Football coach tells kids to choose Bowling or Football

[O2man958]

Maysville High School football coach told his football players that are on the bowling team to choose either bowling or football. He told them that if they continued to be on the bowling team that they would not step foot on his football field. What does everyone think of that ? Do you think he is over stepping his boundaries ?

[oumet365]

Does this happen to the basketball players and wrestlers too?

I don't think a coach should be able to pull things like that when the sport seasons do not overlap. If a player is trying to play soccer and football (two fall sports) I get it, but when it's a fall sport and a winter sport the coach is completely out of line.

[Verbal Kint]

Unfortunately, this does not surprise me.

Let kids be kids!

[crod11]

thats really stupid let them do whatever they want

[O-ville22]

If a player is trying to play soccer and football (two fall sports) I get it, but when it's a fall sport and a winter sport the coach is completely out of line.[/QUOTE]

we had two of our soccer players play football, but they were both kickers. so it made sense why they would only go to football practice to kick. on fridays, only the varsity kicker would not go to soccer, and the other would go to soccer and get with the team after

[dwe]

i hate to hear coaches comments like that

[gowolves4ever]

The coach should be fired, or at least reprimanded. Unfortunately I hear this happening across all sports. My guess is this coach is one of those who doesn't think bowling is a sport. On our team, of our top 5 varisty bowlers, 3 played football (1 heading to College to play), and 1 is an elite soccer player.

[O2man958]

gowolves4ever, I believe you are right about the coach saying that bowling is not a sport. I heard that the New Lex coach also told his boys that bowling is not a sport. Seems funny that when I look in the dictionary under sport, here is what I find.

Sport
–noun 1. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

I'm guessing the Maysville boys will stick with bowling , since they have had 2 matches and already have 2 more wins than the football team had all year.

[sportznutzohio]

Maysville High School football coach told his football players that are on the bowling team to choose either bowling or football. He told them that if they continued to be on the bowling team that they would not step foot on his football field. What does everyone think of that ? Do you think he is over stepping his boundaries ?


MAYSVILLE.. guys... at 0-10 this past season.. I think I rather be bowling than playing for that coaching staff..


8/22 H Heath (7-3) [5:19] L 20-62
8/29 H Sheridan (10-0) [3:12] L 7-54
9/5 A Tri-Valley (7-3) [2:7] L 7-27
9/12 H John Glenn (6-4) [3:11] L 3-34
9/19 A New Lexington (9-1) [4:15] L 0-35
9/26 H Philo (3-7) [3:11] L 14-17
10/3 A Morgan (1-9) [3:11] L 14-21
10/10 A Coshocton (9-1) [4:13] L 14-34
10/17 H Crooksville (6-4) [5:19] L 7-14
10/24 A West Muskingum (4-

[shlep]

team went 0-10. coach prolly has a lifting/conditioning program in place for winter. he doesnt want guys using bowling as an excuse to miss lifting/conditioning. hes prolly right. hoops gives you conditioning and endurance and coordination. wrestling gives you strength and agility. what does bowling do for you? i mean, what kind of conditioning and lifting do bowlers do? i think maybe too many football players bowling last year might of had something to do with 0-10.

[sportznutzohio]

. what does bowling do for you? i mean, what kind of conditioning and lifting do bowlers do? i think maybe too many football players bowling last year might of had something to do with 0-10.

Shelpie!!.. what does bowling do for me!..
SHOW ME THE MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$$

I played High school football.. all league.. special mention all district..3year starter. High school baseball.. 4 year 2 sport player..
.
During my senior year.. back in the glory days.. bowled a 299 on a thursday night during league and played football friday night 10 tackles and a INT if i do recall.. WHAT A EFFN WEEK!! !!! Now what did football do for me.. plently.. solid goals.. team work!! strength...

What has bowling done for me over the years!! MADE ME LOTS and LOTS OF MONEY REAL MONEY!! Meet hundreds and hundreds of great people.. and make thousands and thousands of dollars each year..
FACT! and if any of young Zanesville players reading this forum or younger kids know a 2 certain 2 time PBA Winner . Ted Hannas a friend of mine.. We make lots of $$ BOWLING Worked my hustle today for +550 not a bad day's work..Now shelptie..:eek: I know it takes you all week to make $250 at that Maysville McDonalds.. and you got's to pay the IRS!!!
I make that BOWLING NOT FOOTBALL and unless your Buster Howell.. your NOT going to the NFL.. OH.. Buster .. Busted!!

Now Coach probely.. probley isn't strong enough to carry the bowlers Bowling balls, and has to have them hit weights... and if he was smart he'd get with the bowling coach and get some pointers.. Now if he came to my center.. we bowl em.. and then head to back of lanes and WORK OUT!! .. Coach probley is a great coach. 0-10 last year.. 1-9 with that demanding off season weight training..


bets are your football team goes 1-9 with that solid off season weight lifting program!! If the player want to play football and bowl.. Coaches should work with them.. If they are making excusing not to hits the weights you won't even go 1-9 next year.

Oh conditioning..!!! come with me.. for a weekend sometime.. and Bowl
8-10 games on a saturday and 8-10 more on sunday.. and we'll see
who's sore.. by the end of the day your back and knee's and arm will hurt so bad you'll quit...

Oh on our high school bowling team we have soccer players, football players, baseball players, cheerleaders, golf players.. Soccer team. Girls district semi's.. Boys district quarters, football team 8 times in a ROW.. playoffs.. 8-3.. COACH PROBLEY , baseball team won 15 games last year and is stacked again.. don't give me no crap.. Athletes are athletes..and
shelpie..plays.. Guard, End and Tackle!!! Guard the water..Sit on the end of bench.. and Try and Tackle anybody that want's some.. 0-10!!!!

[shlep]

winning sidebets in a weekend league is not really making money.

if u would lift and condition ur shoulder and back wouldnt hurt so much. also why would u do a sport that only works two muscle groups?

i still think the fb coach is right. dudes were using bowling as an excuse to miss lifting and conditioning. coach says no more of that. good for him.

[Patt68]

Roy Munson? or are you Big Ern?

[sportznutzohio]

winning sidebets in a weekend league is not really making money.

if u would lift and condition ur shoulder and back wouldnt hurt so much. also why would u do a sport that only works two muscle groups?

i still think the fb coach is right. dudes were using bowling as an excuse to miss lifting and conditioning. coach says no more of that. good for him.

GOOD FOR HIM.. WHAT... Another Stupid coach losing talented
Athletes because HE or SHE can't share athletes.. STUPID.STUPID.

now sheltie :eek:.. you don't get do you.. THOUSANDS Of DOLLARS.. not that 6.25 a hour you make... . THOUSANDS!!!! 3 ZEROS.... $1000 $2000... and that not no league.. that's against former and current PROFESSIONALS!


now if YOUR STUD FOOTBALL players was using bowling as and EXCUSE to miss a weight lifting practice no wonder YOUR 0-10... NO STUDS over THERE.. they need to lift to carry the bowlers bags to car!!!
Muscle groups.. your fingers aren't muscle groups.. It's far more demanding than you'll ever know..

BTW: I'm sure I made more money last year bowling than your football
coach got paid for the Coaching part of his $alary.. and after another 0-10 season.. It will be ALOT MORE!!!!!!!!!

ALSO.. YOUR AD.. should be CANNED for hiring such a nuckle head..
supposed you played for that 0-10 club..

[sportznutzohio]

Roy Munson? or are you Big Ern?

Shelti's a munson!!!!

Big ern.. couldn't carry my bags to the car!!!

who am I.. I'm the guy coming to your town and taking your money!!!!!!!

[1_draft_pick]

First, to say bowling is not a sport is wrong- it is. I have bowled since I was 8 and it is not easy to do game in and game out week in and week out.

I am a coach, a football coach and I do believe that this or any other football coach is in the right if those kids are not lifting at all, lifting a bowling ball does not cut it. They can lift at least 2x a week doing their core lifts-minimum. However, if these players are doing what is expected of them - lifting for the football team and still participating in their winter sport then the coach is completely wrong.

One reason why they don't win is more than likely they are not in the weight room getting Bigger, Faster, and Stronger.

[Pavingtheway]

The kids need to be at lifting for football. Maybe the coaches could work together to figure out a schedule so the kids aren't forced to choose

[Zanesvegas]

I happen to know this coach. It does not surprise me that he's putting his foot down (nor the coach at New Lexington). While I do not wholeheartedly agree with him on this one (his protege' at ZHS scheduled Saturday morning sessions for "other sport" athletes, knowing he'd be getting them full-time soon), I do think it is his prerogative to make such a rule. A few reasons why:

1. He (and his staff) inherited a bad program. Not a reflection on the previous coach, mind you -- Maysville has never been to the playoffs and can claim only one Muskingum Valley League football title (shared) in school history. "Football" and "tradition" don't go in the same sentence over there.

2. He was hired to win football games. Don't give me the philosophies. That's his job. He's trying to change a culture. If he feels this is necessary, that's his choice.

3. This is not a "new" thing for him. I once saw him demote an outstanding football player to "last string" at the start of two-a-days because that player opted to go with his Babe Ruth all-star team to the BR World Series one summer -- which overlapped. The kid understood his options, chose one of them, and then worked his tail off to get back to where he wanted to be on the football team.

4. My understanding is the bowling coach may be as hard-nosed (or more) than this football coach (which would be the definition of hard-nosed then). I would be willing to bet there wouldn't be much "give" in either of them. So be it.

5. If these boys chose bowling over football, good for them. That's THEIR choice, knowing full well the consequences otherwise. Look -- NEITHER of these sports is a RIGHT. However, the coaches do have a right to set the parameters of participation. If the football coach believes those kids have to be there to participate, that's just the way it goes.

I do wonder, however, if there was any discussion with the football coach to find a common ground.

[TheWhiteRock]

Do these kids realize that they can play golf, bowl and dance the polka well into their eighties?

[1_draft_pick]

do bowlers practice and if so how often?

[Lancer '65]

We must be the exception to the rule, but at our season ending athletic banquets, we encourage our kids to go out for a sport that they may have never tried. They only get one chance to be a kid and they should take complete advantage of it. We would much prefer that a kid participate in a school sponsored sport than have them ask us if he or she can just take the season to get ready for our next season. We really like to see three sport athletes. Participation is the name of the game. By the way, our records over the years are alright. It hasn't hurt us one bit. Afterall, we don't own the kids.

[Zanesvegas]

We bowled Maysville twice, on Dec. 15 and Feb. 3. According to our school's bowling Web site, there were 12 boys who bowled either varsity or JV in the first match. In the second match, one name was missing (varsity on 12/15), but there were two new ones. Both of those bowled in the varsity match on 2/3.

Checking the Maysville football roster posted on our local paper's Web site, the boy who wasn't there the second match is indeed a football player (senior next year, lineman). There are four other bowlers on the football roster, all underclassmen, including a couple of "bigguns" who any football coach would probably prefer to be hoisting iron. But they're still bowling.

Our team lost two bowlers who simply decided they'd be better off hitting the weights, so they left the team. But we still have four other underclass football players who remain, as well as four baseball players who try to fit in workouts where possible.

Sounds like much a-do 'bout nuttin' to me ....

[gopryorgo]

Shelpie!!.. what does bowling do for me!..
SHOW ME THE MONEY$$$$$$$$$$$$

I played High school football.. all league.. special mention all district..3year starter. High school baseball.. 4 year 2 sport player..
.
During my senior year.. back in the glory days.. bowled a 299 on a thursday night during league and played football friday night 10 tackles and a INT if i do recall.. WHAT A EFFN WEEK!! !!! Now what did football do for me.. plently.. solid goals.. team work!! strength...

What has bowling done for me over the years!! MADE ME LOTS and LOTS OF MONEY REAL MONEY!! Meet hundreds and hundreds of great people.. and make thousands and thousands of dollars each year..
FACT! and if any of young Zanesville players reading this forum or younger kids know a 2 certain 2 time PBA Winner . Ted Hannas a friend of mine.. We make lots of $$ BOWLING Worked my hustle today for +550 not a bad day's work..Now shelptie..:eek: I know it takes you all week to make $250 at that Maysville McDonalds.. and you got's to pay the IRS!!!
I make that BOWLING NOT FOOTBALL and unless your Buster Howell.. your NOT going to the NFL.. OH.. Buster .. Busted!!

Now Coach probely.. probley isn't strong enough to carry the bowlers Bowling balls, and has to have them hit weights... and if he was smart he'd get with the bowling coach and get some pointers.. Now if he came to my center.. we bowl em.. and then head to back of lanes and WORK OUT!! .. Coach probley is a great coach. 0-10 last year.. 1-9 with that demanding off season weight training..


bets are your football team goes 1-9 with that solid off season weight lifting program!! If the player want to play football and bowl.. Coaches should work with them.. If they are making excusing not to hits the weights you won't even go 1-9 next year.

Oh conditioning..!!! come with me.. for a weekend sometime.. and Bowl
8-10 games on a saturday and 8-10 more on sunday.. and we'll see
who's sore.. by the end of the day your back and knee's and arm will hurt so bad you'll quit...

Oh on our high school bowling team we have soccer players, football players, baseball players, cheerleaders, golf players.. Soccer team. Girls district semi's.. Boys district quarters, football team 8 times in a ROW.. playoffs.. 8-3.. COACH PROBLEY , baseball team won 15 games last year and is stacked again.. don't give me no crap.. Athletes are athletes..and
shelpie..plays.. Guard, End and Tackle!!! Guard the water..Sit on the end of bench.. and Try and Tackle anybody that want's some.. 0-10!!!!

I bet you were pissed. 299?!?! What a kick to the groin.

[ljte09]

football don't even overlap with bowling, what's this coach problem, with an 0-10 football team, sounds like they need a new football coach

[pcell619]

I am a varsity bowler and I have been getting pressured to go to baseball workouts but our practices are on the same days.

My cousins are bowlers at a different school and their baseball coach made them quit for conditioning. I guess they can do that because it is not a varsity sport at their school

[Zanesvegas]

ljte09 ... he is a new football coach. He's there because the school has a history of going 0-10 ... and he does not.

pcell619 ... four of our eight tournament team members are also baseball players, so I understand what you mean. But we just have to "roll with it" -- ;) -- until such time as they're freed up.

[Urbanaite]

this is a ridiculous fight.... if your a football player you should be lifting, playing basketball or wrestling, because those things can actually help with football

[Zanesvegas]

If you have no interest in basketball or wrestling, why SHOULD you do that instead of bowling? Lifting could be arranged at other times, such as before school. Many programs do that.

I think the crux of this argument is whether the coach of another sport can/should "threaten" an athlete who wishes to participate in another sport, and especially one that is sanctioned by the OHSAA. Let's also remember that this is the first year for bowling at Maysville, so the mere existence of a bowling team is going to take some getting used to as "legitimate."

I think Coach Parks has a right to tell kids that they're jeopardizing their playing time if they're not working out. And I also think the kid has the right to make the decision either way, on his own.

[chsbowlingnut]

I think part of it just depends on how much the kid can handle. Chillicothe has a bowler who plays football, soccer, and also bowls, and he is doing great at all 3. He managed to keep somewhere between a 185 and 190 average in bowling this year, has been going to college kicking camps for football for the past year, and has played in soccer tournaments all over the country. All of that as a junior. So its really a combination of coaches' willingness to cooperate with each other's schedules, and the kid's ability to keep up with multiple practice and game schedules without letting them interfere too much with each other. Some people can handle it.

[nap_fb09]

I am senior at Napoleon high school. I play football and bowl. I talked to my coach at the start of the season and told him about my bowling and what was going on with that, and how i made it to Nationals in Detroit. He was very understanding and didnt have a problem with anything. I would practice 2 times a week during the football season, and would do lighter lifting on days that i bowled. We worked with each other and everything worked out. I owe him cuz Napoleon is going to STATE for bowling..GO WILDCATS

[paintthefield]

Just a note about "nap_fb09" I guess you can play football - lift weights - and prepare for a successful bowling season. He finished 5th at state!
Congrats - Nap

[Christopher]

i still think the fb coach is right. dudes were using bowling as an excuse to miss lifting and conditioning. coach says no more of that. good for him.

Seems to me as if you have just made the best argument in favor of the bowlers. It is not the fact that the sport is overly demanding or conflicts in scheduling. It was the lack of character of certain individuals who decided to use one activity to get out of another.

That is a whole different argument and one that is centered more on the lack of character of the coach to address that issue through roster position, play time, or starts, and not the fault of the other sport.

[greymare]

I may be missing something here but if this coach is making attendance mandatory he may have some problems. Last time I checked it is against OHSAA rules to make any off these out of season sessions mandatory.

[e_lee]

We encourage our kids to play more than one sport. Not even exaggerating but of our football roster at least 60% are 3 sport athletes, and close to 100% are in at least one other sport. If they don't do a winter sport, they run track for us as well. Granted we have a 4th block Advanced PE: Football/Weight Training in which we are able to get most of our football players who don't need an academic class at that time.

That being said, as a football coach, I would be livid if kids were bowling and not able to get their offseason lifting in.

Call me a jerk, but I don't respect bowling as a sport on the same level as football, basketball, wrestling, baseball, tennis, soccer etc.

[nsjd]

I assume the coach wants his athletes to be playing a sport that improves their football skills. I can't think of any thing about bowling that will help these athletes in any other sport.

If they are bowling instead of lifting weights and working out I can see his point.

[catamount]

Sometimes I think it is smart to sit back and let a 16, 17,18 year old kid make there own choices regarding athletics. If a kids elects to miss a work out to bowl or whatever than that child deals with the consequences later on, such as not becoming a starter or losing a starting job once the season comes around. Some kids are good enough athletes that it may not affect them, some are not. Good lessons to be learned regarding choice=consequence.

[mslteam]

i think if the kid is already bigger faster and stronger than the second stringer and keeps that role then who cares, let a high schooler be a kid for the short time of their childhood they have left. Im sure that more than likely these 0-10 football players arent going to get any looks for a D1 scholarship, and if you cant even get a D1 scholarship, youre 99% of the time not gunna make a professional team, take daniel ruettiger (aka rudy) for example the kid was probably the smallest weakest guy on the team but still is more famous than any of these kids will ever be. I'm not saying these kids are amazing bowlers but obviously they cant be any worse at bowling than they were at football

[nc_ou_alum]

the good ones spend as much time on their game as any other athlete.

[Bedford76]

this is a ridiculous fight.... if your a football player you should be lifting, playing basketball or wrestling, because those things can actually help with football


That's why God made 7 days in the week. As long as the kids can do their lifting 3-4 days/week, or however often it takes, why can't the football coach accomodate the student-athlete?

[armedforces]

Maysville High School football coach told his football players that are on the bowling team to choose either bowling or football. He told them that if they continued to be on the bowling team that they would not step foot on his football field. What does everyone think of that ? Do you think he is over stepping his boundaries ?

WOW...I am glad our kids go to Chillicothe City Schools.

Heck, we have Boys Basketball, Boys Wrestling, The Swimming and Diving Team and Bowling in the Winter, outside of lifting for Football.

This type of mandate would not fly in our Cavalier Program.

We try to help out all our kids get involved in 1 or more sports, and we accomdate for those that play multiple sports to have an alternate lifting program, concerning those that play football at Chillicothe.

[sacbunt]

Does the football coach realize it violates OHSAA rules to make any
off season conditioning program mandatory? The reason they have this rule is because of coaches like this.

[e_lee]

i think if the kid is already bigger faster and stronger than the second stringer and keeps that role then who cares, let a high schooler be a kid for the short time of their childhood they have left. Im sure that more than likely these 0-10 football players arent going to get any looks for a D1 scholarship, and if you cant even get a D1 scholarship, youre 99% of the time not gunna make a professional team, take daniel ruettiger (aka rudy) for example the kid was probably the smallest weakest guy on the team but still is more famous than any of these kids will ever be. I'm not saying these kids are amazing bowlers but obviously they cant be any worse at bowling than they were at football

I know nothin about Maysville, but I would think that the football team should have bigger goals than being "the best team in Maysville", which is all that is going to happen with that.

Also, Daniel Ruettiger was like 6'4 or 6'5 and 200+ pounds. I can gurantee you though he would not have bowled in the winter instead of lifting for football or playing hoops or wrestling.

[armedforces]

Does the football coach realize it violates OHSAA rules to make any
off season conditioning program mandatory? The reason they have this rule is because of coaches like this.

I have noticed this is an ever going trend since the 90's. When I was in H.S. in the early 70's I never remember a coach mandating anything about lifting or else. Many of us who played football, either played basketball or wrestled in the winter. Leaving only a few to lift as a group from our football team.

[DScarpitti]

that guys a big stinky doo doo head. the kids should be able to play if they want, not if the ..^~+..^~+..^~+..^~+..^~+..^~+..^~+ lets them

[Zanesvegas]

That coach, BTW, took an 0-10 team that hadn't been much better than that for a long, long time and drove them to 6-4 this year. IMO, he's one of the best HS football coaches I know. Meanwhile, the same bowling team qualified for State last year.

It all worked out.

[1iluvfootball]

Sounds like my kind of football coach. I know most people live in this delusional la,la land and dont realize what it takes to have a successful football program. First of all at most D1 college programs Football alone pays for all athletic scholarships for all sports. At Ohio State it pays all athletic and academic scholarships pays the bills and still clears 30 million. So if you kid gets a scholarship make sure they stop by and thank the FB team. At the High School level BB and FB pay the way for other sports. Football is War and you have to train year round. Believe me when they get to college they will tear your head off. Bench 450 Squat 850 and everybody's out for there job. Look at Basketball the majority of guys that make it are gym rats. Every now an then somebody can be multi sport. But they are very rare. I say two sports max and set a goal and go for it. Or just call me a you know what. Your just not going to have a winning program with the nice guy attidude. I like watching HS bowling and I think its a good sport. Hope nobody takes offense of my post and this is not a cut on hs bowling.

[Bedford76]

Sounds like my kind of football coach. I know most people live in this delusional la,la land and dont realize what it takes to have a successful football program. First of all at most D1 college programs Football alone pays for all athletic scholarships for all sports. At Ohio State it pays all athletic and academic scholarships pays the bills and still clears 30 million. So if you kid gets a scholarship make sure they stop by and thank the FB team. At the High School level BB and FB pay the way for other sports. Football is War and you have to train year round. Believe me when they get to college they will tear your head off. Bench 450 Squat 850 and everybody's out for there job. Look at Basketball the majority of guys that make it are gym rats. Every now an then somebody can be multi sport. But they are very rare. I say two sports max and set a goal and go for it. Or just call me a you know what. Your just not going to have a winning program with the nice guy attidude. I like watching HS bowling and I think its a good sport. Hope nobody takes offense of my post and this is not a cut on hs bowling.

I agree... with your comments about what it takes to build a high quality football program at the hs level. However, your contention that most D1 football programs make money, is way off. I could cite many articles from economists and educators, that show how many D1 programs GET SUBSIDIES in the form of increased student fees to pay for their football programs. The other big issue is how AD's at these schools REPORT profit and loss. They pay virtually ZERO for tens of millions of dollars of facilities, office space, equipment that isnt reported as expenses. The way AD's do their "budgeting and reporting'" for football programs would baffle the smartest economists and acountants. For every Ohio State their are many many, OU's BG's, Akrons, Northern Illinois, Temples, Rutgers, San Diego States, etc. who lose $ hand over fist on their football programs. Heck, Wisconsin WON the Rose Bowl in 1998, received a payout of $1.2 million, and LOST $278,000 on the trip. I would like a reputable accounting firm audit Ohio State's Football program, and we could REALLY see what they make.

[1iluvfootball]

I agree that not all D1 programs make the big bucks. I bet the smaller ones do all right though. Most of your bigger D1 programs play 3 or 4 smaller d1 teams a season and I think they can even play one D1aa a season. I am sure the TV rights for a Ohio State vs BG would still be a few million. 85 D1 scholarships are a big load to carry. Figure they are worth 250,000 a piece. On road trips the band hurts ya worst then the team does. On the Wisconsin team they probably had 100 players and staff for the team and 250 for the band and support. The Cincinnati vs WV game at Nippert. They didnt allow WV to bring the band like 400 seats just so they could sell the tickets. At the high school level normally the FB and BB will make the money and pay for all the other sports. As far as being a AD and spreading the money around so everybody can win it is a tough job. We'll I done running my fingers. Take care

[Zanesvegas]

I'd read where one year, when Marshall was in the MAC, they went to a bowl and LOST MONEY. Unless you're in the upper echelon of programs, it's a tough go financially.

Anyway ... Zanesville at Maysville tonight!

[NewarkCatholicFan]

That's just sad.
I would take my kid out of that school in a heartbeat.

On a side note I really like the bowling alley at Maysville.

[iced earth]

There is nothing about high school bowling that should keep a football player from being able to find 45 minutes, 4 times a week, to get in a decent weight training session.

No coach should ever tell any high school athlete they cannot participate in any other school activity off season. If the coach is truly concerned he should sit down with the players, see what their schedules look like, and help them organize their time to find room for the weight room work.

Thats what a good high school coach would do...I see good coaches at winning programs do that kind of stuff all the time... because they realize their job is to build well rounded young men, not just football players.

[1iluvfootball]

Time is a enemy, before you know it they are out of school. You must set priorities and goals. You get what you get when you go for it. By your freshman year a student athlete should have a dominant sport and other sports are just needed to improve the dominant sport. Football players need to be leaders in the weight room to help lift the whole team to the next level and must lift year round.