in the mid 80's. Averaged 18 ppg as a soph and near that last year....hasn't had the PT to score 18 ppg this year....but if given the opportunity he could go off for 30+

6'6 center.....pretty strong player but often gets into foul trouble. He's controlled his fouls much better of late and you'd guess him with 8-10 pts and 8-10 rb

5'10 PG....solid, few turnovers and probably leads the team in steals....about 6 ppg

5'9 guard.....best passer on the team, plays with great effort...probably 4 ppg

5'10 guard.....great shooter, doesn't always get the opportunity but has led the team in scoring twice.....one game he hit 5 3's in about 1/2 qtr

6'3 guard.....doesn't get many opportunities but Jackson seems to do well when he is in....very long...just a basketball player...scored 14 at Logan in about 2 qtrs

I know I sound like a homer....but they can really play at a high level. Their schedule is tough....midway through the season they were without Coach Jordan for 2 games and played their final home game nearly 2 weeks ago. One game we hit 14 3's.....versus Portsmouth we hit 7 in the first 10 minutes of the game....and we've had the 4-26 games from the 3.....losing games to Marietta and Gallipolis...played 68 minutes versus Warren Local and shot only 1 free throw total.

If I was a high seed....I wouldn't want to face Jackson.....if I were a lower seed team......I would want to face Jackson....sounds silly, but it is what it is.

IndianGOLD
02-11-2010, 05:17 PM
I was mistaken them with Massillon Jackson. I thought I would have heard more about them if they were that good.

vanbest
02-11-2010, 07:02 PM
Hauserman!!! Are you serious? You cant be. Someone did tell me he signed to play somewhere for football, but i cant remember where. Im glad he had something to fall back on besides basketball. And the whole Zollo/Kentucky thing was just a joke, and I think thats what Kentucky thought too.


wow. You got the joke!

vanbest
02-11-2010, 07:28 PM
No, once again I am not a parent to these kids. I will say a VERY good chance to "win it all" meaning state. The 7th grade team went 17-0 and yes beating Chillicothe. The 8th grade team went 16-1 with the only loss to WCH by 1 point. They have 4-5 big kids in those grades and will only get taller. The 7th graders have 2 6'1 kids that are twins and another kid about 6'0. The 8th grade has a kid that 6'2 and a few around the 6'0 mark. Some of those may not grow but, most of them will oh and the8th grade beat Chilly. They are the quickest Jr. High teams I have seen at Greenfield and just wait and see. Home grown talent fellows!

I agree it is only Jr. High but, we will see!

Crap, here goe's. This years senior team was rarely beaten in jr. high. They went 17-0 as freshman, 18-1 as sophs. This is without Polley, as he was moved up under the"VM" era. Eaton does not recognize the VM era as he knows this team should have been left intact. It has taken most of the year to get this team to play together. Eaton has a tough job getting this team to play together, and why not?, you have kids who have, for some reason or another, been chosen over the rest of the = talented team to be in the forfront. This is just an observation. Read the fine print at the bottom of the page," this would be the lawyers disclaimers!"

Stumblebum
02-11-2010, 07:29 PM
Here is my perdiction...

1. WCH
2. Chillicothe
3. Waverly
4. Greenfield
5. Hillsboro
6. Jackson
7. Unioto
8. Miami Trace
9. Circleville

I'm a McClain fan, Tug. Have been for years. But, I don't see how they could seed the Tigers ahead of Hillsboro when Hillsboro has beaten them twice this season on the court. I'll go with Ironman's seeding prediction.

iknownothing
02-11-2010, 09:16 PM
Don't know how you seed Waverly behind Chilly when they have fewer losses!
And if Jackson is that good on paper.... HOW IN THE HECK ARE THEY 500? I mean tough schedule or not holy crap. They should be the 1 seed.

IUFAN22
02-12-2010, 06:59 AM
I'm a McClain fan, Tug. Have been for years. But, I don't see how they could seed the Tigers ahead of Hillsboro when Hillsboro has beaten them twice this season on the court. I'll go with Ironman's seeding prediction.

Greenfield 4 & Hillsboro 5,,,,,Didnt Hillsboro Beat Greenfield Twice? Pounded them Once. Oh, I forgot,,,They Have Eaton or should I say "Super Coach". I know Your a Greenfield Fan, Its OK.

Stumblebum
02-12-2010, 09:25 AM
1. WCH
2. Waverly.....if they lose before tourney will be #3
3. Chilly
4. Boro
5. Greenfield
6. Jackson
7. Unioto
8. Miami Trace
9. Circleville

Should be interesting!

Notice that Ironman picked Hillsboro ahead of McClain. I agree with that, based on the fact that the Indians beat McClain twice this season.

I do question picking Waverly ahead of Chilly. They play each other the 16th. If Chilly pounds them, I don't see how they could seed Waverly ahead of them. If Waverly wins, yes, I will agree with you.

Stumblebum
02-12-2010, 09:29 AM
"2. Waverly.....if they lose before tourney will be #3
3. Chilly"

I guess he DID put a caveat on it. I will agree with him on that.

tugnut
02-12-2010, 11:56 AM
It is based on the records....I guess than really McClain should be seeded #7 because Hillsboro beat them twice....I will stick with my perdictions if McClain is #1 0r #9 it really doesnt matter you have to play the game and win in order to move on to Athens.

Stumblebum
02-12-2010, 03:24 PM
"if McClain is #1 0r #9 it really doesnt matter you have to play the game and win in order to move on to Athens."

I agree with that. A lot of coaches would rather play than have a bye. When you have a bye, you play a team that has already played - and, WON.
And, in the longrun, you have to beat the good teams in order to advance.

ironman92
02-12-2010, 06:46 PM
Jackson's schedule thus far:

W home versus Minford by about 12
W home versus Athens 70-44
W @ LOGAN by about 10
L @Portsmouth in double OT
L home versus Ironton lost by about 15 (tight thru 3 qtrs)
L @ Warren by about 30...played Marietta the night before
L home versus Marietta.......4/26 from 3 ball
L home versus Chillicothe by about 20 (but close thru 3 1/2)
W @ Wellston in a nail-biter as we played the night before and Chilly ran us out
L home versus Gallipolis....played horrible
W home versus Meigs by not enough
W home versus Logan by about 15....made 13 3's
L home versus Portsmouth by about 15
L home versus Warren...led by 7 with 3:00 left and took 2 stupid shots...lost in OT

L @ Ironton 70-41...but was down 31-26 thru 2 1/2 qtrs
W @ Marietta

We haven't had any flow all season long....rough league schedule and a couple of intense running games followed the next night by dead leg games have hurt some. One of our best scorers has been sat a lot and we were without Jordan for a few games and have not been allowed to practice during any missed school days or those weekends for the most part.

We have stayed with the VERY good teams (Chilly, Ironton and Portsmouth) for large portions of the game...but lose steam or don't make great decisions.....Chilly couldn't miss early and then ran us ragged late pulling away, Ironton's typical gameplan is to wear you down late and they are impressive at doing so (were down 29-6 @ CHilly and came back to win) and Portsmouth with Horne is as athletic and talented as anyone did what Chilly did to us.

I promise you we are very dangerous for a 7-9 team....but can lay an egg pretty well too.

ironman92
02-12-2010, 08:27 PM
Warren Local 43
@ Chillicothe 42

Big win for Warrren and maybe a big win for Waverly as Chillly lost and Waverly beat tough D4 South Webster 63-49

Unioto over Paint Valley by about 10

Jackson wins @ Marietta

iknownothing
02-12-2010, 08:57 PM
The Chilly loss kills them. Warren beat them without their best player. Chilly plays a tough Reynoldsburg team tom. they could have 7 losses. I don't care who they play, 7 losses you aint gonna be a 3 seed or maybe even a 4!! You have to beat the teams on your schedule, moral victories count the same as 40pt butt whoopins in the Win Loss column!!!

ironman92
02-12-2010, 09:08 PM
Who you putting in the #3 spot?

Hillsboro? Greenfield with losses to Hillsboro and Lynchburg Clay????

I don't see team looking at the #4 or #5 seed putting themselves versus Chilly

Hillsboro would like to face GM I bet and then WCH for the winner

Jackson will get the #6....and they won't want Chilly 3rd...so they could side with some others to get Chilly #4 I suppose...

Warren is 11-3 and very structured.

iknownothing
02-12-2010, 09:15 PM
jackson aint getting the 6 gaurantee!
wch
waverly
hillsboro
mcclain/chilly
unioto
jackson
mt
circleville
BOOK IT!
you don't seed teams on maybes and potential and how close you played someone for 3 1/2 quarters.... doesn't work that way. If Chilly has 7 losses, which they very well could THEY WILL NOT BE A 3 SEED.

ironman92
02-12-2010, 10:58 PM
Well nothing is for sure...but please tell me all the teams above them.

I wasn't saying that playing with a good team does anything other than say....they CAN play on a high level

IMO Jackson is THE #6 seed.....Unioto has same # of wins with a weaker schedule

tugnut
02-12-2010, 11:08 PM
Hillsboro with 8 or 9 loses wont get the #3 seed...imo. Now Waverly could very well get the 2 seed with the W's and L's tonight. I thought Chilly was all world...lol mark up another L for Chilly or the MIGHTY Chilly Cavs...lol.....LOL!

tugnut
02-12-2010, 11:11 PM
Agree on the Jackson - Unioto statement ironman92

h8rsevrywhr
02-13-2010, 02:03 AM
WCH
Waverly
Hillsboro
Chillicothe
McClain

Dont think it matters after those. Coaches arent going to hold forfeits against Hillsboro. Only way this wont happen is if the brother in laws dont want to play each other first.

Cactus
02-13-2010, 05:27 AM
Tug-When does Greenfield jr high play again? I want to be able to see the future state champs before they start selling out gyms.

iknownothing
02-13-2010, 07:27 AM
Cactus- they are even better at home because their booster members that sell me popcorn when i scout mcclain ALSO ref the game down there! and I'M SO NOT JOKING!! in athletics it's on the verge of unethical, shouldn't even put yourself in that position, to add insult to it the one guys boy plays varsity..... now you tell me how he's unbiased?

Stumblebum
02-13-2010, 10:19 AM
[QUOTE=h8rsevrywhr;4809497]WCH
Waverly
Hillsboro
Chillicothe
McClain

Dont think it matters after those. Coaches arent going to hold forfeits against Hillsboro. Only way this wont happen is if the brother in laws dont want to play each other first.[/QUOTE

Brothers-in-law. Come Monday, we won't have to speculate. We should KNOW, shouldn't we?

ironman92
02-13-2010, 04:42 PM
After playing games Thursday @ Ironton and Friday at Marietta (2 hr drive one way)...Jackson defeats Gallia Academy on the road to move to 8-9

#6 seed

IndianGOLD
02-14-2010, 01:50 PM
Hillsboro is the 4 Greenfield the 5. Rematch Hillsboro by 18. Do not know the rest of the seeds.

IndianGOLD
02-14-2010, 01:52 PM
1. WCH
2. Waverly.....if they lose before tourney will be #3
3. Chilly
4. Boro
5. Greenfield
6. Jackson
7. Unioto
8. Miami Trace
9. Circleville

Should be interesting!

Your top 5 are correct not sure about anything else

Stumblebum
02-14-2010, 02:19 PM
So Hillsboro will attempt to beat the Tigers three times in one season, huh? Interesting.

tugnut
02-14-2010, 05:35 PM
So, anybody know the seeding yet? Greenfield gets thumped last night so....who knows?

ironman92
02-14-2010, 06:21 PM
Unioto is the #6
Jackson is the #7

Looks like the SCOL got what it wanted in avoiding Waverly and Chilly

I wonder if Jordan wanted the #7 of playing Waverly instead of Chilly?

iknownothing
02-14-2010, 06:22 PM
8) MT
9) Circleville (winner plays #1 WCH)

4) Hillsboro
5) McClain (winner plays winner of WCH and winner of 8 9 game)

2) Waverly
7) Jackson

3) Chillicothe
6) Unioto

8 - 9 game is the 22nd

2 -7 and 3 -6 are the 23rd

1- 8/9 and 4- 5 are the 24th

Finals are the 26th and 27th

iknownothing
02-14-2010, 06:24 PM
Unioto is the #6
Jackson is the #7

Looks like the SCOL got what it wanted in avoiding Waverly and Chilly

I wonder if Jordan wanted the #7 of playing Waverly instead of Chilly?


What makes you think that the SCOL teams want to avoid these schools... I'd think that the SCOL teams would want to avoid each other... not having to play each other 3 times in one year to make it to the district...

Stumblebum
02-14-2010, 06:33 PM
Unless there is a tremendous difference between two teams, it is never easy to beat one team three times in one season. It's not impossible, but, it's not easy. A little like Russian Roulette.

Otter40
02-14-2010, 07:21 PM
Assuming Trace takes care of Circleville, Court House and Trace will play at 6:15, followed by Hillsboro and Greenfield at 8 on Feb. 24. Both are rivarly games. I look for WCH to take care of Trace and for Hillsboro to take down the Tigers for the third time this season.

ironman92
02-14-2010, 10:30 PM
If I'm a team like HIllsboro I'd much rather face Greenfield for a 3rd time rather than face Waverly or Chilly....and then face WCH a team they are quite familiar with.

I just feel Waverly and Chilly are very athletic basketball teams that are hard to matchup with if they are on at all.

Seriously..what's with Unioto getting the 6th over Jackson.

As for the SCOL getting what they want....it's quite odd that the SCOL teams only face each other with the exception of MT playing Cville...which simply had to happen......and Jackson,Waverly, CHilly and Unioto must all face each other.

This scenario guarantees an all SCOL sectional final and semi final.


Is the Shaw kid OK for WCH....in their last box score he wasn't listed.

LionScout
02-15-2010, 07:49 AM
I think he is ok. Was out sick. Had a few players lately a little under the weather.

da boro_08
02-15-2010, 08:31 AM
If I'm a team like HIllsboro I'd much rather face Greenfield for a 3rd time rather than face Waverly or Chilly....and then face WCH a team they are quite familiar with.

I just feel Waverly and Chilly are very athletic basketball teams that are hard to matchup with if they are on at all.

Seriously..what's with Unioto getting the 6th over Jackson.

As for the SCOL getting what they want....it's quite odd that the SCOL teams only face each other with the exception of MT playing Cville...which simply had to happen......and Jackson,Waverly, CHilly and Unioto must all face each other.

This scenario guarantees an all SCOL sectional final and semi final.


Is the Shaw kid OK for WCH....in their last box score he wasn't listed.

I could not agree more. Hillsboro matches up way better with Greenfield and Court House than Waverly or Chilly. So im my opinion, getting the 4 was better than getting the 3 and playing Waverly. This does not guarantee a trip to Athens, but certainly gives them a better chance.

tugnut
02-15-2010, 01:55 PM
Oh please, The SCOL isnt scared of nobody. I think that they would be glad to face Waverly or Chillicothe. Those teams has been beat by an SCOl opponet numerous times so...all that about the SCOL fairing off better is a bunch of BS.
I think MT (thats if they get by circleville) and WCH will be close along with Greenfield and Hillsboro. I think if WCH plays Circleville blowout by the Lions. Hillsboro will get beat by the Tigers and WCH plays Greenfield at Grenfield before the Tournament...that game will be interesting along with the sectional final. I will take Greenfield at home and in the finals.

tugnut
02-15-2010, 01:56 PM
I would love for Greenfield and Chilly play this year.

Cactus
02-15-2010, 02:36 PM
Tug-It's a good thing Greenfield doesn't have to play Zane Trace in the tourney!

IndianGOLD
02-15-2010, 02:36 PM
Oh please, The SCOL isnt scared of nobody. I think that they would be glad to face Waverly or Chillicothe. Those teams has been beat by an SCOl opponet numerous times so...all that about the SCOL fairing off better is a bunch of BS.
I think MT (thats if they get by circleville) and WCH will be close along with Greenfield and Hillsboro. I think if WCH plays Circleville blowout by the Lions. Hillsboro will get beat by the Tigers and WCH plays Greenfield at Grenfield before the Tournament...that game will be interesting along with the sectional final. I will take Greenfield at home and in the finals.

Oh what a tiger fantasy world you live in. They are just not that good this year.

ironman92
02-15-2010, 03:29 PM
whatever....the SCOL has had difficulty beating little SHL schools....they aren't stupid.....they had the most coaches at the draw and got exactly what they wanted.

WCH trailed D4 Fairfield (8-8) most of the game and prevailed by single digits in the end...at home I believe.

Greenfield McClain lost to small D3 6-10 Lynchburg...game at Greenfield?

Hillsboro as talented as they are needed missed free throws by 9-8 less than 100 boys Whiteoak....at Southern State to win by 3.......and they didn't exactly manhandle Lynchburg or tiny Fairfield as well....none of which were road games.

None of those teams above have 1/2 the athletes of Waverly or Chilly....not even close

Good Luck to all these teams as it's the kids who are going at it....but IMO the seeding went EXACTLY 1-9 the way the SCOL coaches wanted it.

Weren't some of you saying that no way Chilly with 7 losses would be a 3 seed? All you had to do is look ahead.

iknownothing
02-15-2010, 04:11 PM
Hey tugnut- is your 8th grade team playing in the tourney or your varsity team? just wondering.

iknownothing
02-15-2010, 04:13 PM
well ironman- wonder why your super coach voted unioto ahead of himself in the draw??? if they are as good as you say, why didn't he wanna face chilly in the 3-6 game? chicken??

Otter40
02-15-2010, 04:28 PM
Unless you know for sure what the SCOL schools wanted, I don't think you can say that. Also, does it matter how many coaches go to the draw? As far as the SHL schools versus SCOL goes, those games are huge for the smaller schools. Schools like Whiteoak, Leesburg, and Lynchburg always play hard against the bigger schools wanting to prove they can play with the "big boys." They circle those games on the schedule each year. Hillsboro only struggled with Whiteoak. They simply didn't come to play. Hillsboro also had no trouble at all with Leesburg at home and was ahead by double digits AT Lynchburg for most of the game. Hillsboro also defeated a very good Eastern Brown team. As far as the athletes go, I can't comment on Chilly because I haven't seen them yet, but I know Hillsboro and Waverly BOTH have athletic players. Hillsboro has always had good athletes, and this year is no different. I wonder how Waverly feels about playing Jackson? I can't believe Unioto got the #6 over them.

da boro_08
02-15-2010, 05:48 PM
I'm not sure what the SCOL vs. SHL has to do with anything.. Since it was brought up I hate hearing SCOL schools should always beat smaller SHL schools by 20..You only need 5 to play..Plus SCOL schools are busy with football in the summer and fall, whereas SHL schools do nothing but play basketball..Period..Plus SCOL schools lose athletes to wrestling..So while it certainly is an advantage having more students, it doesnt always mean you will have better team...But anyway you can call it scared or whatever..I call it smart..If I'm Hillsboro, I wanna avoid Waverly with their big athletic lineup...I like my chances against a team I already beat once without my best player..And by same token, if Im Court-House i would rather play Hillsboro than a much more athletic and big Chilly. Seems like common sense to me..

Stumblebum
02-15-2010, 07:24 PM
"WCH trailed D4 Fairfield (8-8) most of the game and prevailed by single digits in the end...at home I believe.

Greenfield McClain lost to small D3 6-10 Lynchburg...game at Greenfield?

Hillsboro as talented as they are needed missed free throws by 9-8 less than 100 boys Whiteoak....at Southern State to win by 3......."

Am I mistaken, or were these games at Southern State Community College?

Anyway, my guess, and it is strictly a guess, is that WCH will beat M - T in a two or three pointer, and that Hillsboro will fail to beat McClain three times in one season. This one might be an overtime game.

ironman92
02-15-2010, 08:23 PM
Jordan voted Jackson #7 to avoid Chilly which I've said in about 5 different post is the only team I simply don't think we can beat...a horrible matchup for Jackson. We played them IN JACKSON....played great and were right with them until early in the 4th......then our legs were gone and we ended up being nearly 20 back before it was over.

Waverly may beat us by 30.....but they haven't seen us and vice versa....plus we have at least faced their type of athletes.

Jordan knew he had the choice of Chilly or Waverly.....he chose Waverly

chicken? If he's chicken then so are several in this sectional

ironman92
02-15-2010, 08:28 PM
it's definately smart boro


Hillsboro has the athletes to beat anyone in this sectional......I don't see GM beating them. WCH and Hillsboro should be a great game!....and the winner has the athletic advantage over the #2/#3 winner of the Logan sectional....Athens and Warren are very good teams with great coaches...but not great athletes.....kinda a Jackson type team with more consistency.

I'm not sure Boro or WCH couldn't beat Logan Elm on the right night...but Stiverson is one of the very best coaches and that makes it tougher.

tugnut
02-15-2010, 09:13 PM
LE will be district champs.

tugnut
02-15-2010, 09:15 PM
I am glad to see you guys have everything figured out. I guess we will see :)

tugnut
02-15-2010, 09:16 PM
Didnt Chillicothe get beat by a much smaller school in just about every game they lost? I mean Ironton...they are just huge!

ironman92
02-15-2010, 10:44 PM
Are you really using losing to Ironton as a comeback to my talk of the SHL teams?

Whiteoak, Fairfield and Lynchburg are all capable teams and especially on a given night....Ironton, regardless of division is one of THE best, deepest and well-coached teams in the entire SE district....I would put them right behind Logan Elm as the 2nd best team in the 70 school district.

I'm over the seedings and everything about that....I've given my opinion and it's time to move on.

Each game is set and the kids and coaches will determine the outcome (hopefully)

Good Luck to all teams giving it their all that play with good sportsmanship.


and for all my spewing.....Coach Eaton has done a great job in his 1st season at Greenfield, Coach Davis is doing a great job at Hillsboro and Coach Shaffer.....geesh over 605 wins...WOW!

Stumblebum
02-16-2010, 09:29 AM
it's definately smart boro


Hillsboro has the athletes to beat anyone in this sectional......I don't see GM beating them. WCH and Hillsboro should be a great game!....and the winner has the athletic advantage over the #2/#3 winner of the Logan sectional....Athens and Warren are very good teams with great coaches...but not great athletes.....kinda a Jackson type team with more consistency.

I'm not sure Boro or WCH couldn't beat Logan Elm on the right night...but Stiverson is one of the very best coaches and that makes it tougher.

Question - WCH and M - T (or, Circleville) will play the first game on Feb. 24, and Hillsboro and McClain play the second game. Do you have to have two tickets to see both games? Or, will one ticket let you see both games. I'm too old to hide in that trash can, again this year. I like to never got out of that thing last February. Then my back hurt for six weeks afterward.

ironman92
02-16-2010, 10:08 AM
It seems like maybe they used clear it for the Sectional finals only.....but it seems like last year they cleared after every game...per OHSAA

iknownothing
02-16-2010, 10:42 AM
hey ironman- that warren team you said isn't very athletic beat chilly by 1 at chilly without warrens top scorer...

ironman92
02-16-2010, 12:06 PM
Thanks...I believe I reported that on here first just minutes after it happened.

The Warren TEAM is just that....GREAT program, GREAT coach. Warren is the least athletic team that beat Chilly. They have been battle tested and they'll be ready every game.....Ironton barely beat them twice and they also beat super-athletic Portsmouth with all of their players....in Portsmouth.

I don't know what you want me to say. I guess if Greenfield can play to same the level as Warren they could beat Chilly? We'll never know this year unless they both reach the district finals....and if that happens....well we'll see.

Stumblebum
02-16-2010, 12:37 PM
I'm a fan of the McClain program. But, I would give them about a one in eight chance of beating Chillicothe this year. I would be there rooting for them, but I think they would have little chance. Chilli would be just way too big and way too fast for the Tigers.

ironman92
02-16-2010, 02:03 PM
We played Warren @ Warren and were trounced by about 30

Warrren comes to Jackson and we play great and they played awful for 3qtrs....they played a great 4th qtr and beat us in OT

We played just as good versus Chilly @ Jackson and they beat us by 20. I think If Jackson played Chilly 10 times...they might beat them once.....I'd say Warren would beat them 3 or 4 times out of 10....and Jackson would beat Warren maybe 3 tiems out of 10.


What is Greenfield's best win? Did they beat Madison Plains?

Otter40
02-16-2010, 07:08 PM
Greenfield beat Plains at home and loss to them in OT at their place.

Stumblebum
02-16-2010, 07:56 PM
McClain is not as bad as a lot of people think they are. Everybody I talk to in the Hillsboro area says Hillsboro will be an easy winner Feb. 24. But, I have a strange feeling that the Indians will have their hands full. Remember, the Indians beat McClain @ Greenfield by a couple of points and McClain got several really bad calls (and NO CALLS) in the last minute or so. I don't think there is as much difference between these teams as a lot of people think there is. But, that's only my opinion. That and $2.25 will get you a cup of coffee at Holtfield.

Stumblebum
02-16-2010, 08:06 PM
"I guess if Greenfield can play to same the level as Warren they could beat Chilly? We'll never know this year unless they both reach the district finals....and if that happens....well we'll see."

There is no way McClain is going to reach the district finals this year, and I doubt if Chillicothe does.

ironman92
02-16-2010, 09:18 PM
Is that a slam on Holtfield???? I had both of the owner's sons in class when I first began teaching.

ironman92
02-16-2010, 10:31 PM
A couple of posts from a couple of prominent Chilly fans from another site: They don't mean a whole lot...but they make me feel better.....personally I don't think we can beat Chillicothe and I'm not sure Jordan believes it either.....but a couple of fans don't want to face us again.

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I like our draw and I'm glad we are playing U instead of Jackson in that first game. Its almost like we got the 2 seed instead of the 3.

Go Cavs!

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And yes, to Baller3 point, us getting Unioto versus Jackson is like getting a 2 seed, simply because we will have played Jackson twice and I would prefer not to face them again. If they shot the basketball well they are very dangerous.

GO CAVS!!!

tugnut
02-16-2010, 11:28 PM
The one thing that Grenfield is lacking is a go to guy. You would think that Lucas Polley would be that guy... since he has started since his sophmore year. To be honest that has disappointed me this year. It seems like we have a bunch of good role playing kids just no leader on the court. I think that Greenfield will be a tuff out in the sectional but, in the Districts if they move on to play there, will be a little different.

Otter40
02-17-2010, 08:21 AM
Hillsboro dominated Greenfield in the first matchup. Not even close. In the rematch at Greenfield, Hillsboro led the whole way until the end of the game when Wise got hot. Everyone knows that Greenfield is one of the hardest places to get a win and the Indians managed to get it done. I look for Hillsboro to take this one in a very competitive game. I don't believe in all that crap about how it's hard to beat a team three times in one season, blah blah blah. Greenfield just isn't as good as the Nation thinks they are. Hillsboro 57 Greenfield 52.

Stumblebum
02-17-2010, 08:48 AM
So, if McClain and Hillsboro played each other 20 times, in your opinion Hillsboro would win all 20? O.K. But, if the Tigers would win only one of the 20 (does anybody believe that?) then every time you go back to the well you take the chance that THIS may be the game where they rise up and bite you in the a**. The law of averages says you can't go on beating them forever. And, I don't think there is that much difference between the two teams to begin with.

Stumblebum
02-17-2010, 08:55 AM
And, I agree with tugnut that Polley has been a disappointment. I don't think he is as good as he was when he was a sophomore, and I have said that on this board many times. Maybe this will be a breakout game for him. I will always think that he would have been better in the long run if they had left him on the reserve team his sophomore year. I guess they needed him on the varsity, but, it hasn't helped him.

eyeonthetigers
02-17-2010, 09:13 AM
The one thing that Grenfield is lacking is a go to guy. You would think that Lucas Polley would be that guy... since he has started since his sophmore year. To be honest that has disappointed me this year. It seems like we have a bunch of good role playing kids just no leader on the court. I think that Greenfield will be a tuff out in the sectional but, in the Districts if they move on to play there, will be a little different.

Good post. I have to agree that McClain lacks leadership on the court and has no shooters. They have kids that can score but no consistant shooters. Coach Eaton is a good coach and has had his hands full trying to pull many personalities and talents together. This season has been a learning curve for both the players and a first year head coach. He has a lot of victorius seasons ahead of him. Good luck to the Tigers for the remainder of the season.

iknownothing
02-17-2010, 11:01 AM
stumble/ otter40 what is the series between these two teams (gfield/ boro) over the past few years, just wondered... mcclain got the shaft at home this year... polley isn't as good because teams key on him and he doesn't have dante passing him the ball in the corner for wide open jumpers... it happens. he's still a very good player/ defender/ slasher... the one thing i don't see from him this year is that passion and heart... love that matracia kid though... WOW he plays hard... i like mcclain in the 3rd match-up... don't know why just do... steagall won't kill them like he did the first 2 times...

Otter40
02-17-2010, 11:23 AM
During the Dante years, Hillsboro only won once. Hillsboro has won four straight.

da boro_08
02-17-2010, 03:00 PM
stumble/ otter40 what is the series between these two teams (gfield/ boro) over the past few years, just wondered... mcclain got the shaft at home this year... polley isn't as good because teams key on him and he doesn't have dante passing him the ball in the corner for wide open jumpers... it happens. he's still a very good player/ defender/ slasher... the one thing i don't see from him this year is that passion and heart... love that matracia kid though... WOW he plays hard... i like mcclain in the 3rd match-up... don't know why just do... steagall won't kill them like he did the first 2 times...

Polley played with Dante? I didnt know he played varsity as a freshman. But I agree bout not seein the passion from him. He just seems lathargic this year. But anyway Hillsboro will win again. Too many weapons. Steagal didn't play that well the second game, (9 points if I remember correct) and they still won..Plus Carrol is healthier now..Playin better..Saw in paper he had 25 other night..Hillsboro wins for 3rd time..

IUFAN22
02-18-2010, 06:49 AM
Well Stumblebum, the Sectionals are played on a "Nuetral Court", so You are always saying that this team coudnt beat that team on a nuetral court. So what are your Predictions?

Stumblebum
02-18-2010, 07:32 AM
You mean Neutral? I listed all my predictions on the S.E. Tournament Challenge (on this board). But, WCH over M - T in a close one, and McClain over Hillsboro in an even closer one, then WCH over EITHER McClain or Hillsboro. But, of course, those are only my predictions. I don't have a crystal ball. If I did, I'd be taking BETS.

Otter40
02-18-2010, 08:16 AM
My thought is simply that Hillsboro is better than Greenfield this year. Who knows who would win between the two if they played 20 times. And in no way did I say Hillsboro would beat them 20 straight. Based on what I've seen on the court this year, Hillsboro should win for the third time. I like the fact that Hillsboro has experienced guys who played major roles in making it to the District Final last year. This group knows what it takes to get it done and has had success vs the Tigers.

tugnut
02-18-2010, 01:22 PM
I will take Greenfield my thought is Greenfield got the shaft in a big way at Greenfield and in the sectional it will even out! The Tigers play WCH this Friday I look for the Tigers to get a W.

ironman92
02-18-2010, 08:55 PM
Chilly over Jackson tonight in Chilly 68-46. Just a horrible matchup for us.

Stumblebum
02-19-2010, 04:53 AM
Chilly over Jackson tonight in Chilly 68-46. Just a horrible matchup for us.

Are they going to play the Chilli vs, Waverly game? Or, has it already been played? I haven't heard a word about it.

Cactus
02-19-2010, 06:08 AM
It's not going to be played.

IUFAN22
02-19-2010, 06:54 AM
You mean Neutral? I listed all my predictions on the S.E. Tournament Challenge (on this board). But, WCH over M - T in a close one, and McClain over Hillsboro in an even closer one, then WCH over EITHER McClain or Hillsboro. But, of course, those are only my predictions. I don't have a crystal ball. If I did, I'd be taking BETS.

Im trying to figure this out. You think WCH and MT will be a close game?? If you think that game will be close, because MT is terrible, how can you think that Hillsboro or Greenfield wont beat them! You should really try to find you a Crystal Ball. I think they are at Holtfield for $25.00.

Stumblebum
02-19-2010, 08:42 AM
WCH is the best team in that bracket (excluding Chilli and Waverly). But, M -T and WCH is a county rivalry, M - T has been improving, and I think they will play their best basketball against WCH. I still doubt that they are good enough to beat the Lions, but they may play them surprisingly tough. Hillsboro COULD beat MClain and Hillsboro COULD beat WCH. I just don't think they will. And, before you tell me to get a crystal ball, lets wait and see how the games come out. I will be in the crowd for both games. The WCH game at Greenfield, tonight, will be interesting. I look for a barnburner and either team could win it. I know I don't have your experience in basketball, and I don't have your knowledge of the game or the teams. But, somehow, I have managed to get along (so far).

Stumblebum
02-19-2010, 08:53 AM
It's not going to be played.

That's too bad. It has to cost the Chillicothe athletic department a bundle. It would have been a big gate. But, maybe they will get a chance to see each other in the tournament. Oh, well.

Stumblebum
02-19-2010, 08:22 PM
In talking about WCH vs M - T, in the tournament, let's not forget that M - T has to beat Circleville. If they don't, nobody will have to be concerned about WCH vs M - T.

Also, since McClain beat WCH tonight, is the tournament even MORE wide open?

IUFAN22
02-19-2010, 08:38 PM
Circleville might be one of the worst teams I have seen play this year. I dont think MT will have any problem with them. I would love to have went to Greenfield tonight to watch that game. It would not shock me if Greenfield beats them.

ironman92
02-19-2010, 09:30 PM
McClain beating WCH proves McClain is playing their best basketball and are pacing the game well to their favor.

I think it proves that Waverly and Chilly are the toughest teams in this sectional.

ironman92
02-19-2010, 09:40 PM
Whoa Nelly....hold on there I92!


Waverly just got beat by Northwest.....Waverly was without Martin and without Martin they have lost at home to South Webster and just lost to an average Northwest team.

Anyone know why Martin was out? Without Martin Jackson stands a much better chance!

IUFAN22
02-19-2010, 11:10 PM
McClain beating WCH proves McClain is playing their best basketball and are pacing the game well to their favor.

I think it proves that Waverly and Chilly are the toughest teams in this sectional.

How does Greenfield winning tonight have anything to do with Waverly or Chilly Being the toughest teams? Regardless of who won tonight, Chilly is the best team. WCH is probably the 3rd or 4th best team in the D2 sectional. Hillsboro beat WCH by 20 earlier this year. We shall soon see next week who's right and wrong!

Stumblebum
02-20-2010, 08:35 AM
Wasn't Hillsboro supposed to play London last night? I can't find a score anywhere for that game. Does anyone know who won and by how much?

MP beat CM easily. I forget the score but it was by 20 or more.

Otter40
02-20-2010, 09:06 AM
Hillsboro 70 London 48. The Indians played one of their better games this season, and it couldn't come at a better time with the tournament game Wednesday. Like IUFAN said, I wasn't surprised that Greenfield beat Court House at home. That game has become a nasty rivarly in recent years. Plus, I heard they had a tribute to Van Matre before the game.

I'm still sticking to my prediction that Hillsboro will beat the Tigers again. Has anyone thought about the coaching matchup in this one? I give an edge to the Indians.

ironman92
02-20-2010, 10:27 PM
Jackson wins @ VC 71-68


VC is 14-5 now. Jackson is 9-10?

Stumblebum
02-21-2010, 04:03 AM
McClain came from 21 points down to beat Miami Trace 61 -60 at M - T.

Stumblebum
02-21-2010, 04:16 AM
And, Stormin' Norman works his magic again, as Oak Hill downs Waverly 42 - 34.

IUFAN22
02-21-2010, 08:36 AM
McClain came from 21 points down to beat Miami Trace 61 -60 at M - T.

I was at that game, MT played Lights out in the first half. They played a great 2-3 zone and made big shots. Greenfield turned up the heat in the second and MT had a meltdown. MT had a chance to win the ballgame with 7 sec left and missed an 8 footer. Very good game for Greenfield going in to the Sectional.

tugnut
02-21-2010, 10:58 AM
I will take Greenfield my thought is Greenfield got the shaft in a big way at Greenfield and in the sectional it will even out! The Tigers play WCH this Friday I look for the Tigers to get a W.

hmmmmm....chalk one up for the tug!!!!!

tugnut
02-21-2010, 11:03 AM
Hillsboro 70 London 48. The Indians played one of their better games this season, and it couldn't come at a better time with the tournament game Wednesday. Like IUFAN said, I wasn't surprised that Greenfield beat Court House at home. That game has become a nasty rivarly in recent years. Plus, I heard they had a tribute to Van Matre before the game.

I'm still sticking to my prediction that Hillsboro will beat the Tigers again. Has anyone thought about the coaching matchup in this one? I give an edge to the Indians.

I wil say....Eaton. I am not saying this because, I am a homer either. With the talent that Hillsboro has compared to Greenfields' this year. I will say Eaton. I do like the Hillsboro coach, I just think Eaton is slightly better as a coach,imo!

Stumblebum
02-21-2010, 04:15 PM
I won't go out on a limb on this one. It will be a battle royale, and either team could win. I just think it will be difficult for Hillsboro to beat McClain three times in one season. McClain is playing at a different level, now. Good luck to both teams.

Stumblebum
02-21-2010, 04:55 PM
And, Stormin' Norman works his magic again, as Oak Hill downs Waverly 42 - 34.

Apparently I misread the February 20 scores on this board. Oak Hill apparently beat WHEELERSBURG, not Waverly. I apologize for that error. But, if you read the Feb. 20 scores that are posted, it DOES say Waverly.

da boro_08
02-21-2010, 07:05 PM
No I think your right..Oak Hill played at Waverly last night..But the Martin kid for Waverly didnt play..he hurt his ankle I believe..

Stumblebum
02-21-2010, 07:13 PM
No I think your right..Oak Hill played at Waverly last night..But the Martin kid for Waverly didnt play..he hurt his ankle I believe..

If that's the case, Oak Hill beat Wheelersburg Friday night and Waverly Saturday night by almost identical scores. Unbelievable! But, thanks for straightening me out.

iknownothing
02-21-2010, 08:18 PM
IUFAN- hillsboro didn't beat wch by 20 this year... about 8 or 9 and wch led through the 3rd... get your fishing story straight...

h8rsevrywhr
02-22-2010, 12:23 AM
Hillsboro actually won by 11, but who cares. It doesnt matter if you win by 1 or 100. From now on winner moves on, loser starts baseball season.

IUFAN22
02-22-2010, 06:38 AM
IUFAN- hillsboro didn't beat wch by 20 this year... about 8 or 9 and wch led through the 3rd... get your fishing story straight...

Sorry! I must have been Listening to Greenfield whip WCH on the Radio when I made that statement. I must have been confused. My Apologies.

Otter40
02-22-2010, 08:19 AM
Both of you are wrong. Hillsboro beat Court House 76-63 in the first meeting. WCH hit a three at the buzzer to get it to 13.

bucks4ever&ever
02-22-2010, 10:20 AM
Wash C.H. had the best record and deserved the best seed- however, I doubt anyone is scared to play them- they are not nearly as good as thier record- Hillsboro and Greenfield are both better teams and have both beat them- and they will both beat them again if they would run into each other!

The news in this sectional is how lucky is Jackson and Chillicothe? Waverly has lost thier leading scorer and the secret around Waverly is that he may not be ready for a couple of weeks- I honestly dont know if they can win one game without him. His ankle is a mess! ugly! he cant even put pressure on it!

It is a real shame- if Waverly could have won thier first game it would have been nice to see a matchup between Waverly and Chillicothe, with both teams at full strength. Waverly is not very deep- and you take away Martin and the Tigers are 0-3 without him.

If i had to guess i got Chilly and McClain or Hillsboro going to the convo. Wash C.H. has little to no chance.

ironman92
02-22-2010, 05:14 PM
Don't even show up Shaffer!

Stumblebum
02-22-2010, 07:23 PM
"Don't even show up Shaffer!"

I think that is the one thing everybody is overlooking. Coach Shaffer has won well over 600 varsity games, mostly at WCH. I don't think they have enough size to go too far in the tournaments. But, to say they have "little to no chance" in the Sectional, is not giving them their just due. After all, they are (what?) 16 - 2? It's a wide open tournament. Almost everybody has a chance - including the number one seed.

blue_lion_too
02-22-2010, 08:43 PM
Don't even show up Shaffer!

I do believe he was being ironical :) (sarcastic)

ironman92
02-22-2010, 09:43 PM
I'm going to have to learn to use those smiley face thingies.

dlv1957
02-23-2010, 02:15 AM
bucks4ever: I believe Court House beat Greenfield and
Hillsboro also. It's a 2 game series between the schools, remember? Court House will beat either of them in the tourney.

Stumblebum
02-23-2010, 03:09 AM
I do believe he was being ironical :) (sarcastic)

I knew he was. I just added my comments to agree with him.

Otter40
02-23-2010, 08:20 AM
To say WCH doesn't have a chance to advance is crazy. Not sure what that guy has been watching.

As far as the Greenfield/Hillsboro game goes, I'll be interested to see if Greenfield is allowed to play their physical style of defense. I'm not sure how, but they get away with more handchecking than any school I've ever seen. And I don't want to hear the Nation complaining because everyone knows that the Tigers get away with it more times than not. To their credit, they've done it for years and won a ton of games. However, if they get a crew that calls a tight game, they could be in trouble. Greenfield doesn't have anyone that can take over a game. Polley isn't the player he was. When I look at their team, I see mostly catch and shoot guys.

I don't think they matchup well with Hillsboro, and wouldn't be surprised if they sat in a zone most of the time. As far as the coaching goes, I like the fact that Coach Davis has been to the District Finals. What has Eaton proven?

IndianGOLD
02-23-2010, 10:50 AM
what day is the wch vs hills game? after they put a whoppin on mcclain for the 3rd time this year.

Stumblebum
02-23-2010, 05:22 PM
Did M-T beat Circleville? Or, did Circleville beat M-T?

Otter40
02-23-2010, 06:07 PM
Miami Trace 59 Circleville 52

Stumblebum
02-23-2010, 07:08 PM
Miami Trace 59 Circleville 52

Thanks. I thought it might be a scoreless tie.

Otter40
02-24-2010, 09:12 AM
Score predictions on Miami Trace/WCH and Hillsboro/Greenfield?

WCH 62 Miami Trace 54
Hillsboro 54 Greenfield 53

Stumblebum
02-24-2010, 09:43 AM
I won't make predictions, because they are really just guesses. But, the WCH/M-T game COULD be a little closer than you predict, and the McClain/Hillsboro game COULD have a different outcome. But, flipping a coin would be just as scientific and just as accurate. There are so many variables, like somebody getting an injury, etc. Any of those things can change the outcome of a very close game. Good luck to all four of the teams who play tonight. Did Whiteoak succeed in beating Fairfield for the third time this season? I haven't heard that score.

TopRoe
02-24-2010, 11:03 AM
Leesburg defeated Whiteoak 49 - 44.

tugnut
02-24-2010, 12:57 PM
My perdictions

WCH 54 - MT 48
McClain 62 - Hillsboro 56

ironman92
02-24-2010, 03:51 PM
I'll GUESS:

WCH by 14
Hillsboro by 9

Otter40
02-24-2010, 09:56 PM
Hillsboro 50 Greenfield 36

WCH 52 Miami Trace 45

h8rsevrywhr
02-24-2010, 11:22 PM
Dont want to hear the Nation complaining about officiating. They definetly got more than their share of calls, at least for 3 quarters.

IUFAN22
02-25-2010, 06:41 AM
I guess the whole, beating a team 3 times in 1 year stuff, will come to an end! Huddle will be pretty quite without the "Greenfield Nation" on here. See ya next year!!

Otter40
02-25-2010, 07:50 AM
The officials in this game basically said "no blood, no foul." What a physical contest this was. Greenfield led 22-13 at halftime. They took it to the Indians in the second quarter. After the break, Hillsboro turned up the pressure big time. Greenfield didn't handle it well. You have to give a ton of credit to the Hogsett boy, he played his heart out! Also, Colt Coates stepped up huge knocking down big three's. Steagall showed up in the second half as well. Great win for the Indians. It's always nice to beat Greenfield, but in the tournament it's a little sweeter. Now we get to see the rematch of last years Sectional Final. Should be an entertaining game.

steelerfan
02-25-2010, 10:00 AM
Congats to Miami Trace they showed up and gave WCH all they wanted last night, bunny shots and foul shooting cost them the game. Almost a huge upset, but not quite

da boro_08
02-25-2010, 11:43 AM
Congats to Miami Trace they showed up and gave WCH all they wanted last night, bunny shots and foul shooting cost them the game. Almost a huge upset, but not quite

I agree. If Miami Trace could make a 5 footer, they win. Also, for what I felt was a very physical game, it amazes me that at one point it was 8-0 in fouls then 9-1 in favor of Court House. But at any rate, great effort Trace.

Otter40
02-25-2010, 04:24 PM
Stumble, did you go to the battle royale last night? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

IUFAN22
02-25-2010, 04:44 PM
Stumble's Ticker might not have made it last night. That game was pretty intence. I'm sure he was there, he wouldnt miss that game for nothing. I would love to hear what he thought about it too.

tugnut
02-25-2010, 10:02 PM
Congrats to Hillsboro and WCH

Stumblebum
02-26-2010, 03:46 AM
What is there to say? M-T put up a great battle against WCH, but they are among the worst shooting teams I have ever seen. They only had two players who could hit the bankboard from 12 feet. Their coach deserves a reward.

McClain played well for a half, but seemed to wear down. They were not there at all in the fourth. The Coates kid may have been the best player on the court - and, someone from Greenfield said earlier that "he did not figure in their plans." How could anyone say that?

I saw something out of the McClain coach that has absolutely no place in high school sports - EVER. Don't say anything to me about Eaton. I've seen his act. It stinks.

I'll be in the Convo next week, and the week after.

IUFAN22
02-26-2010, 06:54 AM
What is there to say? M-T put up a great battle against WCH, but they are among the worst shooting teams I have ever seen. They only had two players who could hit the bankboard from 12 feet. Their coach deserves a reward.

McClain played well for a half, but seemed to wear down. They were not there at all in the fourth. The Coates kid may have been the best player on the court - and, someone from Greenfield said earlier that "he did not figure in their plans." How could anyone say that?

I saw something out of the McClain coach that has absolutely no place in high school sports - EVER. Don't say anything to me about Eaton. I've seen his act. It stinks.

I'll be in the Convo next week, and the week after.

If Greenfield wasnt worried about colt,well, that figures. He only avg. 12-13 pts a game this year. Look for MT to be a pretty good team next year. They dont lose anyone and they were getting better at the end of the year. Stumble, if your going to the Convo, im riding Shot-Gun,,,its a long ride!!

tugnut
02-26-2010, 09:06 AM
What is there to say? M-T put up a great battle against WCH, but they are among the worst shooting teams I have ever seen. They only had two players who could hit the bankboard from 12 feet. Their coach deserves a reward.

McClain played well for a half, but seemed to wear down. They were not there at all in the fourth. The Coates kid may have been the best player on the court - and, someone from Greenfield said earlier that "he did not figure in their plans." How could anyone say that?

I saw something out of the McClain coach that has absolutely no place in high school sports - EVER. Don't say anything to me about Eaton. I've seen his act. It stinks.

I'll be in the Convo next week, and the week after.


I said he didnt fit in Van Matres system and that is why he decied to transfer, andthat is the truth. I dont think any person said he was a horrible player.

da boro_08
02-26-2010, 10:43 AM
I could see why Coach V would not have been a fan of his. As great a scorer he is, he refuses to guard anybody. I swear you would think 3 years at Greenfield he would have learned some defense. Not sayin he not a great player, or great kid, but anybody who disagrees has not watched Hillsboro much this year. Still, I'm sure Greenfield would rather have had him in purple this year.

Stumblebum
02-26-2010, 04:07 PM
If Greenfield wasnt worried about colt,well, that figures. He only avg. 12-13 pts a game this year. Look for MT to be a pretty good team next year. They dont lose anyone and they were getting better at the end of the year. Stumble, if your going to the Convo, im riding Shot-Gun,,,its a long ride!!

It's a long ride, that's for sure. But, we kind of make a day of it. Kind of look forward to it. There's some great food at Athens. I usually partake of a little of THAT, too.

Stumblebum
02-26-2010, 07:02 PM
Nobody has said a WORD about WCH vs Hillsboro. Is there no interest in this game? Or, are you all afraid you'll jinx one of the teams? I think it could be a great game.

h8rsevrywhr
02-26-2010, 07:32 PM
So what did coach Eaton do that has soured you. I saw him arguing with a parent after the game, Im assuming about someones little boy not playing enough. Not even the right time for a parent to do that, but I didnt notice coach Eaton doing anything that terrible then. Grant it I probably didnt hear the whole discussion. Please enlighten us.
Also, Indians by 8 or 9.

Stumblebum
02-26-2010, 07:48 PM
I don't want to discuss it, but, if it had been my kid it would have taken 4 or 5 people to keep me away from him. That's the end of if as far as I am concerned. But, I'll never be a fan of his.

Stumblebum
02-26-2010, 07:53 PM
Question - back about 1971 or so, Miami Trace's head Basketball coach was Jan Stauffer. Now their head coach is Jon Stauffer. Is he the son of the former coach? And, would the gray-headed man on their bench possibly be his father? My observation was that M -T was a well-coached team, but they couldn't throw a rock in the ocean. They would MISS it.

IUFAN22
02-26-2010, 07:54 PM
Waverly 45 Chillicothe 43. Congratulations to the Tigers. I didnt think they could pull it off. I would have lost that bet. Im glad to finally see them get to the Convo.

IndianGOLD
02-26-2010, 08:05 PM
Hillsboro 58 wch 56 should be a great championship game can't wait. I just hope Hillsboro fulls there side of the gym up. GO INDIANS!!

Stumblebum
02-27-2010, 04:31 AM
Waverly 45 Chillicothe 43. Congratulations to the Tigers. I didnt think they could pull it off. I would have lost that bet. Im glad to finally see them get to the Convo.

I'm happy for them, too. With Martin not being at 100% I had my doubts that they could pull it off. But, they did and I wish them well the rest of the way. I'll see them play in the Convo.

Baseball practice at Chilly begins Monday, if they can get all the snow off the diamond.

Stumblebum
02-27-2010, 04:38 AM
Peebles was supposed to play last night. Did anybody hear what they did? And, Wheelersburg eliminated Oak Hill, last year's Div. 4 State Champion. Sorry to hear that. I looked forward to seeing the Oaks at the Convo. And, before someone says something - I know this is a Div. 2 thread. The Devil made me do it.

Otter40
02-27-2010, 07:29 AM
Peebles won by 25 vs North Adams. As far as the WCH/Hillsboro game, If the Indians don't get a lead, the Blue Lions will sit in their 1-3-1. It gave them problems in the game at Court House. I think Carrol needs to have a nice game tonight. If Steagal or Coates doesn't get it going, Carrol will need to pick up the slack.

I think the key to beating Court House is shutting down Stringfield. Sloan and Shaw are great, but Matt is the motor for that team. What happens if someone for either teams gets in foul trouble? Who's bench do you trust more?

This game will be decided in the final minute. I'll take the Boro by 3.

Otter40
02-27-2010, 07:33 AM
Great win for the Waverly Tigers. Congrats to Coach Robertson. Good luck against Logan Elm.

Winner of Hillsboro/WCH will play Warren. They beat 19-1 Athens at the buzzer in Logan last night. Cunningham for Warren is a PLAYER!

Stumblebum
02-27-2010, 08:12 AM
"Peebles won by 25 vs North Adams."

Unless my memory has COMPLETELY failed, Peebles will now have the honor of facing (1) Portsmouth and (2) Ironton. If the Indians beat both of them, I will believe they're for real. I wish them good luck.

iknownothing
02-27-2010, 08:17 AM
Portsmouth got beat by Lucasville Valley by 1/

iknownothing
02-27-2010, 08:22 AM
Well just one game left in this Sectional. Should be a good one! Coach Davis and the Indians vs. Coach Shaffer and the Lions. This will be the 6th time these two teams have played in the last two season. Hillsboro holding a 3-2 edge in the series. Very evenly matched teams IMO. The key will be D and rebounding. Both teams can get hot, both teams have 3 players that you have to account for and both have solid post players. Should be worth the price of admission!

iknownothing
02-27-2010, 08:29 AM
Stumble- the gray haired guy on the MT bench is Santa Claus.

bucks4ever&ever
02-27-2010, 09:03 AM
Waverly lined up and played Chillicothe man to man and took it at thier press and beat the Cavs. Waverly guards (Kelly and Johnston)played a great floor game and the bigs (Kretzer, Martin and Roback) played big inside and great contribution off the bench (Malone and Remy). Waverly held Turner to 7 and London to 2- and got big points from Kretzer (20) as they head to the convo.

tugnut
02-27-2010, 09:40 AM
Congrats to Waverly

Stumblebum
02-27-2010, 11:26 AM
Portsmouth got beat by Lucasville Valley by 1/

Unbelievable. I think Peebles might have a shot to beat Valley. I'm not saying they WILL beat them, but, they have a shot.

Stumblebum
02-27-2010, 11:29 AM
Stumble- the gray haired guy on the MT bench is Santa Claus.

Well, he gave M - T a ROCK Wednesday night.

Stumblebum
02-27-2010, 11:33 AM
Waverly lined up and played Chillicothe man to man and took it at thier press and beat the Cavs. Waverly guards (Kelly and Johnston)played a great floor game and the bigs (Kretzer, Martin and Roback) played big inside and great contribution off the bench (Malone and Remy). Waverly held Turner to 7 and London to 2- and got big points from Kretzer (20) as they head to the convo.

I would have lost the RENT check on that one. Of course, the Chillicothe worshippers will say the officials cheated them, won't they?

IUFAN22
02-27-2010, 02:12 PM
I would have lost the RENT check on that one. Of course, the Chillicothe worshippers will say the officials cheated them, won't they?

You and I both. I gave Waverly about a 40% chance of winning. If they played Waverly 10 times this year I would believe they would have won more than they lost, but Waverly is going to the Convo and Chilly is going home!

Otter40
02-27-2010, 02:20 PM
Jerry's Pizza anyone?

Stumblebum
02-27-2010, 02:55 PM
Jerry's Pizza anyone?

Might not be safe, tonight (especially, if you wear your orange and black jacket).

Stumblebum
02-27-2010, 07:29 PM
WCH - 58 -- Hillsboro - 41

Indians shot 30% from the field and hit 6 of 14 from the line. They had nobody in double figures. WCH hit 51% from the field & their 1 - 3 - 1 zone befuddled Hillsboro.

Congratulations to the Blue Lions and good luck at Athens. Don't let the size of the Convo intimidate you.

tugnut
02-27-2010, 08:46 PM
Congrats to WCH

Otter40
02-28-2010, 07:36 AM
58-41 Court House. Extremely disappointing end to the season for the Indians. Good luck WCH at the convo.

fizz
02-28-2010, 08:47 AM
So it's:
Logan Elm vs.Waverly
Washington Court House vs.Warren Local

Anyone have records of these teams ?
Thanks in advance for any info

LionScout
02-28-2010, 09:58 AM
Not exactly sure but these are close. Logan Elm 20-2. Waverly 17-5. WCH 20-2. Warren 19-3. Pretty positive on LE and WCH. Not positive on Waverly and Warren.

IUFAN22
02-28-2010, 03:05 PM
WCH played a great game. Their 1-3-1 was too much for Hillsboro. The Indians never had an answer for it. Stringfield and Shaw was held in check, but Sloan repeatedly took Carrol to the basket and ended up with 25. I am rooting for WCH to represent the SCOL and beat Warren. Good Luck!!

Stumblebum
02-28-2010, 04:24 PM
WCH played a great game. Their 1-3-1 was too much for Hillsboro. The Indians never had an answer for it. Stringfield and Shaw was held in check, but Sloan repeatedly took Carrol to the basket and ended up with 25. I am rooting for WCH to represent the SCOL and beat Warren. Good Luck!!

I'm with you on that one. WCH's strategy worked out. The 1 - 3 -1 was effective, and Slone was unstoppable. I'm for WCH over Warren.

eyeonthetigers
02-28-2010, 11:01 PM
I feel the SCOL didn't have a standout team and it was hard to say how good each team was. The competition is getting stronger now. I look for this to be WCH's last game

muddlehuddle
02-28-2010, 11:55 PM
Yeah 20-2 not very standout.....lol

Stumblebum
03-01-2010, 03:57 AM
Yeah 20-2 not very standout.....lol

I agree. There's not a team in SW (or SE) Ohio that wouldn't settle for a 20 - 2 season. I've never been a WCH fan. But, let's give credit where credit is due. They had a fabulous season. I think they will give Warren all they want. They may even beat them. They're the best team in this area. Look at their record. Shaffer did a great job with this group.

eyeonthetigers
03-01-2010, 09:28 AM
I agree. There's not a team in SW (or SE) Ohio that wouldn't settle for a 20 - 2 season. I've never been a WCH fan. But, let's give credit where credit is due. They had a fabulous season. I think they will give Warren all they want. They may even beat them. They're the best team in this area. Look at their record. Shaffer did a great job with this group.

I didn't say Shaffer didn't do a good job with his team. He is a good coach and has records to prove it. 20-2 is a fine record but look back and see how that came about. 1 game lost was given back to them due to a paper mistake. There are 3 teams in the SCOL that were pretty weak and inconsistant. Just because a team wins doesn't make them a standout. Stiff competition shows what they are made of.

Otter40
03-01-2010, 09:48 AM
I predict WCH will beat Warren. The game I saw, Warren struggled against a 2-3 zone all night. The Cunningham kid was the only one that could stretch the defense. However, they are a physical team, with some athletic guys. They did beat Chilly without their best player. I'm sure Court House will run their 1-3-1. I can see it giving Warren problems.

In the other matchup, Waverly will have to play their best to beat Stiverson the Great. Logan Elm handled them pretty good on opening night. I know Waverly has improved since then, but so has the Braves. I hope I can find someone to ride with to Athens. Stumble, you got room?